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[lazorbeak]

This was just a joke post but it looks like Mercenary Phil might just prove me right. Yes I know they are a 2-4 team but that is not going to last, they are a deep playoff team and if Phil thinks he can win another championship he will come out of retirement.

 

Whoops I guess Phil decided he couldn't win a championship this year!

 

Taking off the tinfoil hat, this is looking to be an exciting season. While the Heat have proven they can play at an elite level, this team is not nearly as dominant game to game as previous champs, since at their worst they turn into a jump shooting team and their defense has been spotty at best so far. You really have to wonder why they chose to add a bunch more wing shooters and nobody to replace/work with Haslem and spell Bosh.

 

The Clippers, Grizzlies, Spurs, and Thunder all look like real contenders right now, while the East is about as bad as its ever been. It should end up being an interesting season.

[Killagy]

Whoops I guess Phil decided he couldn't win a championship this year!

 

Actually, Phil never rejected the job. The Lakers' VP/Co-Owner Jim Buss, Jerry's son, actually made the decision out of the blue, surprising everyone and and the Laker fanbase because everyone including the media thought Phil was a shoe-in to return. The contract negotiation was going to close this past Monday through Phil's agent. But when Jim Buss suddenly announced the hiring of D'Antoni, even Phil was surprised he said. Definitely a head scratcher, and in the words of Magic Johnson:

 

"I love Dr. [Jerry] Buss. I don't believe in Jim Buss. He's made two critical mistakes already. To me, they made two critical mistakes," Johnson said. "First, hiring Mike Brown, he wasn't the right coach. He's a great coach but not the right coach for the Lakers. And I don't feel Mike D'Antoni is the right coach for the Lakers. Especially when you have Phil Jackson sitting out there, who wanted to be the Laker coach. Jim Buss decided he didn't want Phil Jackson, he wanted Mike D'Antoni. And that's OK, but why didn't you just say that? But the fans were cheering for Phil Jackson two nights in a row."

[lazorbeak]

Actually, Phil never rejected the job. The Lakers' VP/Co-Owner Jim Buss, Jerry's son, actually made the decision out of the blue, surprising everyone and and the Laker fanbase because everyone including the media thought Phil was a shoe-in to return. The contract negotiation was going to close this past Monday through Phil's agent. But when Jim Buss suddenly announced the hiring of D'Antoni, even Phil was surprised he said. Definitely a head scratcher, and in the words of Magic Johnson:

 

I know, I was responding to BHK's "Mercenary Phillip" theory that he coaches only when he knows he can win a championship.

[bigtplaystew]

We're starting to wonder if we're actually going to see Bynum play here in philly...

[BHK1978]

Actually, Phil never rejected the job. The Lakers' VP/Co-Owner Jim Buss, Jerry's son, actually made the decision out of the blue, surprising everyone and and the Laker fanbase because everyone including the media thought Phil was a shoe-in to return. The contract negotiation was going to close this past Monday through Phil's agent. But when Jim Buss suddenly announced the hiring of D'Antoni, even Phil was surprised he said. Definitely a head scratcher, and in the words of Magic Johnson:

 

Yeah Lazorbeak decides to come up from under his bridge every so often to take a pot shot at me (That is when he is not pretending to be a mod in the WWE thread.) but it makes him feel like a grown up to argue over trivial stuff on the internet. That way he can brag about "winning" those arguments.

 

From what I read, Phil priced himself out of the job. He was asking for too much power and that was something that the Lakers were just not willing to give to him.

[lazorbeak]

Yeah Lazorbeak decides to come up from under his bridge every so often to take a pot shot at me (That is when he is not pretending to be a mod in the WWE thread.) but it makes him feel like a grown up to argue over trivial stuff on the internet. That way he can brag about "winning" those arguments.

 

From what I read, Phil priced himself out of the job. He was asking for too much power and that was something that the Lakers were just not willing to give to him.

 

Yup, because having any dialogue= "taking a pot shot." You are precious.

[BHK1978]

Took you off block so that I could read your response. This will be the last comment I make on this because I know how you love to stalk threads and keep arguments going for days and that is not something that I am willing to do.

 

Yup, because having any dialogue= "taking a pot shot." You are precious.

 

No having a dialogue is not taking a pot shot at me. Implying that I am crazy because I have an opinion that does not agree with your opinion, much like you did in this post:

 

Taking off the tinfoil hat, this is looking to be an exciting season.

