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Yeah, its pretty sickening how they've treated Vickie since she told them she was leaving. Meanwhile, found this on SEScoops.com:

 

Earlier this week, Dave Meltzer reported that there was a rumor floating around backstage at RAW that Rey Mysterio had given his notice to quit World Wrestling Entertainment.

 

Adding fuel to the fire was the fact that Mysterio dropped the WWE Intercontinental title to Chris Jericho at Sunday's Extreme Rules Pay-Per-View and was not present at Tuesday's WWE SmackDown tapings.

 

To update the situation, PWInsider is now reporting that a nagging knee injury is what led Mysterio to miss Tuesday's tapings. He informed WWE last week that he wanted to rest up his knee this week, so talk of him leaving the company appears to be unfounded.

 

Mysterio's program with Chris Jericho is getting rave reviews from WWE management and it's expected to continue when he returns.

 

Meanwhile, great work with the update guys, I've never really played a real world update but I'm really enjoying this.

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That Rey Mysterio news was only a rumour, and wasn't true. On lordsofpain.net, and various other sites, it's reported he's not leaving at all. You never know these days though!

 

I was just wonderig, how different is this mod to the Know Your Role data? I'm trying to figure out which I should use. I'm thinking long-term usage.

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I was just wonderig, how different is this mod to the Know Your Role data? I'm trying to figure out which I should use. I'm thinking long-term usage.

 

We made this with C-Verse very much in mind, meaning we tried to capture the difficulty of C-Verse especially. For people used to the majority of mods around you will probably take sometime getting used to the stats. You won't see as many B's and A's for grades. That is not taking anything away from KYR, it's a great mod made by a great contributor to these boards :) Best thing is to try it and post some feedback, we'd like to know how it goes if you decide to run a game.

 

Why no love for NJPW's Karl Anderson. An enhancment talent? i'd say he's a solid lower midcarder maybe even midcarder.

 

It'll be updated for next release, we can't get every roster perfect first time round. Any fixes like this no matter how small please post guys. We want this mod to be as close to perfect as possible.

 

Thank you everyone else who has posted feedback, we read and take into account everything.

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Both Shawn Spears and Elijah Burke are only rumoured to have signed a contract with TNA, Spears is very unlikly as he made his debut for ROH not too long ago. Tazz can almost definitly be added. For the 90 days sake give him and no compete clause injury lolz.

 

Booker T's, Lashleys, Nash's, Morgan's and to a lesser extent Cute Kip´s and Team 3d's brawling skills- Brother Ray's, Elijah Burke's entertainment skills- Alex Shelly and Burke's overall stats should be higher imho. In general while I agree with making it more balanced /less realistic I think you have overdone the lowering of the rumble skills mainly and general skills in some cases.

 

Foley is at least a Semi Active wrestler. Nash is active. Hemme is an ocassional active wrestler. Hernandez will recover quicker then expected 1/2 months. BG James is Semi Active. Both Raven and Richards could be semi active. Savio Vega is retired. Jonny Devine is not on Hiatus he is with Border City.

 

I would improve the companies popularity and the workers pop overall making them closer to National and get the same ratings after resizing the networks. This far off from National they will eventually loose all their talent too the E.

 

I would set event to 80 percent match ratio and put daredevil on medium. Set pure and realism to very low and up lucha to very low.

 

For Canada maybe ad Scott D'Amore's Border City Wrestling I know ATT by bobinc himself has the promotion in it as well as a lot of others. OVW would also be a good ad as it employs a lot of former E performers and younger talent and if not mistaken has a regional tv show.

 

Also for better cornellverse comparity remove overlapping tv deals/ ppv deals. Just choose the biggest one they can maintain and keep that. FOX8 altough probably big in Australia has to be set in comparison to the wrestling world, coverage for possibel wrestling fans so be set smaller. I am not sure but NWE has also lost their Canadian slot if I am not mistaken maybe a canuck can confirm this. Comapnies with tv need to be at least regional of course. Either remove the tv or make them bigger and viable at that size or else they always loose lots of income and prestige early into the game.

 

Tha's just my two (or three or four) cents on TNA for the rest KUTGW. If you need another TNA tester/ Tester in general I would be happy to oblige.

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Fred Sampson (East Coast Worker) has had a WWE contract since late april. I didnt see him in delvopment.

 

Maybe add AAW promotion out in the chicago area. They now have a working deal with DGUSA, and the brother promotion to Shimmer as it is where DP works outside of ROH and the Shimmer roster shows up on some of their shows.

 

If you need any help ask cuz i need to take a break from my data set.

