The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MightyDavidson" data-cite="MightyDavidson" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But WWE has gone there in the past haven't they? Hasn't at least one Diva, Ashely Mazzaro I belive her name is, been a call girl in the past? I'm sure several of Godfather's hos back in the day were hired from there in the past as well.<p> </p><p> As for the pictures, Gail Kim posed topless before she came to the WWE so I don't really see why this is an issue. Is there some new policy in the WWE against girls trying to be gainfully employed before they enter the orginisation? Or is it a rule that's always been in effect but only applied to women standing 6'8" tall or higher?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think Kim's pictures where in between her employment with the E and it had them overlooking it also had something to do with stealing the no1 babyface female of the competition. For the rest all the girls of the E who have posed in playboy at the E's request where eventually fired and some of them quit quickly after. Latest one was a girl ring announcer being fired when it was found out she was topless in a film pre WWE. Anyway they do have a double standard imho.</p><p> </p><p> If it was about being upfront about stuff like that then maybe they do not have a double standard but I do not have the feeling that is the case here. Still it's all speculation.</p><p> </p><p> Aloise next Knock Out! She can't be worse then Von Erich lol.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yea, thats pretty much my take, that it's a borderline trolling attempt.<p> </p><p> Also, people need to stop bringing things up from the attitude era and pretending their onto a double standard.</p><p> </p><p> Business's change direction all the time, and change thier hiring and firing practices, even morso in the entertainment/sports arena.</p><p> </p><p> 15 years ago, what would become the UFC allowed sumo wrestlers to fight lightweights and ring girls to pretty much strip at cageside. </p><p> </p><p> Now they want to be seen as more professional and not a blood sport, so the code of conduct for employees has changed, do you think if, for instance, one of the ring girls was found to be an escort Dana should keep her because 10-15 years ago they were hiring strippers?</p><p> </p><p> or should he keep a guy who ignores the drug testing policy because 12-15 years ago no one cared?</p><p> </p><p> Companies change, corporate culture changes and employees need to change with them or find a new job.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maryse did full nudity shot and Kim topless shots so they do still maintain a double standard. Micky has done some raunchy stuff and they kept her on during the PG era, Kim was hired during it, Maria was kept on during the PG era and even promoted her shoot.</p><p> </p><p> Specifically towards Aloisa</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of the existence of the picture: Double standard</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of lying about the existence of the pictures: No double standard or miscommunication but still rotten.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because she might have been an escort: Dumb and rotten move.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because they have proof she was an escort or/and she lied about it: rotten move by the E but understandable and forgiveable.</p>

[SaySo]

<p>I'm sure Maryse and Gail Kim didn't lie on their interview and came forward with their pervious work (photoshoot). They cross the t's, dot the i's, and check the t's. Take the recent examples: Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fong reportedly garnered heat with some in the company over a topless scene she filmed for a direct-to-DVD movie called Ratko: The Dictator's Son, a National Lampoon production. She filmed the scene before being hired by WWE, <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>but company officials were unaware she had until video stills of Fong appearing topless surfaced online earlier this year.</strong></span> </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you fail to inform your employers, and they uncover something that you withheld, it's going to come back and bite you. It's a part of life. Maryse and Gail Kim been featured on PG programming (not Bubba The Love Sponge radio network). While Ring announcer Savannah and Aloise future endeavored before even being noticed by the casual audience. </p><p> </p><p> And if the WWE wants to find a Great Khali-diva...here's a candidate: </p><p> <span>http://www.zooweekly.com.au/assets/ZO4709_POSTER_AMAZON_9658.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> Hopefully she crosses the t, dots the i, and checks the t's.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

Yeah I remembered her being fired over it, she was the announcer I meant, but didn't remember if the stress was on the existence of the footage or her lying about it.

[sabataged]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think Kim's pictures where in between her employment with the E and it had them overlooking it also had something to do with stealing the no1 babyface female of the competition. For the rest all the girls of the E who have posed in playboy at the E's request where eventually fired and some of them quit quickly after. Latest one was a girl ring announcer being fired when it was found out she was topless in a film pre WWE. Anyway they do have a double standard imho.<p> </p><p> If it was about being upfront about stuff like that then maybe they do not have a double standard but I do not have the feeling that is the case here. Still it's all speculation.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Aloise next Knock Out</strong>! She can't be worse then Von Erich lol.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> You're so TNA biased it pains me to read most of your popsts</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're so TNA biased it pains me to read most of your popsts</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Lol it was a joke! But yeah I am a fan of TNA but calling me biased is going overboard imho. Problem with writing sometimes I mean stuff more as a joke or sarcastic and it's hard to make clear.</p><p> </p><p> Plus didn't I just bash Lacey Von Erich in that same post? I was trying to parody the 411 comment section on TNA in part.</p>

