Is it possible?

[Dartell]

With the new way feds are being presented, is it possible to make a "porn" like wrestling product while still having WWE like wrestling? Here is my idea for TEW 2007: There will be 3 championships for my federation. 1. The Main Event 2. The Tag Titles 3. The Bucked Naked Title The lower midcarders and openers are female based. The Bucked Naked Title is defended weekly by a female in some sort of pornographic match. The details are a lil risque. The over and up and coming females turn to manangers for the male superstars. The second division is made up of tag team midcarders. There matches consist of hardcore, balls to the wall action. Tag team titles are defended every other week. The over and up and coming superstars either help other tag teams get over or run for the main event. The third division is upper mid and main eventors. The matches are 1v1 based relying on awesome, clean cut matches. Maybe a gimmick match here and there, but the title is defended every "Big Show". I'm thinking the dirty nature of the product brings in the fans, while the legit nature of the main event keeps them. Is it possible to create such a federation? What do you think of the idea?

[TravisL]

I think that's a terrible idea, and this is in the wrong forum.

[JWideman]

You're not going to get both. Women able to put on quality matches won't be involved in such a product, while women willing to be involved can't put on good matches.

[Zero]

yeah i odnt think thats a good idea and it wouldnt sell in real life

[AlaskanHero]

There is something that's [i]sort of[/i] like this idea in real life. Women's Extreme Wrestling or something like that. Most of the women are (or were) ex-strippers and the matches tend to suck, but every now and then you'll see a talented wrestler on the card.

[wooodaddy]

just use Women's T&A in TEW it's as close as you will get... but I agree with the rest... If i want to see wrestling I watch wrestling... if I want to see porn.. I watch porn.... the 2 combined is a bad idea....

[YBDynamo]

[QUOTE=The Franchise;141431]There is something that's [i]sort of[/i] like this idea in real life. Women's Extreme Wrestling or something like that. Most of the women are (or were) ex-strippers and the matches tend to suck, but every now and then you'll see a talented wrestler on the card.[/QUOTE] Carmen Electra's NWWL is all nude wrestling, but they don't have actual wrestling talent (correct me if i'm wrong about the talent part though) Can it actually be considered a wrestling fed though?

[Undertaker666]

[QUOTE=YBDynamo;141440]Carmen Electra's NWWL is all nude wrestling, but they don't have actual wrestling talent (correct me if i'm wrong about the talent part though) Can it actually be considered a wrestling fed though?[/QUOTE] I was going to mention NWWL, I haven't seen much of it but there are two problems that i've noticed: 1. The women aren't hot in the slightest, they look more like a bunch of bulldogs chewing wasps whilst falling out of the ugly tree and hitting every branch on the way down. And then having the tree fall on them. 2. They can't wrestle. Those two points pretty much sum up what i've seen. :D

[Dartell]

Urgh, I have a bad time relying my message on forums. The females are just a backdrop. The wrestling doesn't matter [B]for the females[/B], its the exposure. They probably would take up at the most 20% of the actual card unless there in the main event or upper midcard. Maybe porn was a bit of an exaggeration... Maybe not... All eye candy matches for the ladies. I do realize this is immoral in some ways but its just a game right? Isn't this forum for TEW 2007 discussion?

[Dartell]

The males are in the tag team hardcore division and in the main event division. I don't mind suggestions!

[vampmon]

LOL i so hope this isnt possible. IF it is it will take a lot away from your show.

[TravisL]

LOL... It's not about the idea being immoral, even though it is, it's just down right terrible! The only significant audience you'd attract is complete perverts who wouldn't be there to see the wrestling. However, in the game, no it's not possible unless you use your imagination.

[Dartell]

I guess I'll rework the womens division. Maybe just make it a bunch of angles. Get this, an authority figure (female) starts the show off with a onset talk show. She invites various guests who have family and marriage debacles. Hilarity ensures as each guest attacks one another for cheating, random bed hopping, etc. The shows then ends with insight from the authority figure. I SMELL RATINGS! I'm still going to see how my idea works in TEW 2007. Has anybody been brainstorming about their ideal promotion in TEW 2007?

[Jacko00]

NWWL wrestlers are pretty good, pity Carmen dont wrestle in it :)

[D-Lyrium]

So you want 'proper' wrestling in the upper card, and talentless whores playfighting in their underwear on the lower card? This is different from the WWE, how? :p

[The Stallion]

I think this will be possible in the new TEW, simply because you are going to be able to design your own promotion style.

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=Undertaker666;141445]I was going to mention NWWL, I haven't seen much of it but there are two problems that i've noticed: 1. The women aren't hot in the slightest, they look more like a bunch of bulldogs chewing wasps whilst falling out of the ugly tree and hitting every branch on the way down. And then having the tree fall on them. 2. They can't wrestle. Those two points pretty much sum up what i've seen. :D[/QUOTE] Actually, you'd be wrong about #2. NWWL has had workers who CAN work. I'm not a fan of hers but April Hunter did at least one show for them, if I remember right. Franchise is kinda correct. WEW generally gets their talent straight off the pole (or off the set in the case of Rebecca Wylde). BUT, a young lady named Alexis Laree (who is now known as Mickie James) did a stretch with them and she wasn't bad at all. And their roster is probably far more capable than WWE's roster (Amber O'Neal, Angel Orsini, Jazz, Christie Ricci, Rain, Lacey, Francine (Authority Figure role, I think), Mercedes Martinez, ODB, Sumie Sakai, April Hunter, Tracy Brooks, "Simply Luscious" Ronnie Stevens, etc). Actually, there's no 'probably' about it heh. And the 'E actually signed Shantelle Taylor off WEW's roster (as well as bringing Francine and Trinity back to ECW). I don't think your promotion idea will work though. If it's anything even vaguely resembling reality, WEW doesn't attract the same type of fans as say SHIMMER does. The folks who attend most of APW's ChickFight tournaments generally aren't folks who think WWE's women's product is palatable. So you'd be trying to appeal to widely disparate audiences and demographic groups. The way you describe it, it sounds like you'd be pulling 'Entertainment', 'Modern', 'Traditional', 'Hardcore' (and maybe 'Garbage' too), AND 'Pure' fans (in 05 terms). Can ANYONE see all those different types of fans enjoying the exact same show from beginning to end? Besides, how do you rate matches then? Does only a portion of the audience get a say in every other segment? Pure fans would poop all over the women's and hardcore matches and Entertainment and Hardcore fans would be shouting, "BOOOOOOOOORING" during your main events. And your angle to match ratio would be afu. :p

