PeterHilton

Oh, Ric. I get that it's his job to pimp TNA, but do he have to take a dump on his entire career since the mid 80s? Evolution? WM against Undertaker? The match with HBK that mightve been the best send off ever? Ah well...

LenDale has had a rep as a lazy POS since his USC days. If anything , the fact he took this supplement is probably more effort than what most people expect of him. And - not to beat a dead horse - but maybe trading picks to aquire a guy that you KNEW had a reputation as being a scumbad AND was about to be suspended. Maybe Pete coulda thought that through more.

To be fair though, they are pretty lolz

If you're talking about "bigges issue" then yes. But in that case you have to look at everything the league does with it's officials: how they are chosen. how they are trained. which games they officiate. their pay scale. the fact that - biologically speaking - you'd be better off having much younger officials who can run up and down the court better and see with more clarity. etc.

Yeah, that's stupid. EDIT: Having read through your other posts, I think what your really saying is that the WWE product is pushing out as many fans as it's brought in, which is fair enough. (although..again..who cares? If I'm a giant corporation, I'd rather have the family crowd with disposable income than the insanely fickle net fans and young male audience who will spend hours trying to find a stream to avoid pying for a PPV) Cena as a performer is doing his job. The way he's booked is definitely gettning a mixed reaction.

The Raiders shouldn't win as you said. Besides, there's nothing that FORCES teams to give guaranteed money. Every team in every sport could give contracts based on incentives if they wanted.

Like others said, you just don't like Cena. I would just add that the overall point of wrestling is to get people to pay to watch you work Cena has kids and their parents paying out their ass to buy his stuff. He has women coming to arenas. And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSXySayq2w This is an example of people paying just to hate on him. Who cares if net nerds wanna cry; the E takes their cash all the same.

Ridiculous. T's getting rescinded happens all the time.

If you listen ot the Dan patrick show, Tim Donaghy has been on there for days pointing out how the biases of the refs swing willy between games. He said that league oifficials come in beforehand to talk to the referees working that night's game and show them calls that they want to see officiated differently. They never come out and say "give this team these calls" but based on the replays they are shown and the emphasis of certain plays, it's implied. At least according to Donaghy. i'm not a big NBA conspiracy theory guy but it seems plausible.

For what it's worth: http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/140280/Eric-Bischoff:-Working-the-Fans-or-Leaving-TNA?.htm

Age is never an issue. It's about how "old" you are in terms of being new to the audience. Batista became a major star well into his 30s. But you're right. If all they want is a hype man..fine.

C'mon fellas...keep up here. I just said why there should be a change: "And if you're going to create some breakout black superstar then the gimmick has to feel authentic and I honestly think that any new black viewers who tune in to WWE who also happen to be fans of hip hop are going to look at Truth and say 'WTF? when did Treach from Naughty By Nature start wrestling?' And they are going to immediately tune out because the WWE clearly has no frickin clue because R Truth as a rapper (a CURRENT rapper) is phony as hell." If all you want is a popular face midcarder to work the crowd, awesome. But since the discussion way back when was about creating a crossover star to appeal to a black audience the E covets, then he can't be your guy. Because he's so off the mark that it's likely to turn people off. He's not a rapper. He's like some ridiculous approximation of what a hopelessly out of date corporation thinks a rapper should be.

I never saw you mention any 5 roster members specifically so I have no idea what you're talking about in regards to that. My mistake if I missed that post. And yes. That's my problem. He's playing a rapper ie a CURRENT rapper and he's dated. If he came out and said" I'm old school and I keep it old school" or whatever then that would be acceptable or at least make more sense. But he's not. Hence the issue. His look doesn't match his gimmick. And if you're going to create some breakout black superstar then the gimmick has to feel authentic and I honestly think that any new black viewers who tune in to WWE who also happen to be fans of hip hop are going to look at Truth and say "WTF? when did Treach from Naughty By Nature start wrestling? " And they are going to immediately tune out because the WWE clearly has no frickin clue because R Truth as a rapper (a CURRENT rapper) is phony as hell.

