SWF: The Evolution of Supreme

Eisen-verse · August 5, 2020

Thank you so much for those who have predicted thus far! I especially enjoy those of you who have left behind your card and/or overall thoughts. It's been a lot of fun to read!

Also seeing how you posted your prediction card made me kick myself for not noticing I can embed through docdroid. I always wanted to build my shows on google slides, but then I couldn't find a good way of posting those directly onto the forums, so I gave up and use an external link to docdroid. Pretty ironic/annoying that this whole time I could have embedded the whole show via docdroid! Out of interest how come you've only been using the embedding feature for the card preview and not the actual shows? I know personally I like tracking the clicks each individual episode gets so I suppose that's one benefit you would lose, perhaps it also would look worse on a phone or tablet I'm not sure.

Yea, I like the analytics that come with creating a DocDroid link. If I was going simply off of responses to shows, I would think that no one was reading this project. That said, the amount of clicks (and the amount of downloads) have shown me otherwise. It's a nice feature of have.

As you said also, it wouldn't look as good on your phone and/or tablet. Knowing this, it's just easier to create a link for shows (and share directly on the board when it comes to cards).

Eisen-verse · August 6, 2020

Episode #12 of SupremeTV is ready!

The return of Jack Bruce as the host for "The World is Watching" has created a sense of buzz around SWF programming. That said, as you will find on this show, not everyone is excited to see the rebellious rocker back in the company. In addition, Eric Eisen has vowed to bring Scythe to SupremeTV this week. What will happen when the masked monster returns to SupremeTV for the first time in months?

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LaEstrella · August 7, 2020

Mikey will be fine, this is all just setting him up for a HUGE victory.

Loving the Awesomeness babyface turn as well, and man can they bring some good grades.

XMultiGames · August 7, 2020

Some thoughts on tonight show:

I must admit I am one of the people who voted for undeniable to get a title shot, mostly because the face tag team scene is underdeveloped in comparison to the heel side at the beggining of the game so not fault to you there, but for me that was the advantage of keeping the titles in Hawaiian Crush, because they could have had more of a variety of opponents from the heel side, but some things we only realize in retrospective, Im sure that at the moment the title change seemed like a better idea than what it ended up being, but im talking about that later, firstly I want to walk inside my thought process, at first I wasnt excited with any of the options, because heel vs heel wasnt ideal, but the face options seemed to weak at the time, so I wanted to use the option to write another team, my first idea was to write Joey Morgan and Someone else or maybe writing in Z-Dub and Randy Unleashed forcing them into a dysfunctional team, but I decided against it mostly as I felt I would be wasting my vote, because it would need by pure chance that a plurality of the people had the same idea as i which was unlikely, so I decided to go with the estrablished options, and I dont remember exactly what teams were in the poll, but I remember choosing Undeniable because I felt they deserved it with the grades they are pulling, and it was a nice occasion to book a non common heel vs heel in a believable way, as with any other PPV they had no booking reason to fight, meanwhile this type of events which are unpredictable usually follow no booking logic, what I did not expect when making that decision is that, we were forcing the awesomeness to turn face, in retrospective knowing what I now know, I wouldnt have voted that way.

Now speaking fully on the turn, is not the worst thing that could have happened, luckily the awesomeness are very adaptable wrestlers with any disposition, but constrasting this show with the previous shows, it seems this turn wasn't planned and that unknowingly we forced your hand into turning them, most proof is with the quick turn problem, if this was really the plan it would have been booked with more time, and also because there is a dissonance between the awesomeness from RISE from the awesomeness from tonight, literally a few nights ago they were refusing to wrestlers, now we have to believe they are babyfaces, in a funny way it kind of works in the universe lore that the turn wasnt well received, because in character i feel some fans may have even not realized they turned, and those who did realize were very confused, making it a awkward turn, I really was curious who was gonna be the defacto face in that match, as I believe either team could be, as the awesomeness are goofy and adaptable, but undeniable had the fan support and had the star power, but I really never expected either team turning, so it was a good swerve I must admit, I think that for me the most awkward moment was that Emma Chase was so pumped when they won the titles, and defended their goofyness, now 2 weeks later she is ripping into them, and just because she is doing that we must now see them as baby faces.

