Gungner Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I haven't noticed any increased challenge. I started a company using the "hard" option, and after a year I'm making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month and constantly growing in pop without any effort. I keep going back to my 2016 save. I can't get into a 2020 save while the supposedly improved AI booking does stuff like this: Wow, I thought I was spamming the audience with the same match when I did a four-match feud. AI has always been bad, but this has to take the crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donners Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Yeah, the AI booking has all sorts of issues. It's mostly noticeable with tag team units, but some singles workers get locked into the same pattern. Fingers crossed for a patch, but this is something which was being pointed out in the beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregano Jensen Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Eh, the perma-jobber thing was an issue for larger promotions in '16 too. I have noticed a slightly increased tendency in 2020 for AI promotions to break workers out of that cycle, though it might just be sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donners Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Eh, the perma-jobber thing was an issue for larger promotions in '16 too. I have noticed a slightly increased tendency in 2020 for AI promotions to break workers out of that cycle, though it might just be sample size. It's more than them being a perma-jobber - there's also things like Rocky Golden facing a perma-jobber four times in a few months, or Christian Price beating the same worker in ten televised matches in a year. It's definitely worse for tag team units, though - the AI spams the same match and result over and over. I guess I hoped for more with talk of the improved AI booking/roster management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanendp Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 <p>Having trialled the demo various times, I think ultimately I'm going to wait for whenever the next edition is to be brought out and just stick with 2016.</p><p> </p><p> Still have plenty of life in my save game, and having seen some of the things brought up in the 2020 forum, it just doesn't entice me to buy it, at least in this current state <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djprimetime Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I'm deciding to holdout a bit before getting 2020. Is anyone doing updated 2016 mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan James Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Ended up staying with 2016. I suddenly had the urge to play again. I gave the 2020 demo a couple of tries and it just wasn't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Can Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I bought TEW 2020 immediately. Ever since playing EWR many years ago I have purchased every version of the game the same day it was released. For me, 2020 is a game that limits the way that I love playing the game. The disadvantages far out way the advantages. I posted this in the TEW 2020 forum: "I am beginning to think that TEW 2020 is not for me and that's ok. It's my fault, not the game's. Let me start by saying, I have purchased and been playing these games since it's earliest incarnations many years ago (EWR, etc..) and purchased this version immediately. I am also OLD (in my mid 50's). I am not a "gamer". I love wrestling. My earliest memories are sitting in my grandmother's living room in the 70's and early 80's watching her yell at every heel that graced her small tv screen. I am starting to realize that I have no desire to "Win" at this game. I just want to relive or rewrite history. I have these same problems with the cverse, but generally I love to play real world mods, especially early 80's. I guess I do want to grow my company, but even more importantly, I want to book guys that I loved watching over the years against each other. I want to create neat angles to set up big blow off matches. I want to set up feuds with guys that I remember seeing feud before and even more importantly set up feuds that never took place. I play to take myself out of real life. I play to escape to a fantasy time of pretending that I can control a wrestling universe the way that I wanted it to unfold. I do not play to "win" at the game, but the more that I play this version the more I am reminded how I keep "losing". It is becoming very disheartening. I realize I am mostly playing Mods and not the cverse, but I played the same mods in past games and didn't have these problems. Again, the problem is not the "game", it's me. The game is being made to be more competitive against the AI and I have come to realize that I just don't really care about that. I just want to play at being a booker, owner, writer, etc in wrestling. Changes in the new game makes it very difficult to have real life gimmicks work (IE: Andre enters my company as awful at being a Giant, Ivan Koloff being rated poor as an Evil Foreigner, Steve Austin is awful as a Bad Ass). It just seems so random and takes me out of the game. Any game where Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair in the 80's gets a 63 match rating at a PPV is just not the game for me since I obviously do not know how to book well enough to get a higher rating. Using the same mod for the same match resulted in more realistic ratings in previous versions of TEW. I shouldn't care about the rating, but it just takes me out of the game. When a Roddy Piper interview segment continues to bomb because I cannot figure out whether Randy Savage is better rated on "entertainer, microphone, star quality or overness" just makes me continue to think, "There is no way a Piper/ Savage interview should bomb in this game when it never bombed in any of the past versions of the game using the same mod. The in game editor removing A LOT of editing possibilities in order to add more "difficulty" to the game is not the "in game editor" that I want. Again, It's not the game, it's me. I am old and not competitively trying to outsmart the game. I just want to fantasy book wrestling. Every step of this game seems to be saying to me, "We changed it to make it harder for you, so you can't beat the system." I don't want to "beat" anything. I just want to enjoy this game the way that I enjoyed every version in the past. I am so excited about new game additions (more brands, playing as child companies, moving title belts and so many more), but I cannot enjoying those options when I feel like I am constantly being reminded at every turn in the game that I am not smart enough to play this game. I admit, it's me not the game so no need to flame this into a debate. I am just telling how I feel playing this version. I know there is a learning curve, but my playing time is limited and I am old. Obviously, the game has past me by. I have never been a competitive gamer who had to beat the next level. I am just a wrestling fan who has a hard time finding joy in a game that seems to have been made to make sure I am as competitive as possible. I don't want to compete against the AI. I don't care how much money other companies make. I just want to enjoy playing my game. I guess that's the real problem. It doesn't feel like this game wasn't made for me. I totally understand that, I just hate admitting to myself that I am being left behind. Oh well, my fault." I have gone back to 2016. I may return to 2020, but honestly, I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krug Stillo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I am just telling how I feel playing this version. I know there is a learning curve, but my playing time is limited and I am old. Obviously, the game has past me by. I have never been a competitive gamer who had to beat the next level. I am just a wrestling fan who has a hard time finding joy in a game that seems to have been made to make sure I am as competitive as possible. I don't want to compete against the AI. I don't care how much money other companies make. I just want to enjoy playing my game. I guess that's the real problem. It doesn't feel like this game wasn't made for me. I totally understand that, I just hate admitting to myself that I am being left behind. Oh well, my fault." I have gone back to 2016. I may return to 2020, but honestly, I doubt it. Don't pay attention to what everyone else thinks. If you prefer TEW2016, then just go for it. TEW2016 will give you access to plenty of detailed and balanced mods that you will enjoy and there are still new mods being created for TEW2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Can Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Don't pay attention to what everyone else thinks. If you prefer TEW2016, then just go for it. TEW2016 will give you access to plenty of detailed and balanced mods that you will enjoy and there are still new mods being created for TEW2016. I totally agree. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeheep Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I was super fired up for 2020.....but each time I play the demo, I'm less fired up than before.....absence of scrolling, new "push" system, missing feds......I have played a lot of 2020, and did a lot of reading the manual, but I still feel I have no idea what I'm doing, or what direction I'm supposed to be going.....I certainly don't remember 2016 learning curve anywhere near this long.......I'm starting up a new 2016 save tonight, if I enjoy that after spending a lot of time in the 2020 demo, I will stick to 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krug Stillo Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Well TEW2016 is a great game; it got plenty of great mods/scenarios avaible at <a href="https://homeofprowrestling.com/" rel="external nofollow">Home of Pro Wrestling</a> and it have upcoming mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnal881 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I tried with TEW 2020 for 3 months . And I gave up. I am hoing back to TEW 2016. More playable and friendly interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krug Stillo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="johnal881" data-cite="johnal881" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47477" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried with TEW 2020 for 3 months . And I gave up. I am hoing back to TEW 2016. More playable and friendly interface.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Then you can look forward to play the <a href="https://bethebooker.net/thread/8/tew2016-download-index" rel="external nofollow">upcoming TEW2016 mods</a>.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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