The_CoC Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Either way Dunn needs to GTFO of the company since he is <strong>clearly</strong> messing it up and going into Vinces ear.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wouldn't be so sure to say its clearly Dunn or Vince, Roman could very well be a Triple H project.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruleall15 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The_CoC" data-cite="The_CoC" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wouldn't be so sure to say its clearly Dunn or Vince, Roman could very well be a Triple H project.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Im not blaming Dunn for Reigns. Not fully. But I sure as hell will blame Dunn for the crapfest that has been WWE for the good portion of a few years now. But I dont think Reigns is a full HHH project. More so Vince</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_CoC Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Im not blaming Dunn for Reigns. Not funny. But I sure as hell will blame Dunn for the crapfest that has been WWE for the good portion of a few years now.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I unlike 90% of the internet have no idea who is pulling the strings behind the scenes, I will say I don't like the camera cuts every few seconds.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurphy1014 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <p>All I know about Kevin Dunn is that he was the one and only person in the business that Percy Pringle worked with that he hated. Legitimately hated. The man got along with literally everyone he had ever worked with except Kevin Dunn. That speaks volumes. </p><p> </p><p> I'd like to think that if HHH was in charge he'd be smart enough to realize Reigns needs to turn heel for a while. I still think it's possible he does. </p><p> </p><p> Best scenario for that is he loses to HHH at WM. And the next night Ambrose goads HHH into a rematch from Roadblock and gets the win. Reigns comes out to celebrate and then lays him out. Ambrose gets the belt, Reigns can become the silent destroyer he seems great at. I mean, that's what I'd do.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Aslong as she doesnt try to steal again she should be fine.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But... she's Australian. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> (just kidding)</p><p> </p><p> A good thing indeed, but like others mention she's probably better off in NXT, where she is loved. The other gimmick worked and was 'fun', but gimmicks like that will ruin your chances of ever becoming a top level worker, especially with all the female talent currently flowing out of NXT.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 He's miscast but I even think he's a great promo. I've got no qualms about his delivery, he comes across as convincing even with shoddy material. It must be very difficult to do your job under his circumstances. I do often wonder where he would be now if he had the same consistent support that guys like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan got when they were ascended up the card. Agree to Disagree. He is god awful at longer promos, maybe one of the worst top of the card guys I've ever seen. You'll notice they have seemingly figured this out at least, after two years of crowds turning on him. He hasn't given a longer promo in 2 months or so, and suprise suprise, the silent badass babyface is starting to get over a bit. They have been smart recently, keep his promo's short and to the point, let him go out there and be a silent dominating type gimmick. Work's much better than "tater tot" Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 So went to smackdown last night. below in white are my impressions since they are spoilers till the show airs. We started off with a Dark match between Sandow and Fandango. Nothing much to report, Sandow got the win. Main Event taping starts, Garden about 70% full at this point. We are sitting in nosebleeds, but every seat in the garden is pretty good, being that they are a basketball arena. Our section has one or two older fans like me and my Wife, but is mostly kids. Main Event starts with Ryder vs. Stardust. Decent match, Ryder wins, which surprised me. Not a huge pop for either guy, but most of the crowd is still up and moving around, aware that it's not smackdown yet. Next we get Paige v. Naomi, with the remnants of team Bad (who lana is now apparently a member off) and Paige's new super friends, Fox and Natty. Naomi's boots look awesome live, as a side note. They seem to be set to change colors when she takes a hard bump. One went Green and the other stayed Blue when she kicked paige in the gut, which was funny. Anyway, match itself was good, bout 8-10 minutes live, NAomi won with a quick rollup and the tights once Emma and Summer Rae came down to beat up Natty and Foxy for some reason. Post match all 5 Heel diva's posed in the ring while Paige and her team looked on from the ramp. Last out was the Social Outcasts out to indifference to hype the Battle Royal. Kane interrupted them with Pyro, and we got a Tag Match, which Big Show and KAne won. Pretty basic stuff, Show and Kane spent the match beating on bo dallas, and tagging each other in against the other's wishes. They did a pretty funny spot where the SO lead the crowd in "fight! Fight! Fight!" chants while running around the ring, only to have Kane and Show cut them off. Show won with a sidewalk slam esq maneuver. Smackdown itself starts with Becky on commentary. Becky got a pretty good pop on the way down, her entrance is fun for the crowd live which helps. Charlotte came out and cut a good heel promo on them both, and how she will retain the title. We want Sasha chants throughout this promo. Sasha out to a huge pop. Sasha and her