Official Game Thread- Barebones 4 Mafia (The Revival November 2018)

[Rayelek]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with you that most of you played for a long time. But that can also work the other way around though. Making any scum group quite more formidable, an example was last game. Seeing a great player lead us to victory was a sight to see. Judging from what I saw. The players here might be more inclined to take out the most talkative of players. But you can take my opinion with a grain of salt. Since I only have 1 and a half worth of game experience under my belt.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I would think taking out the most talkative of players would be hurtful to the town. In the last game, weren't they trying to get more talking going on? I mean, maybe if the talking isn't going anywhere, but discussion theoretically yields information eventually.</p>

[Leion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would think taking out the most talkative of players would be hurtful to the town. In the last game, weren't they trying to get more talking going on? I mean, maybe if the talking isn't going anywhere, but discussion theoretically yields information eventually.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was the strategy though, to take out the most talkative of players. I don't know how well that will play out in a game of 26 but I guess I am just cautious.</p>

[Astil]

I value power town roles less than most, which I think is why I lean the way I do. I feel the game is played more during the day phase than the night phase.

[Emark]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I value power town roles less than most, which I think is why I lean the way I do. I feel the game is played more during the day phase than the night phase.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So true on your game play view. Scum can really gain the upper hand by getting lucky early on in snuffing out power roles during night phases when it's super quiet.</p>

[theoutlaw321]

<p><strong>machinesxe</strong>-<strong>5</strong>(Astil, Destiny, Derek B, BlueStar, Arrows)</p><p>

<strong>Crychon</strong>-<strong>1</strong>(eayragt)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>It is now DAY PHASE. With 26 players remaining, it's 14 to lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

You have until 6:00PM EST (11:00PM GMT) on Friday, November 16th to reach a majority vote. If no vote has been reached at that time, a No Lynch will be declared.</strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<19 hours.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Where is my apprentice Now?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well he is a mod on here now. Other than that I have no clue. I have not talked to him in years.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hear this. I'm not a big fan of cults either. Can be a real pain in the butt having a trusted townie suddenly be corrupted and I much prefer to be town as much as possible. Unless of course it's a game where there as masons. Then I want to be one of them. Having all the benefits of town but yet being able to converse and plan in the way typically only the scum can. Those scenarios are a blast.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was in a corrupted Mason group and it made me paranoid as all hell. So yeah I am not a fan of Cults or Mason groups as a player.</p><p> </p><p> The thing about Cults is you know they approach you and they are all like, "Hey man we have hot hippy chicks and a dude who plays a mean guitar as our leader."</p><p> </p><p> Next thing you know, you are hanging out with people named Tex and Squeaky. You're going around killing people and kicking Dennis Wilson out of his house. Or maybe you just end up having to forcibly see Tom Cruise movies and buy books from a long dead hack science fiction writer.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My problem with the Machine vote and D1 votes in general now that I am older and wiser, is that if it is a strong claim he is spared but if he cant prove it but lives, you are back at square one day two... did he survive because Scum using him as bait or is he scum himself? Did the people who pushed for his lynch D1 waste our time on purpose or get played by folks who see the board differently.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is the exact reason why I am not a fan of D1 lynches. Unless I have actionable information, I am not keen on lynching for the sake of lynching.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Eayragt</strong> I thought you were fond of D1 lynches (at least I think it was you, it has been a few years and all). Odd to not see you trying to push for anything.</p>

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would think taking out the most talkative of players would be hurtful to the town. In the last game, weren't they trying to get more talking going on? I mean, maybe if the talking isn't going anywhere, but discussion theoretically yields information eventually.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree that discussion is to the benefit of the town in general. I'm pleased that discussion continued last night. We still haven't heard from machinesxe.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey BHK...you changed a lot! </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Forgot to give a shot out to my mentor Blue!</p><p> </p><p> Me...change...nah. </p><p> </p><p> I mean granted I have yet to ask Destiny why he and his friends killed DJ and I haven't pointed out that Jaded has not posted much and therefore must be scum. But there is still a lot of game to play.<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BHK1978]

<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><p>Warning meta game post alert! If meta game posts trigger you, kindly head to your nearest safe space.</p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

Looking at the player's list, only mdylan511 has yet to post. So it is good that the majority of the players have at least posted once thus far.</p>

[Destiny]

I'm right in thinking it's his first game right? He might have forgotten that he signed up. Out to see the new Fantastic Beasts movie so won't be around for a few hours.

[BHK1978]

I just wanted to say this really quick. It is snowing where I am at and I may lose power (tends to happen during every damn snow storm). I just wanted that out there in the off chance it happens.

