Jaysin Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 My god Britt Baker is atrocious. Jericho and Tony are the only entertaining part of that mess. The last two Hardy promos were leagues better than the first couple. Brodie's promo this past week wasn't that bad, but talking really isn't his strong suit. Evil Uno is much better on the mic and he's not been used since the quarantine sadly. I want to like the Dark Order because of Brodie, but these Vince parodies are lame. Raven as the Exalted One would have been better. I never thought of him but Jericho mentioned him on commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I want to like the Dark Order because of Brodie, but these Vince parodies are lame. Yeah, not a big fan either but he did say on Jericho's podcast that he's had creative freedom with the whole thing so it's likely going to take a while to take shape creatively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 After the debut promos it's stopped being a Vince parody. Wearing a suit makes him a modern day cult leader not Vince. Someone figured out most of Brodie's lines are inspired or taken almost directly from various cult documentaries. He's done his homework. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 Jericho is so fun on commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppermint Rage Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 enjoyed most of the show, but that main event was just kinda dull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jameschaos" data-cite="jameschaos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>enjoyed most of the show, but that main event was just kinda dull</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I feel the same. It just never found any sort of groove.</p><p> </p><p> Hopefully AEW picks up some of the WWE talents that got cut this week. EC3, Drake Maverick, Sarah Logan, Deonna Purazza(spelling?), Hawkins, Ryder, Slater, Rusev, and Mike Chioda would all be good gets in one way or another.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 - Colt vs Archer was solid. - Loved the breakdown on Hager's submissions. - No lies detected from Dr. Britt. She's a true hero for wrestling again after that brutal attack. - The Bubbly Bunch! - Pineapple Pete vs Sammy was solid. - Sabian vs Chuck was good. - Law vs Spears was a fun squash. - Hager vs Mox © is probably going to get a lot of hate. I enjoyed the shoot style but it didn't live up to the hype. It should have been faster-paced and more violent. Mox's matches with Omega and Suzuki were better. The weakest empty arena show so far. I can't see AEW going on a signing spree right now but Rusev would be an insane pickup. For the women Deonna is a no-brainer. I hope Kenny's already made contact. Both could be main eventers in AEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 - Hager vs Mox © is probably going to get a lot of hate. I enjoyed the shoot style but it didn't live up to the hype. It should have been faster-paced and more violent. Mox's matches with Omega and Suzuki were better. The weakest empty arena show so far. I can't see AEW going on a signing spree right now but Rusev would be an insane pickup. For the women Deonna is a no-brainer. I hope Kenny's already made contact. Both could be main eventers in AEW. Well Omega and Suzuki are infinitely better workers than Hager ever was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 <p>This article with Britt Baker about she (with help from others) turned around her character is well worth the read.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887241-how-aew-star-dr-britt-baker-became-wrestlings-top-new-heel-by-being-herself" rel="external nofollow">https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887241-how-aew-star-dr-britt-baker-became-wrestlings-top-new-heel-by-being-herself</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 <p>I would be interested in seeing a seriously repackaged Ryder and what they can do with him.</p><p> </p><p> Not sure if AEW is the destination for Rusev, but Deonna would be perfect to bolster that division.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppermint Rage Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I would be interested in seeing a seriously repackaged Ryder and what they can do with him. not sure I agree that he needs a repackage, Ryder's character was never a problem, it was his booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jameschaos" data-cite="jameschaos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>not sure I agree that he needs a repackage, Ryder's character was never a problem, it was his booking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Perhaps, but it's all connected. I for one wouldn't book a gimmick like this very hard imo. Maybe it's indeed better to keep his gimmick so people could recognize him. In the case of Rusev, should they sign him, I'd definitely repackage him.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 <p>You don't need to be pushed to the moon to be a worthwhile addition to the card. People like Zack Ryder's gimmick (or at least they did, it's been a while) and that could be a popular midcard act if you don't beat him into the ground, humiliate him repeatedly, and then leave him off TV. </p><p> </p><p> I recently watched the Casino Battle Royale from one of the early shows and was amazed at how over Shawn Spears' Perfect 10 gimmick was. The fans were ready to love him... and then I guess he turned heel, repackaged himself, and ditched the '10' thing. He hasn't been near as over since.</p><p> </p><p> Sometimes fans respond to the worker. Sometimes they respond to the gimmick. Zack Ryder is a gimmick.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 <p>Ryder created his character for Z! True Long Island Story, he'd fit right into AEW from the perspective that he has experience writing and creating content with no direction.</p><p> </p><p> Rusev is made for the Inner Circle. He would fit right in because the man was always on point with his comedy but he has the presence and look to be a killer too. </p><p> </p><p> All in all though, I hope they are careful who they pick up. I hope it doesn't become like TNA who signed every ex-WWE guy they could in a hope that all of them were simply under-utilised.