Talking about Emma Chase, I dont know how I must feel about Eric and Emma, in character, like if I was watching SWF on TV, because in my head cannon in "real life" they are actually nice people or at least not douchebags, I blame my head cannon on one PSW diary where Eric buys PSW asnd seems like a really down to earth guy, and my head cannon of Emma thanks to your writing in Sins of the Father, when you actually made me feel sorry for her, do to Viberts antagonizing of her, but in character like figures of authority, while its pretty easy for me to hate Eric Eisen, he has a very punchable face and he can act like a douche masterfully, in a way you want to punch him yourself, but I cant bring myself to boo Emma, she is evil but not hateable (like Miranda Presley in il diavolo veste prada, ugh that reference makes me feel old), you see a woman that hasnt relied on her looks or a man to get where she is, she has gotten there out of witts alone, and in a strange way kind of makes me root for her, so when they are together on screen I dont know how to feel, if I had to describe how I feel, I would say I feel sorry for her, when she has to share authority with him.

Brandon James story took a turn I hadnt seen coming, I knew that if Krissy left him they were going to be on opposite sides, so I had believed it was kind of a Face turn for Brandon, meanwhile Krissy got new heel clients, but this puts it all upside down, but not in a bad way, the only thing it leaves me with the doubt, the plan was to feel sorry for Krissy? because at least for me it didnt work, I dont see her working as a face so I assume they are both still heels, just that they went different routes, really curious what is next for her, but Im more excited for Brandon James, this could really be a positive turning point for his career, everybody knows that his best times in SWF was under Emma Chase while he was teaming with Rogue, James and Chase have shined as a combination always, I sincerely believe that if he was a few years younger he would be the one holding the title right now with this same storyline instead of Remo, and he actually makes a lot more sense as someone who would seek to ally with the authority to get easier wins, made more sense than Rogue or Remo, but age isnt just a number in wrestling, a few years to late and your pride is gone, but even being the second heel wrestler of the group can be good for his career maybe one last run as north american champion or tag champion, this role as security gives him a purpose, and keeps him on the spotlight.

Talking about Remo I completely agree with you he benefits a lot from having a mouthpiece, he is exactly like Brock Lesnar cutting promos, he is not bad at it, is a believable heel, but hearing them speak feels weird, so why not give them someone who can transform there good promos into Excellent Promos, let him do his talking with his wrestling and let his advocates do the rest for him, but this only makes me want Emma Chase out of the announce table even more, not because she is bad at it, but is so good as a manager and as an on screen authority figure, that she being behind the announce table outside the spotlight is a waste of her talent, heel colour commentators there are pretty good out there some hireable ones, but the type of synergy she gets with Remo, Brandon and even Eric is magnificent, surpasses anything she can do on that table, also gives her a chance to focus on one story and show more evolution and more wrinkles as a character, in place of being the heel commentator to counteract Ana Garcia, she deserves better, she deserves the spotlight she has earned out of sheer talent, and if you want someone good to play the heel commentator I would recommend "The Natural" Damian Carvill, he is not as popular but he isnt on screen much what matters is his ability, or if you wanted to keep it inside the company, you could make it a role reversal, Emma Chase as the sole authority figure/manager, and Eric Eisen as colour commentator, but I feel like Im overstepping with that kind of suggestion.

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smw88 · August 7, 2020

Unfortunately Norton now flags the host site for the show as malicious, I have had some issues in the past with it where when reading the show if I click accidently on the pdf it causes a pop up malware, so I had taken to downloading them but this latest Norton change prevents even that unfortunately. Just wanted to make you aware as may impact other readers too.

