Hive

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Truly" data-cite="Truly" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJygxDnlEo" rel="external nofollow">#IMPACT365 Rockstar Spud Bickers with a Little Kid</a><p> </p><p> I'm finally seeing what it is about Spud that so many people love about him. The guy is gold! Like someone else said, give this guy a faction where he can be their mouthpiece.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was absolutely great.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dpoolez" data-cite="dpoolez" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If Dixie and Co. can't get it right they might as well let WWE buy them out right now and get it over with IMO.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I honestly doubt that WWE would want to.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Colby" data-cite="Colby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd agree with hostility to start, as well as for hostile towards any companies still in the NWA; as well as maybe Bill Watts' promotion? etc.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ECW/WCW hostility has been added.</p><p> </p><p> A hostility relationship between ECW and NWA-NJ, where president Dennis Coraluzzo reigned, was already included.</p><p> </p><p> Bill Watts... he had no promotion at this time, did he...? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Colby" data-cite="Colby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>ECW Save Notes:<p> - Raven became booker of IWF, while this might be realistic to his capabilities I feel as if he should be set to loyal to ECW or something to make him not become booker for others and only work PPA for them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But that might also prevent him from taking bookings from anyone else, won't it? And won't it prevent him from being snatched up on a written by WCW or WWF, as he did in real life?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Is there a reason 911 is and gets the recommended push of Authority Figure? I just don't know enough without doing a bit of research, thought I'd point it out.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fixed.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Speaking of which, AAA guys like Misterio Jr and the likw did work Hardcore TV matches and can't here. Not much you can do about it though, other then setting my TV to tape on a different day; which I did, just a note for you though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> AAA TV will be moved to Tuesdays.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Terry Funk wouldn't work a 1v1 ECW title Match with hardcore settings against Sandman at the first event because of his physical condition being all yellow. Thus just the singles match only garnered a 59 rating, what would fix this?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is a bit tougher to fix, but I'll try boosting his physical stats. Not quite accurate perhaps, but might be the only way to have him do all those hardcore matches well into his pension age.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Trying to figure out a way to better accomodate ECW's product, they almost need their own match type to be honest. Just been setting more normal people to non-brawl or hardcore based matches or they start bitching. However much of ECW had interference, run-ins, and weapons without DQ.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't quite know what to do about this, leaving it as it is for now.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- December to Dismember is not ECW's PPV that was WWE's incarnation, I changed mine to Holiday Hell; Gangstaz Paradise should be Sept. 95 and I changed a few others to suit and also give me 12 months (1 per) worth of events</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not true, ECW ran December to Dismember as a non-PPV supercard in 1995. WWE then later brought it back.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Paul Heyman should have a hatred or strong dislike of Bill Watts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Strong dislike relationship added.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Starting to wonder if ECW should be at war with more people (WCW?) Wish there were more options for talent trade available right now, domestically (WWF) and otherwise but thats just from a lack of promotions and talent. However I definitely think ECW could use more hostility pacts across the United States, perhaps with feds engaged in the regional battle.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure what the basis for this would be, as I can see they shared workers with a lot of other regional promotions back then. I know WCW often raided ECW, but if I put in an actual war I'm afraid they'll get crushed...</p><p> </p><p> Once again thanks for your reports!</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It was? I don't remember that.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm fairly sure it was the first time he actually interacted with Hogan, though I have no idea when he first appearing in the crowds as described by franticloser.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone know when the debut angle for The Giant was? I know his first match was at Halloween Havoc, but I can't seem to find his actual debut anywhere. <p> </p><p> Was it before or after the first Nitro? I know he starts off as a member of the roster in the data.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His first appearance was at Bash at The Beach 1995. He attacked Hogan from time to time after matches and in angles before his debut.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't know if Cactus was IN the Nest, but he was at least affiliated with Raven during the feud with Dreamer.