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Who ever thought "let's put the tag belts on the Men of Steel!"? Fun team for sure. And super talented. But in a company with Hot Stuff, Absolutely Flawless, the Red Devils and Crouching Storm, Hidden Sifu... Nope.

This is spectacular. The storyline writes itself. Now how to use the "shave" note in 21CW...

Im mostly OK with the starting storylines. Cornell vs Cornell was a 2016 staple - but because it's money. 2 fantastic workers who happen to be relatives... I see it as something 21CW will always keep coming back to over and over again. I'm just keeping it short. Run it until World War in Feb then end it ]for now]. The one I worry about is Hellbound vs the Rising Stars. It's tough to run because the crowd just don't care about most of the people in the feud. I got a 71 out of a Faust promo with none of the others rated but it's hard slogging. I'll be ending it after Steel Cage Challenge. 3 man Army is another toughy. I like the idea of the group. But I think they need different opposition. I like the 3 of them chasing after a star. Instead of a thrown-together rival trio. I'm going into SCC now. Cornell vs Cornell is hot. Obviously. DBF vs Apollo P surprisingly fun. DBF is trying to get a fair fight. Apollo glitterbombing him and stuff like that. Leigh B vs Luke Cool is fun too. Basically I running it as a series of attempts to one-up each other by trying to be more impressive against the same opponents. I'll run a heel/heel match at some point but no rush. Adam M in a minifeud with Hot Stuff is going well. Buff will fail to beat Adam at SCC leading to J-B flipping out and attacking him and a Buff turn. RJS and Wade O [who dont get on for real] are having a minifeud too. I love Wade

Yeah that's what I thought. So I tried again with Faust on entertainment, Grave digger on menace and noone else rated. Still disappointing. If menace has been killed to the point where it doesn't help someone like Grave digger that's a problem isn't it? Either way... the Hellbound need a proper opponent.

I'm being frustrated by the Hellbound guys. Faust angles with the others standing around looking scary/mean are only getting 55/60 ratings. This seems very low. Am I doing something silly?

Michael Gregory came in on a short term contract. I thought I'd stick him in a mask. Beat him up a bit. Maybe bring him back down the road. First show he was in a thrown together team with Kelvin Badberry getting squashed in pre show. Great chemistry. The two are now a comedy/evil tag team of baddies in border costumes.

Is there a place that lists which storylines you've moved on in a show and which you haven't? Given you can get dinged for not doing so it feels like the game should tell you if you're going to fail at this.