Eisen-verse · August 7, 2020

Unfortunately Norton now flags the host site for the show as malicious, I have had some issues in the past with it where when reading the show if I click accidently on the pdf it causes a pop up malware, so I had taken to downloading them but this latest Norton change prevents even that unfortunately. Just wanted to make you aware as may impact other readers too.

Boo!

I don't know if there is another platform like DocDroid. I may have to investigate that.

Mikey will be fine, this is all just setting him up for a HUGE victory.

Loving the Awesomeness babyface turn as well, and man can they bring some good grades.

They really DO have an ability to pull some great grades. In my mind, I see them (both) as a symbol of the SWF's evolution (as it pertains to in-ring action).

Some thoughts on tonight show:

I must admit I am one of the people who voted for undeniable to get a title shot, mostly because the face tag team scene is underdeveloped in comparison to the heel side at the beggining of the game so not fault to you there, but for me that was the advantage of keeping the titles in Hawaiian Crush, because they could have had more of a variety of opponents from the heel side, but some things we only realize in retrospective, Im sure that at the moment the title change seemed like a better idea than what it ended up being, but im talking about that later, firstly I want to walk inside my thought process, at first I wasnt excited with any of the options, because heel vs heel wasnt ideal, but the face options seemed to weak at the time, so I wanted to use the option to write another team, my first idea was to write Joey Morgan and Someone else or maybe writing in Z-Dub and Randy Unleashed forcing them into a dysfunctional team, but I decided against it mostly as I felt I would be wasting my vote, because it would need by pure chance that a plurality of the people had the same idea as i which was unlikely, so I decided to go with the estrablished options, and I dont remember exactly what teams were in the poll, but I remember choosing Undeniable because I felt they deserved it with the grades they are pulling, and it was a nice occasion to book a non common heel vs heel in a believable way, as with any other PPV they had no booking reason to fight, meanwhile this type of events which are unpredictable usually follow no booking logic, what I did not expect when making that decision is that, we were forcing the awesomeness to turn face, in retrospective knowing what I now know, I wouldnt have voted that way.

Hawaiian Crush was an experiment for me. I wanted to see how they could do as the champs and, truthfully, I really was not a fan of Fame & Money. When getting constant messages about people seeing 'something' in High Flyin' Hawaiian, I thought this would be the best way to get him some spotlight time. In reality, they never produced the way I was hoping. At this point as well, I see Ekuma is more of the star than HFH. That can change in time but, for the most part, I was unimpressed.

Now speaking fully on the turn, is not the worst thing that could have happened, luckily the awesomeness are very adaptable wrestlers with any disposition, but constrasting this show with the previous shows, it seems this turn wasn't planned and that unknowingly we forced your hand into turning them, most proof is with the quick turn problem, if this was really the plan it would have been booked with more time, and also because there is a dissonance between the awesomeness from RISE from the awesomeness from tonight, literally a few nights ago they were refusing to wrestlers, now we have to believe they are babyfaces, in a funny way it kind of works in the universe lore that the turn wasnt well received, because in character i feel some fans may have even not realized they turned, and those who did realize were very confused, making it a awkward turn, I really was curious who was gonna be the defacto face in that match, as I believe either team could be, as the awesomeness are goofy and adaptable, but undeniable had the fan support and had the star power, but I really never expected either team turning, so it was a good swerve I must admit, I think that for me the most awkward moment was that Emma Chase was so pumped when they won the titles, and defended their goofyness, now 2 weeks later she is ripping into them, and just because she is doing that we must now see them as baby faces.

A few days back they DID claim that they were not 'fighting champions.' That is a truly heel action. That said, I am a firm believer that turns often come because something has forced them to change their thinking/perspective. That's where Undeniable's attack comes into play.

I don't see Awesomeness as kissing babies and shaking hands. They're not Valiant. They're far more raw, rebellious, and comical than that. That said, they now find themselves on the 'other side of the isle' due to Undeniable putting them there.

As you said, I didn't want a heel vs. heel match. Knowing this, I also did not want to turn Hernandez and Spade as that would be the end of Undeniable as I see them. Knowing that, Huey and Jefferson had to take the leap.