 

Is taking a pot shot at me.

[Derek B]

*Puts on a modhat, incidentally made of tinfoil*

 

So, after Adam recently stepped into one of the other threads, I think it was the WWE thread, to put a stop to this kind of bickering, I'm going to step in here. I don't pay any attention to basketball and I don't care about it, but there are enough posters getting close to losing posting privileges that if I don't remind people about it then things might start getting quiet. So either play nice, or you won't be allowed to play at all in future. And I'm saying that now based under the assumption that Adam doesn't check out his email to see this thread being reported and do more about it than I just have.

 

*removes mod hat to let the regular crazy voices back in*

[Psycho Sam]

Yep, it was the WWE thread.

 

*Awaits banning*

[Killagy]

Did anyone really see that sort of potential from MCW (Michael Carter-Williams) seriously, let alone that debut?? He nearly had a damn quadruple double! O.o

[TheBooker]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Killagy" data-cite="Killagy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27836" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Did anyone really see that sort of potential from MCW (Michael Carter-Williams) seriously, let alone that debut?? He nearly had a damn quadruple double! O.o</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I saw that in his stat line didnt see much of the game due to the Cavs-Nets going on at the exact same time but MCW looks good for the Sixers.</p>

[BHK1978]

<p>I read an article on off Yahoo the other day talking about how the writer does not believe that the Celtics are tanking their season in order to get a good draft pick. I found myself agreeing with the writer. Not for their reason which was athletes are too competitive to do such a thing.</p><p> </p><p>

I agree that the Celtics are not going to intentionally tank their season but it has nothing to do with them being too competitive. It has more to do with them being a lousy team after they got rid of their aging superstar players and now they have no other choice but to lose.</p><p> </p><p>

Every team must rebuild at some point so I have no problem with that. As a fan I hope they do tank their season so they can get an impact player that can make them a contender once again.</p>

[3rdStringPG]

<p>Looks like there's no tanking, though, for the Sixers and the Suns! Both teams have really surprised me so far, though anything can happen after those fast starts. Aside from MCW, Spencer Hawes is playing the best basketball of his career (and proving to be a real find for me in fantasy basketball), while the Suns have Eric Bledsoe, Markieff Morris and (surprise, surprise) Miles Plumlee primed for breakout seasons as well. </p><p> </p><p>

It's too early to say for sure, but Anthony Bennett and Alex Len are looking like potential epic busts. MCW and Victor Oladipo, on the other hand, appear to be prime candidates for Rookie of the Year.</p><p> </p><p>

(Also, seeing as this was one of the first threads I ever posted in on the GDS forums, I'm curious if there's anyone else who believes Mike D'Antoni must go as Lakers coach. I do - his coaching style is dated, and the Lakers need someone who can teach them defense while doing a better job of undoing their chemistry problems from last year.)</p>

[BHK1978]

<p>Am I the only one that hopes the NBA forces Donald Sterling to sell the Clippers to Magic Johnson?</p><p> </p><p>

I often wondered why they are in LA anyway. I mean I do not live out there but I always thought it was clear that LA was the Lakers town and that the Clippers were a mere afterthought.</p><p> </p><p>

I say move the Clippers to Kansas City, Pittsburgh, or St. Louis. Yes I know the NBA have had teams their in the past and they have all failed but it just seems odd to me that Pittsburgh and St. Louis have Football, Hockey, and Baseball teams and yet no NBA teams.</p>

[michgcs]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27836" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Am I the only one that hopes the NBA forces Donald Sterling to sell the Clippers to Magic Johnson?<p> </p><p> I often wondered why they are in LA anyway. I mean I do not live out there but I always thought it was clear that LA was the Lakers town and that the Clippers were a mere afterthought.</p><p> </p><p> I say move the Clippers to Kansas City, Pittsburgh, or St. Louis. Yes I know the NBA have had teams their in the past and they have all failed but it just seems odd to me that Pittsburgh and St. Louis have Football, Hockey, and Baseball teams and yet no NBA teams.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Let's say Magic does indeed buy the Clippers, do you think he'd move the team? Magic's a Hollywood guy, through and through, so I doubt that'll happen (much as I want the NBA to reduce the number of California teams)</p>

[BHK1978]

He would not move it. I was just saying that I think they should be moved to another market.

