K-Nection Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I kinda forgot there was a PPV yesterday. I really can't keep up with all these wrestling shows and don't even have time to review earlier material on the Network or watch my FIP dvd's on the shelf. I'm going to have to pick one: RAW or SD!... <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've been so busy lately I've had to just condense it to a show that is guaranteed not to make my blood pressure boil and it's been NXT. I knew just by the in ring talent and presentation I would be a Smackdown guy but I haven't had time to invest which sadens me when I see some of these comments.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylocke Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 <p>Paige just got suspended again for violating Wellness Policy for the second in a row.</p><p> </p><p> Trying to get herself fired so she can work with Del Rio?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russelrules44 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Greylocke" data-cite="Greylocke" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige just got suspended again for violating Wellness Policy for the second in a row.<p> </p><p> Trying to get herself fired so she can work with Del Rio?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There are a few ways to look at it.</p><p> </p><p> One; she has a bit of a drug problem and has hidden it rather well up to this point. (Very unlikely)</p><p> </p><p> Two; she didn't know that pain killers were considered drugs. (Yeah, maybe that one)</p><p> </p><p> Or Three; She's doing this on purpose so she can be with Del Rio. (Also unlikely. But if that is the case, if I was the booker, she would probably be forced to do heavy duty jobbing. Because, that is an extremely immature move on her part.</p><p> </p><p> To me; (and apologies for going on a little rant) that goes to show that you are willing to sabotage your career just so you can be with your boyfriend.</p><p> </p><p> And I know what some are thinking; but AJ Lee did the same thing right? Far from it. She realized she had a decision to make (stay in wrestling or be with her husband) and mutually decided to be with her husband. Say what you will about her about her leaving at the height of her career, she did what she felt was best for her and I respect that.</p><p> </p><p> Paige is 24. She is no where near her prime, I understand that people her age tend to do stupid things; but that would be pushing it to levels of stupidity.</p><p> </p><p> But maybe it doesn't matter at this point, Paige is already under thin ice with management for her relationship with Del Rio and she's been known on Total Divas to be, well; a diva, so maybe this is a sign that the end is coming.</p><p> </p><p> And if it is, it will be a shame because we will have lost what SHOULD have been one of the greatest WWE women's wrestlers of all time. So if I were Paige, I would get my s**t together and start giving a damn about wrestling again.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The first suspension seemed really weird since she was injured anyway so it was a big question mark as why she was tested. I feel that there is way more to this story than anyone can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There are a few ways to look at it.<p> </p><p> One; she has a bit of a drug problem and has hidden it rather well up to this point. (Very unlikely)</p><p> </p><p> Two; she didn't know that pain killers were considered drugs. (Yeah, maybe that one)</p><p> </p><p> Or Three; She's doing this on purpose so she can be with Del Rio. (Also unlikely. But if that is the case, if I was the booker, she would probably be forced to do heavy duty jobbing. Because, that is an extremely immature move on her part.</p><p> </p><p> To me; (and apologies for going on a little rant) that goes to show that you are willing to sabotage your career just so you can be with your boyfriend.</p><p> </p><p> And I know what some are thinking; but AJ Lee did the same thing right? Far from it. She realized she had a decision to make (stay in wrestling or be with her husband) and mutually decided to be with her husband. Say what you will about her about her leaving at the height of her career, she did what she felt was best for her and I respect that.</p><p> </p><p> Paige is 24. She is no where near her prime, I understand that people her age tend to do stupid things; but that would be pushing it to levels of stupidity.</p><p> </p><p> But maybe it doesn't matter at this point, Paige is already under thin ice with management for her relationship with Del Rio and she's been known on Total Divas to be, well; a diva, so maybe this is a sign that the end is coming.</p><p> </p><p> And if it is, it will be a shame because we will have lost what SHOULD have been one of the greatest WWE women's wrestlers of all time. So if I were Paige, I would get my s**t together and start giving a damn about wrestling again.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> She want to be released but WWE denied her request. She is out with a neck injury and was prescribed pain killers by her own doctor. This is against WWE Wellness Policy. Any medicication needs to be prescribed by WWE's doctors. This way the guys dont find some local doctor writing them script after script. Paige was suspended last time for the exact same thing. She had a script that was not valid per WWE rules. At this point Paige is just trying to get fired.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayelek Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 According to Paige, the first test was clean but she didn't get it done in time because she was far from the testing site when it was ordered. Then the second one is related to pain killers, which makes sense because she's been injured for a while. I feel like if she takes time off, gets healthy but never gets her push back, it'll be WWE's loss is TNA's gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Comments from Paige's family: http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/10/10/13228702/paige-parents-saraya-respond-facebook-2nd-wwe-suspension-painkillers-improper-treatment-come-home http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/10/11/13245820/paige-brothers-comment-wwe-suspension-facing-career-ending-neck-surgery-prescribed-painkillers Basically, they weren't happy with treatment for her career-threatening neck injury in the US so she's in the UK getting treated by a Doctor and her prescribed pain killers (which she needs because she's in constant pain) are on the WWE ban list. Given that she hasn't wrestled for months you would think WWE would make an exception for Paige's well-being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I may just be crazy with anxiety while watching this Dodgers game, but I swear I just heard John Cena voicing an animated elephant in a commercial for pistachios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylocke Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 They finally started booking Rusev like an actual bad guy and Reigns as a good guy for once! Shocking! I hope this lasts more than 1 week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I may just be crazy with anxiety while watching this Dodgers game, but I swear I just heard John Cena voicing an animated elephant in a commercial for pistachios.