Official Game Thread- Barebones 4 Mafia (The Revival November 2018)

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think you were actually one of the people I had to kill to win my mission, but I don't remember whether I killed you myself or got you lynched.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ha it's possible. Getting me lynched shouldn't have been too difficult. I can see looking back I strung myself up sometimes.</p>

[Eternal Phoenix]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A one person faction? Do you mean like an "independent" or am I misunderstanding you? We had Indies here.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, you've more or less got it. Maybe I shouldn't post past 2AM. Sleep is important to the vocabulary. Also I've got work, so I'll disappear again in about 2 hours.</p>

[Imarevenant]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That said I dunno all that seems a bit much for a barebones game.<p> </p><p> Also Emark Barebones isn't a dark game, so you will have write ups, they can have a theme/narrative just they shouldnt be too fancy</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think probably dealing with a 5 man scum group and an SK. Maybe an Indy survivor thrown in there for good measure. The 1:3 ratio is a good guideline but it's not textbook.</p><p> </p><p> 5:1:1 feels right for non-town roles in a game this size.</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think probably dealing with a 5 man scum group and an SK. Maybe an Indy survivor thrown in there for good measure. The 1:3 ratio is a good guideline but it's not textbook.<p> </p><p> 5:1:1 feels right for non-town roles in a game this size.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If we look at something along these lines, expect a standard mafia.</p><p> </p><p> Don</p><p> Hitman</p><p> Roleblock</p><p> Framer</p><p> Protect?</p><p> </p><p> Something along those lines. If their abilities expand much beyond that, 5 people able to work together gets insanely strong.</p>

[Destiny]

I'd say the two of you have probably got it about right. More than six seems too much. Whilst you're both here, any thoughts on anyone so far? machinesxe?

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd say the two of you have probably got it about right. More than six seems too much. Whilst you're both here, any thoughts on anyone so far? machinesxe?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Normally, "I'd drop a vote, but we should hold off." is something I write down as scummy. I did make a note of it when it happened and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will keep an eye on how that progresses.</p>

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Normally, "I'd drop a vote, but we should hold off." is something I write down as scummy. I did make a note of it when it happened and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will keep an eye on how that progresses.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You didn't post what you put in the quotation marks but you basically said the same thing. I understand, I haven't "dropped a vote" yet either but I'm also keeping notes.</p>

[BlueStar]

Nice to see you all again...this European will read up as soon as the kids are off to bed. Should take about 2 hours....

[BlueStar]

<p>AND, in fond memory of Moe Hunter ... a multi-quote thread to catch up.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For mafia Virgins, this is how Day One goes down:<p> </p><p> <strong>vote: Destiny </strong></p><p> </p><p> Had to be done for old times sake. Brb in a couple of days <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was a classic. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>wow this is early.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just because the old-timers here are old(er), that doesn't mean voting has slowed down. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I see you kids have already started this without me. I'm sorry to see another old timer dead.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LOL</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I won't be placing a vote right now. What does everyone think is the scum group in this game? Interested in thoughts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Considering this myself. I'm sure Outlaw will give everyone, even if there is a SK in the game, a decent chance. And no...I'm not claiming SK here. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My account is so little used I can't even see profile pictures. Or signatures, if you have those. Anyway, I'm here. Let's have some fun.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We're supposed to have fun here. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I did not create your picture, I have never used Photoshop in my life. I think it was Zeel or your apprentice Michigan Hero that made that for you.<p> </p><p> Speaking of avatars, I used to change mine on a monthly basis. However, I have now had this one for years. Mainly because there is nothing more badass than a gangsta kitten like Keanu.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey BHK...you changed a lot! </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Antithesis" data-cite="Antithesis" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>2 kills per night<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> (assuming) </span></strong>out of 26 peeps gives us 13 phases potentially... tbh could be 2 kills per night and an alternating kill (SK?) <p> </p><p> 9 scum would almost give us that magical 1/3 ratio 4+4+1</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a barebones game. I'm expecting this game has a mason group but also a (possible) Cult group. 26 players ... 2 potential kills per night seems fair, a VIG is probably in as well (3rd potential kill)...I doubt that scum would start with 9 from the go. My guess: 5/6 scum to start, potential Cult (1 or 2), 2-3 indies and the others true blue townies. Just my 0.02....</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's a barebones game. I'm expecting this game has a mason group but also a (possible) Cult group. 26 players ... 2 potential kills per night seems fair, a VIG is probably in as well (3rd potential kill)...I doubt that scum would start with 9 from the go. My guess: 5/6 scum to start, potential Cult (1 or 2), 2-3 indies and the others true blue townies. Just my 0.02....</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not gonna quote the whole MQM Driver, though it's nice to see one of those again. Been a while. If there is a cult, which I'm personally gonna go with there's not, expect far less mafia. A cult adds a whole new issue to the balance of the game, and an over sized mafia against a town who can't trust even proven townies, is a lost game for any color town aligned and most likely a win for the scum group instead of the cult as the cult generally won't have the fire power to deal with a large scum team.</p>