Hi everyone. With TEW20 out I’ve been fiddling around with my beloved 21CW. There’s some great notes and ideas in this thread already but I thought I’d add my thoughts to the mix. How I think 21CW works best: With the new popularity/push system this is even more true than it used to be – 21CW is a company built around a handful of stars. This is not the USA or Japan or Mexico where you can find a new star somewhere else to add some pull. In the UK, the biggest stars are the ones you make and maintain. So, you’ve got an odd dynamic where you have all the talent – but it’s a bit of a closed shop. You need to maintain popularity through show grades [because normally Jeff asks you to not shrink] but you can’t really get in new workers to help you do that because there’s no one bigger than the guys you already have. Which means you need to keep your stars. And you can’t just elevate everyone, because that leads to spiralling costs. Because you need good grades you need to make sure most of your shows are built around your top stars [at least in the beginning]. You’ll need matches featuring Eddy Cornell, Tommy Cornell and Adam Matravers. Probably 2 on most shows. You’ll also need to feature angles with those same guys and your other big star – Jeff Nova. All of which means you need at least 2 hot storylines built around your top guys – and preferably find a way to get 3 or 4. Those storylines need to be on every show. Or you’ll probably shrink in the UK. So: you’ve got a handful of stars and they need to be front and centre of everything you do. At the same time you need to be building to help take the pressure of those guys. Because if one of them leaves, or gets hurt you’re in trouble. Things I think [or that need sorting out] in no particular order: Luke Cool vs Leigh Burton is heel/heel As has been mentioned before there are several ways to sort this out. I lean towards keeping it going as a heel rivalry – but rotating in faces to avoid the Heel vs Heel issue. Let’s be honest – Leigh Burton is always going to win this feud – you just need to find a good way to do that without tanking your grades [because you need the storyline to be good]. Jeff Nova is wasted You’ve got 4 real star names. And one of them is the colour commentary guy. You can leave him there if you want but he’s a star name who is fantastic in angles. Finding a way to make Jeff more useful is very tempting. There are a few ways to do this. Have him as commissioner, a manager, or representing the soul of the company. But getting him out from behind the desk is a good way to take advantage of one of your best assets. Hot Stuff and Kathleen Lee just don’t need each other They’ve been together for a long time but this relationship just isn’t helping anyone. Buff and J-B can both talk. And Kathleen is another potential star for you – having 3 people who can all drive success for you tied together at the top of the card is limiting. Splitting the group up is way more profitable than keeping them together. Blackheart and Grave Digger These two are both members of Jonathan Faust’s Hellbound stable [along with Bedlam]. That will definitely help them grow and improve but adding them as a tag team [even an occasional one] is a bit of a no-brainer. The roster is heel-heavy. You’ve got 17 Heel wrestlers who are well-known or above. Compared to just 12 faces. This isn’t a disaster in 21CW because the basic sports entertainment template is “face overcomes insurmountable odds” but it will limit your ability to keep providing sensible matches. You need to improve the ratio. You’ve got waaaay too many bald guys and monster heels Now personally I like sticking those guys in a mask or a silly costume and turning them into more vivid characters. There are alternatives of course. But you need some more distinction otherwise you may just treat a lot of them the same. Your issue is already a limited number of stars facing a rotating crowd of obstacles. Do yourself a favour and at least make those obstacles distinctive. The UK title It’s a nice, midcard title. Bedlam is a lot of fun. But it doesn’t really fit. Bedlam is a key member of the Hellbound. But the Hellbound are in a storyline that doesn’t revolve around the title. It’s a bit weird. Pitbull needs a job Pitbull Brown is a 21CW legend. The Man Who Never Gives Up. He’s a man without a job right now though [unless he’s your avatar]. He can be a road agent easily enough. But it seems a waste and that would give you 5 different road agents. Cliff Wilson [Dark Angel] is obviously amazing at it. Then The Steamroller, K’Lee Hawkins and DJ Reason can all do the job better than Pitbull. Child company / B Show One of the problems with the UK is the lack of other development opportunities. There are only two other companies and nether of them are likely to train workers up that fast. Given you need to have one eye on replacing your ageing stars you need more opportunities for young talent to work. You can just spam dark matches but a development territory makes much more sense and Is less hard work. Similarly a B show is a distinct possibility as you have a lot of talent you’ll struggle to regularly use on 21st century Wrestling. Using the B show to indulge in niche divisions [women’s, megaweight, tag, high-fliers] would also be a lot of fun. Jonathan Faust needs more to do Faust is just outside your group of stars. His popularity is only a few points below your top guys and given his entertainment skills he can get that high pretty fast. As leader of the Hellbound there’s a clear role for him to elevate your lower talent – but he can also be so much more. Faust needs to be the lynchpin of one of your storylines. Using him on Evan Alpass and Flynn and Boulder is not the best use of him. Phase out the dead wood You’ve got a lot of ageing workers in the midcard who are useful but expensive assets. Kevin Jones, Luke Cool, Philip Cooper, Antithesis, Rolling Johnny Stones… Even Daniel Black Francis and Mark Misery are in their mid 30s. These guys are useful but you just don’t need them all on written contracts. Feel free to keep around any of your favourites but when their contracts come up most should be let go. You can always bring them back on short-term deals later. Nightmare is in a category of his own. Bye bye Nightmare. Reduce the roster size The thing about not having any