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Yeah that's definitely it. Just want a more convenient system.

Mainly because I pre-book all the matches, then fill in angles later. So moving them is a complete slog. Pre-booking is fine. But the angles and rearranging segments are not.

Pre-booking, lots of it. I can have the major matches for the whole year and first 6 months of TV planned out in an hour. Then I just throw angles in. With 16 that was simple. 20 not so much.

But more migraines I'm sorry I had to

HAHAHHAHAHAHAH That got me good. Wholeheartedly agree Quest

Yeah this was a problem for me. To spend all this time working towards something and to get that as your reward is not rewarding lol. And not to mention it's barely legible and still gives me a headache. Less game more sheet basically.

Why do you feel the need to be so dismissive? I replied with a super dumb take to try and point out how flawed your viewpoint is but you don't look past it. It's getting annoying. Anyway I don't want this thread to become derailed with petty arguments and I know you have some books from the 1930's to read so I'm done with this.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rocland" data-cite="Rocland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It took me 45 minutes to book a show jumping from EWR to TEW. It took 20 minutes to book a show from TEW16 to TEW2020. So your example here is wrong and doesn't prove anything.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I like your snark, but I think you're missing the point here. Skummy made a blanket statement that he used to dismiss the criticism. I used that statement to prove his statement false. And with you bringing in new perspective actually proves my point of different experiences. So thank you for proving my point Roccy.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Skummy" data-cite="Skummy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>People saying that it taking longer to book a show is a problem - I've been seeing people say that about every single version of TEW since it was released. I know plenty of people who never gave up on EWR because they found their first experience of TEW 2016 was that it took them half an hour or more to book a show. Because they were <em>doing it for the first time</em>. So it's amusing to me now to see people pointing to TEW 2016 as an example of a streamlined, quick booking experience. It <em>is </em>that, because you've had years of experience of playing it, and TEW 2020 is a new game. <p> </p><p> I do get the impression that <em>some </em>people were expecting "TEW 2016 1.5", and aren't prepared to allow for the slight learning curve of a brand new game.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Otherwise - I don't think people speculating about what the "testing team" did or didn't do is helpful in any way.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Took me 10 minutes to book my first show on TEW16 jumping from EWR, 45 minutes to book my first show on TEW20 as opposed to 16. So your example here is wrong and doesn't prove anything.</p>

Please make sure to have the correct venues brother and add some more lesser venues, jack. There are amazing resources like Cagematch and wrestlingdata.net to give you all the help you need brother, jack dude. Much Love DZ

Mainly because I pre-book matches for most shows months in advance and then fill in the extra angles. So I have to spend eternity moving angles from place to place. Also the font is miniscule so I might miss out and typos and then have to redo the whole card again, because I can't save scum.

VCW: THE RISE OF KEITH Card: * Jay Silver w/ Allison Addison Vs. Jerry Pepper w/ Mya Catalan The announcers love Mya and it seems like Keith has a thing for the Eastern women, so Jerry goes over here. * Jules Night Vs. Wild Red Stallion Yeah, Stallion is big, and he wins. * Sgt. Bubba Lee West Vs. Texas Hangman Keith doesn't have the balls to tell either of them that they will lose. So Hangman takes liberties and shoots a win. * Tsuki Kawamata Vs. Candy Floss (Title Vs. Career Bout) Candy has scared Keith, Candy will leave and Keith keeps courting Tsuki. * Prime Time Dread Vs. The Winning Team PTD, Winning Team? More like losing team (gottteeeeem) * Keith Vegas will FINALLY make an Announcement! Keith Vegas is killed again.

I think Rem hit the nail on the head for why I don't like TEW20, it takes me 3/4 minutes to book a show on TEW16. TEW20 takes a long time and that's where my dissatisfaction comes in.

I wouldn't pay for TEW20, but I'd gladly pay for a remaster of TEW2004. The best game in the series imo.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt_Black" data-cite="Matt_Black" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49289" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>"Out of your way"? You can spot the differences within 30 seconds of taking a cursory glance at the rosters.<p> </p><p> "Let see, GSW has a bunch of rappers, makes sense given that their logo looks like a music album label, and IPW has... cultists, evil clowns, and a cowboy."</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Okay, but then again booking the shows are the exact same, because the product is the exact same. And that was the point. The shows are the same, just small changes because again you can't tell the difference, because of lack of product variance. The 2020 CV is very lackluster as opposed to say the CV18 mod, which is spectacular with so much creativity and thought put into it.</p>

But that has nothing to do with the products. You have to go out of your way to pick this up and that would require a vast knowledge of the characters. But the thing most people would do is look at the products. Products that are the exact same with different rosters. I think your post misses the plot a bit.

Are you using their billed birthplaces or their actual ones? Because Hawk was born in Minnesota and I'm pretty sure Animal is from Philly (Johnny Ace is from Philly and they are brothers.) If it's kayfabe then Warrior shouldn't be in Indiana/Illinois and Parts Unknown would be stacked.

Holy ragefire Batman! Either way, congratulations to Seth and Becky.

Yes clearly I'm a moron for having a different opinion. Literally booking the shows isn't fun for me in 2020. In 2016 it was fine, but something about inputting the shows and putting in segments feels like a drag in 20. I don't care about grades, I play mainly for a relaxing time. But 20 makes it feel like a chore. But I guess I'm wrong.

For $35 at this point I'm not buying. Seeing all the baffling changes made, the awful UI, the terrible way a lot of features were implemented the way the AI is both better but not great, products etc. I can go on, but the main problem is it's a chore to book a show. The main reason to play TEW and I can't do it. I could probably overlook a lot if the booking wasn't as bad as it is now. And in a world when indie games come out for less than TEW and have amazing depth and provide a great experience, I can't justify the price right now.

These Scythe renders are great. I have to find use for them.

The thing is "caps" and "penalties" are illogical and sacrifice realism for gameplay mechanics. There's a lot of nuance that results in match grades, not just length. Psychology and abilities in the ring and the differing spots can make a 30 minute hardcore match work, especially for an audience that want that style of wrestling. Generally hardcore matches can have a lack of psychology, but hardcore fans typically don't want psychology, they want violence. The longer the violence the more they are pleased. And hardocore matches with psychology can be considered all time classics. Hell, Omega/Mox went nearly an hour and people loved that. It seems like nuance is replaced with gamey-ness. And it's very uninspired and disappointing imo.

Bradley Blaze © vs Cheetah Boy (Mid Atlantic Championship) Blaze's reign just started. Jaylon Martin © vs Copperhead (Mid Atlantic American) Never saw anything in Copperhead, Jaylon I don't know anything about since I haven't touched the 2020 CV, but he's probably better than Copperhead. Joey Fili vs Davis Wayne Newton DWN is a new signing and you're low on main event heels. Josh Jacobs vs Miller Fforde Miller needs this win to maintain legitimacy. The Heartbreak Express vs The Scheme (#1 Contender's for Tag Team Championship) I'm a mark for the HBE The Latino Kings vs The Wolf Pack Building up new challengers for DeMarcus and Gray Tyrone Gray vs The Historian Probably a DQ win here, starts a fued. Great first show, also damn you Pablo for robbing me of my perfect score. DAMN YOU.

Something working as intended does not mean it's working correctly though. Attendances for television were working as intended at first too, didn't make it correct. The option to turn it off is just what my initial complaint was though and having to go through hoops and ladders for it to work properly is what triggered my complaint in the first place.