Moments later, after their weak turn, Jefferson pulled an 88 match rating with Spencer Spade; so, it must not have been THAT bad of a turn. haha

Talking about Emma Chase, I dont know how I must feel about Eric and Emma, in character, like if I was watching SWF on TV, because in my head cannon in "real life" they are actually nice people or at least not douchebags, I blame my head cannon on one PSW diary where Eric buys PSW asnd seems like a really down to earth guy, and my head cannon of Emma thanks to your writing in Sins of the Father, when you actually made me feel sorry for her, do to Viberts antagonizing of her, but in character like figures of authority, while its pretty easy for me to hate Eric Eisen, he has a very punchable face and he can act like a douche masterfully, in a way you want to punch him yourself, but I cant bring myself to boo Emma, she is evil but not hateable (like Miranda Presley in il diavolo veste prada, ugh that reference makes me feel old), you see a woman that hasnt relied on her looks or a man to get where she is, she has gotten there out of witts alone, and in a strange way kind of makes me root for her, so when they are together on screen I dont know how to feel, if I had to describe how I feel, I would say I feel sorry for her, when she has to share authority with him.

I love Emma Chase and, as you painted her, we should all celebrate her ability/success. That said, a babyface Emma is not something I'm overly excited about in this given moment. There's a chance down the line but, as of right now, it doesn't make sense in my mind.

True, she is more of the likable figure than Eric. As you said, Eric has a "punch-able face" and I look at him like a Cornellverse Miz. I think, in a way, we are supposed to hate him more BECAUSE he has the beauty Emma at his side.

Meanwhile, as we saw this week, Emma is a little more thoughtful than Eric (not comfortable with Scythe's arrival -- or what she THOUGHT was his arrival). This lends her to being more babyface in nature but, in my mind, she still plays a slender power heel; not taking 'ish from anyone and, in turn, unwilling to bend to anyone's line of thinking.

Brandon James story took a turn I hadnt seen coming, I knew that if Krissy left him they were going to be on opposite sides, so I had believed it was kind of a Face turn for Brandon, meanwhile Krissy got new heel clients, but this puts it all upside down, but not in a bad way, the only thing it leaves me with the doubt, the plan was to feel sorry for Krissy? because at least for me it didnt work, I dont see her working as a face so I assume they are both still heels, just that they went different routes, really curious what is next for her, but Im more excited for Brandon James, this could really be a positive turning point for his career, everybody knows that his best times in SWF was under Emma Chase while he was teaming with Rogue, James and Chase have shined as a combination always, I sincerely believe that if he was a few years younger he would be the one holding the title right now with this same storyline instead of Remo, and he actually makes a lot more sense as someone who would seek to ally with the authority to get easier wins, made more sense than Rogue or Remo, but age isnt just a number in wrestling, a few years to late and your pride is gone, but even being the second heel wrestler of the group can be good for his career maybe one last run as north american champion or tag champion, this role as security gives him a purpose, and keeps him on the spotlight.

I love Brandon in this role, as well. I've booked his pairing with Krissy for years now and, to this point, I was growing somewhat bored of that persona.

You are right in wondering who to feel bad for between he and Krissy. I don't think there really IS someone to feel bad for. I feel like, in this moment, they were to heels who just didn't get along and stormed off; causing Krissy to disappear for now and Brandon to re-find some of that aggression he lost by being a boyfriend.

This is NOT the last we've seen from Krissy. In a way, I want to turn her toward a persona much like how TNA/Impact used Scarlett Bordeaux. Eventually, this will lead to some tension between Brandon and Krissy. Ultimately though, you can have said tension without an all out babyface vs. heel war.