real competition is that you have no one to worry about stealing your talent. This goes back to the structure of 21CW. There are 3 types of wrestler you need on your roster: - Stars. The handful of guys that will carry your company. - Plausible opponents for your stars. The guys your stars can look good beating. - Future talent you’re training up. There are a limit number of these guys you can use. The middle category are really easy to find in the UK. You can hire them easily. But they lose momentum and you don’t have room on your cards to keep building them all up. The solution is simple – just employ the ones you need right now. There is no point in having 50 wrestlers on your roster. You can easily get by with 10-15 fewer and just rotate anyone who is not a star or a future star. Storyline ideas: The War of the Cornells This is great fun obviously – and Cornell vs Cornell is always good to go back to – but you’ve only got limited stars and having them in a program together reduces your options a lot. I’d much rather each Cornell cousin can hold up his own storyline to give me more strong ones. There’s a couple of fun matches here but I want to move on from this storyline relatively soon without really giving either a damaging loss. If Tommy has a long contract it’s tough to not stick the strap on him and make him your figurehead, with Ed taking his frustrations out on some other poor sap. Next up for Tommy If he takes the belt from Ed you can use Tommy to elevate so much about 21CW. Short feuds with all the heels you have are good for everyone. They get to train in the ring and ‘keep strong’ against Tommy Cornell is worth a lot. The likes of Beast Bantom, Leigh Burton, J-B Cash and Buff Martinez having 4-8 week programs with Tommy is great. 1 promo with Tommy in it and you've got heat. Next up for Ed Ed can simmer malevolently about his hatred for his cousin whilst building up his stable – the House of Business. BW Eddie, the Red Devils and Doomsday all get some airtime whilst Ed takes his frustrations out on people. Long-term I think this stable is too big and you’ll want to thin it out a bit. Adam Matravers and the fall of Hot Stuff Matravers needs something juicy to do. Hot Stuff and Kathleen Lee need a reason to split. You need more faces high on the card. Stick them all together and you’ve got a nice solution. Hot Stuff think Matravers is overrated and they can beat him. They try and fail, and Buff and J-B fall out over it. It all leads to a big blow-off match at World War where one of them turns and Kathleen walks away from them both. Pick a new star. Or two. You could do with another two stars at the top. More than 5 is asking for trouble. And one of them can easily be Jeff Nova or Kathleen Lee. But just 3 [in the ring] is a bit light. Your options are: Jonathan Faust Leigh Burton Wade Orson Or a few others. Pick one or two of these and raise them up the card. Cool vs Burton Either turn one [which will be rushed because you need this match at Steel Cage Challenge in 3 weeks] or add in another face. You could use Adam Matravers but someone a bit lower down makes more sense. The Underdogs, Absolutely Flawless, Sebastian Koller or Wade Orson all make sense. Cool and Burton trying to prove how great they are against the Underdogs [who don’t lie down] seems fun. DBF vs Apollo DBF is ageing but he’s super useful. And you’re heel-heavy at the top. Apollo Prince will have his day. I’ll avoid the temptation to give Prince the big win over the beloved vet. The Hellbound Great stable and Faust needs more spotlight. They just need better opposition. I’d finish off Alpass and his chums fast then move onto a feud around the UK title. Th Hellbound target a midcard face [Koller maybe?] as a potential recruit. He wants to take the title from Bedlam. Mayhem ensues. The Three Man Army The Three Man Army are a fun little unit to run amok over your lower-card faces but you’ll probably run out of them fairly fast. I’d end this storyline fairly fast so that the 3 man army can fight weekly tag title challengers [get some teams in on short term contracts] to build them up as midcard monsters. Mark Adonis does a prom with Mass Hulk standing behind him. Mystery tag team accepts the challenge. The Men of Steel win. War Machine either interferes. Or attacks post-match. Or they have a 3 vs 3 match. Keep in that holding pattern. For the faces – Sifu/Storm can do much more than this. And Muckletruck needs to be freed up… The Squashasaurus Roly Muckletruck’s usage writes itself. Weekly 5 minute squash matches again whichever local worker you fancy him fighting that week. It’s entertaining and he has the potential to be a star. Upcoming events and phasing: Steel Cage Challenge Your January PPV. If there are any starting feuds you want to end this is the time to do it. You don’t have much time before it so you’ll likely want to feature a match from all your existing storylines on it. Notably it’s probably your first opportunity for a Cornell vs Cornell match. You’ll need to have come up with a solution for Cool vs Burton by now. Either adding in a 3rd-man face or turning one of them already. World War This is your real opportunity to change the landscape of 21CW. I’ll be building to a huge Cornell vs Cornell match here before I split them up and keep them apart. There’s likely also a big win here for Leigh Burton over Luke Cool somehow. Matravers vs Hot Stuff will be a nice match leading to a turn for J-B or Buff. Apollo vs DBF will likely end here. If you’re elevating Wade Orson he can have a nice win here [beast Bantom, Kevin Jones, Rolling Johnny Stones, etc] You can fill in the card with some matches from your other feuds. Head to head This is an event for 1 vs 1 matches. Given you’ll likely have started some new feuds in the last 4 weeks avoid the temptation to give anyone a huge decisive win. I’d strongly expect a nice win for Tommy, Edward and Adam to be my top 3 matches. Over good opponents but no-one important. The Cornell Cup This is a fun one! Remember you can only have one team win [duh] so don’t try and load the tournament with dream teams. This is however a good place for Tommy to lose a match. As well as keeping the Cornell vs Cornell [which will no longer be an official storyline here] going. Adam and Ed beating Tommy and Beast Bantom in the final sounds about right.