[michgcs]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27836" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He would not move it. I was just saying that I think they should be moved to another market.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't disagree <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I would love for Seattle to get a team back, and it's not like the people of LA would miss the Clippers too much... right? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I mean, they HAVE the Lakers!</p>

[Capelli King]

Lamarcus is on fire

[masterded]

He would not move it. I was just saying that I think they should be moved to another market.

 

I don't disagree I would love for Seattle to get a team back, and it's not like the people of LA would miss the Clippers too much... right? I mean, they HAVE the Lakers!

 

Though I would love to see Seattle get a team again the Clippers will never move and when Sterling does sell (though it could be quite some time if he uses the courts to try and stop any NBA sanctions) it will go for a billion dollars easy. Why a billion dollars because it is in LA and the Bucks just sold for 550 million with a contractual agreement to not move the team (though if a new stadium isn't in construction by 2017 the same contract says the NBA will buy the team from the new owners). If a team in Milwaukee is worth $550 million than even the 2nd team in LA is worth an easy billion.

 

How sad is it you finally get punished for being a horrible person and your reward is going to be turning a 12 million dollar investment into a billion dollar pay day?

[The Swanton825]

How sad is it you finally get punished for being a horrible person and your reward is going to be turning a 12 million dollar investment into a billion dollar pay day?

 

*Sniff* The beauty of Los Angeles.

[BHK1978]

Not much to say except that I was so happy when the Spurs won. Such a great franchise, I love how in the NBA a small market team can do so well.

[Capelli King]

<p>Yeah i was really happy to see Duncan get his 5th. I heard Ginoblli is thinking of retiring in the next 2 years max, so it would be good if the "big 3" can stick around for at least one title.</p><p> </p><p>

To be honest i think the new generation of Green, Mills, Diaw (although he is not that young), Leonard, where the main reason why they won the finals this year. Parker was not much of a factor after the first couple of games, Ginobli was good and Duncan was solid, but it was the supporting crew which did the job. </p><p> </p><p>

I would go as far as saying that a team of Thiago, Diaw, Leonard, Green, Mills, with 3 solid backups to replace the big 3 could have won the title this year. The big 3 made over 30m this year, so that is more than enough to get in 3-4 strong players or 1 star and 2-3 backups. My point is that the Spurs are no longer a "big 3" team. I think they rely less on any 3 players than any team in the league now.</p>

[BHK1978]

I think that is why I was so glad to see them win, because they played team basketball. That is a tough thing to sell your players on doing especially in the NBA where an individual can really dominate in a game.

[lazorbeak]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Capelli King" data-cite="Capelli King" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27836" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah i was really happy to see Duncan get his 5th. I heard Ginoblli is thinking of retiring in the next 2 years max, so it would be good if the "big 3" can stick around for at least one title.<p> </p><p> To be honest i think the new generation of Green, Mills, Diaw (although he is not that young), Leonard, where the main reason why they won the finals this year. Parker was not much of a factor after the first couple of games, Ginobli was good and Duncan was solid, but it was the supporting crew which did the job. </p><p> </p><p> I would go as far as saying that a team of Thiago, Diaw, Leonard, Green, Mills, with 3 solid backups to replace the big 3 could have won the title this year. The big 3 made over 30m this year, so that is more than enough to get in 3-4 strong players or 1 star and 2-3 backups. My point is that the Spurs are no longer a "big 3" team. I think they rely less on any 3 players than any team in the league now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They're a great example of a whole being more than the sum of their parts. There's holes in all of their key player's games, but fortunately they don't have to play 1 on 1 for the championship. Parker and Ginobli don't have to be shut-down defensive aces since the Spurs generally have either Duncan or Splitter behind them to affect shots (and Leonard can always switch to a team's best player), and the fact that only a few players can create off the dribble is balanced by their great movement and passing that creates opportunities for guys like Green to catch and shoot. It's been great to watch the past few years, and I hope that people have finally realized how not true the "Spurs are boring" talk has been for the past five years or so. I don't hate the Heat, but it was nice to see them just run into a buzz saw, as their energetic defense worked against them and they just looked gassed in every 4th quarter.</p>

[BHK1978]

In regards to the whole David Blatt situation. it looks like the inmates are running the asylum there in Cleveland.