[ampulator]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maryse did full nudity shot and Kim topless shots so they do still maintain a double standard. Micky has done some raunchy stuff and they kept her on during the PG era, Kim was hired during it, Maria was kept on during the PG era and even promoted her shoot.<p> </p><p> Specifically towards Aloisa</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of the existence of the picture: Double standard</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of lying about the existence of the pictures: No double standard or miscommunication but still rotten.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because she might have been an escort: Dumb and rotten move.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because they have proof she was an escort or/and she lied about it: rotten move by the E but understandable and forgiveable.</p></div></blockquote><p> This is where I disagree. I may find faults with the WWE, but they are not rotten for letting her go if she did something that could potentially affect the company without telling them about it, even if it was work beforehand.</p><p> </p><p> Again, as a related example, if you were convict before, even for something not work related, you have to tell them. Anything you do or have done that can potentially affect them needs to be told.</p>

[Stennick]

How is it rotten if she was an escort and they released her? I disagree, flat out if she lied about the pictures I would fire her too. If she was an escort I'd fire her too. You can't just lie to your employer or so something like be a hooker and then expect all to be forgiven especially as an entry level employee.

[ampulator]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How is it rotten if she was an escort and they released her? I disagree, flat out if she lied about the pictures I would fire her too. If she was an escort I'd fire her too. You can't just lie to your employer or so something like be a hooker and then expect all to be forgiven especially as an entry level employee.</div></blockquote><p> We may disagree on many things, but we will agree here. </p><p> </p><p> I actually don't care about her being the escort, or the pictures. It's the fact that either lied (possible) and omitted it (likely). Being escort on top of lying about or omitting it makes it that much critical.</p>

[mike b]

<p>Her is a interview i found on you tube with Batista.He talks about his training for MMA and strike force.</p><p> </p><p>

 

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[crownsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maryse did full nudity shot and Kim topless shots so they do still maintain a double standard. Micky has done some raunchy stuff and they kept her on during the PG era, Kim was hired during it, Maria was kept on during the PG era and even promoted her shoot.<p> </p><p> Specifically towards Aloisa</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of the existence of the picture: Double standard</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because of lying about the existence of the pictures: No double standard or miscommunication but still rotten.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because she might have been an escort: Dumb and rotten move.</p><p> </p><p> If she was fired because they have proof she was an escort or/and she lied about it: rotten move by the E but understandable and forgiveable.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've mentioned in three posts now that i agree that theres a double standard and it sucks, so thats really not something i'm arguing...not sure why you lead off with that.</p><p> </p><p> i guess i'm just not as fired up about it as some.</p><p> </p><p> To me, it's no surprise that an unknown talent who doesn't fit the WWE Diva look (I.e Hot/athletic > skilled/muscular) didn't get as much leeway as two workers who are over (and in marlyse's case pretty much as over as you can get with the E's limited focus on it's Diva's)</p><p> </p><p> I just don't think that's any reason to pretend that the E is the only buisness venture that has double standards and it's evil.</p><p> </p><p> Business isn't fair, you don't think a VP of a major company who gets caught doing something inappropriate and aganst company policy wouldn't get more leeway that a kid who had been hired 6 months previous?</p><p> </p><p> Is it fair? no</p><p> </p><p> Is it buisness? yep</p><p> </p><p> Is it something i'm going to go on a moral crusade against the E' for? nope, i'll stick to their crummier business practices like treating thier talent as independent contractors to deny them comprehensive health care, the joke of a wellness policy, ect.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We may disagree on many things, but we will agree here. <p> </p><p> I actually don't care about her being the escort, or the pictures. It's the fact that either lied (possible) and omitted it (likely). Being escort on top of lying about or omitting it makes it that much critical.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Same here, sorry if that wasn't clear was trying to be quick. Crownsy wasn't aimed at you but more to clear something up. Ah well who cares she's gone and the E does (possibly) employ a double standard. And yeah their "health" system is a joke. Not so much on paper but the pervasive culture in the E. Still not going to argue this as it is endless and we don't have all the info.</p>

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We may disagree on many things, but we will agree here. <p> </p><p> I actually don't care about her being the escort, or the pictures. It's the fact that either lied (possible) and omitted it (likely). Being escort on top of lying about or omitting it makes it that much critical.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> World beware Ampulator and Stennick agree on something. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Same here, sorry if that wasn't clear was trying to be quick. Crownsy wasn't aimed at you but more to clear something up. Ah well who cares she's gone and the E does (possibly) employ a double standard. And yeah their "health" system is a joke. Not so much on paper but the pervasive culture in the E. Still not going to argue this as it is endless and we don't have all the info.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As opposed to that all encompassing health system TNA has, right? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As opposed to that all encompassing health system TNA has, right? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TNA HAS THE BEST HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<p>Now that is me being biased hehe.</p><p> </p><p>

