GatorBait19 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5366254 So apparently Cliff Lee is about to be traded to the Yankees. That's a ridiculously good rotation. It's whatever. The M's wanted Davis or Hellickson plus Jennings. I'm happy the Rays backed out of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Is it too soon for someone in South Florida to say that the Yankees getting Lee and possibly Werth would be noxious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 If the Yankees get Cliff Lee it will be great! That would be one awsome rotation, and they are going to need it because it does not look like the Devil Rays or the injury-ridden Red Sox are going to be going away any time soon. The Red Sox really scare me because they have been plagued with injuries this season and yet they are still managing to hang around at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 If the Yankees get Cliff Lee it will be great! That would be one awsome rotation, and they are going to need it because it does not look like the Devil Rays or the injury-ridden Red Sox are going to be going away any time soon. The Red Sox really scare me because they have been plagued with injuries this season and yet they are still managing to hang around at the top. I know it sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Now it looks like the Cliff Lee trade has hit a snag and the Rangers might step in and get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaynes23 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 ESPNews is saying that the Rangers have gotten Cliff Lee for Justin Smoak and three other minor leaguers. It'll be cool to see what the Rangers can do with a solid ace, they've never really had the pitching to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Now it looks like the Cliff Lee trade has hit a snag and the Rangers might step in and get him. Good. I don't need any more reason to root against the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 ESPNews is saying that the Rangers have gotten Cliff Lee for Justin Smoak and three other minor leaguers. It'll be cool to see what the Rangers can do with a solid ace, they've never really had the pitching to do it. nice move for the Ranger. Smoak was a good prospect, but so is Chris Davis still. Ranger still need to figure out ownership issues and quick. I guess the Mariners saw this as hey they won't be able to retain Lee anyways. I hope they are right because it would suck for them to have to face him 5 to 6 times a year in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Sucks though the Phil's didn't keep him. Could you imagne that rotation today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 ESPNews is saying that the Rangers have gotten Cliff Lee for Justin Smoak and three other minor leaguers. It'll be cool to see what the Rangers can do with a solid ace, they've never really had the pitching to do it. I always thought that the reason why they could never attract an ace (well besides Nolan Ryan) down there was because pitchers have a hard time with the heat. Maybe I am wrong on this but I remember somebody talking about that once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I always thought that the reason why they could never attract an ace (well besides Nolan Ryan) down there was because pitchers have a hard time with the heat. Maybe I am wrong on this but I remember somebody talking about that once. That could be a reason, but also that park is horrible for pitchers. Rich Harden has ace type stuff, injuries have really derailed his career, but he went there. Kevin Millwood is another one of those guys who had ace type stuff who had some of his worst ERA's when he was in texas. The Heat may play a factor, but pitcher don't do to much movement to kill their fatigue with the heat. I believe the biggest reason big time pitchers don't go there is because that ballpark is a hitters play house. I'm not saying Lee's number will go up big time, because he has put his ace type stuff together to become that big ace. We will have to wait and see how he ends though Here are his stats at the time of the trade. 13 games started, 8-3, 2.34 ERA, 89 SO, 6 BB, 5 HR's, .231 BAA, .95 WHIP, 5 CG, 1 Shutout, 91 hits, 31R, 27 ER, 103.2 innings. with 109.2 pitches avg per game. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=5353 now we can come back to this link at the end of the year and compare. If they are higher then I will short out his Home vs Away stuff to see how much of a difference it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i effin rule Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Surprised this hadn't been mentioned yet. Steinbrenner had a heart attack, was taken to St. Joseph's Hospital in Tampa, Fla., and died at about 6:30 a.m. ET, according to multiple reports. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5375561 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Surprised this hadn't been mentioned yet. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5375561 As much as I hate the Yankees, I still live in Tampa where George has done a lot of stuff for the community. I had the privilege to meet him and he was just a stand up guy. Sad day in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 13, 2010 Author Share Posted July 13, 2010 Surprised this hadn't been mentioned yet. http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5375561 I was, I just had not had the chance to post it yet. As much as I hate the Yankees, I still live in Tampa where George has done a lot of stuff for the community. I had the privilege to meet him and he was just a stand up guy. Sad day in baseball. He took a franchise that had fallen on rough times, thanks in part to the poor ownership of CBS, and he brought it back to being the premier franchise in all of baseball (and maybe even in all of sports). Sure he did a lot of things wrong like the whole Billy Martin deal and the Dave Winfield situation. However, I believe the good that he did for the team outweighs the bad. RIP George. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 He took a franchise that had fallen on rough times, thanks in part to the poor ownership of CBS, and he brought it back to being the premier franchise in all of baseball (and maybe even in all of sports). Sure he did a lot of things wrong like the whole Billy Martin deal and the Dave Winfield situation. However, I believe the good that he did for the team outweighs the bad. RIP George. Thing is that all the bad stuff he did was public, was usually his own voice, whereas the good stuff he did, he did privately. I saw a quote earlier, where he said something to the extent of "my father once told me that if you do something for someone, and two or more people know about it, you did it for the wrong reason." I may not have always agreed with the man's decisions, and some of the choices he made in life weren't the best by any measure, but what he's done for the pinstripes, for baseball, and for the communities in New York and Tampa can't be ignored. Gonna miss the Boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Thing is that all the bad stuff he did was public, was usually his own voice, whereas the good stuff he did, he did privately. I saw a quote earlier, where he said something to the extent of "my father once told me that if you do something for someone, and two or more people know about it, you did it for the wrong reason." I may not have always agreed with the man's decisions, and some of the choices he made in life weren't the best by any measure, but what he's done for the pinstripes, for baseball, and for the communities in New York and Tampa can't be ignored. Gonna miss the Boss. My boss and I were talking to talking today and joking around about old George stories. He said that George always did things on his term (baseball wise) and didn't care who didn't agree. He then said jokingly that "Only George would die on a day when 5 players started for the AL team from two cities that he contributed so much to. Only George could take away from the all-star game and of course only George could make people see with all the stuff he pulled in the lime-light, only he could be discreet enough to be known as one of the most caring men to ever grace New York and Tampa. George The Boss may have died today, but he did it on his terms." Now my boss wasn't saying George planned to have a heartattack. He was just saying George went out on a day where baseball wasn't focused on team rivalries, but more of putting on a showcase for the fans. George one of the biggest showmen ever went out when the whole nation was focused just on baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5386264 wow just a crazy story. First the team publicist threw his team under the bus, then when asked if we was the one who sets up the travel plans for the players he said yes...... So now I am confused, when did the title of team publicist also come to include making travel plans for the team? Last thing a publicist is supposed to protect his team and players. This didn't do that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100719&content_id=12400928&vkey=news_tb&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb good for Rocco. I remember watching him develop people were comparing him to Joe Dimaggio. He was a solid fielder and hitter with above avg speed. Injuries really derailed his career. At 28 he could still become a good role player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100719&content_id=12400928&vkey=news_tb&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb good for Rocco. I remember watching him develop people were comparing him to Joe Dimaggio. He was a solid fielder and hitter with above avg speed. Injuries really derailed his career. At 28 he could still become a good role player. I know someone who played on the same team with him in I believe it was American Legion Ball (That could be wrong.) and said that Rocco was a jerk who always let his hype get to his head. Now I do not know him personally, I am just going by what someone else said about him. Heck he is considered a god here in Rhode Island. If he was a jerk hopefully he has matured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I know someone who played on the same team with him in I believe it was American Legion Ball (That could be wrong.) and said that Rocco was a jerk who always let his hype get to his head. Now I do not know him personally, I am just going by what someone else said about him. Heck he is considered a god here in Rhode Island. If he was a jerk hopefully he has matured. I got to sit in on the interview he had with my boss when he came back to Tampa at the start of this year. He was polite and just came off well, he even invited us to join him for lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 I got to sit in on the interview he had with my boss when he came back to Tampa at the start of this year. He was polite and just came off well, he even invited us to join him for lunch. Could be just a case of him growing up. Also, maybe because of all of the set backs he has had, he realizes he will not have the career he thought he was going to have. I have nothing against him, I have never met him, so I don't know. I was just going by what I have heard about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Could be just a case of him growing up. Also, maybe because of all of the set backs he has had, he realizes he will not have the career he thought he was going to have. I have nothing against him, I have never met him, so I don't know. I was just going by what I have heard about him. that could be true, I never met him before this year so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 that could be true, I never met him before this year so who knows. Forgot to tell people that I saw Mo Vaughn a couple of days ago at the gas station that he owns on Route One in Massachusetts. I always liked Mo (despite the fact that he played for Boston), and he was always a real nice guy. I remember when he played in Pawtucket, he was always nice to the fans and always willing to give autographs to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 <p>I am a little shocked that Gator did not say anything about this yet. Mark Cuban might be buying the Rangers.<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Ted_Turner" rel="external nofollow">I wonder if he would pull a Ted Turner and try to manage the team.</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaynes23 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 <p><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100725&content_id=12626212&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb" rel="external nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100725&content_id=12626212&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb</a></p><p> </p><p> Big move for the Angels today, they traded for Dan Haren from Arizona. The race in the West could turn out to be very good.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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