had a good match, lasted like 10 minutes live. Sasha got the win after Charlotte tossed her into BEcky outside, Charlotte went for the big boot when Sasha got back in, but Sasha rolled under it and got a roll up win. Post match, Becky came in and pretended she wanted to hug Sasha, which Sasha kinda put off then went "ok fine" Exploder suplex from Becky off the hug, then she picks up Charlotte and does the same. In what was prob. an off air segment, Sasha hit the backstabber on Charlotte after Becky walked off, popping the home crowd. Next up was a backstage segment with the Dudley's talking crap about the USo's, reigns walks on screen to challenge Bubba to a fight. New Day out next, they are over huge in Boston, mabey the biggest pop of the night. They cut the standard promo on the League, then Shemus came out for a one on one with Kofi. Good back and forth match, with Shemus winning via brouge after Xavier and big E fell for Rusev hitting Kofi outside and running off, while BArret cocked him from behind with an elbow. We got Owens and Miz v. Sami and Dolph. I got the impression most of the crowd was here for 3 guys in this match. Huge pops for Sami and Dolph, with Dolph's prob being louder than sami's. Sami was very over too though. Miz got a better pop than I thought he would. Owens was out last to massive heat/cheers. Match of the night for sure, good story told that came across without commentary of Owen's not wanting to be in the match at all, as all the other 3 are after his title. Good spot where Owens was in, Sami got the Tag, and Owens teased a fight and ran and tagged Miz. Fun match, and good action, went 15 live or so. Finish came when Owen's didn't want a hot tag from Miz after Sami had gotten a piece of Owens earlier, so he tried to bail, only to run into the other guys from the match at the top of the ramp. Then, Miz of all people (the legal man), runs out and tosses him back in the Ring, then rolls in himself to take a super kick into a helluvakick. Made no sense for Miz to do that and not one of the babyfaces, but whatever. Rest of the night till brock was squash matches. Uso's squashed Acension to set up a spot post match where they put them through tables. AJ squashed Breeze. Reigns squashed Bubba and Devon. M/E was a Paul Heyman promo, which was good as always. Then Brock called Dean down, and instead got the Wyatts minus a injured Luke Harper. They did there typical "lets surround him and creepily stare at him" spot which looked weird with no 4th person, as Brock could have just left. Then Dean's music hit to bring him out with a Kendo Stick. As Deans Music hit, Brock used the distraction to start taking various Wyatts to suplex city, while Dean ran in and kendo stick'd them. Dean then turned around to hit Lesnar with the Kendo stick, and ate an f-5 to close the show. No real after match, Dean called out someone to fight him (we were actually getting up at this point, I didn't see who came out) but someone took Dirty deeds, and Dean's music played as he thanked Boston for coming out. Biggest pops/ reaction (1) Brock (2) New Day (3) Reigns (4) Owens (5) Sami/Dolph (6) AJ a live note: Women and kids do loe Roman's entrance, can confirm. The Women next to me, who was sheperding 5 or 6 8-10 year olds, could have given a shit less about WWE, but loved Roman because "he's the hot guy right?!?! (said to her kid)" so clearly WWE knows what they are doing with that demographic. Here's the thing though. Unlike Cena, those fans checked out after the entrance. So while the reaction was your standard Cena mixed boo's/Cheers, they morphed into all Boos until the big "WWWHOOOOO-AAAAAHHHHH) spear spot, which got mixed again. WWE needs to find a way to make those fans who cheer Roman's Entrance care about his matches. That was the biggest diffrence to me. After the entrance, you could have heard a pin drop for most of the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So speaking fact now means im young? lol false. Im most likely older than you.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If I remember correctly Adam posted a warning saying how he has been lenient on you do to your age. That's the reason I assumed your were young since it doesn't make sense to give out that type of warning or leniency to someone in their 20's or higher. I might be mistaking you with Russelrules through.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You want to hear my opinion on Reigns? Of course you don't, but this is the Internet so hush because I'm going to give it anyway... <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Ring Style:</span> Roman Reigns is everything WWE want's their top worker to be when it comes to ring work. He is by no means an excellent wrestler, but he isn't as bad as people say he is either. I doubt he'll ever put on multiple 5 star matches, but he can beat the hell out of his opponent and is a believable bad ass... until the next part of my opinion...</p><p> </p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Promo Execution:</span> This is where Reigns falls on his face. He just has no Charisma, a monotone delivery that does nothing to hype or connect with the fans. There doesn't seem to be passion in his delivery. Anyone can shout into a microphone, but it is the ability to connect with the audience that willl make you an unforgettable superstar. This is why Daniel Bryan and CM Punk got the crowds behind them, because you could see their passion and desire. Roman Reigns does not work as a face.</p><p> </p><p> Is all the negativity Romans fault? Of course it isn't. The guy is employed to do a job, and he is doing what his bosses tell him to do. Unfortunately his employers have screwed the pooch by forcing him down everyones throats as a face because I think Roman Reigns could be one of the best bad ass heels we've seen in a long time. He has that intensity in his ring style that means he could just go out there and fight. Add a few more moves to his arsenal maybe and Pair him with a mouthpiece manager to do his talking.