Talking about Remo I completely agree with you he benefits a lot from having a mouthpiece, he is exactly like Brock Lesnar cutting promos, he is not bad at it, is a believable heel, but hearing them speak feels weird, so why not give them someone who can transform there good promos into Excellent Promos, let him do his talking with his wrestling and let his advocates do the rest for him, but this only makes me want Emma Chase out of the announce table even more, not because she is bad at it, but is so good as a manager and as an on screen authority figure, that she being behind the announce table outside the spotlight is a waste of her talent, heel colour commentators there are pretty good out there some hireable ones, but the type of synergy she gets with Remo, Brandon and even Eric is magnificent, surpasses anything she can do on that table, also gives her a chance to focus on one story and show more evolution and more wrinkles as a character, in place of being the heel commentator to counteract Ana Garcia, she deserves better, she deserves the spotlight she has earned out of sheer talent, and if you want someone good to play the heel commentator I would recommend "The Natural" Damian Carvill, he is not as popular but he isnt on screen much what matters is his ability, or if you wanted to keep it inside the company, you could make it a role reversal, Emma Chase as the sole authority figure/manager, and Eric Eisen as colour commentator, but I feel like Im overstepping with that kind of suggestion.

Great suggestions.

I've struggled with the notion of pulling Emma out from behind the desk. I love the idea of doing so. That said, she's so dang talented that it's hard to pull her. In this vein, she's wearing several hats in the SWF right now: commentator, manager, and authority figure.

In a way, looking at that last sentence, she's really the backbone of the SWF as a whole.

NOTHING OF WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN, HAS BEEN MEANT TO INSULT OR TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BAD, AND IF IT HAS CAUSED THAT, I APOLOGIZE, I FELT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, TO EXPRESS IN AN OUT OF CHARACTER WAY, EXPLAIN HOW I HAVE BEEN FEELING AS A READER, BUT IF ITS ANNOYING OR FEElS RUDE IN ANYWAY I WONT DO IT ANY MORE. Thanks for your attention .

I 100% enjoyed your thoughts. I don't expect everything to be 'rainbows and sunshine' when it comes to entertainment. You're choosing to spend your time reading this project and, in turn, you have the ability to voice your thinking. Not only am I open to that but I love it, as well. I enjoy seeing what others think.

All in all, no need to apologize. Your thoughts were wonderful to read through & react to!

Eisen-verse · August 7, 2020

UPDATE

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Thank you!

SIser187 · August 7, 2020

It should probably take some time before The Awesomeness are treated as babyfaces. They probably SHOULD be shunned by certain people they've wronged in the past though they could also be endorsed by a figure too to help the process. I think I can guess who that figure could be though. If they put in in ring performances like that it makes the turn a little easier to get the audience to start to accept.

Brandon James being connected back to Emma and Eric isn't a surprise(more so Emma) considering the past history there. Hopefully he can deliver with Rocky when that time comes.

Also I just in canon think Remo is just spoiling for a better kind of fight and there are only a couple of people he feels like brings the best kind of fight out of him. In a way that sounds SUPREMELY arrogant but that's part of the point. And even with two different foes he doesn't feel like he'd get it and Emma, in her own way, verbalized it. I wonder if Emma will have it dawn on her that Remo might be more important to certain plans than Eric even. That'd be interesting to see play out.

This show was the Spencer Spade show. I know Starr had his chance earlier with the show kind'a based around him. The promo delivered but the match not so much. Spade did. Wonder if Mainstream is next. Awesomeness vs Spade/Mainstream feels like it'd be a very modern and aerial based war in a way. Seems very different compared to the more brawl heavy tag teams...

Also Dillon and Ranger just need to continue to punch people in the damn face! RDJ will sternly approve of that.

Eisen-verse · August 7, 2020

It should probably take some time before The Awesomeness are treated as babyfaces. They probably SHOULD be shunned by certain people they've wronged in the past though they could also be endorsed by a figure too to help the process. I think I can guess who that figure could be though. If they put in in ring performances like that it makes the turn a little easier to get the audience to start to accept.

That's exactly the route I was going. They're babyfaces in name; however, no one is really looking to align themselves (or really play nice) with them thus far.

