justtxyank Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Do you like wrestlecrap? Seems like an odd question I know, but I noticed recently when I was playing TEW again for the first time in a long time that I book wrestlecrap. Intentionally. I'm playing a 1994 WCW game and I created Shark. I signed Ray Llyod to do the Glacier gimmick. I know the gimmicks were terrible, but for some reason I have a nostalgic feel good feeling about them. So I book them. So, when you look back on wrestlecrap, do you think "Man I wish that had never happened" or do you smile warmly and say "Yeah it was crap, but it was my crap!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleisch Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Yeah some gimmicks were REALLY crap, but some were entertainingly so! I look back at some with fond memories because they made me laugh, or were able to make me suspend belief, unlike todays crop of generic wrestlers who bore the bejeezus outta me! Or wrestlers who spoof a TV show I've never heard of until 5 minutes ago to see what the hell I just watched. lol I wanna see a Clown fight a pissed off Hawaiin damn it! Or a Ugandan in a loin cloth fighting a Greasy "Bad Guy"! Bad wrestling, yes, but entertaining as f*** because the gimmicks were laughable and entertaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 There's a difference between true "crap" (The Johnsons from TNA's early days) to a delightfully cartoonish, over the top character (Doink the Clown, Curry Man). Entertainment based wrestling should never, ever take itself too seriously and "wrestlecrap" helps keep it in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I've always hated the term 'wrestlecrap'. It's such a negative term for something subjective. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Maybe you thought Glacier was crap. Maybe I thought he was totally bad ass. I'd never call that crap. (Actually I didn't much care for Glacier, but that's not the point.) I like some wackiness in my undercard. Just because a character isn't a serious title contender doesn't mean it doesn't have value. Mainstream wrestling is a variety show. Can't be all trapeze and lion tamers. Gotta have some clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I'm down with some wrestlecrap if it's just kind of goofy, funny, a failed or ill-thought out gimmick or concept. The only time it bothers me is when it's stupidly offensive (Katie Vick style) or it embarrasses a worker who is capable of much better things. I think some of the less talented in-ring workers should always be given weird or amusing gimmicks to try to help them get over or at least give them some entertainment value and I am a HUGE fan of the comedy jobber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Who wouldn't love Beaver Cleavage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I'm down with some wrestlecrap if it's just kind of goofy, funny, a failed or ill-thought out gimmick or concept. The only time it bothers me is when it's stupidly offensive (Katie Vick style) or it embarrasses a worker who is capable of much better things. I think some of the less talented in-ring workers should always be given weird or amusing gimmicks to try to help them get over or at least give them some entertainment value and I am a HUGE fan of the comedy jobber. I agree and would ad what where they thinking stuff on the level of Jenna Morasca vs Sharmell. Cody Deaner, Hornswaggle vs Chavo etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladamire Dracos Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I agree with BurningHamster, I'm fine with poorly thought out, followed through, or purposely funny gimmicks. It's stuff that's stupidly offensive (Katie Vick) or insults the wrestler involved (Samba Simba anyone?) that I don't like. In TEW I actually like to sometimes take a "wrestlecrap moment" and rebook it to try to turn it into a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alden Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I love the website. It is always a good laugh for me. It brings back alot of good stuff. I am under the impression you are talking about the web page by the way. If not never mind lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJaguar Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 One man's trash is another man's treasure. QFT! By definition some of the best ideas would be wrestlecrap...Adrian Adonis, Gorgeous George, George the Animal Steel, every charecter ever played by Ed Leslie! Would wrestling be were it's at if not for the Kamalas? The Repo Mans? Men? Whatever...Point is when I was watching wrestling as a child none of it was wrestlecrap! I loved the goofy bits more than the serious stuff. Wrestling was fun once, now its Bland Worker A vs Bad Ass recycled gimmick B ad nauseum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 How about an undead zombie fighting a demon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJaguar Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Or a guy imitating an undead zombie fighting for justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 On a technical basis, Kane, Goldust, Val Venis are Wrestlecrap, as gimmicks. But the workers in these gimmicks are so damn good it's not. Seriously, Dustin Rhodes is incredible as that creepy uncle who's in drag that may or may not be homosexual/bisexual/asexual/just plain weird. He wears a gold/black suit to the ring, with a blonde wig. Kane's gimmick that's he the brorther of the Undertaker. He somehow shoots fire at the ring corners. Val Venis is porn star who decided to wrestle. For what reason? Who knows? All of these should have been Wrestlecrap. But they just worked. They shouldn't, but they did. Goldust in particular has particularly long-shelf life, despite just being a really, really hard gimmick to do. Had a surprisingly good tag team with Booker T. If anyone other than Dustin Rhodes did Goldust, it would have definitely been Wrestlecrap... except maybe William Regal. But Regal can do almost anything. Goldust, Kane, and Val Venis are proofs that you can hit JACKPOT in the weirdest of places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Who can forget Kurt Angle passing out condoms in a mall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Who can forget Kurt Angle passing out condoms in a mall? No he wasn't, he was preaching abstinence in the mall while feuding with The Big Show... who showed up with condoms and a megaphone exclaiming "Coat the hide, enjoy the ride!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Val Venis is porn star who decided to wrestle. For what reason? Who knows? I always wondered that about a lot of the gimmicks in WWE that were based on occupations. I wonder why real life porn star Chocoball Mukai became a wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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