So I've been playing a fun little 21CW game. After a loooong break. Just finished up Head to Head. Jonathan Faust vs Dark Angel - jewel on a post match Faust [and his lackey Grave Digger] captured Angel's soul in a jewel as part of a black magic ceremony after weeks of trying to recruit Angel. Angel has been trying to destroy the jewel and they fought for it here. Faust got to it after distraction from the Digger. Angel then simply lay down for Faust to win. It looks like Angel belongs to Faust now... The Red Devils defend tag titles vs Crouching Storm, Hidden Sifu The Devils cheated their way to another defense. They've been playing this one nastily for weeks. Seb Koller vs Bedlam - UK title Koller has been trying to stay away from the Kingsmen: Bedlam and War Machine with Cliff King managing them. They've been continually smashing Seb's stuff and making his life hell. Bedlam was doing well in this match but let his [inescapable] rage take over. The Purple Mist descended and he DQed himself by spitting the mst in Seb's face. Leigh Burton vs Leo - loser leaves town. The Pride split up recently with Leo bitter at all the attention Leigh has been getting. They've been feuding and Leigh won this to end Leo's employment at 21CW. It was a battle though and Leigh hated doing this to his ex partner. He's taking some time off to get over it. Semi main Tommy Cornell vs Wade Orson The future vs the past. Wade has been helping Matravers in his battle against the Cornells. Tommy was tricked into agreeing a fight so he can't be around to help Eddy out straight after. Wade fronted up well but it wasnt enough. Tommy got the win. Main Event Adam Matravers finally managed to get the one-on-one title match aganst Eddy Cornell he's been gunning for. He thought he had it a couple of weeks ago but Tommy Cornell managed to snag the referee spot. At H2H there was no messing about because Tommy was busy with Wade and Adam managed to snag the win. Wooo! What's next... Matravers will defend his title against... Faust. Now Faust controls the Spirit of Vengeance Dark Angel they'll be going after the mojo of the title belt. Adam is going to be hard pressed to keep his belt for long The Cornells Eddy lost the title when Tommy wasn't there to bail him out. He's angry that Tommy gets all the glory instead of him. Tommy is angry that Ed let the top family name in wrestling down. Will they stay together? Do they just need to work things out? Brexit war In the buildup to the Referendum Pitbull has been arguing for a sensible cutting of ties [he's pretty right wing]. Brickhouse Balder has been telling Pitbull that Europe don't want Britain anyway. He's roped in Merle O'Curle as support. He doesnt want Britain either. After a couple of weeks away Leigh Burton will return with a new mask as British Elemental to help Pitbull out. Mark Misery hates Wade Curmudgeonly Misery has been watching Wade Orson getting a push incredulously. Why? He wants to prove he's just as good as Wade is. Tag titles - Red Devils vs CSHS After losing at H2H Storm and Sifu are going to redouble their efforts - by going Ninja. The Devils might need to rope in some support. Rumour has it they have a friend from back in Moscow who's over 7 feet of muscle... Seb defends his UK title vs the Kingsmen Bedlam and War Machine redouble their attacks on Seb and up steps an unlikely helper - Flying Fox [Joe Simpson]. Simpson will end up 'accidentally' winning the belt in a fatal 4 way match. Background 21CW is broken because EVERYONE on the roster is on an expensive written deal. I've been desperately trying to get down to a manageable core of "my guys" on big deals with a rotating cast of devy guys and jobbers coming in. So a ton of talent has left. Daniel Black Francis, Buff, Jay-B, Kevin Jones, The Ivanoffs, Stoat, Nightmare, Danny Patterson, Harley Neill, DJ Reason... The top talent [Matravers, the Cornells, Wade, Faust] can carry me whilst I build up my future [Leigh, Wade, War Machine, Seb, etc. Even Brickhouse is a budding star] if I can mostly keep them apart and eke out enough good TV main events. Whilst I get the finances in order. Im having a blast. PS. I've got nothing for Philip Cooper or [face] Rollin' Johnny Stones to do. Any ideas?

