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Candyman, i hope you realise that you are part of the IWC. You're a wrestling fan posting on an internet forum about wrestling. The IWC aren't one big monolithic group with Scott Keith or Dave Meltzer or whoever as king - they (we) all have different opinions on all sorts of things. You can't just broadly go "they think ____". As for 'why can't we all just wait and see how it pans out?' - are you seriously expecting everyone only comment on things from at least a year ago so that we can all comment with hindsight? Is instantly analysis and reaction not allowed? We'll sit back and look at the big picture once the big picture has happened. We might change our opinion over time, we might not. We'll see when we get there.

The run-ins just made no sense. Miz and Truth try to have Punk pin Triple H, but then later when Punk was gonna get the 3 count, Truth pulled him out? NO SENSE.

So... basically... ROH?

I see Joe as a modern day analogy to Taz. If the WWE were to be really serious about pushing him, rather than starting strong then giving up on him, he could be a really solid big-quick-push guy. Like Brock too in a way.

Biggz' persistence amuses me. For what it's worth, i'm another who scored it for Edgar. Only barely though - First two rounds were Penn's, last 3 for Edgar. I can see logic in it going either way. I think the problem here is that it was a close fight - and close fights that go to the judges will be controversial no matter what. If they're not controversial, it wasn't close enough.

I don't think you can really put an ideology (or even a 'left or right'?) on wrestling fans - it's just too diverse a group. There are Anarchist wrestling fans and there are Fascist wrestling fans, i don't think it can really be tied down.

Slash fiction is massively popular with a lot of women. Seriously.

Nash and Hall are dicks, but they're the kind of dicks you'd love to hang around with.

We've got all the sex discussion shows at night on Virgin1 and all that, Five and Channel 4/More4 have the occasional documentaries about "the perfect penis" or "the woman with massive tits" or whatever, some dramas will chuck a few knockers in there for art's sake... Nudity is all over our TV - anything goes after 9 of course...

I've gotta say it again, how does this ratings stuff make any sense? How many people have precognition and go "wait, i can sense the Knockouts will do a striptease in a minute, better tune in!"? It was in the overrun - ie. people who had tuned in for the next show but not Impact, combined with the people that were still watching Impact. Surely overruns will always be the same if not higher? Looking at ratings only makes sense if everyone clearly turns off at a certain point. If it's for turning on, how would they have known what exact segment they were turning on to?

Talk about ungrateful

It certainly wasn't his best promo, i just thought it was a good example of his intensity and charisma. Perhaps a bit too long, but damn, he's good at what he does.

...What? Why don't you sack all the other Americans if you're pushing Angle too? You've still got Wolfe staying i see by the way. Surely by now we're past "only Americans on an American show"? Especially as we're the 51st State and all.

Oh man, I would kill to see JBL-New Jack. I ****ing love New Jack, and that would be a brawl to end all brawls (not a Brawl For All, mind). Stifftastic!

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Geez...I wonder how that ended? Oh wait...we all know how it ended...with a massive unemployment line. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In fairness, it wasn't all clear-cut "oh WCW sucked and failed from the start through to the end". In 1997, they were well ahead and Vince was struggling. Let's not neglect how significant that is.</p>

Man, i love reading this thread <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know the joys and wonders of text comunication, as you call them, <strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline;">LOL</span></em></strong> and as you see althoug i didn't use a smile or LOL in all of my jokes, i did use a LOL on this one (wich was the most criticized), wich doesn't mean i have to use them all the time i make a joke. I didn't even had to use them on the mortgadge joke...cause it's obvious that Turner would never let things get to that point. But i understand what you mean, and i know your right. Sadly there is people who say stuff like that...in a serious way. But if you did not knew...now you know i'm not one of those guys.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> When i referenced the mortgage thing, i didn't think "Oh boy, this guy really thinks Turner would need a mortgage?", i just used the same metaphor for "running short of money" that you did. Obviously, Ted Turner's idea of running short of money is different to the average person's (where they <em>would</em> need to get a mortgage).</p><p> </p><p> If anything, you're the one who's misinterpreted what's been said <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

I just looked it up and Turner has less money than i thought. Obviously he's got ****ing loads, but compared to other rich people, not so much. I've always thought of him like Roman Abramovich, who has pumped over a billion quid (so, 2 billion dollars) into Chelsea FC with scant monetary reward. Obviously, compared to that, 100 million is bugger all. But Abramovich is worth 8.5 billion dollars, and Turner 2.0 billion. Perhaps he wouldn't be so happy to deal with a 100 million loss. Maybe he would though. Thing is, we can't change the past, so we really don't know. Edit: Hold on, there are two ways of quantifying a billion. A thousand million, and a million million. And i've completely lost track of which the values i've listed apply to

Honestly, i think WCW would still be going today sans-buyout. It was Turner's baby. And i don't think he would've been anywhere near mortgaging his house or anything of that ilk - let's be clear, Turner has a lot of money. He can afford to piss a few million away.

shawn michaels 82, businesses that are in profit tend not to go out of business. You'll be waiting a while

500 x 40.

Different people look for different things in wrestling. We don't all have the same standards

Benoit had intensity though, which more than made up for lack of size. Like Tazz, or even Angle.

'Trying to injure people'? Well, at least now we know where ol' Bill was going wrong