Teh_Showtime Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Ziggles will be lost on Raw. Punk, Sheamus, and I don't see HHH and Orton both being face for long. He'd be better off on SD to feud with Morrison, and he is a top 3 Heel there already between Del Rio and Barrett. Unless Sheamus goes to SD, Ziggler will stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'd be shocked if Ziggler doesn't end up on Raw before Wrestlemania. Perhaps in a fued with John Morrison. And with Vickie getting fired from SD!, I have a terrible haunting feeling that she's going to end up being the anonymous Raw GM. I don't think they're going to do a MITB at Mania this year, but if they do I would definitely pick Morrison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 On a different note, just finished up jerichos lates book "undisputed". Wow, what a great read!!!! Jericho fans, its a must read, but a great read for wrestling fans too. I picked it up the other day, but I'm saving reading it for my vacation next week. Struggling to resisting the temptation to crack it open early. Loved his first book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Assuming the draft's looming, can't say for sure if Ziggler will be stalling or not. With the current roster, he probably would though. As for the salary discussion, I'd assume much like Cena, Rey has a percentage off his merch sales. There's not anything concrete behind the theory either but it could be a plausible caveat for the position/salary Rey's pegged to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Assuming the draft's looming, can't say for sure if Ziggler will be stalling or not. With the current roster, he probably would though. As for the salary discussion, I'd assume much like Cena, Rey has a percentage off his merch sales. There's not anything concrete behind the theory either but it could be a plausible caveat for the position/salary Rey's pegged to make. Is this the end of the Ziggler and Vickie "relationship" now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'd be shocked if Ziggler doesn't end up on Raw before Wrestlemania. Perhaps in a fued with John Morrison. And with Vickie getting fired from SD!, I have a terrible haunting feeling that she's going to end up being the anonymous Raw GM. I don't think they're going to do a MITB at Mania this year, but if they do I would definitely pick Morrison. I think if she was the anonymous GM she would not have been as distraught when she got the boot from Smackdown. Plus the Raw GM has been fairly level for the most part with regards to face/heel divide in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 TMZ is reporting Chris Jericho will be on Dancing with the Stars. Will that huge and supportive fans of wrestling audience push him to the top????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linsolv Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Are we still fighting about that? Of course I'm not going to support him in that. It prevents him from doing what he's best at. Come back to wrestling, Chris! I miss you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I could see Vickie being the RAW GM. Edge had a big rivalry against the Anonymous GM. Vickie had a history with Edge so of course she would pester him. Plus she didn't want people to know it was her so she tried to make unbiased decisions on purpose. I dunno honestly. No matter who ends up being the GM of RAW it will be a stretch at this point I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 TMZ is reporting Chris Jericho will be on Dancing with the Stars. Will that huge and supportive fans of wrestling audience push him to the top????? Of course they will, just like they did with his quiz show. Huge success that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 You can hide the lack of mic skills if you pair him with the right guy. I've noticed recently that Morrison can play a great wildman card, with the hair and beard. His match with Miz, the tag match against Nexus recently, he did'nt need to talk, he can just look pissed off and sell the fact that ass-kickings are about to occur. Let someone else talk. Make it really personal, then have Morrison go wildman on his ass. He's an afterthought right now. He's a 2D spot guy who jobs to the stars and gets little moments in multi-man matches, but he has potential to be a lot more. It just needs some creativity with his story and character development. I mean... I like Morrison, but I don't particularly care about him. Make me care, WWE. Except there's one problem.... Morrison isn't menacing enough to be Wild Man. I just can't see him as badass. He's too good looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 did you actually see it? the beard changes him from the clean cut guy into the wildman that does all kinda of crazy spots... potential storyline right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 did you actually see it? the beard changes him from the clean cut guy into the wildman that does all kinda of crazy spots... potential storyline right there. Except he's not menacing at all. He's just Morrison with a beard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEdgeOfReason Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Except he's not menacing at all. He's just Morrison with a beard. Did you see Raw a while ago when he had that match with I think The Miz and as it cut to commercial he was storming around outside the ring like a lunatic? He look pretty menacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Did you see Raw a while ago when he had that match with I think The Miz and as it cut to commercial he was storming around outside the ring like a lunatic? He look pretty menacing. Yes. Not really convinced. Edit: I just can't see being the "Sultan of Sexy" or whaterver they call him, AND being a crazy wild man. It just does not compute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yes. Not really convinced. Edit: I just can't see being the "Sultan of Sexy" or whaterver they call him, AND being a crazy