Slim Jim Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Wasn't it just a house show they decided to stick on the Network as a bonus event before Mania? That's why it didn't change anything. I preferred the feel of it, the stripped back set rather than that overly produced and flashy set they use for Raw/Smackdown/most PPVs, and also the lighting was great. I know they usually want to highlight the crowd to include their reaction etc. but something about having just the ring lit up looked great. Enzo & Cass and The Revival (hate the name) were great, hope they get a chance to shine on the main roster. Natalya needs to be given more of the spotlight, she'd be a great 'veteran' addition to the new generation of women's wrestlers in the 'Diva Revolution'. As for Shane coming back to help out, of course he would. I doubt it was a surprise that Vince anointed Steph as his heir-apparent. If you listen to anyone that's worked there, they say they preferred Shane but he was too close to 'the boys' and that Steph is more like Vince. And Vince surely would have made it pretty clear what his attention was to both kids well in advance, and Shane decided to go apply his talents elsewhere. I can see why he would be a bit burned by the whole thing but not enough that he would shun his family forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Because he has a reason for it. I know if I were him I wouldn't perform on WM, and it wouldn't mean i would be holding a grudge per se. Shane has no reason to hold a grudge. He walked away from the business to find his own path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Because he has a reason for it. I know if I were him I wouldn't perform on WM, and it wouldn't mean i would be holding a grudge per se. Shane voluntarily left, and gets six figures for one night's work. The poor guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Roadblock Review: Great - Ambrose vs HHH Good - Enzo & Cass vs The Revival, Charlotte vs Natalya (except Nattie stupidly letting go of the submission to hit Ric) Solid - New Day vs League of Nations OK - Lesnar vs Harper (why was Bray even there?), Jericho vs Swagger, Zayn vs Stardust (Zayn looked too weak against a jobber) Verdict: Decent for a glorified house show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Shane voluntarily left, and gets six figures for one night's work. The poor guy. One night's work and the raws leading up to it. But still, if he does a good job at WM, I don't really see why his salary should be all that important. It's not like he's the first part-timer to come and collect the big bucks for a one night match and/or a short time deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Roadblock Review: Great - Ambrose vs HHH Good - Enzo & Cass vs The Revival, Charlotte vs Natalya (except Nattie stupidly letting go of the submission to hit Ric) Solid - New Day vs League of Nations OK - Lesnar vs Harper (why was Bray even there?), Jericho vs Swagger, Zayn vs Stardust (Zayn looked too weak against a jobber) Verdict: Decent for a glorified house show. Good lord, I would normally want to hit you for calling Cody a jobber... ...But I can't, because his situation is so bad, I'm agreeing with the declaration... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Good lord, I would normally want to hit you for calling Cody a jobber... ...But I can't, because his situation is so bad, I'm agreeing with the declaration... Should have been Breeze instead and Zayn shouldn't have been dominated for 90% of the match. I don't think WWE know what they have in Cody. The gimmick itself is good because of Cody's commitment but he's never had any direction beyond extended Stephen Amell and Neville feuds. Adding the Ascension did nothing because they are goofy jobbers. My idea would be to do a split personality storyline where Cody returns on Raw but shows up as Stardust on Smackdown (and vice versa) in different feuds and thinks he's completely sane. This culminates in a showdown between Cody and Stardust where he's forced to realise he needs helps (Goldust can play a part) and he returns as Cody full time. Obviously, I've put way more thought into it than WWE ever would and I'm not sure the fans would care at this point but it's better than running Stardust into the ground. Cody could be a solid midcarder if they just let him be himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Kevin Owens promo after his iron match with AJ Styles at the Atlantic City house show. He's not bad on the mic, eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yea seeing Stardust dominating that match was odd given that Zayn has had triple the TV time (I'm counting NXT because it has a way bigger audience than Superstars and Main Event). I agree with Breeze would have been a good opponent for Zayn because the man has had some TV time but it's more of a jobber to the jobber to the stars role (That was not a typo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 how can anyone say Roadblock was a glorified house show? Like its underppv, but it was better than a tv card jus super predicatable. House shows do not have Dean Ambrose, Brock Lesnar, Triple H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Scott Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 how can anyone say Roadblock was a glorified house show? Like its underppv, but it was better than a tv card jus super predicatable. House shows do not have Dean Ambrose, Brock Lesnar, Triple H Umm....Ambrose is on house shows all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_Ditch05 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 how can anyone say Roadblock was a glorified house show? Like its underppv, but it was better than a tv card jus super predicatable. House shows do not have Dean Ambrose, Brock Lesnar, Triple H House Shows do in fact have Dean Ambrose, also the night before Road Block, Brock competed on a house show against Bray and Luke. Also, that's why it's "glorified" It's a house show, but better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 how can anyone say Roadblock was a glorified house show? Like its underppv, but it was better than a tv card jus super predicatable. House shows do not have Dean Ambrose, Brock Lesnar, Triple H It was a house show they decided to air on the Network to help build hype toward Wrestlemania. The Beast in the East was the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 It was a house show they decided to air on