Hive Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I honestly don't understand why anyone in their right mind would put Eric Bischoff in charge of their program in any way, shape, or form. I have never understood what made Bischoff so special other than two brilliant storylines (that he ended up ruining in the end btw, the nWo, and Hogan/Sting). I try to look at the positive sides of wrestling as much as possible, but TNA has no positives at all that I can point out to you. They have horrible storylines, good workers buried in short/idiotic gimmick matches, they killed the X-Divison, and they have three guys running the show who just don't know how to put on an entertaining wrestling program in this day and age, Bischoff, Hogan, and Russo. The WWE without a doubt has a ton of flaws today, but I would rather watch an hour long episode of Superstars than a TNA pay-per-view. I just don't understand how TNA manages to be so... bad with the talent they have. Amen to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BloodyKnuckles" data-cite="BloodyKnuckles" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I honestly don't understand why anyone in their right mind would put Eric Bischoff in charge of their program in any way, shape, or form. I have never understood what made Bischoff so special other than two brilliant storylines (that he ended up ruining in the end btw, the nWo, and Hogan/Sting).<p> </p><p> I try to look at the positive sides of wrestling as much as possible, but TNA has no positives at all that I can point out to you. They have horrible storylines, good workers buried in short/idiotic gimmick matches, they killed the X-Divison, and they have three guys running the show who just don't know how to put on an entertaining wrestling program in this day and age, Bischoff, Hogan, and Russo.</p><p> </p><p> The WWE without a doubt has a ton of flaws today, but I would rather watch an hour long episode of Superstars than a TNA pay-per-view. I just don't understand how TNA manages to be so... bad with the talent they have.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> You would think the roster would constantly be like hey morons up top do you not see what is wrong here? HELLO YOU SAY WRESTLING MATTERS BUT DON'T SHOW IT BY 2 and a half minute matches. Give us 10 minutes to work a match.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You would think the roster would constantly be like hey morons up top do you not see what is wrong here? HELLO YOU SAY WRESTLING MATTERS BUT DON'T SHOW IT BY 2 and a half minute matches. Give us 10 minutes to work a match.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Would they care though? 2 minutes = a lot less wear and tear on their bodies.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Would they care though? 2 minutes = a lot less wear and tear on their bodies.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Professional pride? You can work a good ten-minute match and not have to bump like crazy.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 The thing that is worst for me is that they have much potential, but i struggle to think based on the roster if it could get any worse, i believe any booker, even some people on here could run it to be more enjoyable,anexample most people would push x division, outof anyone whydoes it have to be them <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Professional pride? You can work a good ten-minute match and not have to bump like crazy.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They're in TNA. How much pride can they have when Hogan and Bischoff have 80% of the television time and Vince Russo is writing their scripts?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Would they care though? 2 minutes = a lot less wear and tear on their bodies.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because when you are a pro athlete or someone striving to be one you want to be the best. I would assume it's the same for pro wrestlers. I know some just want to get a paycheck but I am sure half those guys want to be better and get more exposure. Even out of the guys just wanting a paycheck have to realize it would benefit them if they got more on screen time in matches as it would make them more valuable if they worked matches instead of throwaway 2 minute "segments" as I call them.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They're in TNA. How much pride can they have when Hogan and Bischoff have 80% of the television time and Vince Russo is writing their scripts?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am not sure where you work or what you do but I am sure you have little to no control over who your boss is or how they do their job. It's the same for them. What is Amazing Red going to do with Hogan being in charge? He may still have pride in his work. Personal pride has nothing to do with who your boss is or what they do I feel.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 All Wheels Wrestling? lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 All Wheels Wrestling? lol... Russo should love this, what with all the swerves involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 So a tag match with female wrestlers means that wrestling doesn't matter? That sounds like more of a personal problem than a TNA problem.... I happen to love the Knockouts. It's the best women's wrestling in the US outside of SHIMMER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So a tag match with female wrestlers means that wrestling doesn't matter? That sounds like more of a personal problem than a TNA problem.... I happen to love the Knockouts. It's the best women's wrestling in the US outside of SHIMMER.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Who is saying they had problems with it being a Knockouts match? Personally, I had a problem with it being a tag match that was typically short and seemed to focus on one of the wrestlers doing a zombie gimmick. Male or female, that's stupid and approach wrestle-crap territory. Putting that match on right after Hogan's proclamation just reinforced, to me, what had I had assumed - that "wrestler matters" is just a tag line and means nothing to the direction and intent of TNA. </p><p> </p><p> I would love - LOVE - for TNA to prove otherwise. But I have zero faith. I have watched Impact just a few times since last October, when I simply gave up after hoping against hope for some positive change. I read about how TNA was promoting the show and figured I would give it another chance... A waste of time.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liontamer Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Who is saying they had problems with it being a Knockouts match? Personally, I had a problem with it being a tag match that was typically short and seemed to focus on one of the wrestlers doing a zombie gimmick. Male or female, that's stupid and approach wrestle-crap territory. Putting that match on right after Hogan's proclamation just reinforced, to me, what had I had assumed - that "wrestler matters" is just a tag line and means nothing to the direction and intent of TNA. <p> </p><p> I would love - LOVE - for TNA to prove otherwise. But I have zero faith. I have watched Impact just a few times since last October, when I simply gave up after hoping against hope for some positive change. I read about how TNA was promoting the show and figured I would give it another chance... A waste of time.