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Of ECCW's roster, the following people are the only ones I'm aware of having traveled into the US to work (the rest only work in Canada to the best of my knowledge):

 

Memphis (Rains)

Ice

(Cole) Bishop

Veronika Vice

Scotty Mac

El Phantasmo

Ladies Choice

"Rocket" Randy Tyler

Dropkick Murphy

"Mean Streak" Mike Dempsey

"Bomber" Nelson Creed

Abbadon

"Mad Dog" Marty Sugar

Nicole Matthews

Mike Sweetser (actually lives in Washington)

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Will you be adding IWS in the near future?

 

We're currently working on Canada so we probably will.

 

Thanks Vlad, great feedback and the stuff we're looking for.

 

Guys please if you're posting suggestions take the time to read the whole thread, it isn't long and nearly every question or issue raised has been addressed already.

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We're currently working on Canada so we probably will.

 

Thanks Vlad, great feedback and the stuff we're looking for.

 

Guys please if you're posting suggestions take the time to read the whole thread, it isn't long and nearly every question or issue raised has been addressed already.

 

Not a problem! A bit more:

 

Mike Sweetser, in addition to being a good referee, should also have Personality set to at least sometimes (He's ECCW's "NWA Representative" and DOA Pro Wrestling's current "Commissioner").

 

"Gorgeous" Michelle Starr, while not currently listed anywhere on ECCW's website should be on their roster as a semi-active wrestler working as a road agent or perhaps as their booker. He runs the Supergirls promotion, but they don't run regularly enough to really be added as their own separate promotion and would function best as they're actually used in real life, as ECCW's women's division. He also works in the US, gimmick is flamboyant to say the least.

 

Memphis Raines (bolded because I misspelled it earlier) and MR2 are brothers.

 

Dave Republic, ECCW's owner, should be Open to promotion pacts (he's worked with three other promotions I can think of, including co-promoting a couple of events with a AWA promotion).

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Quick update for what we've done for V1.3....

 

 

 

 

ADDED Border City Wrestling (BCW)

 

ADDED WORKERS

Brad "Freakin" Martin

Bubba Mackenzie

Christian Able

Conrad Kennedy III

Gutter

Hailey Rogers

Jake O'Reilly

"Judo" Jason Temple

John E. Bravo

Josh Movado

Kennith Crises

Kobra Kai

Phil Atlas

PJ Tyler

Xtremo

 

ADDED CONTRACTS

A-1

Cody Deaner

Derek Wylde

El Tornado

Jade Chung

Jamie D

Jennifer Blake

Jim Duggan

Joe Doering

Johnny Devine

Josh Abercrombie (Changed name to Josh Raymond)

Kiyoshi

Robbie McCallister

Rory McAllister

Scott D'Amore (Owner & Booker)

Tony Jones (Tony Smallz)

Tyson Dux

Zach Gowen

 

ADDED TITLES

BCW Can-Am Heavyweight (Lineage Complete)

BCW Can-Am Tag Team (Lineage not complete)

BCW Can-Am Television (Lineage not complete)

 

 

ADDED Extreme Canadian Championship Wrestling (ECCW)

 

ADDED WORKERS

Artemis Spencer

Azeem Mohammed

Billy Suede

Dropkick Murphy

El Phantasmo

Kenny Lush

Kyle O'Reilly

Nelson Creed

Sid Sylum

The Divine Prophet

 

ADDED CONTRACTS

Bishop

Cremator

Dave Republic

Ice

Ladies Choice

Memphis

Mike Dempsey

Moondog Manson

Randy Tyler

Scotty Mac

Veronika Vice

 

Once we've finished ECCW depending on the timing we'll add one more promotion for release date.

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Hey, I was looking around the H-Verse database and came across Bao Nguyen. He used to wrestle mostly in the NorCal/Northwest area as Bonsai Bruce/Bonsai Bruce Bukkakie (I know I misspelled that, it's a form of Japanese porn when spelled right unless I'm mistaken). He was initially trained at Supreme Pro Wrestling in NorCal under "Big Ugly" JD Bishop and wrestled for them and Portland Wrestling, among others. He became "Bao Nguyen" while training with Harley Race. He used to use the "Swallowtail Shooting Star Press" (like a standing SSP, but done running) as his finisher. His MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/vietnamphenom23
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Hey I just got back from underway and I was wondering if in the new version the ladies have finally gotten there due? I know I brought this up a little while ago (I was in a liberty port in Mayport FL. for two days), and I remember you saying that it was going to be addressed, I was just wondering if this will be in the 1.3 update. Thanks again for an awesome real world mod.
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Just a few things I noticed.

 

ROH

 

The events are kind of weird. I changed them myself to make them more realistic, so it's not too big of a deal. One thing that stood out to me is the "Weekly House Show" event. Also, ROH is no longer running PPVs for the time being and their deals have ended with their PPV carriers.

 

SHIMMER

 

All of the tag teams are good, but Ashley Lane and Nevaeh are missing.

 

Becky Bayless, Krissy Vaine, Josie, Rebecca Knox, and Alicia no longer work for them.

