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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also, regarding council things. If the council vote is tied then a random policy gets picked. If there are no people on it, that just means it's tied at 0-0 so something would be randomly enacted. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is still risky to leave it to that. If we can agree on someone to nominate, we can include that in our votes.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And I can't wait to find that if I'm lynched you'll realize you've been blindly hating me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am not hating you. I think you have been playing a somewhat scummy game. Also, there is a difference between being wrong and being blind. I have seen some odd behaviors from you. If I am wrong, I will apologize to you after the game. It isn't blind at all.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Honestly if you guys are town you both need to consider the possibility that you both could be town and that you are being set against one another by a very full scum team.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Memory of Talon" data-cite="Memory of Talon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Honestly if you guys are town you both need to consider the possibility that you both could be town and that you are being set against one another by a very full scum team.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's why I want town to look into Spartan if I am lynched. He is playing a game very close to when we were scum together. Lynch him and scum takes a huge hit.</p>
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I respect the efforts by you guys. Place yourself in one write up for me. Anywhere will do. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I respect the efforts by you guys. Place yourself in one write up for me. Anywhere will do. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll try to do what I do best.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll try to do what I do best.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Killing people?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Killing people?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No. Giving Food. NON poisoness food.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So like... a shishkebab to the eye?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> More like... Whipped Cream to the face.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Unless I am targeted on a night where my vote didn't count, I can't be in the writeup as my role is passive. If anyone targeted me tonight, I should be in the writeup.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hold on. Re-reading the N1 writeup, I might be the guy with the ruffled hair who answers the door. It fits the vote not counting and being immune to the effects of the person who targeted me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>More like... Whipped Cream to the face.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Makes you sound like a clown. Moves you right to the top of literally everyone's hitlist. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Woulb be safer to just use a creme brulee torch on someone. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Unless I am targeted on a night where my vote didn't count, I can't be in the writeup as my role is passive. If anyone targeted me tonight, I should be in the writeup.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So night 1 and night 4 you are saying that you can block a single incoming action, but not night 2 or 3? Just for the sake of clarity.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hold on. Re-reading the N1 writeup, I might be the guy with the ruffled hair who answers the door. It fits the vote not counting and being immune to the effects of the person who targeted me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nope. I know who that is. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Makes you sound like a clown. Moves you right to the top of literally everyone's hitlist. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Woulb be safer to just use a creme brulee torch on someone. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> So night 1 and night 4 you are saying that you can block a single incoming action, but not night 2 or 3? Just for the sake of clarity.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Correct.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nope. I know who that is. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> OK. It's the only thing that might fit my role.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>OK. It's the only thing that might fit my role.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you don't think you're one of the killers in the write up? That's unfortunate. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Completely unrelated question that I just can't answer in the day phase... if you had 2 kills, who would you use them on and why? <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you don't think you're one of the killers in the write up? That's unfortunate. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Completely unrelated question that I just can't answer in the day phase... if you had 2 kills, who would you use them on and why? <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Spartan and Leion. Spartan is playing too close a game to when we were scum for my liking and Leion not really showing up much is no help.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Spartan and Leion. Spartan is playing too close a game to when we were scum for my liking and Leion not really showing up much is no help.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just further arguing my case is that Libby was one of the people on the scum lists from the analysis. Keep that in mind.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So why not him then? If it's either yourself or FellaLibby as a killer due to you both being blocked and there being no sign of protectors around, surely you should know 100% that FellaLibby is scum and that would be your top pick? Seems weird you wouldn't pick him at all....</p><p> </p><p> <strong>@everyone active just now: Same question... if you had 2 kills right now who would you kill and why? </strong><img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So why not him then? If it's either yourself or FellaLibby as a killer due to you both being blocked and there being no sign of protectors around, surely you should know 100% that FellaLibby is scum and that would be your top pick? Seems weird you wouldn't pick him at all....<p> </p><p> <strong>@everyone active just now: Same question... if you had 2 kills right now who would you kill and why? </strong><img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wouldn't kill him because he is the easiest lynch option out of the three. Why waste a kill on someone who can be easily lynched?</p>