the Network to help build hype toward Wrestlemania. The Beast in the East was the same way. man i get ripped off on house shows I go to then. Bray Wyatt vs Kane is the main event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 One house show I went to was headlined by Booker T and Batista in a cage match that was quite good and went about 15 minutes or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 One house show I went to was headlined by Booker T and Batista in a cage match that was quite good and went about 15 minutes or so. midcard then > midcard now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Wasn't it just a house show they decided to stick on the Network as a bonus event before Mania? That's why it didn't change anything. I preferred the feel of it, the stripped back set rather than that overly produced and flashy set they use for Raw/Smackdown/most PPVs, and also the lighting was great. I know they usually want to highlight the crowd to include their reaction etc. but something about having just the ring lit up looked great. While I did not see the show, from what you are describing it sounds like how shows used to look in the 70's and 80's. I like the whole darken arena, spotlight on the ring look that they used to have back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 The last house show I went to years ago had Cena vs Trips, so that's not all true. Haven't seen Roadblock yet, but it's obviously just a tool to hype Mania, so "glorified house" show might be the right term here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 "Glorified house show" is a bit dismissive to be honest. If you're making a dumb joke or whatever, nbd, but the people actually discussing this show as a "glorified house show" (and I swear I've seen those exact three words about 100 times over the weekend) are wrong if we're breaking it down. That show was hands down better than any Raw in the last year save the one where Roman won the belt. I mean a house show is not televised and nothing that happens actually "matters" for story. The very fact that the show WAS televised and the event DID impact current story lines (at least to a point) it's not really a house show at all. It might have originally been scheduled as a house show but it isn't one now. If the show had no impact whatsoever on current storylines and also didn't get promoted heavily all over TV, then it's a glorified house show. Since it was hyped properly all over TV -and had a better main event build than half the PPVs this year- It's actually closer to a major show. It was clearly booked a bit stronger than your average Raw, which is your flagship show. That said, us arguing about this minutiae really accomplishes nothing. People can call a show whatever they want if they are joking or not. Who gives a crap? "Glorified house shows" or not, I'm all for more of these things popping up over the course of the year. I thought it was a good show. I thought the Ambrose match was awesome and did good things for his character. Obviously, HHH had to go over but I think they did a pretty good job of featuring Dean through a loss. I think that match helped his character not hurt it. Now Bray Wyatt?? His character continues to suffer week after week and I don't get why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UkWrestleFan Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 About Wyatt... "Dave Meltzer of WrestlingObserver.com reported on Sunday night that it turns out Bray is working with a back injury right now. Meltzer says Bray's back is in really bad shape, so WWE made the decision to stop him from taking bumps for the time being. This adds to the list of injuries Bray has sustained since his NXT days, including a pectoral injury that required surgery and several nagging injuries." Maybe they're worried that they'll give him a main event run, only to go down injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylocke Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 That would make sense....especially considering Brock Lesnar's opponents do nothing but bump for 90% of the matches these days. Bray can certainly do without one of those. They certainly don't need another Daniel Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="petecrimson00" data-cite="petecrimson00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>midcard then > midcard now</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This was Batista as World Champ and Booker at his WWE height of popularity.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 So I guess Neville snapped his Ankle/ Shin last night, makes Jericho's show down with Robertson make a little more sense, Robertson missed the pin audible, so Jericho did something off the wall to get a DQ/ some sort of stoppage for Neville. Deadspin got some good audio on it, basically Jericho was pissed that Robertson didn't hear Neville and Jericho tell him he was hurt and go for the quick finish, and Robertson didn't count the roll up (I thought it looked weird live, like it was a 3 count.) Makes sense for why Jericho would demand the mic for what I thought was a odd promo, and AJ seemed kinda like "ok, I'm winging this" on the way down to the ring. Bet Jericho was supposed to beat on Neville post match to have AJ come make a save, not cut a promo. http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/heres-what-happens-when-a-pro-wrestler-gets-injured-and-1764980116 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Guys did you hear BK is selling HOT DOGS?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruleall15 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 About Wyatt... "Dave Meltzer of WrestlingObserver.com reported on Sunday night that it turns out Bray is working with a back injury right now. Meltzer says Bray's back is in really bad shape, so WWE made the decision to stop him from taking bumps for the time being. This adds to the list of injuries Bray has sustained since his NXT days, including a pectoral injury that required surgery and several nagging injuries." Maybe they're worried that they'll give him a main event run, only to go down injured? If wwe gave guys less of a nuts schedule they wouldnt be hurt so much. They need to give guys another day off each week. Have specific guys have off a specific day of the week while still running the same amount of shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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