 

Sarah Stock and Veronika Vice are inactive and have a better chance of returning than the girls mentioned above, so I'd keep them on the roster for now.

 

Cat Power, Cherry Bomb, Kellie Skater, Kimberly Kash, Miss Natural, Rayna Von Tash, Sassy Stephie, and Tenille Tayla need to be added. Information on all of them can be found by clicking their names. All of their Myspace pages can also be found in Shimmer's top friends

 

http://www.myspace.com/shimmerwomen

 

CHIKARA

 

Green Ant needs to be added to the database and The Colony. Might need to add Carpenter Ant, too, once there is more information on him.

 

p.s. I vote Dragon Gate to be added next and I agree that AAW would be a good addition.

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It would be cool if Da Soul Touchaz were added.

 

Acid Jaz, Marshe Rockett, Trauma and Willie Richardson. C-Red is their manager, he's already in the game.

 

Here are a bunch of links for more info on them.

 

http://chikarafans.com/?page_id=3420

http://www.myspace.com/mrm80

http://chikarafans.com/?page_id=3428

http://www.myspace.com/jaz_the_archangel

http://www.myspace.com/soul_touchaz

http://www.myspace.com/datraumatic1

http://www.myspace.com/urbandream

http://chikarafans.com/?page_id=2637

 

Kota Ibushi as well. Maybe even the entire DDT promotion(eventually).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibushi_Kota

http://dramaticfantasia.tripod.com/ibushi.html

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I looked at the rumble stats again and I must say you overdid the scaling down of the skill across the board imho. Why I agree that in general the skills should not be too high too keep it balanced in the C Verse itself the rumble skill is one of the easier ones to have at least a c- in but it is the hardest to get really good at B or higher. ATM you got too many good rumblers in the D range.

 

Also try to keep it small I know there will lots of ad this, ad that requests but would be better to go wide instead of an over exhaustive American focused available workers and promotions as this can seriously hamper playability. For instance due to a lot of workers getting 3 contracts or starting of with 3 or more contracts.

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Thanks Hyde, we appreciate your feedback but little changes will be made to stats at this stage. All were considered and given for a reason, we're reviewing a few stats (3 in total) overall atm and brawling is one of them but it'll be at the soonest changed for V1.4.

 

The feedback we're looking for isn't regarding grading. Granted if you notice a Bryan Danielson with E- in chain please report it but if it's only a grade or two we'd be forever editing and updating if we changed the data for everyone who thinks a stat is wrong.

 

If anyone has a stat which is too low for you the editor is easy to use. ;)

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On the subject of stats the one that always stands out to me is The Undertaker's psychology... anything less than an A* is just wrong as the guy can walk anyone through a great match and make everything flow well. He always knew how to take someone like Kurt Angle and make his matches even better, he carried the Festus character to a fantastic match and there are so many things with Taker's psychology that go un-noticed that I always feel people don't appreciate him. He may not be the most exciting worker in the world, but that's another stat completely.

 

Otherwise, I'm in general agreement with the stats. They are pretty harsh (maybe even harsher than I'd rate them) but I'd rather they were a little low than too high. :)

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On the subject of stats the one that always stands out to me is The Undertaker's psychology... anything less than an A* is just wrong as the guy can walk anyone through a great match and make everything flow well. He always knew how to take someone like Kurt Angle and make his matches even better, he carried the Festus character to a fantastic match and there are so many things with Taker's psychology that go un-noticed that I always feel people don't appreciate him. He may not be the most exciting worker in the world, but that's another stat completely.

 

Otherwise, I'm in general agreement with the stats. They are pretty harsh (maybe even harsher than I'd rate them) but I'd rather they were a little low than too high. :)

 

One thing that really sticks out in my mind was the epic cage match against mick Foley. In Foley's first book, he explains that after they crashed through the cage top, Foley basically describes having a pretty severe concussion and was completely checked out of the fight. Undertaker, however, was able to keep the match going all by himself (using the "Walk the Ropes" and then having Foley "dislodge him" and thus racking himself.)

 

I have never seen an Undertaker match post- 1995 that "lacked flow" :D

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Not to have a go at you Derek B but what you just said there is likely to make any low-stat mod makers brain explode.

 

True, it goes against what I say most of the time. But when it comes to the Undertaker I think people miss that he probably has the best psychology of any worker. His ring skills may have faded through age and injury, and he's never been the flashiest of workers... but when it comes to putting a match together there isn't anyone better. I'm not looking to inflate stats (obviously), jus to give credit where it's due. :)

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Only just checked out this mod and I have to give it a thumbs up. I mean, I have my own personally subjective stat-quibbles (Cena's psychology, Punk's safety, Morrison only having A Sex Appeal ;) ) but it all looks really good, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it handles.
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