But not going to argue about their relative merits and attitudes as towards worker health as I did that somewhere else and it tired me out and irritated the hell out of me.</p><p> </p><p>

Plus we are talking about the E here not in comparison or TNA on it's own.</p>

[Moe Hunter]

I worship at the altar that is Penn & Teller. Those two make anything great. I watched Shaq Vs. to see them. lol I even picked up Showtime to watch their critically acclaimed Bull ... hockey! Great show, by the by.

 

I kind of hope they're given some time to do stuff, while still being themselves. Even if it's "simple" tricks, they do it with such flair, it'll probably be better than the rest of the show. lol

 

Absolutely. I watched Shaq Vs on Youtube since I couldn't find it any other way, and I've got the whole series of Bull's *clap* hit (as they used to say on the radio show). Just phenominal. Also, if you haven't seen The Aristocrats yet, check it out - it's a doco that Penn directed along with Paul Provenza about the world's oldest/dirtiest joke, featuring over 100 comedians and their take on it. Gilbert Gottfried is king!

[Prophet]

Absolutely. I watched Shaq Vs on Youtube since I couldn't find it any other way, and I've got the whole series of Bull's *clap* hit (as they used to say on the radio show). Just phenominal. Also, if you haven't seen The Aristocrats yet, check it out - it's a doco that Penn directed along with Paul Provenza about the world's oldest/dirtiest joke, featuring over 100 comedians and their take on it. Gilbert Gottfried is king!

 

I've heard about it, but yet to see it. I need to find that. Just went to look it up, I didn't realize the vast amount of talent that had been resourced for that film. Definitely need to find it now.

 

If I'm not mistaken, Paul Provenza also hosts The Green Room, which is just a half hour show of comics shooting the breeze. There's an episode with Penn which is hilarious. It's him, Tommy Smothers, and Martin Mull I believe. If you can find that, I think you'll enjoy it.

 

And not to derail this too far ... short pants Zack Ryder, legitimate title contender, or conformed cry for help? Discuss.

[Stennick]

[Moe Hunter]

I've heard about it, but yet to see it. I need to find that. Just went to look it up, I didn't realize the vast amount of talent that had been resourced for that film. Definitely need to find it now.

 

If I'm not mistaken, Paul Provenza also hosts The Green Room, which is just a half hour show of comics shooting the breeze. There's an episode with Penn which is hilarious. It's him, Tommy Smothers, and Martin Mull I believe. If you can find that, I think you'll enjoy it.

 

And not to derail this too far ... short pants Zack Ryder, legitimate title contender, or conformed cry for help? Discuss.

 

I'll have to check out The Green Room, that combo alone sounds fantastic.

 

I think Zack Ryder tweeted in lament about the costume change. It would be nice to see him thrown in to a Midcard title mix, but I don't know if short pants is his ticket.

[Tha Black Phenom]

Matt Hardy is strongly hinting on Twitter that he's headed to TNA Wrestling. A fan asked him if there was any chance he'd team up again with his brother Jeff to re-form The Hardy Boyz. Matt replied:

 

"A 100% chance And I can't wait.."

 

Another fan also tweeted the following to Hardy:

 

matt comon man you got a losing streak ur not the matt I watch a long time ago. He received the following reply from Hardy:

 

"You're right-plan on changing that. It's time for me to go somewhere that'll I'll be given a fair chance-that's all I want."

 

Bah.

[Big Roguey]

Bah.

 

I'm sure I read the quoted part on another forum. Do you post on the WrestlingFigs board?

[Tha Black Phenom]

No, it's a piece of news. It's posted everywhere.

[Big Roguey]

No, it's a piece of news. It's posted everywhere.

 

Ah, makes sense. I need to sleep

[Jaysin]

-- Inaugural and reigning Wrestlicious Champion Glory (a/k/a Christie Ricci) posted the following message on her Facebook account after watching prospective WWE Diva AJ's match on Tuesday's episode of NXT: "I just saw a match on NXT. Obviously these girls are not trained! This girl, "AJ" went from a total dead sell to getting up, flipping her hair and beating the crap out of a dude! BRILLIANT! I have a good idea, WWE! Why don't you get Orton to sh*t in a bag, then through it in the ring... at least that would be interesting and more realistic. And just think.. next year this girl will be PWI's top wrestler!!!"

 

 

Hahahahahahaha