Monkeypox Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! I won't go so far as to say this ruined 08 for me. That would be stupid. But still... ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alden Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 yes but now there is psw.........forever hardcore :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeypox Posted June 2, 2008 Author Share Posted June 2, 2008 [B]Not. Good. Enough.[/B] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostrelms Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=Monkeypox;431322][B]Not. Good. Enough.[/B][/QUOTE] QFT. F PSW LONG LIVE DAVE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolinc Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 DaVE's death is for the greater good. Just look at TCW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alden Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I was able to start a dave stable *although most of the good guys are not avalible* i have brandon, acid and the mcwades with emma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2511 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 the death of DaVE saddens me greatly, I will probably convert the 07 data and play in 08 just to keep them alive myself. Im a DaVE faithful and with the 08 data im left to wonder...where do i go now? TCW seems to have the best talent available, but maybe just to keep the attitude alive ill form my own promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJoshRollins Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I always liked DaVE, but not when I was booking it. I just always wanted it to do well. I'm kind of happy it's gone though, so it didn't go bankrupt when I was playing, which usually made me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I was always a fan of DaVE since they resembled ECW in a lot of ways for me... However, It seemed logical to have the company fold. All in all, It's good to see Naess create a company of his own... A small, upstart hardcore fed... something I'm excited to see grow and possibly even book down the road after I grow tired of booking SWF in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bolton Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Look at the bright side, SWF has Jack Giedroyc and Big Cat Brandon, and TCW has Joey Minnesota, Adernaline Rush and Eddie Peak. But still, it feels a little empty without a DAVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Dozier Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I was shocked when I saw DaVE absent from the promotions :( but I picked the next best thing, PSW. And at the end of the demo, I've already lost $50,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriswok Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 This is all Mark Cubans fault :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I was shocked. I really was. DAVE was one of my favourites.. I don't care which guys TCW or SWF got, I [B]NEVER[/B] play those two. Altough I like the new Big Cat Brandon look. But still.. Damn. I truly hopy that the company which Mitch Naess runs (PSW) will do well, or even better. Or that Phil Vibert starts his own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2511 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 maaaaaaaaan, whats with all the mark cuban hate? what am i missing? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJoshRollins Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=Greg2511;431378]maaaaaaaaan, whats with all the mark cuban hate? what am i missing? lol[/QUOTE] I'm from Dallas. I love Mark Cuban. He made me care about basketball just a little bit. Plus HDNet and HDNet Fights are freakin' awesome! He's a cool guy. However, for some reason, sportscasters from every other city freakin' hate him. Especially that douche from Chi-Town. Oh, well, back to the subject. I don't really care for FREEDOM, but PSW is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeker Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=Greg2511;431378]maaaaaaaaan, whats with all the mark cuban hate? what am i missing? lol[/QUOTE] Go read Monkeypox's fantastic Mark Cuban controls DaVE dynasty and it will make a lot more sense. Reality... well... I won't sling mud at the guy. And come on GDS... group hug for Pox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hug a monkey people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Given all the DaVE love in this thread, it's amazing that no one actually picked up on the myriad of hints Adam has given over the years that [B][I]DaVE was destined to die[/I][/B]. Look at all the many ways DaVE mirrored ECW. One step up and two steps back (talent raided). Just when it seemed like things were turning around, something catastrophic happens. USPW's acquisition and far superior resources, combined with their growth, meant DaVE was fighting a battle it couldn't hope to win (defending itself against the likes of SWF, TCW, and NOTBPW while at the same time trying to keep an eye on USPW in th rearview). Perhaps out of the ashes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilian_WWW Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 While I played some nice games with them in '07, I like the continuing evolution of the Cornellverse. And, to be perfectly honest, the loss of UCR has hit me much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=Maximilian_WWW;431493]While I played some nice games with them in '07, I like the continuing evolution of the Cornellverse. And, to be perfectly honest, the loss of UCR has hit me much harder.[/QUOTE] WHOA! Someone who misses UCR! I'll admit that I was taken aback when I saw they had shut down. But what bothered me more was the reason (Louis Figo Manico just decided to shut the promotion down, presumably because he was burned out. WTH?!?) behind the closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximilian_WWW Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=Remianen;431498]WHOA! Someone who misses UCR! I'll admit that I was taken aback when I saw they had shut down. But what bothered me more was the reason (Louis Figo Manico just decided to shut the promotion down, presumably because he was burned out. WTH?!?) behind the closing.[/QUOTE] It is quite a pointless reason. Then again, it is Manico and a European scene without him being the driving force, can at least be an interesting starting point for a diary, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepy Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Out of interest, which former DAVE star do people think will do best off in their new promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregano Jensen Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 The unfortunate demise of DaVE, while foreshadowed in the text of the '07 edition, doesn't fit with the statistics presented in same. I can't recall a game of TEW07 I played in which DaVE folded -- or, indeed, a game in which it didn't gain popularity and money at a rapid rate. They began 2007 with $1.7 million; how did they spend $1.7 million in three months? Meanwhile, GCG and WEXXV -- two promotions which never survived the first year -- are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=Oregano Jensen;431562]The unfortunate demise of DaVE, while foreshadowed in the text of the '07 edition, doesn't fit with the statistics presented in same. I can't recall a game of TEW07 I played in which DaVE folded -- or, indeed, a game in which it didn't gain popularity and money at a rapid rate. They began 2007 with $1.7 million; how did they spend $1.7 million in three months? Meanwhile, GCG and WEXXV -- two promotions which never survived the first year -- are back.[/QUOTE] ? Obviously there's a degree of creative license involved, it'd be stupid to have set DAVE up with a "realistic" huge debt and basically sentenced them to die within the first few months of any TEW07 game just to set up part of the storyline for TEW08. You seem to be looking at it backwards and thinking the game revolves around the database, when it's the database that revolves around the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antithesis Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 [QUOTE=sheepy;431527]Out of interest, which former DAVE star do people think will do best off in their new promotion?[/QUOTE] Looks like the ones in TCW either made the biggest splash or are positioned to do so. I don't think its an accident that Eddie and the New Wave are classified as being Faces now that the Heel Syndicate group is running the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I'd have to say Brandon James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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