SWF: Where Men Become LEGENDS

[mitsukaikira]

I always saw Big Cat as Rhino. Animalistic and brutal and mostly out for himself. I'm stoked to see what you can do with Val. If there's a writer here that can turn him from bland babyface into something interesting, it's you. I ended up turning him heel in my private game and it's been... interesting. He's now a 94 pop worldwide and the top heel in SWF. I created a gimmick just for Val, The Spurned Hero. It's a heel-leaning tweener but I had him give up his moral code and don a black singlet ala Sting. He uses his "Equalizer" in every match; that being a billy club he uses on the people "holding him back" and "trying to force him to be something he isn't." Which is to say, everyone.

[mitsukaikira]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And speaking of the reporter thing, it would be awesome to see some shoot interviews with some of these characters. I can totally imagine Jack Bruce being like Kevin Nash "Sure he's the boss' son but I gotta f'n beat the best heel in the company then turnaround and work house shows with a guy who doesn't give a crap cause he's set for life. Meanwhile my arm's got no feeling, my wife's screamin at me about a broken dryer, and I gotta get 20 minutes out of a guy Cornell couldn't get 10 outta... but it's the main event, I'm drunk, and I gotta get paid man..." <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh man, that would be PRICELESS. Rich Money dropping kayfabe to become his mouth-breathing redneck self totally shooting on someone like Randy Bumfhole.</p>

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always saw Big Cat as Rhino. Animalistic and brutal and mostly out for himself.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Oh, I </div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">love</span></strong></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"> that comparison. Really fits well. Good call.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm stoked to see what you can do with Val. If there's a writer here that can turn him from bland babyface into something interesting, it's you. I ended up turning him heel in my private game and it's been... interesting. He's now a 94 pop worldwide and the top heel in SWF. I created a gimmick just for Val, The Spurned Hero. It's a heel-leaning tweener but I had him give up his moral code and don a black singlet ala Sting. He uses his "Equalizer" in every match; that being a billy club he uses on the people "holding him back" and "trying to force him to be something he isn't." Which is to say, everyone.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Thank you for the vote of confidence, Mit!</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> I'm going with a Dark Knight form of storytelling with Val. Realistic. Strong. Layers. etc. In the end, if everything goes the way I'm hoping, it could really create a scenario for which Valiant is the, far and away, biggest creation in this project. Fingers crossed it progresses as I hope and nothing gets in the way.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> As for your take, love the perspective with Val. The 'Equalizer' tells of a man who's gone completely back on any sense of code. He'd be a heel you'd love to hate. </div><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh man, that would be PRICELESS. Rich Money dropping kayfabe to become his mouth-breathing redneck self totally shooting on someone like Randy Bumfhole.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My wish with Valiant was always to turn him heel to see if that would give him a new dimension before turning him face again but if memory serves, he sucks as a heel.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">He does suck as a heel but that can be worked on. From what it sounds like, people's ability to play a specific disposition can develop much like an actual skill in the ring. Great addition there! Makes someone like Val capable of becoming a major heel.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I actually like the idea that Faith says "You're not ready." It's another example of logic based characters and storytelling. Too often it's just boom he's this guy now. No logical evolution of the character. Everything ties together here and if Faith does eventually embrace him later, it'll mean so much more than if he had just let him in with no build up.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Exactly. I'm looking for the logical perspective with some momentary bells and whistles at times. I really want to 'tell the story of Valiant' rather than just book him. He's too important of a character, and means too much to the SWF, not to!</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for Gino, that explanation works for me. Really, it was just a "Aww but I like him!" reaction.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Totally. I love Gino myself too. I just wish he came in a little more over. </div><img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Because he didn't, he was fed to the new monster on the scene.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And speaking of the reporter thing, it would be awesome to see some shoot interviews with some of these characters. I can totally imagine Jack Bruce being like Kevin Nash "Sure he's the boss' son but I gotta f'n beat the best heel in the company then turnaround and work house shows with a guy who doesn't give a crap cause he's set for life. Meanwhile my arm's got no feeling, my wife's screamin at me about a broken dryer, and I gotta get 20 minutes out of a guy Cornell couldn't get 10 outta... but it's the main event, I'm drunk, and I gotta get paid man..." <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh man, that would be PRICELESS. Rich Money dropping kayfabe to become his mouth-breathing redneck self totally shooting on someone like Randy Bumfhole.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Kevin Nash is the KING of shoot interviews. He's my favorite person to listen to (he and Austin). There's a possibility, at later points, if a specific wrestler does a 'shoot' (in-game) then I could take that a step further and actually write up a shoot interview w/ that wrestler via Powerhouse news or something. Could add a new realm to this all. Actually, yea, I like that idea. Thanks for the insight!</div><p></p>

[Ladron Del Alma]

<p>You're welcome. I love Nash, Austin, Cornette, and Heyman's shoots. They're either insightful or at least funny as hell. I nearly pissed myself listening to Nash talk about the Kliq strike.</p><p> </p><p>