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It wasn't your imagination. From a recent ESPN interview:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>"I'll answer it like this: Every single day that I don't have an outside obligation, I will fulfill any commitment that I have to WWE. And I will attach this quote with it that every outside obligation I have is to expand the brand of WWE and there has never been a superstar to say that before. ... I guess my mission statement is now to let the world know on a global scale that WWE certainly is a wonderful form of entertainment but its superstars are more than just superstars inside the ring. They do so much more outside the ring and have so much more to offer."</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just like The Rock he'd rather work than rest. Expect him to pop up everywhere between shows.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Comments from Paige's family:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/10/10/13228702/paige-parents-saraya-respond-facebook-2nd-wwe-suspension-painkillers-improper-treatment-come-home" rel="external nofollow">http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/10/10/13228702/paige-parents-saraya-respond-facebook-2nd-wwe-suspension-painkillers-improper-treatment-come-home</a></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/10/11/13245820/paige-brothers-comment-wwe-suspension-facing-career-ending-neck-surgery-prescribed-painkillers" rel="external nofollow">http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/10/11/13245820/paige-brothers-comment-wwe-suspension-facing-career-ending-neck-surgery-prescribed-painkillers</a></p><p> </p><p> Basically, they weren't happy with treatment for her career-threatening neck injury in the US so she's in the UK getting treated by a Doctor and her prescribed pain killers (which she needs because she's in constant pain) are on the WWE ban list. Given that she hasn't wrestled for months you would think WWE would make an exception for Paige's well-being.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yup I knew there was more to the story. Why are they still "testing" her? Are they trying to get out of paying her for the rest of her contract in a shady way? She has asked for her release and they have denied her only to keep suspending her.....For a company that runs so many anti-bullying campaigns this seems a bit hypocritical.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anggur Merah Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 <p>Okay... that's interesting way to close Talking Smack. Nice to see Harper back in ring action. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Pity that now it is Rowan who's out for several months. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yup I knew there was more to the story. Why are they still "testing" her? Are they trying to get out of paying her for the rest of her contract in a shady way? She has asked for her release and they have denied her only to keep suspending her.....For a company that runs so many anti-bullying campaigns this seems a bit hypocritical.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Paige's second suspension was for an illegal drug, not a prescribed drug like a painkiller. <a href="http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/wwe-fires-back-at-banned-beauty-spreading-lies-about-drug-test/" rel="external nofollow">As per, WWE.</a> Cocaine, people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige's second suspension was for an illegal drug, not a prescribed drug like a painkiller. <a href="http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/wwe-fires-back-at-banned-beauty-spreading-lies-about-drug-test/" rel="external nofollow">As per, WWE.</a> Cocaine, people.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Who in WWE? This doesn't look very credible because they didn't mention one single person. They mentioned WWE as in the reporter talked to the entire WWE. That was very bad wording. He didn't say if it was Stephanie, Hunter, Vince, Shane, Lex Luger (The guy over talent wellness), or the guy who puts the ring up.</p><p> </p><p> If WWE gives any kind of statement like this it's usually somebody from the PR department and they wouldn't attempt to go in on her like that in fear of getting sued.</p><p> </p><p> And nowhere in the article did it say Cocaine....</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige's second suspension was for an illegal drug, not a prescribed drug like a painkiller. <a href="http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/wwe-fires-back-at-banned-beauty-spreading-lies-about-drug-test/" rel="external nofollow">As per, WWE.</a> Cocaine, people.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> you won't get a specific person, because that would be a HIPPA violation. (the test results are private medical information. This is why no athlete ever gets called for the ol' "it must have been somthing from GNC!" because they know no one will ever challenge them on it)</p><p> </p><p> I think it's pretty Clear that Trouble follows Alberto wherever he goes. He's pretty much a known user, and what a surprise that Paige has gotten tagged twice for it. She's a young stupid kid dating a older man who likes to party, and she got caught partying The Painkillers excuse is such BS, just like every athlete that gets tagged wants you to know they totally just picked up something from GNC / the dog ate thier homework.</p><p> </p><p> If this was legit, her and her family would have worked with the WWE drug program. This is why you see athletes pop up in other sports (simone Biles for example, in the wiki leak) but never get tagged. because they work with the drug program to understand what they are taking, if its a violation, and how to go about it.