WWE confirm/spoil jericho return!

[rage]

well, i guess this confirms what we already knew, new wwe magazine cover story shows Jericho on the cover with the tag line “Chris Jericho: The real story behind Y2J’s shocking return”. On the cover photo Jericho is shown plugging in two power cables. . take a peek and discuss! [url]http://www.sescoops.com/wwe/WWE_Leaks_Huge_Spoiler_Before_It_Happens.shtml[/url]

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=rage;316699]well, i guess this confirms what we already knew, new wwe magazine cover story shows Jericho on the cover with the tag line “Chris Jericho: The real story behind Y2J’s shocking return”. On the cover photo Jericho is shown plugging in two power cables. . take a peek and discuss! [url]http://www.sescoops.com/wwe/WWE_Leaks_Huge_Spoiler_Before_It_Happens.shtml[/url][/QUOTE] In a way they confirmed it last night... I'm sure will re-confirm it tonight.. "BREAK DOWN THE WALLS" was flashed at us more then a few times in the promo last night.. And King bassically told us it's next monday.

[flamebrain]

I just wish WWE hadn't tainted it all by dragging it out and then basically commercialising it with the shirts and then wrecking it with the mag and King's apparent knowledge of the goings on. That could have all come in the wake of his return so they could keep the illegit feel to it all and make his return a nice event (it still will be and I guess they want to flagpost it to spike ratings but I still hate it anyway!). Now he's just another WWE star who is coming back after some time away rather than some outside rebel challenging what WWE has become in his eyes. :(

[Guest Ransik]

What I think is funny is the fit Stephanie McMahon was throwing on how "the internet spoiled his return" even though they gave it away in their own videos. But the most hilarious part... Steph runs the ad and commercial department... which I'm pretty sure is the magazine department as well... I bet she still blames the net for spoiling it even though the company was stupid enough to send their magazine out a week early.

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=flamebrain;317349]I just wish WWE hadn't tainted it all by dragging it out and then basically commercialising it with the shirts and then wrecking it with the mag and King's apparent knowledge of the goings on. That could have all come in the wake of his return so they could keep the illegit feel to it all and make his return a nice event (it still will be and I guess they want to flagpost it to spike ratings but I still hate it anyway!). Now he's just another WWE star who is coming back after some time away rather than some outside rebel challenging what WWE has become in his eyes. :([/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Ransik;317399]What I think is funny is the fit Stephanie McMahon was throwing on how "the internet spoiled his return" even though they gave it away in their own videos. But the most hilarious part... Steph runs the ad and commercial department... which I'm pretty sure is the magazine department as well... I bet she still blames the net for spoiling it even though the company was stupid enough to send their magazine out a week early.[/QUOTE] Seriously doubt that it's really spoiled though. Yes, everyone on the internet or that is a HUGE wrestling fan probably realise's it by now... The regular watcher that doesn't buy the magazine, nor get online to "See the latest spoiler's" are still in the dark I'm betting. His appearance can still be somewhat like it was the last time, interrupting several people (Hopefully Triple H and friends) and telling US that HE is HERE to actually bring ENTERTAINMENT as well as WRESTLING PERFECTION. NO Longer will we have to sit through THESE Boring people, as you start to change "Go Jericho Go!" (that crowd chants with him), and this special moment brings excitement to all that watch's it... Then of course, on the internet we will here how wacked, and "Overdone" it was. Someone will say "That's so 10 years ago" and similar. All wrestling insider stuff will say how Jericho wasn't happy about the way he was brought back (although we all know, it's 99% him that's doing it this way). How "Un-creative it was, to use the *same* gimmick he already did" although the "Matrix" promo's already showed us that it's the same gimmick, but updated, etc. That's my prediction anyways. It's going to be great all over the world, except to the "inside people that know everything".

[sebsplex]

It's probably better that they spoiled it, maybe even deliberate. I wouldn't bother watching RAW next week otherwise and for fans that do still watch RAW regularly, then it's a big bonus. Besides a good portion of the crowd will probably start chanting for Jericho as soon as RAW gets a few minutes in anyway.

[PeterHilton]

Ransik has a point: Steph is kind of an idiot and the fact that she's complaining about net fans "spoiling it" shows that she doens't really understand what a viral campaign is. The entire purpose of the campaign was to get people on-line to talk about the videos, decipher the clues, etc. If those are the people you ae aiming for, then you can't turn around and complain when your magazine drops a week early and Jericho is on the cover. And chris, while it might not be "spoiled" you can't dismiss that a large portion of the audience won't be suprised because it's [I]just [/I]the people on the internet. It's 2007. The net is a major aspect of every form of entertainment. Even so-called "marks" visit wrestling news sites. There's just more access to it. I don't think it ruins anything, but a big chunk of the viewers next Monday will know ahead of time that the returning wrestler is Jericho.