I too love the Rhino comparison. That's the perfect way to look at him. My biggest concern about booking a guy like that would be ending up Goldberging them instead of pushing both their character and their wrestling. While Goldberg got over with the streak, to me it felt like after awhile he became the streak instead of a character that I could relate to. I actually found myself watching more to see if he would lose rather than rooting for him to win. Rhino was pushed more realistically and with more character than "ohmygodhe'samonster!"</p><p> </p><p>

As for Val, it's actually a sad thing that a guy who's actually pretty good in the ring and on the mic, so bloody boring. If he were real, Vince would make him lose to Hornswaggle every week and have him dance like a goof.</p>

[Psycho Sam]

<p>You actually fired Bruce? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Great job. I was hoping he would be out of the company, possibly to start up WAR instead of Stallings. You have my thanks. :-D</span></p>

[Iceisle]

<p>Personally I love Valiant's 'pure babyface' sort of vibe. Sure, it's easy to see him as being a bit too generic, but what makes him slightly generic in the overall world of wrestling actually makes him pretty unique in the SWF environment.</p><p> </p><p>

The way most people seem to write these characters, including myself, there's no one else (at least near the top of the card) who is truly motivated to do the right thing above all else. The top faces aren't exactly role models. As Eisen-verse is highlighting in this story (expertly, I might add <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />), even a guy like Christian Faith has a pretty clear edge to him.</p><p> </p><p>

The only other people I can see playing clean cut faces as well as Valiant are Des Davids and maybe the Bumfholes, but there are usually other things to be done with those characters. Valiant might not be as versatile, but IMO every promotion can make use of a classic good guy, especially at the top of the card. I have more fun trying to add some depth to that character than I did when I tried to turn him into something that I found more interesting on the surface. Just my opinion, of course.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyway, keep up the great work Eisen-verse. Can't wait to see what happens next, especially with the Warzone Cell and Jack Bruce storylines.</p>

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're welcome. I love Nash, Austin, Cornette, and Heyman's shoots. They're either insightful or at least funny as hell. I nearly pissed myself listening to Nash talk about the Kliq strike.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">My thoughts exactly on the Kliq strike. I've been listening to Austin's podcast lately and they covered that in that interview as well. He's a unique guy; Kevin Nash. Really has a business-look on the sport & is pretty candid about it.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I too love the Rhino comparison. That's the perfect way to look at him. My biggest concern about booking a guy like that would be ending up Goldberging them instead of pushing both their character and their wrestling. While Goldberg got over with the streak, to me it felt like after awhile he became the streak instead of a character that I could relate to. I actually found myself watching more to see if he would lose rather than rooting for him to win. Rhino was pushed more realistically and with more character than "ohmygodhe'samonster!"</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Easiest way to make someone NOT Goldberg but still have them as a brutish fighter? Give him an actual character. As you said, Goldberg became the streak with time. There really wasn't a storyline outside of that. It wasn't until he started to butt heads with the nWo that some storylines formed and, at that time, we had gone too far past to really 'care' about him past a win/loss. If you make it all about the win/loss eventually they won't mean anything to the roster as they WILL lose at some point. </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> With Big Cat, not only did I try to intertwine him in a few storylines straight away; however, also wasn't afraid to have him lose. That said, whenever a 'big man' loses it's going to take more than your garden variety finishing maneuver. People like Big Cat, Vengeance, Khoklov, etc., are guys that you're going to have to give everything & most likely do something pretty drastic to beat them. It's to be a 'feat'; not every day kind of thing. So, you can have Big Cat drop a match, not be a Goldberg-prototype, and yet still look strong despite the loss (ie: "Oh my god, it took that and that and that to finally put him down. He's a MONSTER!"... all even though he lost).</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ladron Del Alma" data-cite="Ladron Del Alma" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for Val, it's actually a sad thing that a guy who's actually pretty good in the ring and on the mic, so bloody boring. If he were real, Vince would make him lose to Hornswaggle every week and have him dance like a goof.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">haha. Vince logic is the worst. </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Valiant IS a really talented guy. I mean, I tried to put him on the back-burner because he was rather bland; however, came to find that he was pulling great grades with just about everyone. That made it ten times easier to start the transition of his character.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> He CAN be boring but I guess it's what you do with him. Turning him heel is often a good way to give him a character to work with; however, in some cases, I feel some may jump to that approach too early. For me, he is still kind of old school, bland, babyface with a John Cena-like moral code thing but it's not always about what the wrestler does (or says) that makes him who he is. It's also about how OTHERS perceive him, talk to him, treat him. You can build A LOT with a character with how others interact with him (as well as how their environment interacts with them as well).</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Psycho Sam" data-cite="Psycho Sam" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You actually fired Bruce? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Great job. I was hoping he would be out of the company, possibly to start up WAR instead of Stallings. You have my thanks. :-D</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">That'd be one great approach for Bruce to create WAR. I'm guessing he'll sign with PSW or something though... </div><img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p></p>

[Eisen-verse]

