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Doesn't matter Jaysin's point still stands. Just because they have tagged occasionally or lately doesn't make them a tag team. All those undercard real teams could really get a help from the exposure. The thrown together ones are just that thrown together till they figure out what to do with them as singles wrestlers.

Ah the good old torch the national enquirer of wrestling. Not good enough to use as toilet paper imho lol.

Well Joe did move the needle somewhat for TNA's standards but your point stands that in total that is not the same as WWE standards. Also Joe moving that needle for the most part was contingent on his feud with Angle so it was both Joe and Angle that resulted in that. With Angle highly likely taking most of the credit for that.

WTF! Nothing to do with TNA or WWE. It's wrestling!!! Everyone is taller, heavier etc etc. Then they actually are.

Mainly due to better and wider distribution and lowering overhead. But yeah the marks are what matter but that is the good thing about this board as most people here look at stuff from a marks perspective and a business perspective and make clear when it is personal perspective. A large or at least loudest part unfortunately of the IWC believes their own hype and their own memes. But this is getting way off topic and I have had this discussion too much. Still = Not being in the business does not mean having a valid opinion.

We shall see it's opinion. Agree with the overly negative tone and the over retro booking of the IWC but shutting up just because we don't have the power or the so called "experts" is a lame argument.

Miz is pretty good on the Mic and average in the ring. But I saw him in the beginning and see him now I don't see a major improvement he has just gotten more accepted and got a better catch phrase and style. Orton still bores the hell out of me but he does hold his own as a main eventer. It's more for lack of better talent or willing to push other talent to me though. Barrett has some charisma at at least midcard level. Gabriel maybe midcard level. The rest no.

Also I do believe that with the addition of Hogan etc that Nash has become superflous and that once the EV2 stuff is over they are surplus to requirements as well.

Seeing as they already have all those other guys they don't need to ad Matt. Jeff Hardy the name draws more then the Hardy Boys name imho. But having both Jeff Hardy and Mick Foley draws more then having Jeff Hardy and the other Hardy imho.

Less wrestlers is always cheaper hehe. But Jeff's appeal and Mick's appeal don't overlap as much as Jeff and Matt's. Jeff (1) + Mick (1) would result in a 1.5 appeal but Jeff (1) + Mat (1) would result in a 1.1. If you catch my drift. Plus we don't actually know how much Mick is costing TNA atm or how much Matt would cost.

But just having Jeff would be cheaper then having both lolz. And what others EdgeOfReason? OJ? Jethro?

Still dejected over his defeat? Or kicked out because he doesn't have the title any-more seeing as he wasn't a core member.

Just rechecked all Hogan's vids from hospital and he never said that. Edit: Ah you meant the other He eg Burke. Sorry hadn't been able to see the vid yet due to internet difficulties. The Hogan ones I could buffer ahead this one I could not.

Well that would mean even greater continuity lolz. But I was more referring to his if I lose I quit storyline. This way he doesn't lose but doesn't win either. Makes it more interesting for the smarks/IWC. Not that that matters a lot but still.

Also like that the BFG main event will be the three way, have some reservations on how they got there but that is another point. With a three way it will be more interesting for smarks as either Hardy or Anderson can win by pinning the other and Angle can still claim he hasn't lost.

EV2 as a group is more of a draw then Matt on his own imho. He is only a draw as a tag team or a midcard jobber as the E uses him imho. Matt is just played out and his window of opportunity has passed imho. BTW Sayso source for the ratings? It's just good netiquette to mention it.

So it seems even stronger that Matt Hardy is TNA bound from his twitter comments. Thoughts? As I think I posted before I don't like it.

PWInsider reported the following A user on Twitter asked Matt Hardy the following: @MATTHARDYBRAND What r the chances 2 c u @ WWE Europe tour in November? Or would it be better 2 buy tics 4 TNA in Berlin in January? Hardy replied: I'd go with Berlin.. This is Matt Hardy so take it for what you will, but it certainly is an interesting response. from PWI copied from TNAsylum, so sue me for reading a rumour site it's the only rumour site I read and I treat them as such. Lolz on the Ricci comment love it.

<p>Just wondering something when talking about drawing power in the broad sense of the word.</p><p> </p><p> A) What made you start watching Impact?</p><p> </p><p> B) What kept you watching Impact?</p><p> </p><p> C) If applicable why did you stop watching?</p><p> </p><p> D) If applicable what made you start watching again?</p><p> </p><p> A) They where showing on Eurosport for a brief time and I hadn't seen wrestling in ages</p><p> </p><p> B) The X Division and tag division.</p><p> </p><p> c and d non applicable.</p>

<p>Now that is me being biased hehe.</p><p> </p><p> But not going to argue about their relative merits and attitudes as towards worker health as I did that somewhere else and it tired me out and irritated the hell out of me.</p><p> </p><p> Plus we are talking about the E here not in comparison or TNA on it's own.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As opposed to that all encompassing health system TNA has, right? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TNA HAS THE BEST HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We may disagree on many things, but we will agree here. <p> </p><p> I actually don't care about her being the escort, or the pictures. It's the fact that either lied (possible) and omitted it (likely). Being escort on top of lying about or omitting it makes it that much critical.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Same here, sorry if that wasn't clear was trying to be quick. Crownsy wasn't aimed at you but more to clear something up. Ah well who cares she's gone and the E does (possibly) employ a double standard. And yeah their "health" system is a joke. Not so much on paper but the pervasive culture in the E. Still not going to argue this as it is endless and we don't have all the info.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're so TNA biased it pains me to read most of your popsts</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lol it was a joke! But yeah I am a fan of TNA but calling me biased is going overboard imho. Problem with writing sometimes I mean stuff more as a joke or sarcastic and it's hard to make clear.</p><p> </p><p> Plus didn't I just bash Lacey Von Erich in that same post? I was trying to parody the 411 comment section on TNA in part.</p>

Yeah I remembered her being fired over it, she was the announcer I meant, but didn't remember if the stress was on the existence of the footage or her lying about it.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yea, thats pretty much my take, that it's a borderline trolling attempt.<p> </p><p> Also, people need to stop bringing things up from the attitude era and pretending their onto a double standard.</p><p> </p><p> Business's change direction all the time, and change thier hiring and firing practices, even morso in the entertainment/sports arena.</p><p> </p><p> 15 years ago, what would become the UFC allowed sumo wrestlers to fight lightweights and ring girls to pretty much strip at cageside. </p><p> </p><p> Now they want to be seen as more professional and not a blood sport, so the code of conduct for employees has changed, do you think if, for instance, one of the ring girls was found to be an escort Dana should keep her because 10-15 years ago they were hiring strippers?</p><p> </p><p> or should he keep a guy who ignores the drug testing policy because 12-15 years ago no one cared?</p><p> </p><p> Companies change, corporate culture changes and employees need to change with them or find a new job.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maryse did full nudity shot and Kim topless shots so they do still maintain a double standard. Micky has done some raunchy stuff and they kept her on during the PG era, Kim was hired during it, Maria was kept on during the PG era and even promoted her shoot.</p><p> </p><p> Specifically towards Aloisa</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of the existence of the picture: Double standard</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of lying about the existence of the pictures: No double standard or miscommunication but still rotten.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because she might have been an escort: Dumb and rotten move.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because they have proof she was an escort or/and she lied about it: rotten move by the E but understandable and forgiveable.</p>