<p>1. Rebuild the Cverse XL mod.</p><p> 2. HIW yo.</p><p> 3. Book Leigh Burton into the superstar he should be</p>

<p>Wooo!</p><p> </p><p> This is awesome news that I hadnt seen. Very excited for this to come out</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kitarzu" data-cite="Kitarzu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41339" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's a LoNdOn render from the 2010 thread. <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> You should ask him about the png file.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks dude. Much obliged</p>

Hi all Years ago someone posted a rerender of Dunton Hall. Anyone know who it was and if still active - do they have the image as a .png?

Its a company from my Cverse XL mod Cbot. Obviously in direct homage to your own work. Old skool mod guys all linking up eh?

OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooh! Love

I'm really struggling for something to do with Phil Cooper. I need another face in the UM and he's got the skills/pop/opportunity. I'm just really struggling for a fun character for him. He's so bland it hurts. Any ideas gang?

Thanks dude

Nice. That befits a man who has just been in a Supreme TV main event. Admittedly it was an 8-man match and only scored in the 70s but still. Headlined Supreme TV!

I have a request for anyone willing to have a crack: I'm gearing up for Paul Huntingdon to resurrect the greatest gimmick in SWF history: Wrestlebot 9000. My version will be a bit updated so Paul will be running the gimmick as the iBot. I've had a scout around but not been able to find what I want which is an Apple-style smooth, white robot on a Cverse background. Obviously it doesn't have to show Huntingdon at all. He'll be hidden. Anyone willing to have a crack would be a superstar Thanks

So Ekuma is pretty ace isnt he? http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Ekuma5_zps93edfc3f.jpghttp://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Ekuma_riot_zpsc3094f38.jpghttp://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Ekuma9_zps1aeaa716.jpghttp://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Ekuma6_zpse62fb45f.jpghttp://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Ekuma4_zps9470159b.jpghttp://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Ekuma2_zps48cb528f.jpg Anyone fancy putting him in a suit?

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Asaemon" data-cite="Asaemon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34905" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Buzz Reid</strong><p> </p><p> <span>http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee489/asaemon/TEW/TEW%20Alts/BuzzReid.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> love this</p>

Everest is purely acting as pop makeweight in jobber matches on my b show. Avalanches's real partner will be: http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/DesDavidsUSA_zpsa36fe83c.jpg Des Davids With Kolt [KC] Glenn and American Joe in the stable too.

Nothing to do with Avalanche? Me neither. Until he joined Dawn the cheerleader's USA-centric Supreme Academy as Lance Alvers: http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Avalanche_USA2_zps6ca38833.jpghttp://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o756/boltinho/Avalanche_USA_zps9fce6b19.jpg Yes. I stole the name.

Excellent news that this is ready sir. The old mod was the gold standard and I imagine this is even better especially with the regional pop you've built in. On the one hand Ive just started playing an SWF game - on the other hand Im about to go away for work for 4 weeks away from my family. Guess what I'll be doing to while away the time? Thanks for all the work

This is a fantastic idea. I've thought a few times of writing them out and never got around to it. LOVE this