BHK1978 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 You can educate those young fans pretty quickly. I figure there would be enough adults in any live crowd who would know him and be excited, to get that good first pop (maybe go someplace where WCW ran a lot, just to be sure) Enough cool hype videos and superstars putting him over as a big deal, and kids will get the idea. I don't see it as that different to the Bret Hart deal. He was pretty special... at first. I agree with this, when I first got into wrestling in the mid-1980's, I had no clue who Bruno Sammartino or Pedro Morales were. However, because my father was into wrestling and because he explained to me that they were big stars in their days (maybe not to the level of a Hulk Hogan), I appreciated them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdWarrior Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I agree with this, when I first got into wrestling in the mid-1980's, I had no clue who Bruno Sammartino or Pedro Morales were. However, because my father was into wrestling and because he explained to me that they were big stars in their days (maybe not to the level of a Hulk Hogan), I appreciated them. When I was a kid, Abdullah The Butcher was a very much feared and iconic wrestler to me..... and at that point, I had never even seen him wrestle! All I had to go on was a picture in a wrestling magazine, showing The Butcher with a fork buried deeply into some unfortunate soul's forehead, while the blood flowed like wine. It got him mad over, at least in my mind. I miss those times. Anywho, WWE can easily educate anyone who needs to be educated about The Stinger. WWE just loves moments, remember, and if and when Sting shows up on Raw, (presumably), it'll definitely be a moment to remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWin Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I think WWE is actually getting better. Don't want to spoil the Rumble so I'll just say the surprised me at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So are we all assuming Sting has signed or has that been confirmed? Last I heard nobody knows if he is signed with WWE or TNA if anyone at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMcFly Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iWin" data-cite="iWin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think WWE is actually getting better. Don't want to spoil the Rumble so I'll just say the surprised me at least.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No need, justs type the spoiler in White Text. Albeit it's been about a week, I don't think it'll be spoiling it for anybody who's watched RAW.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 IMO its not a spoiler if its aired. I knw if I don't want poilers I stay away from these TNA/WWE threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Spoiler means the show was taped and hasn't aired yet. Or if a signing took place and is known in the dirt sheets but hasn't appeared on a show yet. Things like that. Use common sense when doing spoilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 An armbar may not be the most spectacular finisher, but at least it's a lot more credible than most WWE finishers. Like Rey's 619, for example, which may look good but makes little sense and looks like it only tickles the nose of the opponent. Except when he busted a huge gash in Matt Hardy's head, and injured Undertaker twice with it... Arguably it's the most dangerous finisher in the WWE (second place might go to Sheamus' Cruxifix Powerbomb, with its unprotected head bump) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>IMO its not a spoiler if its aired. I knw if I don't want poilers I stay away from these TNA/WWE threads</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I always thought the general rule of thumb was 48 hours ofter it aired so thats how I've always been.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Fair play to Kelly Kelly, she took one hell of a bump on the guard rail. When I saw her hit I flinched which I rarely do when watching WWE. I think this new attitude with Kelly Kelly is to fit in with Macintyre when they eventually turn Drew face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thommohawk" data-cite="thommohawk" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I lost all interest - what killed it for me was I hadn't watched all year and I tuned in to consecutive Wrestlemania's only to find that quite literally nothing had changed all year....that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is why I lost real interest in WWE a few years ago. It's the same mix of the same guys on top for the last five or six years with the occasional new face rotated in for a while to make things seem fresh and new.</p><p> </p><p> Orton and Cena having a staredown at the Rumble was obviously intended to tease a confrontation, but who could care when we're barely a year removed from them being in a feature match for <strong>FIVE</strong> pay-per-views in a row? The crowd didn't seem too into it and this was in Boston, Cena's home state. </p><p> </p><p> Wrestlemania is just as bad. You have the same cast and crew in the main events or the feature matches. There might be a new face or two in there but the same top guys are always there in some form or fashion. John Cena will be in the WWE title match for the seventh Wrestlemania in a row this year. Couldn't they, just once, put him in a feud that warrants him not being in the title picture? Even Bret Hart got shunted down the card with Bob Backlund for one Wrestlemania after settling in as a main event guy.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is why I lost real interest in WWE a few years ago. It's the same mix of the same guys on top for the last five or six years with the occasional new face rotated in for a while to make things seem fresh and new.<p> </p><p> Orton and Cena having a staredown at the Rumble was obviously intended to tease a confrontation, but who could care when we're barely a year removed from them being in a feature match for <strong>FIVE</strong> pay-per-views in a row? The crowd didn't seem too into it and this was in Boston, Cena's home state. </p><p> </p><p> Wrestlemania is just as bad. You have the same cast and crew in the main events or the feature matches. There might be a new face or two in there but the same top guys are always there in some form or fashion. John Cena will be in the WWE title match for the seventh Wrestlemania in a row this year. Couldn't they, just once, put him in a feud that warrants him not being in the title picture? Even Bret Hart got shunted down the card with Bob Backlund for one Wrestlemania after settling in as a main event guy.</p></div></blockquote><p> The bigger issue is... Cena and Orton just have plain out bad matches at worst... boring by-the-number matches at best. Even the markiest Cena fans are sick of seeing them against each other.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0shey Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <p>I know its not WWE but this is Hilarious</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded</a></p><p> </p><p> got to love comedy wrestling <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denzil85 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="b0shey" data-cite="b0shey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know its not WWE but this is Hilarious<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded</a></p><p> </p><p> got to love comedy wrestling <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was actually......AWESOME!