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Severely botched finish with two guys I really don't even care about. They desperately need to pull that belt off of him and Reigns is definitely not the right guy to do it (he needs to be pulled off TV and refreshed). If they want a Hoss champion then why not Strowman or Somoa Joe? Either guy would be a believable opponent for Brock to lose to.

 

Well I certainly agree with you there. Brock probably doesn't need the belt at this point anyway, he'll likely be a draw as a special attraction regardless of whether or not he's a champion. Putting the belt on Strowman or Samoa Joe on the other hand, that could make them WWE's next big star. As for Reigns if they de-push him for awhile then turn him heel that might be enough to salvage him, it worked for the Rock after his less then loved first couple years as Rocky Miavia after all.

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Backlash:

 

Bayley vs Ruby - Solid match aside from a couple of sloppy spots.

Miz vs Rollins © - Great match.

Bliss vs Nia © - Solid match. Bliss has looked better since she stopped whiffing her bumps. Nia needs to study big female wrestlers like Viper, Mary Apache and Jordan Grayce to learn some new moves. Big Show probably has a bigger moveset.

Orton vs Hardy© - Solid match.

Bryan vs Cass - Solid match. I expected Cass to lose via intentional DQ.

Charlotte vs Carmella© - Solid match.

Nakamura vs Styles © - Great match. Don't mind the finish so long as the final match is good.

Braun & Lashley vs Zayn & Owens - Fun tag match but it's inclusion just made the PPV longer than necessary.

Joe vs Reigns - Good match, terrible booking decision to have Roman win. Roman another big match would have made for a better storyline and Joe now heads to Smackdown with a big loss.

 

Verdict: Average PPV. 3 good matches but the rest were TV quality. Ending a PPV in 2018 with Reigns winning is ridiculous booking (and I don't even mind the guy).

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We have a show with Styles and Nakamura having a match and Miz vs Rollins is the match of the night.

 

Terrible booking for Styles/Nakamura. Why give us a no dq match and still morning have winner? Garbage.

 

Joe vs Roman was decent, but hey let’s ruin another match with a garbage finish!

 

Other than Miz/Rollins, the Elias segment was my favorite of the night.

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Are we going to get the equivalent to the Bret in Canada spot when Goldberg speared him and knocked himself out (due to the metal plate) in the Styles vs. Nakamura feud? Sure seems to be headed that way.

 

Don't mind the finish because it follows the story, and Roman has been getting roasted by Joe (after getting punked by Lesnar and losing at WM). So whatever. Would love to see a heel turn where he basically throws the fans under the bus to make sure they don't cheer him.

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I don't know why Vince doesn't just turn Roman and gets it over with, (actually I do know why) but you guys can forget that happening. Him winning made sense but the finish to Nakamura vs Styles was anti-climatic to what was being a good match overall. As for people who expect dream matches from Shinsuke, let it go. There is no more excuses for him at this point. :D
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I don't know why Vince doesn't just turn Roman and gets it over with, (actually I do know why) but you guys can forget that happening. Him winning made sense but the finish to Nakamura vs Styles was anti-climatic to what was being a good match overall. As for people who expect dream matches from Shinsuke, let it go. There is no more excuses for him at this point. :D

 

Personally I just don't think him and AJ are capable of having more than one amazing match in a lifetime lol. If I was a mod maker I would say at this point they have poor chemistry. There first match was just so good that it covered that flaw.

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I really liked this match between AJ and Nakamura (probably my favorite of the 3). That said, the match quickly ranks at the bottom of the 3 when you factor in the finish. I'm not usually one to complain about a non-finish but come on seriously, after everything those 2 went through neither can get back up after getting kicked in the junk?

 

I feel like WWE is booking themselves into a corner with how this feud is playing out and keeping the belt on AJ, but maybe I'm not seeing the biggest picture.

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We have a show with Styles and Nakamura having a match and Miz vs Rollins is the match of the night.

 

Terrible booking for Styles/Nakamura. Why give us a no dq match and still morning have winner? Garbage.

 

Joe vs Roman was decent, but hey let’s ruin another match with a garbage finish!

 

Other than Miz/Rollins, the Elias segment was my favorite of the night.

 

Haven't watched the main event yet but so far I've liked what I've seen. The start was awesome with Miz vs Rollins and Alexa vs Nia with some nice storytelling and/or drama on both.The others were decent too, except Carmella vs Charlotte, which was borderline horrible. Crappy finish (the knee injury was done well on Miz vs Rollins but here it made no sense. Like you can't kick out of a frickin' rollup when you "blew your knee out"?!). Along with the botches and annoying screaming and rest holds, even Charlotte couldn't save the match, which is an accomplishment in and of itself.

 

The segment was kinda how I book my TEW segments: mash some superstars together with no purpose or plan and hope for fun interactions. Luckily Elias was good enough to make it work but the others got little to gain.

 

And sure, Styles vs Nakamura wasn't as great as it could've been. Maybe they just didn't want to risk beachballs during Reigns' match. :p There should be enough matchups in the future they can place better.

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Personally I just don't think him and AJ are capable of having more than one amazing match in a lifetime lol. If I was a mod maker I would say at this point they have poor chemistry. There first match was just so good that it covered that flaw.

 

I agree. And WWE force feeding the whole dream match scenario for WM raised expectations too high.

 

I really liked this match between AJ and Nakamura (probably my favorite of the 3). That said, the match quickly ranks at the bottom of the 3 when you factor in the finish. I'm not usually one to complain about a non-finish but come on seriously, after everything those 2 went through neither can get back up after getting kicked in the junk?