wild man. It just compute. They did it with HBK once or twice... EDIT: Can we get rid of the stupid door escape bullshi- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Well, I have to dissagree with The Rock... He didn't really bring it. I think if it was live on the show it would have seemed alot better, but compared to his first little spat, and then compare that to Cena, whom I feel one upped him... This one come short of one upping Cena. Personally, I felt that the facebook picture was a better responce all by itself... that was a message without words. Looking forward to a better reaction hopefully live at some point (soon). I hope Cena responds, but I just don't feel that it was worth responding too (but I hope and think he will). The whole show was alright, but I was dissapointed with The Miz again. He isn't bringing it either, and now would be the perfect time for him to bring it. Use the voice that says "I'm AWESOME!" and actually get the crowd to boo him, instead of me picking up people laughing at him. I could see them using him more seriously in the future if he could get the reactions he was getting not all that long ago. Also... I swear I like Lawler as a character 20 times better then I did when he was in his prime, lol.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 They did it with HBK once or twice... EDIT: Can we get rid of the stupid door escape bullshi- Morrison don't look believable as a wild man though... There are moments, don't get me wrong. He has changed my mind about where I think he could get in card position, so I don't doubt that he won't one day to be able to pull off HBK type character's, but.... Right now he's not even half as talented.. First off, one day he needs to sound comfortable on the mic. He's improved drastically, and I don't see him as the kid playing grown up as I have in the past, but he still sounds nervous. A beard can't hide that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waghlon Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Punk seriously needs to get something done about that beard. Moments ago I realized he looks kinda like Randy friggin' Savage. He already got the beard and the staring. He just needs the hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 About the Rock... Didn't he leave 7 years ago when Vince McMahon was out with 2 torn quads? Didn't the Rocks contract expire without anyone in WWE realizing it? Anyone remember if that was what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 About the Rock... Didn't he leave 7 years ago when Vince McMahon was out with 2 torn quads? Didn't the Rocks contract expire without anyone in WWE realizing it? Anyone remember if that was what happened? It was a 'clerical error' and Rock decided not to have anything to do with them for a couple of years but they patched things up when WWE wanted to induct Rock's father and grandfather into their Hall of Fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 It was a 'clerical error' and Rock decided not to have anything to do with them for a couple of years but they patched things up when WWE wanted to induct Rock's father and grandfather into their Hall of Fame. Wasn't that the end of the Rock wrestling in WWE though? I know that he has done videos and inducted his grandpa and dad into the HoF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Wasn't that the end of the Rock wrestling in WWE though? I know that he has done videos and inducted his grandpa and dad into the HoF. Rock stopped wrestling after his tag match with Foley at Wrestlemania XX but he showed up once later in the year during the Diva Search. He was still with the company, contractually speaking, until the end of the year when the 'clerical error' happened and they parted ways for a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Rock stopped wrestling after his tag match with Foley at Wrestlemania XX but he showed up once later in the year during the Diva Search. He was still with the company, contractually speaking, until the end of the year when the 'clerical error' happened and they parted ways for a couple of years. Ok got ya. Just trying to figure out exactly how the end of his career (possibly first run) happened. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Well, I have to dissagree with The Rock... He didn't really bring it. I think if it was live on the show it would have seemed alot better, but compared to his first little spat, and then compare that to Cena, whom I feel one upped him... This one come short of one upping Cena. Personally, I felt that the facebook picture was a better responce all by itself... that was a message without words. Looking forward to a better reaction hopefully live at some point (soon). I hope Cena responds, but I just don't feel that it was worth responding too (but I hope and think he will). The whole show was alright, but I was dissapointed with The Miz again. He isn't bringing it either, and now would be the perfect time for him to bring it. Use the voice that says "I'm AWESOME!" and actually get the crowd to boo him, instead of me picking up people laughing at him. I could see them using him more seriously in the future if he could get the reactions he was getting not all that long ago. Also... I swear I like Lawler as a character 20 times better then I did when he was in his prime, lol.... Really? Because way I see it, Rock completely flattened Cena's main point from the beginning. He started going on about his family and his literal blood being within the WWE, and on top of that explained why he did what he did with Hollywood. Along with the coup de grace at the end, if that wasn't one-upping Cena, I don't know what will. Cena could use the live feed as an argument though, which he will more than likely do next week(or on twitter) With Rock's vow about being back, it was hard to predict that Rock's next apparition wouldn't be via satellite. He has a quota to fill with that promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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