There was most likely a 'stank' on the team after the turn felt forced and too quick. That said, as touched upon before, I feel the match between Jefferson and Spade took some of that 'stank' off. It softened it up a bit. The fans aren't SUPER behind them just yet; however, with good booking, I feel I can get them to a spot where they are seen as legit 'good guys'; especially when paired with the hated duo of Spade and Hernandez.

Brandon James being connected back to Emma and Eric isn't a surprise(more so Emma) considering the past history there. Hopefully he can deliver with Rocky when that time comes.

I'm hoping he can produce with Rock. I mean, under a 'mayhem' booking approach, he was able to pull a 70 with Chris Caulfield. That says A LOT if you ask me.

Also I just in canon think Remo is just spoiling for a better kind of fight and there are only a couple of people he feels like brings the best kind of fight out of him. In a way that sounds SUPREMELY arrogant but that's part of the point. And even with two different foes he doesn't feel like he'd get it and Emma, in her own way, verbalized it. I wonder if Emma will have it dawn on her that Remo might be more important to certain plans than Eric even. That'd be interesting to see play out.

That's my approach with Remo this time around. He's powerful, he's a freak athletically, AND he's developed his legacy quite a bit -- meaning he's a true STAR in the eyes of the fans. That said, the heel component comes in where he doesn't want to conform to what the fans WANT from him. They WANT him to be this bad-a$$ champion who takes nothing from nobody. That's not who he is. He's aligning himself with the Power Couple in which to make his life easier. Fight when he needs to fight... BUT... taking an easier road. This gimmick will be fleshed out further (with the help of Emma) as we go.

This show was the Spencer Spade show. I know Starr had his chance earlier with the show kind'a based around him. The promo delivered but the match not so much. Spade did. Wonder if Mainstream is next. Awesomeness vs Spade/Mainstream feels like it'd be a very modern and aerial based war in a way. Seems very different compared to the more brawl heavy tag teams...

I really DO feel like this was Spencer Spade's "I've arrived" moment. He's sitting in the low 70s for popularity but, with the grades he's pulling, there's no telling where he COULD go. Then again, that's why I love Undeniable -- all three are worthy of a big push.

I'm excited to tell the story of Awesomeness vs. Undeniable (Spade & Hernandez) for "The World is Watching." There's A LOT that can be done there.

Also Dillon and Ranger just need to continue to punch people in the damn face! RDJ will sternly approve of that.

The Boys are one of my favorite creations right now. When matched with RDJ, a Dutch Mantel figure in my mind, these guys have instant credibility. They go from being a generic Texan tag team (With a terrible name) to a beer-drinkin', back home brawlin' team with a passable name. That's progress!

smw88 · August 7, 2020

UPDATE
If DocDroid is starting to become an issue, I have found another website called Calameo. It's a little different than Droid but could provide a reading space that doesn't get tagged as malware. If you want to try it out for me, then click here:

READ SUPREMETV #12 ON CALAMEO!

If you give it a shot, let me know what you think as it pertains to the layout of the website. Likes? Dislikes?

Thank you!

Thank you, works perfectly and think I prefer the functionality as a reader too.

Eisen-verse · August 7, 2020

This is our 4th ranking, so far! As you can see, we there continues to be a log-jam near the top.

As stated before, you need to predict on 75% of the matches in which to be viable for the 'top 3' by the end of all of this.

christmas_ape is at the top with 100%; however, there is an asterisk currently

due to the smaller amount of predictions thus far.

Eisen-verse · August 7, 2020

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IgnitedFlame · August 9, 2020

I apologise for not commenting more E-V! though I continually keep on top of the predictions and reading, I haven’t been commenting enough (though I’m loving my perch on top of the prediction contest )

Really can’t say enough good things about how you’re handling Rocky Golden. I find it really hard to book interesting face characters, but your versions of ZWB and Bruce, in particular, are really great from your typical cookie-cutter babyfaces in your standardised WWE product these days. The Scythe/Golden product seems like it’s own TV show in itself and it’s slowly being intertwined within Supreme TV and I’m all for it!