[Guest Ransik]

Not only that, but Y2J chants have been going on since the first video aired. My buddy asked me after the second or third video what it was about and I just told him what the video said that I saw on Youtube. I'll tune into RAW for once this week to see Jericho and hope they don't ruin it.

[Moe Hunter]

[QUOTE=Ransik;317399]What I think is funny is the fit Stephanie McMahon was throwing on how "the internet spoiled his return" even though they gave it away in their own videos. But the most hilarious part... Steph runs the ad and commercial department... which I'm pretty sure is the magazine department as well... I bet she still blames the net for spoiling it even though the company was stupid enough to send their magazine out a week early.[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure dirst sheets are a reliable source for what the McMahons say and think. Here's the thing: none of us will likely ever meet them, but they sure do make some nice scapegoats! Anything that fans won't like gets attributed to Steph. Anything that's well received must have been Heyman or Dusty. Then a lot of it is just conjecture - the infamous "crackdown" about internet leaks a couple of years ago - to cover up a slow period in dirtsheet creativity. That thing about the Divas being removed from WWE.com - "We don't know why yet, it wasn't creative's fault, we'll keep you posted" = "We have no idea but people keep asking us, so we're stalling until we can make something up that fits with whatever the final outcome is".

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=Moe Hunter;317570]Yes, I'm sure dirst sheets are a reliable source for what the McMahons say and think. Here's the thing: none of us will likely ever meet them, but they sure do make some nice scapegoats! Anything that fans won't like gets attributed to Steph. Anything that's well received must have been Heyman or Dusty. Then a lot of it is just conjecture - the infamous "crackdown" about internet leaks a couple of years ago - to cover up a slow period in dirtsheet creativity. That thing about the Divas being removed from WWE.com - "We don't know why yet, it wasn't creative's fault, we'll keep you posted" = "We have no idea but people keep asking us, so we're stalling until we can make something up that fits with whatever the final outcome is".[/QUOTE] Do you have a sister named April?

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=PeterHilton;317488] And chris, while it might not be "spoiled" you can't dismiss that a large portion of the audience won't be suprised because it's [I]just [/I]the people on the internet. It's 2007. The net is a major aspect of every form of entertainment. Even so-called "marks" visit wrestling news sites. There's just more access to it. I don't think it ruins anything, but a big chunk of the viewers next Monday will know ahead of time that the returning wrestler is Jericho.[/QUOTE] The majority of people I know that have computer's use it for a couple different things. Email, playing online poker, playing online games (such as World of Warcraft or Everquest), Homework (School or Work/work), outside of that, it's a very few minority that I know personally that actually "browse" the internet for any type of news outside of their homepage. Example: Almost everyone at my job has a computer. One person plays EQ, and use's it for email, and that's about it. Won't even go to his guilds websight without alot of pleading. Another guy, he use's it for googling recipes, Email, and possibly (I believe) adult content, lol. Never reads any news outside of "About.com" that he heard about on the Kim Kommando show (spelling?). One of the younger guys, he only use's it for online poker, email, and he actually use's it to pay his bills. Never just browse's or looks up stuff (he claimes). The rest don't hardly use it at all, unless it's to copy/print, wive's use it for email, and possibly work related. Friends I Know around me: The same. That's not to say I believe that's the norm either. But I do think it's not "Unnormal". Meaning, I don't think half the population that watch's TV, is actually active like WE (Browse for information, spoiler's, see what's up with the latest games, movies, etc.) do. I mean, I don't know anyone on this forum, or any of the other one's I use, personally. That tells me something right there.... I can honestly say I'm about the most active person I know (personally) on the computer, including my own family, which had been into computer's way before I even decided to go buy one (I now have three, lol). I'm not saying most people are "ignorant" or anything like that. Heck, it's probably smart not to go browsing around with all the different infections you can give your computer these days. How many people do you know personally that are as active as you are on the computer? Is it like 90% or something, and I'm just stuck here in the dark age's? I'd be quite surprised if it was over 50% to be honest with you... unless you count people that you "Meet" online, then meet later or something. Even then... I doubt it would be 50%, even if it is the "Computer Age".