[Astil]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Normally, "I'd drop a vote, but we should hold off." is something I write down as scummy. I did make a note of it when it happened and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will keep an eye on how that progresses.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod</p><p> </p><p> Inactivity only helps scum in my opinion.</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod<p> </p><p> Inactivity only helps scum in my opinion.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's such a staple line to deliver when you're trying to stall and make nothing happen, as well. As much as Day One is a feeling out process where people say and do things just to gauge some form of reaction, why come in with something like that? Mach's been around, he knows we're not going to lynch anyone on D1 unless we get an "I'm Megatron" moment. Most people don't even vote on D1.</p><p> </p><p> We're still in the checking in phase, and Mach's on D4 protect scum buddy from lynch.</p><p> </p><p> <em>"If this were anyone but Mach I'd be voting for them."</em></p>

[Destiny]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Normally, "I'd drop a vote, but we should hold off." is something I write down as scummy. I did make a note of it when it happened and I'm sure I'm not the only one who will keep an eye on how that progresses.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod<p> </p><p> Inactivity only helps scum in my opinion.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At the risk of drawing more attention to myself this old-timer is going to go ahead and <strong>Vote: machinesxe</strong>.No harm done but would like some sort of contribution or response.</p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Astil" data-cite="Astil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod<p> </p><p> Inactivity only helps scum in my opinion.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At the risk of drawing more attention to myself this old-timer is going to go ahead and <strong>Vote: machinesxe</strong>.No harm done but would like some sort of contribution or response.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair enough...think about what is going to be asked if needed though. Risk (outing a town power role) vs reward (catching him on a lie in of the future phases of the game).</p>

[The Two]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ha it's possible. Getting me lynched shouldn't have been too difficult. I can see looking back I strung myself up sometimes.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I like this new, more mature Destiny. I went back to look and see what happened in SIN. You <em>were</em> one of the people that I needed to kill, but you got yourself Mod-Killed before we could lynch you for making an "I'll never play again if..." role bet. Amazingly, that was February 2009, almost a decade ago!</p><p> </p><p> So, do we actually want to get a wagon rolling on Mach to wake him up, or are we just playing?</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: JMan</strong></p>

[Rayelek]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like this new, more mature Destiny. I went back to look and see what happened in SIN. You <em>were</em> one of the people that I needed to kill, but you got yourself Mod-Killed before we could lynch you for making an "I'll never play again if..." role bet. Amazingly, that was February 2009, almost a decade ago!<p> </p><p> So, do we actually want to get a wagon rolling on Mach to wake him up, or are we just playing?</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: JMan</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Considering how old the threads down in the mafia section were, I'd imagine most players are more mature than they were 3-4 years ago or more (2009? Holy crap!) Probably hard to get solid reads on anyone from that long ago, not that I would have those reads.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Considering how old the threads down in the mafia section were, I'd imagine most players are more mature than they were 3-4 years ago or more (2009? Holy crap!) Probably hard to get solid reads on anyone from that long ago, not that I would have those reads.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The Two will vouch for the fact that I definitely am not more mature than I was back then. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Two will vouch for the fact that I definitely am not more mature than I was back then. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's crazy to think it's been over a decade with some of you guys. I'd like to think I'm not the same guy I was back then, for everyone's sake. That said, expect me to still lie about pretty much everything.<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's crazy to think it's been over a decade with some of you guys. I'd like to think I'm not the same guy I was back then, for everyone's sake. That said, expect me to still lie about pretty much everything.<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've been on these forums for more than 13 years now. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Are you lying about the fact that you will be lying? Not sure what to believe already. Especially after you called me scum just before I died last game. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've been on these forums for more than 13 years now. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Are you lying about the fact that you will be lying? Not sure what to believe already. Especially after you called me scum just before I died last game. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Was hoping it would make them hesitate to kill you, if they could get a day wasted with us arguing. In 3 days I'll have hit my 13 years on this site. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[moon_lit_tears]

Eww. Maturity. Get out of here with that mess.

[Jaded]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ha it's possible. Getting me lynched shouldn't have been too difficult. I can see looking back I strung myself up sometimes.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This post feels like a definite understatement; I’m liking the new Destiny too.</p>

[Astil]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's such a staple line to deliver when you're trying to stall and make nothing happen, as well. As much as Day One is a feeling out process where people say and do things just to gauge some form of reaction, why come in with something like that? Mach's been around, he knows we're not going to lynch anyone on D1 unless we get an "I'm Megatron" moment. Most people don't even vote on D1.<p> </p><p> We're still in the checking in phase, and Mach's on D4 protect scum buddy from lynch.</p><p> </p><p> <em>"If this were anyone but Mach I'd be voting for them."</em></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I had to read this a few times to get it </p><p> </p><p> I just want some contribution more than a check in. </p><p> </p><p> Two's vote is interesting. Random? Not like Mach's in real danger yet so it's not a clear diversion vote.</p>

[Paws7297]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ha. Just wait.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Masons are a blast.</p><p> </p><p> Then you realize there is a cult, and they very well could've recruited your mason partner. Cults need limitations, of some sort. A maximum number of players or recruit attempts. Only certain people able to be recruited, like traitors, but more than just one, I guess.</p><p> </p><p> Cults are a tricky thing, especially when the maker will do anything in their power to make said cult appear to be masons for the sake of his baby having a chance.<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Ugh that happened to me once. My Mason became a vampire. That sucked.</p>

[Astil]

Also I've become one of the "we should do <em>something</em> Day 1" crowd but I know here it would take a lot to make happen. Still seems silly to give mafia a free night to me.