The acquisition of RDJ is huge, gives another element to Dillon and Ranger. I love these guys but find them really difficult to book (not the full rounded product for a major push) and hopefully with RDJ by their side - they can gain some pop and skills from him. Gives them a genuine character too from a dynasty reading perspective that I can get behind.

Awesomeness face turn.. Untimely for me tbh. I understand your push against a heel vs heel match, but I can’t believe in the turn. Saying that, they are the sort of goofy, non-serious team that can be a fun team to work with as faces. So I look forward to your take. You mentioned they won’t be your stereotypical faces but I can see them winning crowds after a while ala New Day.

I really want to see more from Randy Unleashed too. He seems a bit of a side piece at the moment to Major storyline’s, I hope you have something in store for him.. he seems primed for a major push at the start of the SWF save and is one of my favourites so I may be a little biased.

I may sound a little negative here too, but I just can’t picture Matty Faith as a heel. I respect you’re giving him a character overhaul and happy to buy into it, but man who’s going to boo a Faith! Come on man!

Overall, keep it up man. Always a pleasure to come and read your work. The visuals are so easy to read and unique too, it’s been a really great read so far mate!

Eisen-verse · August 9, 2020

I apologise for not commenting more E-V! though I continually keep on top of the predictions and reading, I haven’t been commenting enough (though I’m loving my perch on top of the prediction contest )

It's been wonderful to see your username show up on the thread here (in any and all capacities).

Really can’t say enough good things about how you’re handling Rocky Golden. I find it really hard to book interesting face characters, but your versions of ZWB and Bruce, in particular, are really great from your typical cookie-cutter babyfaces in your standardised WWE product these days. The Scythe/Golden product seems like it’s own TV show in itself and it’s slowly being intertwined within Supreme TV and I’m all for it!

Personally, I despise standardized products in wrestling. It feels tight and clean; however, devoid of any sense of life (both the positives and negatives that come with this). Knowing this, I want to provide as much nuance & entertainment value to my characters/shows.

It's why I tend to watch AEW more than the WWE. It's not that they're professionally put together better. Instead, AEW feels like it has heart and spirit too it. The WWE feels like I'm watching Disney.

Awesomeness face turn.. Untimely for me tbh. I understand your push against a heel vs heel match, but I can’t believe in the turn. Saying that, they are the sort of goofy, non-serious team that can be a fun team to work with as faces. So I look forward to your take. You mentioned they won’t be your stereotypical faces but I can see them winning crowds after a while ala New Day.

The New Day is a good connection. I see them much like Edge & Christian. They can go solo, and have the skills to do so. That said, they're so entertaining together that they make for a good funny moment or two in a show.

I really want to see more from Randy Unleashed too. He seems a bit of a side piece at the moment to Major storyline’s, I hope you have something in store for him.. he seems primed for a major push at the start of the SWF save and is one of my favourites so I may be a little biased.

Randy has the skills to be something special. That said, he's floundering more than his brother is. Truthfully, that's somewhat by design. I don't want to have both brothers making a major impact at the same time. It feels too cluttered. Instead, by giving Z his 'moment', I can later come back and give Randy the same. Just, for now, he's kind of a B-character in most shows & storylines.

I may sound a little negative here too, but I just can’t picture Matty Faith as a heel. I respect you’re giving him a character overhaul and happy to buy into it, but man who’s going to boo a Faith! Come on man!

I see the fans disliking Matthew at this point due to his arrogant "silver spoon" demeanor and the fact that he's being 'lofted up' by someone like Runaway Train. To me, it would be if David Flair came out with the same persona. He's not AS talented as his father (or anywhere near, really) but that 2nd generation kid feels entitled to success due to what their DAD did.

Eisen-verse · August 9, 2020

RockySmith · August 10, 2020

I definitely like the Calameo format better than the DocDroid. I feel like with the DocDroid, especially reading on a phone, every other time I touched the screen to scroll it would create a pop up that opened a new window.