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=Ransik;317555]I'll tune into RAW for once this week to see Jericho and hope they don't ruinit.[/QUOTE] I'm absolutely positive it will be ruined for you, no matter what, as I foretold... [QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317436] Then of course, on the internet we will here how wacked, and "Overdone" it was. Someone will say "That's so 10 years ago" and similar. All wrestling insider stuff will say how Jericho wasn't happy about the way he was brought back (although we all know, it's 99% him that's doing it this way). How "Un-creative it was, to use the *same* gimmick he already did" although the "Matrix" promo's already showed us that it's the same gimmick, but updated, etc. That's my prediction anyways. It's going to be great all over the world, except to the "inside people that know everything".[/QUOTE]

[Astil]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317672]The majority of people I know that have computer's use it for a couple different things. Email, playing online poker, playing online games (such as World of Warcraft or Everquest), Homework (School or Work/work), outside of that, it's a very few minority that I know personally that actually "browse" the internet for any type of news outside of their homepage. Example: Almost everyone at my job has a computer. One person plays EQ, and use's it for email, and that's about it. Won't even go to his guilds websight without alot of pleading. Another guy, he use's it for googling recipes, Email, and possibly (I believe) adult content, lol. Never reads any news outside of "About.com" that he heard about on the Kim Kommando show (spelling?). One of the younger guys, he only use's it for online poker, email, and he actually use's it to pay his bills. Never just browse's or looks up stuff (he claimes). The rest don't hardly use it at all, unless it's to copy/print, wive's use it for email, and possibly work related. Friends I Know around me: The same. That's not to say I believe that's the norm either. But I do think it's not "Unnormal". Meaning, I don't think half the population that watch's TV, is actually active like WE (Browse for information, spoiler's, see what's up with the latest games, movies, etc.) do. I mean, I don't know anyone on this forum, or any of the other one's I use, personally. That tells me something right there.... I can honestly say I'm about the most active person I know (personally) on the computer, including my own family, which had been into computer's way before I even decided to go buy one (I now have three, lol). I'm not saying most people are "ignorant" or anything like that. Heck, it's probably smart not to go browsing around with all the different infections you can give your computer these days. How many people do you know personally that are as active as you are on the computer? Is it like 90% or something, and I'm just stuck here in the dark age's? I'd be quite surprised if it was over 50% to be honest with you... unless you count people that you "Meet" online, then meet later or something. Even then... I doubt it would be 50%, even if it is the "Computer Age".[/QUOTE] In my age group (19) with MySpace (ugh), Facebook, Forum sites (this lovely site, Gaiaonline, many more), and YouTube I'd say Im on the least amount, and thats when Im running a mafia game. On YouTube its all over that Jerichos returning, all it takes is one person who missed the promo and wanted to see it, then they post it in there blog, which is transfered onto facebook and myspace. Then everybody knows.

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=Astil;317695]In my age group (19) with MySpace (ugh), Facebook, Forum sites (this lovely site, Gaiaonline, many more), and YouTube I'd say Im on the least amount, and thats when Im running a mafia game. On YouTube its all over that Jerichos returning, all it takes is one person who missed the promo and wanted to see it, then they post it in there blog, which is transfered onto facebook and myspace. Then everybody knows.[/QUOTE] *bonks self over the head* I don't know how I completely forgot about myspace... Yeah, I'm thinking my age group, not 20's and younger. I stand corrected.

[Astil]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317701]*bonks self over the head* I don't know how I completely forgot about myspace... Yeah, I'm thinking my age group, not 20's and younger. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE] No problem. Personally I hate it, and blogging with it. Go out and play ball or something. *grabs controller for Svr07*

[Moe Hunter]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317660]Do you have a sister named April?[/QUOTE] Nope. Amber, Fern, Sarita, Davina and Wendy (formerly Lisa Marie)... of course only the first two are Hunters... was there anything in particular that made you ask at this time and place? (And yes, I'm aware of who April Hunter is, it just seemed way out of context :P)

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=Moe Hunter;317742]Nope. Amber, Fern, Sarita, Davina and Wendy (formerly Lisa Marie)... of course only the first two are Hunters... was there anything in particular that made you ask at this time and place? (And yes, I'm aware of who April Hunter is, it just seemed way out of context :P)[/QUOTE] Late at night (for me), I don't know.... I've belonged to a couple of forums that have had famous people in them, and I was unaware/didn't think it could possibly be the "same" person... Then later realise it was exactly who it seemed to be. Just wanted to make sure we didn't have April Hunter's brother or cousin and not acknowledge it... That and I think April is hot.... Also, thought it would be kind of funny if you weren't related (because it was out of context).