 

I feel like WWE is booking themselves into a corner with how this feud is playing out and keeping the belt on AJ, but maybe I'm not seeing the biggest picture.

 

I feel the same way. I think it should have ended with AJ winning and moving on to Samoa Joe, who seems likely to be the next contender and most likely champion, but no one can be certain when it comes to Vince and his plans. I don't think that at this point a Nakamura win would have made sense, especially after the buildup to this match. And because that would mean a 4th match with AJ or even a triple threath with someone else, probably Joe, which doesn't seem the best way to go. If they wanted the strap on him they should have pulled the trigger at Saudi Arabia. But then again, as you say, we might be failing to see the bigger picture, especially since we don't know what is to come.

 

Overall the show was entertaining, which is the most important (with entertaining matches for the most part) and I was surprised with the Jax/Bliss match. Bliss (of all people) carried Nia to an entertaining and dramatic match (note that it doesn't mean technically good) but I pray to the gods that Nia loses that belt A.S.A.P. I think Rollins and Miz stole the show. Miz is due a world title reign at this point.

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<p>Can't be bothered with watching Raw anymore but read the results and saw this: "Reigns says he’s championship material but WWE doesn’t agree with this and he’s tired of being screwed over."</p><p> </p><p>

Who is writing this nonsense?</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can't be bothered with watching Raw anymore but read the results and saw this: "Reigns says he’s championship material but WWE doesn’t agree with this and he’s tired of being screwed over."<p> </p><p> Who is writing this nonsense?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This can't be real. XD It's like they are mocking us.</p><p> </p><p> I lost access to RAW lately and don't want to bother watching it one month later (who in the right mind would?). Looks like I'm not missing much.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can't be bothered with watching Raw anymore but read the results and saw this: "Reigns says he’s championship material but WWE doesn’t agree with this and he’s tired of being screwed over."<p> </p><p> Who is writing this nonsense?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lmao its like they are trying to recreate what organically happened with Daniel Bryan.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="giphy.gif" data-src="https://media.giphy.com/media/PprHjp7DCw4BW/giphy.gif" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Back in my day they turned The Rock several times and he was killing it for them in merch! One of the main reasons I can't watch RAW is because it is painful for them to get this over.</p>
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<p><a href="http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0506/639655/who-produced-the-roman-reigns-vs-samoa-joe-wwe-backlash-main/" rel="external nofollow">http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0506/639655/who-produced-the-roman-reigns-vs-samoa-joe-wwe-backlash-main/</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Below is the full list of the matches for Backlash and who produced each:<p> </p><p> -Bayley Vs. Ruby Riott: TJ Wilson and Dean Malenko</p><p> -The Miz Vs. Seth Rollins: TJ Wilson</p><p> -Alexa Bliss Vs. Nia Jax: Sarah Stock</p><p> -Randy Orton Vs. Jeff Hardy: Arn Anderson</p><p> -Elias segment: Scott Armstrong</p><p> -Daniel Bryan Vs. Big Cass: Jamie Noble and Dean Malenko</p><p> -Charlotte Flair Vs. Carmella: John Laurinaitis</p><p> -AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: Jamie Noble</p><p> -Braun Strowman & Bobby Lashley Vs. Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn: Mike Rotunda & D-Von Dudley</p><p> -Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe: Michael Hayes</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Big Cass is turning into a really good promo guy: </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/EqP_9qHQjtY?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Does Rusev owe Big Cass a thank you?: SmackDown Exclusive, May 8, 2018"></iframe></div></div>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So TJ is both to be praised for the match of the nite in Rollins vs Miz but also to blame for having Bayley lose to Riott. Mixed emotions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just because they produce the matches don't mean they are the ones who decided who goes over?</p>
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<p>I highly doubt TJ had any say in the finish. Just because a road agent works on a match doesn't mean they're responsible for the winner or loser. That goes to creative.</p><p> </p><p>

Bayley vs Riott was better than the two womens matches on the actual card.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, it's surreal seeing Ruby in a WWE ring. Just a few years ago I handled selling her merch at a show along with Amazing N8 Mattson's and The Bearded Dragons(my brother and best friend's tag team). Ruby/Heidi was legit kind and very cool. I get pumped every time I see her on the screen.</p>

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I just had to share this... <a href="The%20Ballad%20Of%20Braun%20Strowman" rel="">The Ballad Of Braun Strowman</a>. I haven't stopped laughing for 10 solid minutes now. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just had to share this... <a href="The%20Ballad%20Of%20Braun%20Strowman" rel="">The Ballad Of Braun Strowman</a>. I haven't stopped laughing for 10 solid minutes now. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah seen it yesterday Brian Zane is a genius! but I think you link is broken lol </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Z9_y6I23oj8?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="The Ballad of Braun Strowman ("></iframe></div></div>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah seen it yesterday Brian Zane is a genius! but I think you link is broken lol <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Z9_y6I23oj8?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="The Ballad of Braun Strowman ("></iframe></div></div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There was also a Nickleback version called "This Is How I Got Over"... a while back, probably by a different person. It was also great and featured Braun. Thanks for the link fix, I have no idea what happened to mine but the important thing is that people get to have a laugh at the fun things. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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  • 2 weeks later...
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fox officially lands SmackDown for Friday nights.<p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.thewrap.com/wwe-smackdown-fox-broadcast-fridays-fall-2019/" rel="external nofollow">https://www.thewrap.com/wwe-smackdown-fox-broadcast-fridays-fall-2019/</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Strange that they would move it back to Fridays. Mainly because Fridays and Saturdays are viewed as the weaker days when it comes to television.</p>
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