gonzo Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=shamelessposer;225309]America doesn't even have socialized medicine. We're about as far right as a country can get while still having a sustainable economy.[/QUOTE] if you knew anything about socialism or any other political movement other than what the media feeds you. THEN you might understand what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Random Thoughts: The only reason most people keep guns (other than to collect or for sport) is as self defense. However, if people didn't have guns, they wouldn't be neccessary as self defense. (Seeing as an attacker wouldn't have one.) So, therefore, it's a messed up paradox. (I apologize if my theory is flawed, I'm tired and can't find loop holes at this moment) Also, the 2nd Amendment is semi-irrelevant now as some said because we aren't going to be attacked by the red coats anytime soon. Plus, it doesn't say "We all get guns" like those crazy NRA people seem to think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=mjdgoldeneye;225349]Random Thoughts: The only reason most people keep guns (other than to collect or for sport) is as self defense. However, if people didn't have guns, they wouldn't be neccessary as self defense. (Seeing as an attacker wouldn't have one.) So, therefore, it's a messed up paradox. (I apologize if my theory is flawed, I'm tired and can't find loop holes at this moment) Also, the 2nd Amendment is semi-irrelevant now as some said because we aren't going to be attacked by the red coats anytime soon. Plus, it doesn't say "We all get guns" like those crazy NRA people seem to think...[/QUOTE] your theory is flawed, if they outlawed guns, the only people with guns will be outlaws, also, the second amendment specifically says "to raise a militia blah blah, the right of the people to keep and bear arms" so yeah, I don't like guns too horribly much, but im not going to tell any law abiding citizen that they cant have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker666 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [quote=gonzo]your theory is flawed, if they outlawed guns, the only people with guns will be outlaws, also, the second amendment specifically says "to raise a militia blah blah, the right of the people to keep and bear arms" so yeah, I don't like guns too horribly much, but im not going to tell any law abiding citizen that they cant have one.[/quote] The police force would still have guns. Plus, quoting the constitution/amendments isn't really providing an answer to a problem because not every situation could be accounted for when they were written. A local law here says that I have to pay the baron/lord of the land three pigs and a chicken every month. Is that something I do? Nope, because a law written in 1376 (or whenever it was) is no longer of any relevance. Laws have to change with the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=jagilki;225168]Eh. I don't like arguing. Most people will look down on me for this. I'm a hunter have been for years. Never hunted for the "trophey" always hunt for the meat. I agree their should be some guns banned. I also agree that stricter gun laws in America won't necisarily cut down on these types of things from happening.[/QUOTE] In terms of hunting for meat, that I don't have a major drama with. It's the philosophy of shooting for game, a bit of fun, I don't see how that could be. Just my greeney look at things :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagilki Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=tristram;225397]In terms of hunting for meat, that I don't have a major drama with. It's the philosophy of shooting for game, a bit of fun, I don't see how that could be. Just my greeney look at things :-)[/QUOTE] Yeah, and I understand that point of view. I've never been a trophy hunter. I hunt solely because I prefer to eat wild game as opposed to Beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Jobs To Me Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Those ****ty poems scream warning signs. This kid should have been in a padded room a long time before this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 One of the things I don't get is why did he go after "rich kids", wasn't he studying himself? I mean, really, the only reason you put yourself through tertiary education is to cash in on the other side in high jobs with room to move - that's the only reason I'm doing it at a late stage in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagilki Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't know much about the rich kids stuff. Not trying to read too much into thing, but from his plays, I just get the feeling he was a "what about me?" type of person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 The National Guard should then be sent to surround Raven's house... Jokes. Sorry. But it's Raven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP1 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I just read the kids play, and as someone with a masters in literature, I have to say.... Terrible. The content doesn't bother me, as I've read plenty of books that cover the topics included. It's the dialogue and characters. Somehow he makes the paedophile dad a rather sympathetic character at the beginning, which is just plain stupid. My favourite line is "come on, let's go up stairs and do it doggy-style, like you like it." I get the feeling he was probably jacking off whilst writing that. It's a sad indictment of the American education system if this kid was allowed to study literature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panix04 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Well done TCP, how terribly English of you, a huge tragedy and you still find the time to have a cheap pop at the Americans use of the English language! :D i kinda like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP1 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=panix04;225440]Well done TCP, how terribly English of you, a huge tragedy and you still find the time to have a cheap pop at the Americans use of the English language! :D i kinda like that![/QUOTE] I'm just a snob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge_JBR Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 [QUOTE=TCP1;225484]I'm just a snob![/QUOTE] But you're correct. Those plays ****ing suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCP1 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 [QUOTE=Jorge_JBR;225693]But you're correct. Those plays ****ing suck.[/QUOTE] Did you find that you were kind of on the side of McBeef, even though he was a paedo? That's some pretty horrendous writing, being able to make you main charater less likeable than a kiddy-fiddler! It was just a childish rant that just allowed him to write insulting comments in horrible colloquial language. F- for that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raveneffect21 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 [QUOTE=TCP1;225746]Did you find that you were kind of on the side of McBeef, even though he was a paedo? That's some pretty horrendous writing, being able to make you main charater less likeable than a kiddy-fiddler! It was just a childish rant that just allowed him to write insulting comments in horrible colloquial language. F- for that one![/QUOTE] Mr Brownstine was pretty horrible to, the song is damn good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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