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think that is going to happen to be honest. I've heard rumors of this after Mania, something very similar anyways. I also agree with mostly everything you said, if not all.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I disagree about him having no charisma. I think he does have some but it's not this smiley babyface charisma. His Wholesome rating is a solid 0. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I also think his delivery is good but each to their own I guess, I'm not going to argue that since it's all subjective. But I still maintain that he's put in a very difficult position and gives 100% each and every time. It's not like he goes out there with a microphone and just phones it in. He genuinely comes across as though as he hopes tonight is the night that the fans finally cut him some slack.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes, his charisma was off the charts when he was with Rollins and Ambrose. It's not something that shows up in his promo's because of the script. He shouldn't talk much, his gimmick is "Bad Ass" and babyface on top of it. A Heel bad ass might talk quite a bit, but a face comes out much better if they don't talk much. They did it really well with Randy Orton when he turned into a babyface bad ass. Randy can turn into a great heel on a dime though, I just don't see it for Reigns. They used the perfect guy out of the shield to do that with in Rollins.</p><p> </p><p> Just to be clear, I agree with your post, as well as the longer post before.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know iruleall15 is young but how young to you have to be to use "His ring work isnt even good. Im assuming you are new to watching wrestling as a whole? Never seen Daniel Bryan or Cesaro wrestle? Thats a real wrestler. Also Bray Wyatt are what a great promo sounds like." towards someone?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's not about knowledge, but delivery. If your opinion is different from mine, biting my head off in a post is only going to make me think your a child having a temper tantrum for no reason. I doubt anyone totally disagree's with his post, but everyone knows it's an opinion, not fact. The way he delivered his opinion made it IMO, totally not relevant. In other words it came off as an attack, not an enlightenment, as it was probably meant to be.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kitarzu" data-cite="Kitarzu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I almost totally agree with Fleisch, except... <p> </p><p> 1) Reigns has the right charisma to play only as the strong silent type, a bad ass, either babyface or heel. He hasn't the right skills to be the speaking headliner of a global wrestling company, like John Cena has been in the last ten years, unless you consider WWE a family friendly oriented entertainment company and that's another story. </p><p> </p><p> 2) From the in ring perspective, he is still too spotty, but that could be also WWE fault the way he's booked. His Wrestlemania match could be good, because Triple H is a great ring general, but this issue could be more evident if his future opponents aren't good wrestlers.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't know, I don't think he has to be totally silent, just better material and more straight forward. When going up against a good talker, he should be given one liner's that take the credibility away from the talker instantly (gaining a great crowd reaction). I agree he shouldn't be talking for 30 minute openers etc. He should sound just as strong as he looks at all times. </p><p> </p><p> As far as in ring, he is IMO a step above what most say. He's no ring general or showstopper, but I believe he can carry a match almost on the same skill as Cena (another that I think is underrated in skill) I think most critique him harsher because he is the obvious choice of management, and it angers them when Ambrose should be filling that spot. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Devilb0y" data-cite="Devilb0y" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's very hard to argue that Reigns has <em>no</em> charisma, it's just not the kind that manifests when he has a mic in his face.<p> </p><p> He turns heads in his entrances because he's got such a presence, but it all falls apart when he speaks.</p><p> </p><p> Personally I wish they would stop trying to fit a square peg into a round hole and accept that he has some great qualities - which they should exploit - and some not so great ones - which they should hide, rather than acting like he can do no wrong.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you Paul Heyman?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So speaking fact now means im young? lol false. Im most likely older than you.</div></blockquote><p> Re-read your posts, no one is attacking you on age or anything. It's the way you come off. I doubt your intention was to attack him, but that's how it looked, and most everyone knows he has more rounded knowledge of professional wrestling than most on this forum. You're choice of words made any points you had invalid when you questioned that. Personally I think you were trying to counter points he made, it just came across in your post as an attack instead.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The_CoC" data-cite="The_CoC" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're not wrong with Reigns despite him being over with the kids and females. After Mania I could imagine him turning heel, hell we could see a double turn.