Russelrules44 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Unless Russo magically got the book in the past week, I think we're safe. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or ARE we?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russelrules44 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <p>I just finished watching the WWE TLC kickoff.</p><p> </p><p> ....It's official....Dolph Ziggler is finished, HHH, you can go straight to hell........cause you've just ended a great career.....</p><p> </p><p> So does this mean Ziggler will deliver a shoot promo on Monday Night Raw tomorrow?....HE'D HAD BETTER!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <p>So I'll be doing a reaction show on my YouTube live after the PPV <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/letsplaytew" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/letsplaytew</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So for years WWE said the WHC wasn't the same title as NWA/WCW WHC and now it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electric appliance Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just finished watching the WWE TLC kickoff.<p> </p><p> ....It's official....Dolph Ziggler is finished, HHH, you can go straight to hell........cause you've just ended a great career.....</p><p> </p><p> So does this mean Ziggler will deliver a shoot promo on Monday Night Raw tomorrow?....HE'D HAD BETTER!</p></div></blockquote><p> He lost to Fandango? So I'm 1 for 1 with my predictions.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 They announced that the winner of Orton/Cena will be the WWE World Heavyweight Champion instead of Undisputed or Unified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWrestlingMan Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So for years WWE said the WHC wasn't the same title as NWA/WCW WHC and now it is?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They've never said that? Atleast I can't recall them ever saying it wasn't.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheWrestlingMan" data-cite="TheWrestlingMan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They've never said that? Atleast I can't recall them ever saying it wasn't.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They've always said that Triple H was the first ever World Heavyweight Champion and the lineage even starts with him on their website. </p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/worldheavyweight" rel="external nofollow">http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/worldheavyweight</a></p><p> </p><p> As opposed to the US and Cruiserweight titles have ALWAYS been said to have the same lineage as the WCW/NWA US and WCW Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/unitedstates" rel="external nofollow">US Title Lineage</a></p><p> <a href="http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/cruiser" rel="external nofollow">Cruiserweight Lineage</a></p><p> </p><p> Where as the history of the WCW World Heavyweight Championship begins with Ric Flair beating Sting in January 1991 and ends with Chris Jericho in December 2001.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/wcwchampionship" rel="external nofollow">WCW World Heavyweight Championship</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The guy pn reddit posting spoilers said that Orton is winning the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <p>The lineage doesnt go back because technically the NWA title is still active outside of WWE</p><p> </p><p> However they have 99.999% of the NWA championship footage prior to 93 and have all of the WCW footage so they can do what they want</p><p> </p><p> Winners write history</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm well aware they own all of that, I'm just saying that they've flip flopped and it's annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I rather the WWE belt continue the lineage instead of the present NWA one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDogg Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <p>And the "Brian Burial" Continues..</p><p> hey... WWE., this PPV sucks so far... Wake up and get a clue.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Match quality wise, this has been a fairly entertaining show. Outside of Miz vs Kofi and Brodus vs Truth I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDogg Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <p>Thank God I didn't pay for the PPV. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I think I am going to take a break from WWE for a while. .</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> (This right here conisistutes a "Ghost Writing Blog" that I will write later)</p><p> </p><p> And you KNOW its bad when I have to write about this...</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWrestlingMan Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 It was better than any of the DB/Orton mess so thats a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really thought Cena was legit hurt after that fall. He landed real awkwardly on that table and Orton mouthed "f**k" when he looked down and then just sort of stood there for awhile for no apparent reason. Maybe he forgot his line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 <p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ant2P-Zkxwc?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Overreaction Theater 1"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> And we're live!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 TLC Review: Ziggler vs Fandango - Didn't watch. At least Ziggler only jobbed on the pre-show. Punk vs The Shield - Slow by necessity but still a good match. Best spots: Reigns over the announce table. Reigns accidental spear on Ambrose (even though it was obvious it would happen). Natalya vs AJ (Divas Championship) - Strong contender for best Divas match of the year. I wouldn't have minded Nattie winning but I'm glad AJ won clean (hair pulling aside). Sandow vs Big E (Intercontinental Championship) - Decent match. I hope they use next year's Elimination Chamber to build up the IC Title. Big E, Sandow, Fandango, Ziggler, Rollins and Truth would be a decent line-up. Real Americans vs ReyShow vs Crybaxel vs RhodeDust (Tag Team Championship) - Better match than expected but a TLC stipulation would have made it more exciting. Rey & Show were OK but it's a shame the Usos had to get shafted to make room for them. Brodus vs Truth - This better lead to a monster Brodus push or it has no place on a PPV. Kofi vs Miz - Hard to get excited about this feud but the match was OK. Once again, a TLC stipulation would have made it better. Bryan vs Wyatt Family - I love all 4 guys and the match was good. My fantasy booking: Punk runs out for the DQ save and Bryan turns on him! It was never going to happen, though. Orton vs Cena (Unified Championship) - Great match against all expectations. The finishing sequence was inventive and Orton won! That was the perfect match to finally make Orton look like a legit champ. Verdict: Best PPV since SummerSlam. The big 3 matches all delivered. Only having 1 TLC match out of 8 was stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 TLC was so-so in my opinion. Awesome in wrestling but there are some dogs. And the best Diva Match of the Year was AJ vs. Kaitlyn at Payback, milamber. ''Brodus vs Truth - This better lead to a monster Brodus push or it has no place on a PPV.'' You crazy? Brodus push? You high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I pretty much agree with milamber across the board. I thought the matches were pretty solid. I was glad I bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TLC was so-so in my opinion. Awesome in wrestling but there are some dogs.<p> </p><p> And the best Diva Match of the Year was AJ vs. Kaitlyn at Payback, milamber.</p><p> </p><p> ''Brodus vs Truth - This better lead to a monster Brodus push or it has no place on a PPV.'' You crazy? Brodus push? You high? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> Brodus would make a pretty good monster heel. He has the size, he can get by in the ring (as a monster heel you're not expected to wrestle. You're expected to quickly destroy your opponents), and he has more charisma than a lot of the other monsters that WWE has tried to push over the last decade. I personally wouldn't mind seeing it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I wish they would have kept his NXT character. Essentially a monster heel who wore suits. It was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russelrules44 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 <p>What I hope for next year's WWE Royal Rumble</p><p> </p><p> BTW, Bold means winner</p><p> </p><p> Main Event</p><p> John Cena vs <strong>Randy Orton</strong> in a Special Ref Match (Hulk Hogan anyone?) for the title</p><p> </p><p> Uppercard</p><p> The Royal Rumble: Of course, The winner, <strong>Daniel Bryan</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Big E Langston</strong> vs Ryback for the IC title</p><p> </p><p> The Rhodes vs <strong>The Real Americans</strong> vs The Morphin' Truth for the Tag Team Titles</p><p> </p><p> Mid Card</p><p> <strong>AJ Lee</strong> vs Natalya vs Tamina for the Divas Title</p><p> </p><p> <strong>CM Punk</strong> vs The Shield</p><p> </p><p> Filler</p><p> <strong>Brodus Clay</strong> vs Tensai</p><p> </p><p> Pre Show:<strong> Los Matadores</strong> vs 3MB for the 1,000,000th time</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Like it?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 <p>I seriously hope that Bryan/Orton doesnt last to WM, their PPV matches were worse than all 7 of their televised matches this year.</p><p> </p><p> Punk/Cena</p><p> Brock/Taker</p><p> HHH/Bryan</p><p> Orton/Sheamus</p><p> </p><p> Should be the top 4 matches</p><p> </p><p> And Natalya is a very overrated wrestler btw</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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