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<p>Well... I'd say he's the second easiest, but I see why you'd say he's easiest.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, where did everyone else go? I gotta go to bed soon and I want to know what people would do if they had 2 kills. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well... I'd say he's the second easiest, but I see why you'd say he's easiest.<p> </p><p> Also, where did everyone else go? I gotta go to bed soon and I want to know what people would do if they had 2 kills. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He is easier than me because no one has any results tying me to scum at all. On the vote analysis, he was part of the potential scum list. That is one tie that I don't have to the scum team.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So why not him then? If it's either yourself or FellaLibby as a killer due to you both being blocked and there being no sign of protectors around, surely you should know 100% that FellaLibby is scum and that would be your top pick? Seems weird you wouldn't pick him at all....<p> </p><p> <strong>@everyone active just now: Same question... if you had 2 kills right now who would you kill and why? </strong><img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lukess and MoT.</p><p> </p><p> I'm actually thinking that Fella Libby is potentially town at this point. Either that or the dude is an amazing talent for being scum.</p>
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<p>I definitely need to go to bed... it's been fun here. For the record, my opinions on who are scum haven't changed at all since I last posted them... </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Confirming the policy options that Destiny said. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> And we're definitely going for the lynch option. Destiny has it right, in that if we go for a day skip we're just going to brutalise the town with no opportunity for firing back. This also reflects what I said when I had the same option on night 1.... it was an okay option to use back then, but later in the game it was an absolute no no. As also said, there's a chance that there is a scum rush on the votes next phase but that is unavoidable. These options are horrible. Thanks IER. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> lukess11 is very obviously scum, it's just a matter of which side he is on at this point. One of FellaLibby or lukess11 are Vainglory Realty aligned for sure, being the killer that was blocked on N3. lukess11 may not be the killer, but he's also unaccounted for in any other way and his voting history is suuuuuper scummy looking. I hope TSS posts an updated version of that to highlight it a bit more as I don't quite have the time just now to do that and it would be very late in the phase before I could do it. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I'm still operating under the principle that 5 of the remaining players are scum (was 6 before we lynched) until proven otherwise. It would be weird for the two scum teams to have different numbers of players to start with, and there wouldn't be enough scum for a 25 player game if there were only 3 on each team to start with (less than 25%, with a chance to kill each other). The only way either team can defeat the other is for them to hit each other at some point with the time remaining in this game, but town are indeed in a rough spot unless some things start to go our way. Here is who I think is where at this point, though I appreciate that others may have other opinions on the matter. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#0000FF;">TOWN: Derek B, Destiny, Too Sweet Spartan, </span></p><p> <span style="color:#008000;">PROBABLY TOWN: Crychon, djthefunkchris, Eliphas/michgcs, Rabbitman, </span></p><p> SCARPA: Memory Of Talon, Leion, </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;">REALTY: lukess11 , FellaLibby, +1 (from the probably town group)</span></p><p> </p><p> And before anyone asks, I have reasons for putting people in the probably town. The top 3 are people I trust to be town more than anything in this game, they are who I would put on the council every day until the end of this game at this point. The group of probably town has to contain 1 scum for my numbers to add up, so some folks with less strong reasons to support have been thrown in there.</p><p> </p><p> More posts to come. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And for council i still believe we should stick to people I've listed in the TOWN group here where possible. Stick me in again if you have to, but I don't think we're getting a 3 person council in the next phase and I'd be happy with Destiny and TSS.</p><p> </p><p> I feel like I might have lukess11 and Leon the wrong way round in my groupings, but I also feel like I've seen those pairings interact enough in ways that feel like forced interactions for them to be grouped as I have them. Whoever is up first pick a team to focus on, and eliminate them as fast as possible. I'm down with that plan but I really didn't want to force things down a time sensitive path like this and was trying to at least remove the time pressure to give me time to be on more. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I have a feeling it will be night phase again when I come back on. What cruel games will IER be playing with us this time?! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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