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="b0shey" data-cite="b0shey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know its not WWE but this is Hilarious<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded</a></p><p> </p><p> got to love comedy wrestling <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Someone is a Bill Simmons fan. Speaking of Bill Simons for those who didn’t already know last year he interviewed HBK and The Miz on his podcast the BS report. Good listens, like all of his podcasts are.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The bigger issue is... Cena and Orton just have plain out bad matches at worst... boring by-the-number matches at best. Even the markiest Cena fans are sick of seeing them against each other.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah Undertaker/HBK worked because we hadn't seen them wrestle in a decade. Hogan/Warrior worked because they had never worked against one another. Orton/Cena have wrestled each other 400 times, as recently as one year ago. The crowd was more interested in the Cena/Kofi staredown.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <p>Probably the first week the last few months I've actually enjoyed Smackdown as much as RAW.</p><p> </p><p> Kelly Kelly v LayCool in a main event mixed-tag match sounds crap on paper but it was pretty good. Kelly's guard-rail bump and crying were top class.</p><p> </p><p> And I like how Vicki and Dolph are relentless in their pursuit of Edge's title.</p><p> </p><p> Booker T on commentary was good and so was Hornswoggle hitting Del Rio.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="b0shey" data-cite="b0shey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know its not WWE but this is Hilarious<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded</a></p><p> </p><p> got to love comedy wrestling <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've seen this clip blow up over the past few days, and I'm so happy about that because I'm a MASSIVE Osirian Portal fan. They're quite possibly my favourite tag team nowadays. I hope good things happen to them from this.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU4TDGlbTz8&feature=player_embedded It makes NXT's silly contest segments look amateur. And I love how excited the announcer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I've seen this clip blow up over the past few days, and I'm so happy about that because I'm a MASSIVE Osirian Portal fan. They're quite possibly my favourite tag team nowadays. I hope good things happen to them from this. I agree with Self here. I LOVE the Osirian Portal. Amasis even got Player Uno dancing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with Self here. I LOVE the Osirian Portal. Amasis even got Player Uno dancing!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is that kind of stuff that makes me miss the old school 1PW dance offs. Team S.H.A.G, Southern Comfort, AJ and Daniels, Storm & Fleisch. Good times.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <p>Watched the Rumble last night, and without spoiling it, I think they made a big mistake letting this man win. Seriously, a midcarder? I'm not watching WWE much these days, so I could be missing him.</p><p> </p><p> and that link of CZW is frickin' AWESOME</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Watched the Rumble last night, and without spoiling it, I think they made a big mistake letting this man win. Seriously, a midcarder? I'm not watching WWE much these days, so I could be missing him.<p> </p><p> and that link of CZW is frickin' AWESOME</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We've moaned about a stale Main Event for ages, and WWE have been pushing him hard. And he really has an all round package (apart from finisher). Personally I think it's a positive - Punk, Orton, Cena and Trips wouldn't really have gained from a win, and they were the other names being banded about for a win (well, and Morrison who would, but having <em>just </em>had a title shot the effect wouldn't have been quite the same).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Watched the Rumble last night, and without spoiling it, I think they made a big mistake letting this man win. Seriously, a midcarder? I'm not watching WWE much these days, so I could be missing him.<p> </p><p> and that link of CZW is frickin' AWESOME</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How is he a midcarder? He just won a main event title match at Wrestlemania, weeks after beating Rey Mysterio to cap off a major feud that saw him go over Rey on several occasions in the main event spot on Smackdown. </p><p> </p><p> Also I think we can say Alberto Del Rio won the Royal Rumble. It happened 7 days ago and three WWE TV shows ago, and has been on WWE's site since Sunday.</p><p> </p><p> And I don't watch Smackdown often, but what I have seen of Del Rio indicates he is the total package. He's a believable tough guy thanks to his size and MMA experience (his finisher ties into that), he's got an incredible look, is a solid hand and is a third generation guy who understands and respects the business, and he has some of the best heel facial expressions I've seen in years.</p><p> </p><p> Absolutely good for WWE for taking a chance on somebody that hasn't already been established for years and trying to create a "next big thing" type guy.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabbo Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <p>I've stopped checking this thread studiously and reading dirtsheets and I actually loved the Rumble. I've also cut back on the amount of Raw and SD! I watch, often just watching the recaps show each week so maybe I'm no longer over saturating myself. I enjoyed the two title matches, each had a few twists and turns and kept me interested.</p><p> </p><p> The rumble was a brilliant success. 30 men always leaves me wanting more and 40 worked so well. People are mostly against the recent changes in wrestling PPV's but this didn't feel as gimmicky as those. They had several nice substories within the Rumble such as New Nexus, welcome returns for Booker and Diesel, Miz eliminating Orton and Morrison's fantastic spot. Not to mention Del Rio, anything but predictable and executed well.</p><p> </p><p> I'm certain people will have disliked it and fully explained why, but I don't care any more. It doesn't have to be perfect, I enjoyed the event alot and look forward to future shows. I probably come across as really naive and markish (which for some reason is a bad thing online), but so many people watch wrestling constantly and moan about it constantly - it doesn't have to be that way.</p><p> </p><p> As a side note, I think a part of it is I've got my girlfriend into wrestling recently and she watches it as a mark, almost. She has no idea of backstage politics, no idea how things work backstage, supports the faces and hates the heels. Seeing her reactions makes me enjoy the show so much more.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> ---</p><p> On the subject of people complaining about the same guys being in the title picture:</p><p> </p><p> It's going to happen, you have two world titles. Everything is accelerated at double speed. Short of going back to one world title and via extension: one world title feud at a time - there's very little the WWE can do about it right now. Even if they did merge the titles, it's the sort of thing that would take at least a year to even itself out and start to feel fresh again.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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