Hive Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I read somewhere that B shows doesn't affect popularity at all, and that it doesn't matter what grade you get on them. But does it matter whether I go in accordance with the expected % of match/storyline ratio? For B shows, I'd much rather just go with full matches and no angles - but of course not if I'm punished for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznblusuazn Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Just to be save, I usually run 'Video' angles to hype my main event feuds to make up the % for angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 If you don't meet the required angles your overall show rating will be lower just like if you do that with your A show. So if you really dont care about your B show overall ratings just book all matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 So it only affects the B shows overall rating? Ok, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yep, it only effects the B Show rating. Though I still use my angle time, as its the perfect chance to also work on those guys microphone skills. Which is good, because PGHW just pulled an awesome and released Bryan Holmes, who I immediately signed to SWF. He's already amazing, but imagine what he can accomplish if he learns to work the microphone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Good point, I should create angles with midcarders to improve their skills. Another question: does dark matches count toward the overall rating of the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob4590 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [QUOTE=Hive;465048]Good point, I should create angles with midcarders to improve their skills. Another question: does dark matches count toward the overall rating of the show?[/QUOTE] No dark matches don't affect any shows rating - neither A or B shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritwik Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote]Another question: does dark matches count toward the overall rating of the show?[/quote] But dark matches can change the crowd's mood - so if you have 3 crappy dark matches then you can expect the crowd mood to be less than average mood when your show begins which can bring down the rating of your first segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Thanks for the responses, I feel a bit wiser now. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Plus dark matches do effect in a lesser way the Angle/Match ratio and the AI wil not warn you for it. Only reason too keep the overall B show rating up is to have iot get higher ratings wich results in higher income (and maybe a bit faster overness increase) So no it doesn´t really matter. B shows are your training grounds essentially with the advantages of overness gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I haven't seen my dark matches hurt my opening segment TOO much, not enough to really effect it one way or another but thats just me. As far as B shows your not "punished" as in you lose importance, popularity or prestige. It just brings your overall rating down which might result in lower attendence for that show, which of course coudl result in lower revenue. It might also bring the workers moods down I'm not sure on that one. I'm not sure if putting on badly rated shows will effect their moods at all or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 wont effect moods wil effect tv ratings and attendence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I add on to this... I have a question. Will I get punished for not having my Main-Eventers and some of my upper mid carders on my B show? Besides an occasionally appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeMan Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 No, there are no penalties, unless of course You job those stars to guys with lower popularity - that will hurt them big time. I wouldn't advise You to use ME's and UM's on B shows - use them on Your A shows, leave B shows to the undercard guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Basicly a B show is there to increase the skills and worker popularity of your less important workers. As your main show will be full of uppermind to main event. Always get one if possible! It might be a pain to book even more but in the end it will be a real benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm running SWF at the moment in a new game, and I'm having a real debate as to whether I want to try land a second A show or a B show in February. Any advice, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I say B show first as having enough over enough talent for 2 tv shows at the start and keeping national at least is dam hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 [QUOTE=Hyde Hill;479889]I say B show first as having enough over enough talent for 2 tv shows at the start and keeping national at least is dam hard.[/QUOTE] That was my thought process. So if the only real goal of the B show is developing wrestlers and building overness, I'm guessing network size matters less? I'm thinking a network that broadcasts in both US and Canada, is patient, and accepts risks is the best bet...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Don't forget you can only get a B show on a network that currently shows your A show. Nobody wants your dregs and butt-ends if they can't have the beer and nicotine :p But yeah, for a B show, the size of the network and the coverage don't really matter at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 [QUOTE=D-Lyrium;479896]Don't forget you can only get an B show on a network that currently shows your A show. Nobody wants your dregs and butt-ends if they can't have the beer and nicotine :p[/QUOTE] Damn, I did forget that. Ah well, guess I don't really have to worry so much about what to look for in a network, then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 [QUOTE]But yeah, for a B show, the size of the network and the coverage don't really matter at all.[/QUOTE] Matters less I would think as you can still make money off of them and the more people that watch the show the more the workers overness has the potential to increase? Or am I wrong here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 You're perfectly correct. I forgot how many networks there were that broadcast to more areas despite being smaller, so I failed to mention it because I thought it was a moot point. It turns out I was wrong, as GNN are smaller than several American networks, but broadcast to Canada and Northern Mexico too, where many don't. So... yeah, if you're TCW go for GNN :p If you're SWF... try GNN, but they're a sports-centric network, and I don't know how harsh the AI is on product types. If you're SWF, you're about as realistic as a comic book, and I don't know how strict the network AI is on that type of thing. The theory is that sporty channels should only go for more realistic products, and culty channels should only go for culty products (which is why SWF, the larger promotion, has a slightly smaller broadcast area than TCW. There aren't any mainstream networks that cover Canada as well as the US (by design). Note, though, that they're on the bigger network, so in theory, all other things being equal (which they won't be!) more Americans will tune in to SWF Supreme TV than TCW Total Wrestling, because more Americans will be able to receive the station. But obviously no Canadians can do so, so TCW has them all to themselves). I'm not sure to what extent it works though. I know that CGC were too mainstream for IC-TV. Pfft, the underground. ¬_¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 So its only possible to start a B show on a network already carrying a program of your promotion. What about getting an A show on a network and switching it to a B show? Would the network block this, especially if you try it right away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 [QUOTE]What about getting an A show on a network and switching it to a B show? Would the network block this, especially if you try it right away?[/QUOTE] Depends on the network, economy etc I think but I would assume they would block it as you don't have an A show there to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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