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For the next release, he'll be involved in the storyline but not a member of The Nest.</p><p> </p><p> In other news, I just fixed the drug level issue for all promotions.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Colby" data-cite="Colby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Downloading the new updated data now and taking a try at ECW; as I recently re-watched the old ECW DVD released by WWE years ago. I'll report back. Going to continue my WCW game and get my unposted notes in there but some of those are on the old version; nothing much of note mostly just small nitpicky statistics stuff that could possibly be changed.<p> </p><p> Thanks again Hive.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Np. I'm glad you enjoy it so much. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Trying to find a way to expand Nitro intro Canada, and then other markets but having trouble getting TNT to allow pretty much anything.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's because TNT airs in Canada. You just be happy that I didn't actually make WCW owned by TBS, which would block EVERYTHING. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> As it stands, you can expand into Mexico or Japan, for example, without any issues.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Jody Hamilton, aka Assasin #2 is retired and has low scouting levels can't see anything; his experience also says 6 years. Just a small fix up needed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah yes, I somehow accidentally set his debut age to be his retirement age.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- There are a few guy on my roster who's scouting levels a bit debatable based on their experience. I don't dislike it personally as it adds an extra element of skill and guesswork to things; much like real-life booking. Gonna start to compile specific ones so I'm not just nitpicking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The scouting thing is a result of my never actually fixing that on all workers when porting my mods from TEW2010, will fix those I stumble upon/have reported.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Gene Okerland is still collecting performance and other mic stats, your call. In my opion he should either already be at that level or soon capping in game in terms of skill gain. This being said, he was in a segment with Hogan thus may it may have been rubbing off, I dont know.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll see what I can do.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Luger got hit with Steriod usage in Week 1 of October, Regal in Week 2. Flair in Week 3 for Hard Drugs, and November first day for juice, along with Sting; who are the first people who responded well to my non-action in the situation. Told me he would get clean.... I love this game.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I did my best to make drug levels more reasonable as to not completely ding performances, so keep me updates on this area of the mod! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Jake Roberts and DDP are no longer friends, looks like The Snake's chances in showing up down south just decreased greatly. It it noted however that they are not enemies, having just parted ways. This may actually be true of real-life at any given time with the two, or Jake and anyone. Will be interestng to see if they ever become friends again lmao, I wonder if the game takes into account things like past relationship tendencies when generating new ones. Interesting thought.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Interesting, I've never seen a friendship break up before.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- I also switched the face/heel divide to none.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I considered this at one point, but ultimately decided that they had enough feuds with a strong enough face/heel divide to warrant a such.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Chris Benoit should start with a WCW contract just like Eddy and Dean as all three got stolen from ECW/Indys at the same time.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Benoit didn't actually show up in WCW untill 1-2 months later iirc, finishing up a tour in NJPW first. And this way, people who are uncomfortable with him may opt out of signing him.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Steve Austin thinks ECW is too small, while this may be true in terms of the scenarios stats he did have a stint in the company post-WCW, pre-WWF whilst still injured, and even upon his in-ring return for a short period.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I will tweak down his overness a wee bit and see if that helps.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Cactus Jack is affiliated (stable) with Raven's Nest, is this correct?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think so, yes, judging from my research. But I'm not strong in ECW, so could be wrong.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- I also agree all low-level companies should have drug-testing automatically set to off to begin the game.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, forgot about that. Will look into it.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks for all the comments, man! Keep them coming!</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Clarity" data-cite="Clarity" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>**SPOILERS**</strong><p> About as much sense as replacing Nick Fury with his son who looks uncannily similar to the Nick Fury of the Ultimate universe, who adopts the name Nick Fury and is pretty much given Nick Furys job?!?!?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wow, really? Stuff like this is why I stopped reading the comics back in the days... sounds like a rejected wrestling storyline from the 90's...</p>