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jameschaos" data-cite="jameschaos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>enjoyed most of the show, but that main event was just kinda dull</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Very much agreed. Terrible execution of a match that was so heavily hyped and had such heavy hitting potential. And I wish I could decide what was the fatal flaw. Whether it was the pacing or the underutilization of the arena or whether the match was just doomed due to lack of crowd. </p><p> </p><p> Although I'm not necessarily inclined to believe that last point because MLW just did a barnburner of an empty arena match in the loser leave battle between Mance Warner and MJF. But Mance and Max fought over a wider swath of arena. They fought with greater energy and urgency. They just let it all hang out. </p><p> </p><p> Where Moxley and Hager didn't seem nearly as fussed as they should have been given the stakes. It felt more like Peter Avalon was brawling with Brandon Cutler just because. Had the match not been so heavily hyped, one could easily not have known a title was at stake. Heck if I'm Jericho, I think I might drop Hager and replace him with like a Jeff Cobb or Shane Taylor. Maybe swing a deal with Jake The Snake to bring him and Lance Archer into the Inner Circle. Someone who won't wilt like Hager did when the pressure's on.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppermint Rage Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 It probably doesn't help that I don't want that transphobic douche on my screen in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 20, 2020 Author Share Posted April 20, 2020 It probably doesn't help that I don't want that transphobic douche on my screen in the first place. Who are you even talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppermint Rage Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Who are you even talking about</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hager</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.outsports.com/2019/10/4/20897519/aew-wrestling-nyla-rose-jake-hager-lgbt-transgender" rel="external nofollow">https://www.outsports.com/2019/10/4/20897519/aew-wrestling-nyla-rose-jake-hager-lgbt-transgender</a></p><p> </p><p> He's not the worst out there, but it's still not a good look, an aknolagement and apology at least would be nice.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLLK Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Ryder created his character for Z! True Long Island Story, he'd fit right into AEW from the perspective that he has experience writing and creating content with no direction. Rusev is made for the Inner Circle. He would fit right in because the man was always on point with his comedy but he has the presence and look to be a killer too. All in all though, I hope they are careful who they pick up. I hope it doesn't become like TNA who signed every ex-WWE guy they could in a hope that all of them were simply under-utilised. man, putting Rusev in Hager’s place would be phenomenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Hager https://www.outsports.com/2019/10/4/20897519/aew-wrestling-nyla-rose-jake-hager-lgbt-transgender He's not the worst out there, but it's still not a good look, an aknolagement and apology at least would be nice. I'm sorry but that article is laughable and a shameful bit of reporting. Making assumptions of his nature because he "liked" a tweet that isn't even inherently "transphobic" and because he somewhat identified with his gimmick. The latter isn't even evidenced in the article. All he said was that Trump liked his gimmick. The person writing this obviously is not an expert on pro wrestling, condemning AEW for not putting the strap on Rose immediately and failing to differentiate between in-character statements and personal statements. I'm not a fan of Hager and am happy Nyla got signed to AEW, but please do not badmouth workers here quoting these takes that are clearly stem from a mindset with a different aim. The "out" in outsports isn't exactly from "outside". It that article contained any evidence of his transphobic nature I could potentially tolerate your insults, but you're venturing into the realm of toxicity dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Trask Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Tweet is 100% transphobic. 'simple biological explanation of male vs. female' is 'you can't change being a man/woman!' rhetoric used to attack trans people. There is no other reason to phrase what she said in that way. That said, Hager may or may realise that's what tweet was saying because a lot of that rhetoric is worded in a way to make it sound like it's protecting women when it's actually attacking trans people, but given the other stuff you can't blame people being wary of him. Smoke and fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Tweet is 100% transphobic. 'simple biological explanation of male vs. female' is 'you can't change being a man/woman!' rhetoric used to attack trans people. It's not, but let's not discuss this any further. I've seen people labeled a transphobe for telling a trans person that they are wrong on some random fact. So if that is the - apparently very broad - definition you adapt, then I guess it is transphobic. You people need to learn to take a quote for what it is, instead of assuming things based on the background of some people. This person from the tweet is obviously trying to keep a fire burning. Maybe she's somehow profiting from the insane dichotomy in the US between left and right. but given the other stuff you can't blame people being wary of him. Smoke and fire. Please explain how "being wary" translates to calling someone a "transphobic douche". Sorry I get into this, but this kind of negativity really ticks me off. There are a myriad of reasons for potentially liking a tweet. There's no universal definition of what, for instance, a fb like implies. Maybe you like the author, maybe you want them to notice you, maybe he likes the way it was worded,... And it's truly a sad world when people take it upon themselves to decide why a person would like a tweet. Maybe you're connecting a couple of dots on him, and you might end up being right, but in this society people are innocent until proven guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Trask Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Rebranded Revival: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I try not to judge people on their social media. I don't know these people. Cody liked a tweet this week that has people dragging him through the mud for being a Trump supporter, even after he claimed it was accidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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