[PeterHilton]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317672]The majority of people I know that have computer's use it for a couple different things. Email, playing online poker, playing online games (such as World of Warcraft or Everquest), Homework (School or Work/work), outside of that, it's a very few minority that I know personally that actually "browse" the internet for any type of news outside of their homepage. Example: Almost everyone at my job has a computer. One person plays EQ, and use's it for email, and that's about it. Won't even go to his guilds websight without alot of pleading. Another guy, he use's it for googling recipes, Email, and possibly (I believe) adult content, lol. Never reads any news outside of "About.com" that he heard about on the Kim Kommando show (spelling?). One of the younger guys, he only use's it for online poker, email, and he actually use's it to pay his bills. Never just browse's or looks up stuff (he claimes). The rest don't hardly use it at all, unless it's to copy/print, wive's use it for email, and possibly work related. Friends I Know around me: The same. That's not to say I believe that's the norm either. But I do think it's not "Unnormal". Meaning, I don't think half the population that watch's TV, is actually active like WE (Browse for information, spoiler's, see what's up with the latest games, movies, etc.) do. I mean, I don't know anyone on this forum, or any of the other one's I use, personally. That tells me something right there.... I can honestly say I'm about the most active person I know (personally) on the computer, including my own family, which had been into computer's way before I even decided to go buy one (I now have three, lol). I'm not saying most people are "ignorant" or anything like that. Heck, it's probably smart not to go browsing around with all the different infections you can give your computer these days. How many people do you know personally that are as active as you are on the computer? Is it like 90% or something, and I'm just stuck here in the dark age's? I'd be quite surprised if it was over 50% to be honest with you... unless you count people that you "Meet" online, then meet later or something. Even then... I doubt it would be 50%, even if it is the "Computer Age".[/QUOTE] This entire post is ridiculous. It's like when you said everyone in the military agreed with Iraq because the two people you knew in the service did. Despite your anectdotal evidence, a significant amount of the population spends time on-line on a daily basis. And when you think about the people the WWE is targeting as their audience - males in their ealry 20s - the numbers are probably higher. To answer your question though, almost everyone I know goes on-line fo one reason or another on a daily basis. And those people will all browse around for news about all kinds of things.

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=PeterHilton;317824]This entire post is ridiculous. It's like when you said everyone in the military agreed with Iraq because the two people you knew in the service did. Despite your anectdotal evidence, a significant amount of the population spends time on-line on a daily basis. And when you think about the people the WWE is targeting as their audience - males in their ealry 20s - the numbers are probably higher. To answer your question though, almost everyone I know goes on-line fo one reason or another on a daily basis. And those people will all browse around for news about all kinds of things.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317701]*bonks self over the head* I don't know how I completely forgot about myspace... Yeah, I'm thinking my age group, not 20's and younger. I stand corrected.[/QUOTE] I've already bonked myself over the head, no need for you to start bonking me too...

[Moe Hunter]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317791]Late at night (for me), I don't know.... I've belonged to a couple of forums that have had famous people in them, and I was unaware/didn't think it could possibly be the "same" person... Then later realise it was exactly who it seemed to be. Just wanted to make sure we didn't have April Hunter's brother or cousin and not acknowledge it... That and I think April is hot.... Also, thought it would be kind of funny if you weren't related (because it was out of context).[/QUOTE] Fair enough. I think the only time I've come across somehting like that is that Maurice LaMarche visits his own IMDb board. She is indeed pretty hot though :P

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=Moe Hunter;317975]Fair enough. I think the only time I've come across somehting like that is that Maurice LaMarche visits his own IMDb board. She is indeed pretty hot though :P[/QUOTE] Couple forums where another hot one.... I can't think of her name, but she is the really curvy girl that dress's in leather and catsuits (or that's how I remember her). There were a couple of pics in here at one time of her as well. I remember one board she was on, talking completely openly about her sexual experience's and such, lol. There were a couple of other's as well, but that's the one that sticks out the most. She doesn't speak English as her first language (although she does type it pretty good, express's herself very well).

[shamelessposer]

[QUOTE=Moe Hunter;317975]Fair enough. I think the only time I've come across somehting like that is that Maurice LaMarche visits his own IMDb board.[/QUOTE] This is, as they say in France, flippin' awesome.

[panix04]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;317825] no need for you to start bonking me too...[/QUOTE] That means something completely different in England! :D

[Moe Hunter]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;318048]Couple forums where another hot one.... I can't think of her name, but she is the really curvy girl that dress's in leather and catsuits (or that's how I remember her). There were a couple of pics in here at one time of her as well. I remember one board she was on, talking completely openly about her sexual experience's and such, lol. There were a couple of other's as well, but that's the one that sticks out the most. She doesn't speak English as her first language (although she does type it pretty good, express's herself very well).[/QUOTE] Haha! Sounds groovy :P Speaking of Catsuits - Noel Harlow, anyone? Meow!