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think they might try that, so you might get what you want. I just don't think that's exactly the problem. As a heel maybe they won't have him talking as goofy, and that would be good, but I think it's just he should always talk as if he is focused on one thing, heel or face. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Reigns is the reverse Ryback. Ryback is supposed to be a demolishing heel but it doesnt work for him hes great as a face. While Reigns is supposed to be the top face but clearly its not working so assuming he will work great as a heel.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can clearly see your opinion and how you ended up with it. Very interesting and observant. You could very well be right, I can't debate that. Especially with all the horrible promo's Ryback did as a heel, in comparison to his Face work. </p><p> </p><p> I do think both do better when just getting straight to the point though, instead of trying to "WoW" the crowd with bad humor, no matter their disposition. When Reigns just says "I'm gonna beat Hunter's ass!" it gets a better reaction than making a joke about his wife leading him around or something.</p><p> </p><p> By the way... Favorite Ambrose move was grabbing HHH's nose in the match, than hitting it when he finally let go. I couldn't quit laughing.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Agree to Disagree. He is god awful at longer promos, maybe one of the worst top of the card guys I've ever seen.<p> </p><p> You'll notice they have seemingly figured this out at least, after two years of crowds turning on him. He hasn't given a longer promo in 2 months or so, and suprise suprise, the silent badass babyface is starting to get over a bit. They have been smart recently, keep his promo's short and to the point, let him go out there and be a silent dominating type gimmick. </p><p> </p><p> Work's much better than "tater tot" Roman</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with at least half of this. If he came out and talked about chewing gum and kicking ass (Piper inspiration) instead of Tater tots and such, I think it would go over better.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's not about knowledge, but delivery. If your opinion is different from mine, biting my head off in a post is only going to make me think your a child having a temper tantrum for no reason. I doubt anyone totally disagree's with his post, but everyone knows it's an opinion, not fact. The way he delivered his opinion made it IMO, totally not relevant. In other words it came off as an attack, not an enlightenment, as it was probably meant to be.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just to make it clear I was also talking about his delivery rather than his knowledge. When I said he's young (which he might not be) I was talking about how an older person would read what they wrote and see how cringey the phrase sounded. </p><p> </p><p> Especially this part "Im assuming you are new to watching wrestling as a whole? Never seen Daniel Bryan or Cesaro wrestle? Thats a real wrestler." which is probably the most stereotypical smark post (If he had used indy names it would have been worst) I've ever heard outside of Kayfabe News. Not even on wreddit have I seen someone actually say something like who wasn't a troll.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 So New Day is inducting The Fabulous Freebirds into the Hall of Fame. Other than New Day using the Freebird rule, why the heck are they inducting them? The Freebirds were notoriously racist inside and outside the ring, and it's not like Hayes has settled down in that department in his old age. Why isn't Kevin Von Erich or Jesse(Terry Gordy's son, of Jesse and Festus "fame") inducting them? I'm sure New Day will be entertaining as heck during the speech, but I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. But if Big E comes out in Confederate Flag face paint, I'll be happy as a clam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 As far as in ring, he is IMO a step above what most say. He's no ring general or showstopper, but I believe he can carry a match almost on the same skill as Cena (another that I think is underrated in skill) I think most critique him harsher because he is the obvious choice of management, and it angers them when Ambrose should be filling that spot. I don't know what Cena you're talking about, 2005 or 2015, but Reigns still can't carry a match and I don't see the potential improvements Cena has shown along these years. Speaking of Cena, his best quality, that Reigns lacks or didn't show enough, is inner fire. While John Cena has been criticized for the monster push, wrongfully because WWE is the one to blame, he displayed enough passion to weather the storms. Reigns instead, for me, looks like the employee who does his average job just to get his monthly salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 So New Day is inducting The Fabulous Freebirds into the Hall of Fame. Other than New Day using the Freebird rule, why the heck are they inducting them? The Freebirds were notoriously racist inside and outside the ring, and it's not like Hayes has settled down in that department in his old age. Why isn't Kevin Von Erich or Jesse(Terry Gordy's son, of Jesse and Festus "fame") inducting them? I'm sure New Day will be entertaining as heck during the speech, but I just don't understand the reasoning behind it. But if Big E comes out in Confederate Flag face paint, I'll be happy as a clam. What's better than wash and minimize the racism, rather than pair them with a trio of black guys? Marketing, hypocrisy and politically correctness over 9000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What's better than wash and minimize the racism, rather than pair them with a trio of black guys? Marketing, hypocrisy and politically correctness over 9000. Basically this. If the three black guys are okay with the Freebirds so