[eayragt]

<p>[quote=BHK1978;231</p><p>

<strong>Eayragt</strong> I thought you were fond of D1 lynches (at least I think it was you, it has been a few years and all). Odd to not see you trying to push for anything.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm a fan of doing something Day One, and the best way to stoke conversation is normally to vote. When someone's not talking like machine you can either wait or pile on the votes. As there's plenty of conversation outside the push and time left, there's no need to push an actual lynch at this stage. The decision people need to think about now is if machine doesn't come on in the next 12 hours, would you add your vote? I think mine would go on.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm a fan of doing something Day One, and the best way to stoke conversation is normally to vote. When someone's not talking like machine you can either wait or pile on the votes. As there's plenty of conversation outside the push and time left, there's no need to push an actual lynch at this stage. The decision people need to think about now is if machine doesn't come on in the next 12 hours, would you add your vote? I think mine would go on.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tough call because (I am not trying to defend him) mach is know for this sort of play. As I said I am not a fan of Day One lynching because it means you are going on feelings, nothing more than feelings...sorry about that Johnny Mathis took over there. </p><p> </p><p> I have often made a joke post or a post that was complete throwaway post and people have gotten suspicious of me because of it. I have a hard time offing someone on day one just because we could potentially lose a valuable role or if he were to tell us his role we could end up outing a role that could help us.</p><p> </p><p> I can totally see the other side of the argument as well and I do not think it is wrong to play that way. However, I am not sure I want to play that aggressive right out of the gate when the vote is pretty much taking place on a whim.</p>

[Jaded]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Forgot to give a shot out to my mentor Blue!<p> </p><p> Me...change...nah. </p><p> </p><p> I mean granted I have yet to ask Destiny why he and his friends killed DJ and I haven't pointed out that Jaded has not posted much and therefore must be scum. But there is still a lot of game to play.<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Given you’re normally the first to express concern about me, this did kinda surprise me. </p><p> </p><p> While I’m here, <strong>vote:machinesxe</strong></p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Given you’re normally the first to express concern about me, this did kinda surprise me. <p> </p><p> While I’m here, <strong>vote:machinesxe</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I just think you are a smart player who is often overlooked (I cannot remember the game but there was one were you lead town to a good victory). Show yeah I tend to shine the light on you for that.</p>

[Eternal Phoenix]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That is the exact reason why I am not a fan of D1 lynches. Unless I have actionable information, I am not keen on lynching for the sake of lynching.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're hitting the nail on the head. I've seen Day 1 lynches go spectacularly bad. Like nailing the Detective/Investigator bad.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm a fan of doing something Day One, and the best way to stoke conversation is normally to vote. When someone's not talking like machine you can either wait or pile on the votes. As there's plenty of conversation outside the push and time left, there's no need to push an actual lynch at this stage. The decision people need to think about now is if machine doesn't come on in the next 12 hours, would you add your vote? I think mine would go on.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, yeah. Votes are typically the best way of getting someone's attention. And there's plenty of time to undo things if he shows. But,</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>However, I am not sure I want to play that aggressive right out of the gate when the vote is pretty much taking place on a whim.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty much this. Bandwagoning is an easy, easy trap to fall into. Silence doesn't mean guilt, and I've never been entirely on board with "get rid of the useless and/or inactive" anyway. Obvious statement is obvious, but lynching townies only helps the mafia win. And the serial killer, if there is one of those.</p>

[Destiny]

Just returned. Don't know if anybody's seen the movie yet but I don't think it was as enjoyable as the first despite some nice references for Potter fans. We still have a few hours of day time left to discuss things. As I said I'll be busy working at the weekend.

[The Archer]

i am for a first day lynch but only if it is obvious. more often you expose pr. hopefully ill be around later if my vote is needed.

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>i am for a first day lynch but only if it is obvious. more often you expose pr. hopefully ill be around later if my vote is needed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A first day lynch is never going to be obvious unless a scum somehow exposes himself. That is very unlikely to happen.</p>

[theoutlaw321]

<p><strong>machinesxe</strong>-<strong>6</strong>(Astil, Destiny, Derek B, BlueStar, Arrows, Jaded)</p><p>

<strong>Crychon</strong>-<strong>1</strong>(eayragt)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>It is now DAY PHASE. With 26 players remaining, it's 14 to lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

You have until 6:00PM EST (11:00PM GMT) on Friday, November 16th to reach a majority vote. If no vote has been reached at that time, a No Lynch will be declared.</strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<11hours</p>

[Destiny]

We still have some time left to discuss things this day. Please Try Something Dudes.

[Derek B]

It'll be fun to see which players that chose to do nothing today will be out for blood tomorrow. I don't see much changing in this phase, but the future will certainly be interesting. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Destiny]

I very much doubt that all of the inactive-ish players are town, but I doubt they're all scum either.

[Astil]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It'll be fun to see which players that chose to do nothing today will be out for blood tomorrow. I don't see much changing in this phase, but the future will certainly be interesting. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I think that's a lot of my thought process as well, especially if we miss with investigations and the like.</p>

[Destiny]

Do you guys mean that they'll start pointing fingers at the more talkative posters from today?