[societyr]

I think you guys are forgetting about Porno Pro Wrestling which just happens to feature the Honky Tonk Man and the Iron Shiek

[Dartell]

[QUOTE=D-Lyrium;141486]So you want 'proper' wrestling in the upper card, and talentless whores playfighting in their underwear on the lower card? This is different from the WWE, how? :p[/QUOTE] Woah Woah!, I'm not just going to hire anybody! They have to at the very least look good. In my book thats a talent. Its different because the ladies are not going to be in their underwear. Oh snap, Title stipulation! Only the champion can have her clothes on. Every other competitor in the womens division must bare all! Maybe even add a 24 hour rule! [QUOTE=Remianen;141602] I don't think your promotion idea will work though. If it's anything even vaguely resembling reality, WEW doesn't attract the same type of fans as say SHIMMER does. The folks who attend most of APW's ChickFight tournaments generally aren't folks who think WWE's women's product is palatable. So you'd be trying to appeal to widely disparate audiences and demographic groups. The way you describe it, it sounds like you'd be pulling 'Entertainment', 'Modern', 'Traditional', 'Hardcore' (and maybe 'Garbage' too), AND 'Pure' fans (in 05 terms). Can ANYONE see all those different types of fans enjoying the exact same show from beginning to end? Besides, how do you rate matches then? Does only a portion of the audience get a say in every other segment? Pure fans would poop all over the women's and hardcore matches and Entertainment and Hardcore fans would be shouting, "BOOOOOOOOORING" during your main events. And your angle to match ratio would be afu. :p[/QUOTE] I agree with the point of attracting the wrong kind of fans. Maybe I should make the main event like the tag team division. Just not as dangerous but still hard-hitting action. What is the smallest promotion size you guys think I can pull this off with? I may try to write a diary for TEW 2007.

[Jacko00]

Well you can have a mixture of things, like you could have sports entertainment and cutting edge which may work.

[Undertaker666]

Remianen: You may well be right but like I said i've seen very little of NWWL, maybe 1 or 2 shows at most and what I saw was extremely poor, and I don't mean extreme in the good ECW way ;). But what I did see can only be likened to watching women who looked more banged up than Luna Vachon and had the wrestling skills of Maria Kanellis on sleeping pills. I can't comment on WEW though because I've never seen it.

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=Undertaker666;141664]Remianen: You may well be right but like I said i've seen very little of NWWL, maybe 1 or 2 shows at most and what I saw was extremely poor, and I don't mean extreme in the good ECW way ;). But what I did see can only be likened to watching women who looked more banged up than Luna Vachon and had the wrestling skills of Maria Kanellis on sleeping pills. I can't comment on WEW though because I've never seen it.[/QUOTE] I'm not disagreeing with you on NWWL. They were awful. But they did bring in legit women's workers on a few occasions to roll around with their regulars. At least one of those workers is a real looker IMO (April Hunter is DAAAAAAMN! And Annie Social can eat crackers in bed all she wants, as far as I'm concerned). Melissa Coates (another "legit" worker who has made appearances for them) looks like a dude sometimes so she might be an acquired taste. WEW though is fairly good (not SHIMMER quality, but decent) but you have to catch them when they actually have a 'name' appearing. Their regulars are really green, skill wise.

[Dartell]

With this new fan feature, I believe I'm going to have to change the way things run. The main event is going to feature a mix of everything. Thats right! 1v1 hardcore porno action. If thats not hardcore enough... I don't know what is...

[bobinc]

The NWWL and WEW have or are getting some talent in their rosters. April Hunter for one is joining the NWWL for their next run I believe. WEW has had the likes of Alexis Laree(Mickie James) come through their promotion. Not all of WEW's match are "cleavege matches" they do have some talented wrestlers. The other problem they face though is that they have way too much gimmick involved in their non-female and some female talent.

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=bobinc;142918]The NWWL and WEW have or are getting some talent in their rosters. April Hunter for one is joining the NWWL for their next run I believe. WEW has had the likes of Alexis Laree(Mickie James) come through their promotion. Not all of WEW's match are "cleavege matches" they do have some talented wrestlers. The other problem they face though is that they have way too much gimmick involved in their non-female and some female talent.[/QUOTE] Major problem for WEW is that they don't have near enough time to actually make gimmicks matter. There's no character development at all. A few years ago when following them, I had to piece together wtf the story was supposed to be (Valentina was Alexis Laree's little sister, sibling rivalry kitsch, etc) from bits and pieces of their awful announcers' dialogue. One thing I will say though: The Smoke = best parody character EVER. :)