should we. Sometimes the best thing to do is just to ignore and go on ahead. Remove any confederate flags from the video packages, have a Von Erich introduce them and tell Michael Hayes to not say anything racist. It's not like Hayes has any big stories well-known stories about his racism unlike Hogan's recent one. If WWE didn't bring it to attention then no one apart from some wrestling fans would care but by putting the New Day in it just makes people talk more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 My problem isn't the racism, it's the fact that it makes no sense. The only connection is that New Day uses the Freebird Rule. Why not someone with actual ties to the careers of the Freebirds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 My problem isn't the racism, it's the fact that it makes no sense. The only connection is that New Day uses the Freebird Rule. Why not someone with actual ties to the careers of the Freebirds? Kevin Von Erich would have been the best and only choice for this. If he had rejected then Jesse would have been a good choice considering he's Terry Gordy's son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The best part of Raw this week was Kevin Owens. The best wrestler in backstage segments not in The New Day is Kevin Owens. Owens usually has at least 1 MOTW contender every week. It really is KO Mania. A feud with Reigns for the WWE Championship would be pretty good. If anyone could get people to cheer Reigns it's Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruleall15 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The best part of Raw this week was Kevin Owens. The best wrestler in backstage segments not in The New Day is Kevin Owens. Owens usually has at least 1 MOTW contender every week. It really is KO Mania. A feud with Reigns for the WWE Championship would be pretty good. If anyone could get people to cheer Reigns it's Owens. Owens is gold in everything he does. That man needs to be pushed as the #1 guy. He can wrestling and talk circles around Reigns and a good portion of the roster. A guy like Owens is what people want now. Not some roided out body builder type. The land of giants is dying and no one wants it to come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk8492 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The best part of Raw this week was Kevin Owens. The best wrestler in backstage segments not in The New Day is Kevin Owens. Owens usually has at least 1 MOTW contender every week. It really is KO Mania. A feud with Reigns for the WWE Championship would be pretty good. If anyone could get people to cheer Reigns it's Owens. I would cheer Owens Owens is gold in everything he does. That man needs to be pushed as the #1 guy. He can wrestling and talk circles around Reigns and a good portion of the roster. A guy like Owens is what people want now. Not some roided out body builder type. The land of giants is dying and no one wants it to come back Yeah, Vince is out of touch with what current fans want. He seems to have gone back to the 80s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Yeah, Vince is out of touch with what current fans want. He seems to have gone back to the 80s. Been going back on the network and I'm doing a thing where I watch every PPV WWE has starting with the first Wrestlemania....The size of everyone is insane! Even Dynamite Kid looks unrealistically huge. The biggest shocker to me was Ricky Steamboat because I never watched him in the mid 80's and he looked like he could bend a car in half. None of the guys stood out to me unless they were a jobber because they didn't look to be as much an Incredible Hulk build. I'm glad we are in the age we are in now because the match pacing was very slow due to everyone looking like Scott Steiner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_CoC Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Owens is gold in everything he does. That man needs to be pushed as the #1 guy. He can wrestling and talk circles around Reigns and a good portion of the roster. A guy like Owens is what people want now. Not some roided out body builder type. The land of giants is dying and no one wants it to come back I agree that I don't want a land of the giant environment but I can't stress how important variety in wrestlers is. As great as Owens is I can think of many guys I would rather see as the #1 guy eg. Rollins, Ambrose or Balor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk8492 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I agree that I don't want a land of the giant environment but I can't stress how important variety in wrestlers is. As great as Owens is I can think of many guys I would rather see as the #1 guy eg. Rollins, Ambrose or Balor. All three of them would be better number one guys than Reigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_CoC Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 All three of them would be better number one guys than Reigns. Eh you never know in wrestling, Roman could drop one hell of a promo and go heel and then have the fans in the palms of his hands like Rock. But I highly doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk8492 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Eh you never know in wrestling, Roman could drop one hell of a promo and go heel and then have the fans in the palms of his hands like Rock. But I highly doubt it. I also really doubt it. Roman Reigns has about as much charisma as a poster of The Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_CoC Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I also really doubt it. Roman Reigns has about as much charisma as a poster of The Rock. Go watch some original FCW with him, he has charisma he just has learn to express it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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