</p><p> </p><p> Paige seems more like every other young athlete. Got caught on something, now creating a new reason for it (hi Adam Rose!) to fool her fans/ give them a rallying cry, and then claiming it's the testers fault, not hers.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 One of the weaker Smackdown shows recently but still solid, except for the main event which I fast-forwarded to the end because it was Orton/Kane vs Bray/Harper. Maybe if the Wyatts were in the tag division I'd find them interesting to watch again. I don't mind Styles losing to Ellsworth because the Ambrose referee screwjob was so fun to watch. Props to Styles for saving Ellsworth from serious injury on the Styles Clash. http://66.media.tumblr.com/5a7a089f9be4b45ea143246b684174bf/tumblr_oewvhlJXZO1u1ljrzo1_500.jpg Okay... that's interesting way to close Talking Smack. Nice to see Harper back in ring action. Pity that now it is Rowan who's out for several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I do not know if I ever shared this story or not on here about Luke Harper. I once saw him wrestle for Dragon Gate USA in a show outside of Boston. He was working as a heel and for the entire match there was a little boy who was maybe seven or eight (He could have been younger) screaming and yelling at him the entire match. After the match was done Luke left the ring and went over to where the young heckler was. I believe Luke's intentions were to give the kid a little scare as a joke because he looked down at the kid and stared at him. The kid started laughing and it was at that point that Luke noticed the kid had a deformed hand (No I am not a mind reader but I could tell by the look on his face). Luke went and gave the kid a hug and then clapped for the kid and told him he did a good job bothering him. What is the point of this story? There is none really, I just always thought that was kind of cool of him to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Kohral Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Paige's second suspension was for an illegal drug, not a prescribed drug like a painkiller. As per, WWE. Cocaine, people. Speculation is something harder. Just speculation everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russelrules44 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 <p>Cocaine's a serious drug. If it's true that Paige is taking cocaine, then maybe Paige needs to go to rehab.</p><p> </p><p> I still think Paige is trying to deliberately ruin her career for Del Rio, but maybe this is a sign that Paige has an addiction problem.</p><p> </p><p> Worse off, I've been hearing rumors that a picture went around on Reddit showing Paige with 'coke eyes' and in pretty bad shape. That's not a good sign.</p><p> </p><p> I honestly think that at this point Paige needs to part ways with WWE and get everything sorted out, maybe take the next year off if necessary. Addiction is not something you want to mess with, it can ruin careers. It happened with Sunny, it happened with Hawk, you can bet it will happen to Paige.</p><p> </p><p> And who knows? Maybe in a few years, she can come back after the tension's calmed down. But right now, it's clear that she's not ready for the bright lights of WWE and needs some time to mature.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 <p><a href="http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-paige-at-odds-over-neck-surgery/" rel="external nofollow">http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-paige-at-odds-over-neck-surgery/</a></p><p> </p><p> I really don't think it is cocaine...that is a speculation rumor and it seems to me that the doctors are giving her the CM Punk treatment. I don't get why they can be so strict with performers like Daniel Bryan but not care about performers and try to deny surgeries for performers like Paige.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-paige-at-odds-over-neck-surgery/" rel="external nofollow">http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-paige-at-odds-over-neck-surgery/</a><p> </p><p> I really don't think it is cocaine...that is a speculation rumor and it seems to me that the doctors are giving her the CM Punk treatment. I don't get why they can be so strict with performers like Daniel Bryan but not care about performers and try to deny surgeries for performers like Paige.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because Brian is a Concussion case, and they have a huge liability lawsuit going on.</p><p> </p><p> Also, I'm sorry, I don't extend Paige this level of Trust you are. There have been rumors, reports, and hell, even on their own reality show, she's been shown to be a very immature person, and likes to party. Del Rio has the same rep.</p><p> </p><p> Not a suprise for me she got busted for E, Molly, Coke or whatever. (give me a break on her "well, I totes only missed an exam cause it was far away you guys!!")</p><p> </p><p> Then less than a month later she gets popped again, and her family floats some hair brained rumor it was a super secret surgery in the UK, and there was some sort if miscommunication on if her perscription was good or not.</p><p> </p><p> Please. She's a young kid not owning up to her bad choices because she's young, no some target of WWE's vendetta machine like Punk was.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Honestly if a part timer like brock lesnar doesn't get tested then why are people that are not performing getting tested. This just seems to me they are trying to ruin her before her eventual release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Honestly if a part timer like brock lesnar doesn't get tested then why are people that are not performing getting tested. This just seems to me they are trying to ruin her before her eventual release.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ryback agrees with you and so do I. They need to be more consistent with their testing. And more helpful working with talent to make sure they don't take the wrong thing. If it keeps happening then the problem lies with WWE not the talent (except for the rare case of a legit drug abuser).</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://411mania.com/wrestling/ryback-says-goldberg-lesnar-should-be-drug-tested-says-he-should-be-facing-goldberg/" rel="external nofollow">http://411mania.com/wrestling/ryback-says-goldberg-lesnar-should-be-drug-tested-says-he-should-be-facing-goldberg/</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 WWE just confirmed Asuka vs Mickie James for NXT Toronto! Makes sense since the rest of the division is still being built up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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