JMaestro Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 30 in TEW translates to awful, even the worst is the business can attempt some and be awful at it. In TEW stats convert to this (based on TEW 2016 text descriptions) 30 - Awful 45 - Not Awful 55 - Decent 70 - Good 80 - Great 90 - Excellent Hulk Hogan and Percy Pringle in a high spot match would be awful, they both have 30 in Ariel and Flashiness. How would having 30 in any stat get you a good match? If they get a good match it will be because of the product and Hogan's popularity, not because of the stats. Stick Hogan vs Percy Pringle in a high spots match in a promotions where they care about in-ring performance and not about popularity and it will tank. Anyway I'm a fan of the rounded stats, all my mods mods use this system as fair warning. If you disagree with any of the skills in terms of the text discriptions please do post and I'll check them out. Regarding the Internet darlings, they are usually Internet darlings for a reason and that's because they are good How long do the rounded stats actually last for anyway? 1 year game time everyone would be different anyway. Hardly seems worthwhile for you to even consider changing it if anyone asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 How long do the rounded stats actually last for anyway? 1 year game time everyone would be different anyway. Hardly seems worthwhile for you to even consider changing it if anyone asked. Exactly, plus I couldn't justify giving somebody in the mod a 62 and another a 65, I mean how can I watch somebody on TV and think to myself 'he' s a 62 rated brawler'. Its easier for me to think 'he's good or he's decent'. It also me to justify the ratings I give people and for me to take suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgoldman1029 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Flair starts at WWF so I didn't Sure, but if Flair's your avatar, you gotta take over WCW. To have Flair take over WWF in 93 would be...my next go round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Sure, but if Flair's your avatar, you gotta take over WCW. To have Flair take over WWF in 93 would be...my next go round. That's fair to Flair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Yeah, if you're playing 80s or 90s WCW and don't have Flair, are you really playing WCW? Stupid Jim Herd and really idiotic Eric Bischoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuotan Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Hey I am testing your mod and i will post my impressions. First some annual awards are empty. "The Seiner Brothers" missing T Kerry von Erich is marked as deceased, but he died February 18, 1993. Matt Borne was a drug user. Superstar Billy Graham is missing Pat Patterson attribute: Agent of Rumbles Hulk Hogan attribute: That doesnt work for me brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hailthebulldog Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Having a ton of fun with this. I honestly can't wait to dive deeper into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Belmont Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Been fooling around with this as the WWF heading into the Rumble. Seems pretty accurate to the time with guys like Bret and Shawn doing well, but not quite on Hogan/Savage level yet, as they're still the much bigger stars. Awesome mod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeronullet Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 ECW Contracts? Hey Gaz, thanks for all of the work on this. I'm playing as ECW and the contracts seem a little weird. The wrestlers seem right but the out of ring guys seem VERY OVERPAID. I doubt Styles was making 14K a month and guys like Stevie WOnderful 4K a month. Also, Heyman is getting almost 50K a month which may have happened but basically makes it impossible not to bankrupt the company in one year. Anyways, could you research and adjust this or something? Thanks I think Snuka was the biggest star in ECW at this time so i think he should probably be making the most money or at least equal to Eddie Gilbert and Heyman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve83 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 So this there a way to convert the pic pack to a non .rar file? For some reason I'm unable to use the pic pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolized Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 A few notes: - On the title screen Bret Hart's name is written as "BREAT HART" - WCW: Barry Windham was a heel at this time. Jody Hamilton should be managing Paul Orndorff. Jim Cornette should be managing Stan Lane and Tom Pritchard. The Heavenly Bodies aren't set as an active team. Rock 'n Roll Express aren't set as an active team. Johnny B. Badd's image is not set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspymorten Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Something I just noticed. The "UWFHerb" logo I've got in my picture pack, uses the Bill Watts logo. Maybe I've got an old pack or something, but felt like I should still pop in and say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolized Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 A few other things in WCW: - I think Jody Hamilton should be a heel as he is set to face - Clash of the Champions should probably be Wednesday, Wk 2, January - Some of the guys on the roster are under Exclusive Written contracts, but are set to be paid per show in the editor instead of monthly. This prevents them from being able to be used for house shows. Some of the key workers include: Big Van Vader, 2 Cold Scorpio, Bobby Eaton, Brian Pillman, Johnny B. Badd, Z-Man and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I am playing as WCW and just entered June of 93. I just noticed that the WWF logo changed to a WCW logo. I didn't check for a narrative, but am pretty sure I didnt change it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I would say that New Jack and Mustafa should be an inactive unit team with 0 experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Small note, but Sting has 16 years of experience in 1993. I think that may be off Great mod. Having a blast with my WCW save. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiceDawg Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 A few notes: - On the title screen Bret Hart's name is written as "BREAT HART" - WCW: Barry Windham was a heel at this time. Jody Hamilton should be managing Paul Orndorff. Jim Cornette should be managing Stan Lane and Tom Pritchard. The Heavenly Bodies aren't set as an active team. Rock 'n Roll Express aren't set as an active team. Johnny B. Badd's image is not set. The Assassin (Jody Hamilton) doesn't start managing Paul Orndorff until October 1993. I don't think Assassin shows up on WCW TV until right around the build to Slamboree in May. As for Orndorff, he debuts/returns to WCW in January, so he wouldn't even be established yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolized Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The Assassin (Jody Hamilton) doesn't start managing Paul Orndorff until October 1993. I don't think Assassin shows up on WCW TV until right around the build to Slamboree in May. As for Orndorff, he debuts/returns to WCW in January, so he wouldn't even be established yet. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I am a little over a year in the game as WCW and just bought BCW. They never held any shows. Maybe a problem with their schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 I am a little over a year in the game as WCW and just bought BCW. They never held any shows. Maybe a problem with their schedule? I'll check it out, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Been having a little play around as wwf and I feel the overness for the time period is quite off kilter Virgil 60 over Bushwhackers 60 over Nasty boys 60 over Beverly brothers 55 over On their own those look out of kilter but when you take into account bsm bam Bigelow is 50 over and lex luger and steiners is 60 over these look quite off base. Particularly for me more than any others the bushwhackers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 Been having a little play around as wwf and I feel the overness for the time period is quite off kilter Virgil 60 over Bushwhackers 60 over Nasty boys 60 over Beverly brothers 55 over On their own those look out of kilter but when you take into account bsm bam Bigelow is 50 over and lex luger and steiners is 60 over these look quite off base. Particularly for me more than any others the bushwhackers It's tricky to get a the correct mix of perception and popularity seeing how they are mixed. On one hand 60 seems high but on the other hand it only relates to them being well known in the WWF and at midcard level, 55 for the Beverley Brothers only makes them recognisable. This is how they come out in game, if they have the below pop across america and work for the WWF 10 Unimportant 20 Unimportant 30 Unimportant 40 Recognisable 50 Recognisable 60 Well Known 70 Well Known 80 Star 90 Major Star 100 Major Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I get where you are coming from but for example starting a game it means bam is recognisable perception wise yet bushwhackers etc are well known..at that time bam bam was one of the top heels as can be seen with his performance further in the year in the kotr... maybe in that case the likes of luger bam bam etc need 5 or 10pts added to them to give them the right perception At the moment in a fed based on pop you would likely get a higher rating for butch against luke than for tiatanka against bambam for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 I get where you are coming from but for example starting a game it means bam is recognisable perception wise yet bushwhackers etc are well known..at that time bam bam was one of the top heels as can be seen with his performance further in the year in the kotr... maybe in that case the likes of luger bam bam etc need 5 or 10pts added to them to give them the right perception At the moment in a fed based on pop you would likely get a higher rating for hogan butch against luke than for tatanka against bambam for example I think WWF where pushing Bam Bam, Luger, Steiners etc but they weren't as popular/well known as the guys that had been with WWF for years such as the Bushwhackers etc. I think its pretty well balanced in that the Bushwhackers, Nasties and Virgil for example are just as popular but aren't getting the push. Its then up to the player which direction they take, push the new talent or continue with the current more establish guys. A few wins for Bam Bam, Luger, Tatanka etc. over the established Nasties, Virgil, Bushwhackers etc. starts to define the direction you are going. Its definitely a case of less known, better pushed vs more established, poorly pushed. Maybe I should go in an alter the starting moment for them all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I think momentum should be altered as its a massive thing as virgil on a quick look was losing to the like of demento on the house show loop.. he was only appearing on TV to job like to luger on the b shows etc I personally don't ever think of a time virgil sound be 60 over.. obviously ill change the values to suit for me own mod but it feels like a lot of people should be further dien the popularity scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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