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> so how was last weeks 2 min diva's tag on smackdown then? Not to mention it featured 4 relatively unknowns. Not to mention smackdown is a higher percentage of replays than any show I've ever seen, although it's better since WM ended. Prior to that it was basically a Raw rewind.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Because when you are a pro athlete or someone striving to be one you want to be the best. I would assume it's the same for pro wrestlers. I know some just want to get a paycheck but I am sure half those guys want to be better and get more exposure. Even out of the guys just wanting a paycheck have to realize it would benefit them if they got more on screen time in matches as it would make them more valuable if they worked matches instead of throwaway 2 minute "segments" as I call them. </div></blockquote> Besides green guys like Robbie E, Crimson in whom it's there best interest to work shorter matchess, there aren't that many people who need exposure. TNA, for all it's faults, has a very impressive and generally veteran roster of talents that are known across North America and Europe as well as internationally. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am not sure where you work or what you do but I am sure you have little to no control over who your boss is or how they do their job. It's the same for them. What is Amazing Red going to do with Hogan being in charge? He may still have pride in his work. Personal pride has nothing to do with who your boss is or what they do I feel.</div></blockquote><p> I'm a Law Student.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="liontamer" data-cite="liontamer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>so how was last weeks 2 min diva's tag on smackdown then? Not to mention it featured 4 relatively unknowns. Not to mention smackdown is a higher percentage of replays than any show I've ever seen, although it's better since WM ended. Prior to that it was basically a Raw rewind.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you trying to justify what TNA did with the Knockouts there by pointing to the WWE Diva's? The Diva's who are utterly interchangeable, have virtually no discernible character, and are essentially treated like a meaningless part of every show? </p><p> </p><p> There are tons of things wrong with the WWE, no doubt. But the WWE doing something poorly doesn't make it okay for TNA to do similar. And at least the WWE is honest when they make it clear they aren't about the wrestling. Wish they were, but they aren't. TNA says they are, but I am not seeing it. I actually appreciate the honesty of the WWE with their "entertainers".</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSwords Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I really don't understand TNA. A new promotion, All Wheels Wrestling, which would combine motorcross racing and professional wrestling, will be taping what I assume to be a pilot at the Impact Wrestling Zone in Orlando, Florida (aka Soundstage 21) at Universal Studios. The official release reads: All Wheels Wrestling debuts June 29th at Universal Studios This made for television event will appeal to both wrestling fans and motorsports enthusiasts alike. Come witness the high flying moves of some of the greatest pro wrestlers in the world as they battle it out in the ring in front of a live audience. Doors open at 6:30PM. Taping begins at 7:00PM. Taping held at Universal Studios' Soundstage 21. This is a non-ticketed event and seating is based on a first come first served basis. It is recommended to arrive one hour prior to doors open. Video cameras and audio recording equipment is not allowed. Show may cancel and schedules and/or audience requirements may alter at any time. http://pwinsider.com/article/58807/new-promotion-all-wheels-wrestling-taping-tv-at-impact-wrestling-zone-in-orlando.html?p=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 What does a new indy fed have to do with TNA? Just cuz it's being taped at Universal Studios? You are ============E (reaching) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 What does a new indy fed have to do with TNA? Just cuz it's being taped at Universal Studios? You are ============E (reaching) ALL WHEELS WRESTLING OWNED BY TNA By Mike Johnson on 2011-06-10 10:11:47 As noted earlier today, a taping for a new project titled "All Wheels Wrestling" will be held later this month at the Impact Zone in Orlando, Florida. The trademark and web domain for the terms "All Wheels Wrestling" are owned by different subsidiaries of TNA, so it would appear this is a new brand the promotion is looking into launching in some form. I hope to have more on this later. MOTWYW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Awesome opener between Shelley/Storm and British Invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunGBD Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 MOTWYW MOTWYW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 MOTWYW? Make of that what you will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECW 2.0 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 how is the ppv? Im watching game 6 nba and im going to catch a replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjohns44 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Was there live and I really enjoyed the event. My favorite matches were Gun Money vs. Britist Invasion, AJ Styles vs. Bully Ray, Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarhett and even enjoyed Mickie vs. Angelina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 how is the ppv? Im watching game 6 nba and im going to catch a replay. From what I have read, it seems that Bully Ray and AJ stole the show. Who would have thought that would be the case? Granted I did not see the PPV because I no longer buy any PPV for any company. I find reading about them is just as good and I am not out the arm and leg that companies charge for PPV's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charasmatic Enigma Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 From what I have read, it seems that Bully Ray and AJ stole the show. Who would have thought that would be the case? Granted I did not see the PPV because I no longer buy any PPV for any company. I find reading about them is just as good and I am not out the arm and leg that companies charge for PPV's now. Yeah, the AJ vs Bully Ray match was awesome. AJ really needs to get involved in the world title picture asap. Speaking of the World Title, wth was that finish? I mean first the dodgy count with Bischoff, and then as if that wasn't bad enough Anderson low blowed Sting... right in front of the referee. I mean it couldn't have been more obvious, or any more in the ref's view. I'm guessing they'll have some elaborate story where Bischoff has the ref's in his pocket or something, but... why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjohns44 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 From what I have read, it seems that Bully Ray and AJ stole the show. Who would have thought that would be the case? Granted I did not see the PPV because I no longer buy any PPV for any company. I find reading about them is just as good and I am not out the arm and leg that companies charge for PPV's now. with results posted online almost immediately and videos on youtube and torrents, it's way better than having to fork over 80 bucks a month for PPVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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