You're the one who implied that the five black members of the roster (which is wrong I believe..I'm pretty sure there's more) needed to have completely separate looks for some reason. i was asking why is all. And FYI i'm of mixed hispanic/black heritage with two kids who's mom is black. I'm perfectly comfortable talking about (not to imply I know more about this subject or whatnot..just that I'm comfortable) He's playing a rapper. not an era specific rapper. imo.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, you have 5 each with their OWN appearance. So what would you propose to do different and it not be taken from the other 4?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why does it have to be so unique? The audience can't tell black people apart?</p><p> </p><p> There are certainly enough similar looking white guys on the roster.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He can do this again:<p> </p><p> <span>http://images.tvrage.com/people/35/104567.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> which was after this:</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.coliseumwrestlingboxing.com/ron_killings.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The first is an improvement.</p><p> </p><p> The second...wow. White denim with airbrush. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Can someone mail him a current copy of Source magazine. Please.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Then it's safe to say you haven't seen the black people a few blocks away from my townhouse saying "s'up", waz up" and a few others phrases and still in their 30's not knowing how to keep their pants off the ground.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know those dudes. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> i think the point is..how many of them watch wrestling?</p><p> </p><p> I get what you're saying hellshock, but it's a stretch to say there's a specific audience that Truth's look appeal to. More likely, there's not enough people in the WWE audience that are in to hip hop and can tell the difference between what's current now and what was current in 1995. </p><p> </p><p> He has a dated look. Period.</p><p> </p><p> Someone (Truth or a writer or somebody) should update him. Period.</p><p> </p><p> Especially if the goal is - as mentioned - to create a superstar to appeal to the black audience.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Killings is no different its not like he even looks like a typical 40 year old from his side of the streets. Luda cut his braids off, Ice Cube got rid of the curls, Ice T cut his hair. All of these men are in entertainment and all of them have switched their look up to appear more modern. So saying that its his generation and its how people his age dress isn't even accurate. Its how his generation dressed 20 years ago. Heck its how I would have dressed 20 years ago when I was in the 8th grade gangsta dancing to Coolio's "gangsta paradise" in my suburban home without a clue what he was talking about. I use to sag my jeans and wear Bugle Boy t shirts. 20 years later I've stopped doing that. Not that Bugle Boy was ever in style but my point has been made.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wolnderfully put.</p><p> </p><p> Although..how awesome would it be to have R Truth show up with a full on Gheri curl out of nowhere?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here is another way to look at it too.<p> </p><p> JTG has an image that caters to the younger Bling Bling/ grill wearing generation while R-Truth caters to the older nearing 40 generation.</p><p> </p><p> They have someone for both ends of their age demographic.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I call shenanigans on a hip hop character appealing to that niche "40 year old gangsta demographic" of the WWE audience.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At the same time what if McMahon updated his music to a more current song? Wouldn't fly with someone almost as old as my dad. So he's stuck sort of....<p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ehhhh...that's a fair point.</p><p> </p><p> But how many people would know how old Killings is IRL. They've updated theme songs before. Looks too. If they tweaked it a little and still did the "what's up" thing he'd be fine.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I didn't say it wasn't fair criticism. Just that's his personal style and preference. My dad is stuck in the 50's and 60's with music. But that's his style and not mine.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So is my dad...(in the 70s but still stuck) . ..I guess what I'm saying is that someone in the public eye you have to be more cognizant of that and adjust accordingly. </p><p> </p><p> It's basically his job to be 'cool.' That's part of the gig.</p>

<p>I'm with you. They went all in on this venture.</p><p> </p><p> If this fails, Eric is going to be looking for a 'real job' and Hogan is going to be out working the nostalgia circuit like Randy the Ram.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the record when I said Truth had a good "look," I was referring to his stature and physique. I don't think I addressed that previously.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with this. That's why it bugs me. If he fixed the little details like his hair he'd be set.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm disappointed at you. There's a TNA thread for this *tsk tsk*</p><p> </p><p> Unless....<em>INVASION????</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Tough on that too.<p> </p><p> Clothes are a lot different then your personal dancing style and musical preference.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm criticizing his look. That's my point. He LOOKS dated.</p><p> </p><p> You're a wrestler..you tellin me it's not a fair criticism of a guy who hasn't changed his look since the end of the Attitude Era?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On this, Ron Killings is 38 years old. So he grew up on the New Jack swing era. He's by far the oldest of the bunch and is going with the style he knows.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tough.</p><p> </p><p> I'm 34. I don't run around in British Knights and Guess jean overalls with one strap down. </p><p> </p><p> If you're in entertainment it's your job to adapt. </p><p> </p><p> Or if all else fails, someone in production or the writing team who's turned on a TV in the last decade should tell him he looks dated</p>