Spider-Man has a sister now? Dear lord... as if it wasn't bad enough when they temporarily brought back his parents...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Swanton825" data-cite="The Swanton825" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone else like to pretend that Ziggler is Curt's son instead?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've always felt there were similarities between the two and that Ziggler would do really well with a Mr. Perfect-ish gimmick.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's listed on wikipedia bu there's no data there.<p> </p><p> Here's some data from wrestling classics </p><p> <a href="http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=18;t=000007" rel="external nofollow">http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=18;t=000007</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not a lot to go off, but extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Promotion to consider adding: North Georgia Wrestling Alliance <p> </p><p> It was open from 94-96/97ish and was a developmental territory for WCW.</p><p> </p><p> Some data on it:</p><p> Scott Hudson and Steven Prazak were the announcers</p><p> Joel Deaton, Chris Walker, New Jack, Mustafa, Bully Busick worked there. Buff Bagwell, Scotty Riggs, Disco Inferno (as Brooklyn Stud) Raven (Scott Levy) Ray Lloyd (Glacier) all worked there before moving on up.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wow, really? I have never ever heard of this before. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> It sounds like a great little promotion, but where have you read about it? My quick google search gave me nothing, nor did my usual sources.</p>

The thing is that if his body is put in the 50's, there's a good chance it will result in him retiring within 2-4 years. I'll look into this, and might adjust phyiscal attributes of several workers - but I don't think I dare be as drastic as you suggest, sorry.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lazorbeak" data-cite="lazorbeak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I realize it would be a hassle to go through individually, but just clicking around, it looks like almost no physical deterioration is in the mod at present. Guys like Pillman, Flair and Savage definitely need to have significantly more physical deterioration, as all were beginning to feel the effects of a flashier style by the time they were in their late 30's to 40's, along with the grind of just wrestling so many matches.<p> </p><p> Add to that the puro guys- puro puts a beating on a wrestler's body, so Kobashi and Misawa, both major names for several years by now, probably need to show some physical effects.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In theory, I agree. However, if I give guys like Flair and Savage severe physical deterioration, they'll end up retiring within a few years from the beginning of the game. And Flair still did 60-minute iron man matches around this time, so while he wasn't a young man anymore, he was still pretty good.</p>

Why on earth would you not watch LOTR chronologically?<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

<p>I fully agree with RayW (except for the "prefer DC over Marvel" part <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />); it's an absurdly rushed approach they're taking with this, and I don't think it will be the Avengers-ish success they aim for.</p><p> </p><p> But eh... I don't care much for DC heroes these days. I loved them as a kid, and Superman is the only comic I ever had an actual subscription for - but the older I got, I found DC's characters to be more and more cartoonish and child-like compared to Marvel - the exceptions being Batman (whom is best described as a Marvel hero in a DC world) and, partially, Green Lantern. It's a shame really, especially since many of DC's <em>villains</em> are actually top notch... but I simply find the heroes too silly and one-dimensional for the most part.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, with all that said, I'd still like to see DC succeed. Superheroes are so insanely hot these days that even with Marvel, Fox and Sony churning out 1-2 movies each per year, I could easily see room for Warner Brothers doing the same. If they manage to do it <em>right</em>. A weak and rushed copy of The Avengers won't do.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25823" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So Zack Snyder is going to be directing the JLA movie... great... another "Dark gritty" interpretation to brace for. God forbid we actually enjoy ourselves at a superhero movie.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thankfully, we have The Avengers for that. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Big Mikey" data-cite="Big Mikey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm going to give this mod a go I just want to know a couple things. I've looked at some of the workers and I see they have their potential set already. I like to play my games as a more of a what if rather than a historical simulation when it comes to what guys developed and which ones don't. Will this screw things up a lot if I do this?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you can live with things like Paul Roma becoming the new Bret Hart and Kurt Angle getting low potential, go for it. I personally just see it this way: whether a guy has the potential to be a good or bad wrestler wouldn't change due to random circumstances, only their overness would. And that can already happen. But you play as you like. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37869" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Same question about time decline. I didn't search that one much but if you have it set on everyone and I set it to random is going to mess up your game world? Last thing I want is to get a few years down the road and no one is developing and everyone is on time decline or something if I were to set it to random.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Only 4-5 guys (at most) have set retirement ages, to prevent guys like Flair and Terry Funk to retire right off the bat. I have not touched time decline, that's on random. Because unlike potential, I feel time decline actually *could/ change due to random circumstances.</p>

Very well, I will try removing it for the next release.

I believe all AI companies automatically gets low level drug policies regardless.

<p>Very well then...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:36px;">WoTW 1.06 has hereby been released!</span></p><p> </p><p> Enjoy! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

Yeah, that's the time. He was convinced everyone around him had betrayed him because Jimmy Hart had, iirc.

<p>Speaking of Sting vs. Hogan, does anyone remember in late 1995 when WCW were testing the waters for a Hogan heel turn... and had the two fight (possibly for Sting's US title, can't recall) a singles match on Nitro? Sting, being the crowd favorite, had Hogan in a Scorpion Deathlock, teasing him winning, when the Dungeon of Doom attacked both and made it a no-contest...</p><p> </p><p> It's an often overlooked match, with the Starrcade 1997 match being perceived as their first encounter.</p>

I know most people are in awe by Paige's perceived beauty and all, but... am I the only one who thinks she's not all that attractive compared to most other divas? She's too tall and her piercing ruins her otherwise cute face...