A couple of random questions out of curiosity:

Did the Primus Allen injury kind of screw someone out of getting to be a 4th member of the KO Crew (for evenness)?

Were you hoping/expecting a face team (i.e. The Boys) got voted to face the Awesomeness or is it more fun to have to turn them face? If they just start urinating on heels' stuff now they should be fine.

Speaking of The Awesomeness, is BJ O'Neill still with them, and if so did she turn too? I can't remember if she's been addressed recently.

LaEstrella · August 10, 2020

What's it going to take to get myself booked on Lucha Suprema?

Eisen-verse · August 10, 2020

I definitely like the Calameo format better than the DocDroid. I feel like with the DocDroid, especially reading on a phone, every other time I touched the screen to scroll it would create a pop up that opened a new window.

Awesome. Thank you for letting me know! I'll stick with Calameo going forward!

Did the Primus Allen injury kind of screw someone out of getting to be a 4th member of the KO Crew (for evenness)?

Possibly. At the time, when Primus was a part of Undeniable, the KO Crew didn't exist in my thinking. That came a little later, as these six were constantly interacting with one another. Would the Crew have needed a 4th member, if Primus was still around? Most certainly. Who would that person be? I have my ideas.

Were you hoping/expecting a face team (i.e. The Boys) got voted to face the Awesomeness or is it more fun to have to turn them face? If they just start urinating on heels' stuff now they should be fine.

You know, I left it as an open possibility in my mind. I knew, by putting Spade/Hernandez in there, there was a good chance that a heel could win the poll. Knowing this, I had to make contingency plans if that were to happen (i.e. who would I turn and why). With Undeniable winning, it allows me to bring some freshness to Awesomeness (now an evolving babyface team) and Undeniable (cutting a promo to cement their disdain for the SWF NATION).

Speaking of The Awesomeness, is BJ O'Neill still with them, and if so did she turn too? I can't remember if she's been addressed recently.

Good question, as I never really addressed this. BJ is not managing anyone and is currently collecting a check for doing nothing.

What's it going to take to get myself booked on Lucha Suprema?

I thought you'd be a fan!

Eisen-verse · August 10, 2020

"The World is Watching" is a really fun PPV to book. Instead of me coming up with the card, you (the reader) are given the opportunity to shape the event that YOU are most interested in. Last week, you named the stipulation of the World Heavyweight Championship match AND the North American Championship match. On top of that, you designated Undeniable (Spade & Hernandez) as the #1 contenders to the SWF World Tag Team Championships.

This week, there are only 2 questions; however, both have big implications for "The World is Watching!"

What will you dictate this week?

I will keep the 3rd round of voting open until Wednesday (8/12) - 8 PM CST.

Voting 3rd Round!

LaEstrella · August 10, 2020

Z-Dub's getting his contract back and Rocky's going to make Brandon James quit in the middle of the ring on live television.

RocheBag · August 10, 2020

Where did you get the renders for Remo and Mikey Lau? I've searched all over and can't find either of them.

Also, just binged this in 2 days, absolutely enthralling man great work!

Eisen-verse · August 10, 2020

Z-Dub's getting his contract back and Rocky's going to make Brandon James quit in the middle of the ring on live television.

Love it!

Where did you get the renders for Remo and Mikey Lau? I've searched all over and can't find either of them.

Also, just binged this in 2 days, absolutely enthralling man great work!

That's awesome!

I don't have the traditional blue CVerse background versions. That said, here is Remo & Mikey Lau.

christmas_ape · August 10, 2020

christmas_ape is at the top with 100%; however, there is an asterisk currently
due to the smaller amount of predictions thus far.

Asterisk or no I'll enjoy the top spot! Definitely interested to see how LuchaSuprema is presented and the initial roster.

What's it going to take to get myself booked on Lucha Suprema?

Screw a spot on that roster, you should want a BJ deal!

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