<p><strong><em>Just saw this after responding to Sam and Ladron...</em></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Iceisle" data-cite="Iceisle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Personally I love Valiant's 'pure babyface' sort of vibe. Sure, it's easy to see him as being a bit too generic, but what makes him slightly generic in the overall world of wrestling actually makes him pretty unique in the SWF environment.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Exactly.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> The current culture of the SWF is VERY risque. It's attitude-esque in a way. It's a reason why people like Bulldozer Brandon Smith & Jacob Jett won't sign with the company (as it's too risque for them). With Valiant, he sticks out like a sore thumb... but... in a good way. He's a throwback in my mind; the reason why he's, in a sense, Christian Faith 2.0. He feels like he's a couple decades late to the dance. That said, it's interesting to see someone like him survive in the current state of the SWF (as Faith wouldn't have had the same challenge). With people like Bruce & Frehely atop the company, the product is not as 'basic kayfabe' as it used to be. The 'cool bad-boy babyface' is alive and well and this poses a great challenge for Valiant.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Iceisle" data-cite="Iceisle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The way most people seem to write these characters, including myself, there's no one else (at least near the top of the card) who is truly motivated to do the right thing above all else. The top faces aren't exactly role models. As Eisen-verse is highlighting in this story (expertly, I might add <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />), even a guy like Christian Faith has a pretty clear edge to him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Very much so. Christian Faith is somewhat of a curmudgeon in my rendition of him; at least at this point in his career. He's that surly old guy that you respect the hell out of but 'wouldn't want to end up on his lawn'. This doesn't bode well for someone like Val who may need someone to 'guide him'... when... in reality... the best one who COULD doesn't want to...</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Iceisle" data-cite="Iceisle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The only other people I can see playing clean cut faces as well as Valiant are Des Davids and maybe the Bumfholes, but there are usually other things to be done with those characters. Valiant might not be as versatile, but IMO every promotion can make use of a classic good guy, especially at the top of the card. I have more fun trying to add some depth to that character than I did when I tried to turn him into something that I found more interesting on the surface. Just my opinion, of course.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">It's your opinion but a good one at that. We often try to 'change' characters too much then letting them actually breathe and be themselves. Adam (Ryland) did a great job creating the universe he did; we've got everything right there to work with. I'm someone who likes to work within the lines & evolve the environment (and characters) as I go. It's much more fulfilling that way; for me.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Iceisle" data-cite="Iceisle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyway, keep up the great work Eisen-verse. Can't wait to see what happens next, especially with the Warzone Cell and Jack Bruce storylines.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Thank you, Ice! </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> You've been SUCH a great sense of support with this project. You're bringing my madness to life. </div><img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p></p>

[Iceisle]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Exactly.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> The current culture of the SWF is VERY risque. It's attitude-esque in a way. It's a reason why people like Bulldozer Brandon Smith & Jacob Jett won't sign with the company (as it's too risque for them). With Valiant, he sticks out like a sore thumb... but... in a good way. He's a throwback in my mind; the reason why he's, in a sense, Christian Faith 2.0. He feels like he's a couple decades late to the dance. That said, it's interesting to see someone like him survive in the current state of the SWF (as Faith wouldn't have had the same challenge). With people like Bruce & Frehely atop the company, the product is not as 'basic kayfabe' as it used to be. The 'cool bad-boy babyface' is alive and well and this poses a great challenge for Valiant.</div><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well put. Obviously there's a good reason for the lack of pure faces in the company. A guy like Christian Faith is rough around the edges because he's been at the top in the SWF for a long time, and that's simply what it takes to thrive in that position. So the question raised by this storyline ('Is Valiant Too Soft?') is a brilliant one, because it's about so much more than just a single match on a single PPV. In a way, it's even about more than just Valiant. It's also about the SWF as a whole.</p><p> </p><p> It's unclear if someone <em>can</em> survive at the top in the SWF with their morals intact, because when you're facing a guy like Rich Money (or even Vengeance or Remo), sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do. It's a sort of baptism by fire, and even guys who may have been better role models early in their careers (Faith) are now hardened if not fundamentally changed by the experience. The comparisons of Valiant to Faith are great, because Faith then serves as an example of what that environment does to someone like Val. Maybe Faith <em>would</em> have been the type who could mentor the next generation of workers, but guys like that don't succeed in the modern SWF.</p><p> </p><p> Whatever the answer is (and it could realistically go either way with satisfying results, which is awesome), I think this has the potential to be your most interesting storyline yet, and if he can find his place in the company one way or another, it will be a launching pad for Valiant to become recognized as a Main Eventer. It's one of those storylines that could go on to define a character for the rest of their career, really. </p><p> </p><p> It also opens up the possibility for further development of Christian Faith's character, especially if Valiant is able to find success as a more pure sort of face in a company where even the good guys have to get their hands dirty.</p>

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Iceisle" data-cite="Iceisle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well put. Obviously there's a good reason for the lack of pure faces in the company. A guy like Christian Faith is rough around the edges because he's been at the top in the SWF for a long time, and that's simply what it takes to thrive in that position. So the question raised by this storyline ('Is Valiant Too Soft?') is a brilliant one, because it's about so much more than just a single match on a single PPV. In a way, it's even about more than just Valiant. It's also about the SWF as a whole.<p> </p><p> It's unclear if someone <em>can</em> survive at the top in the SWF with their morals intact, because when you're facing a guy like Rich Money (or even Vengeance or Remo), sometimes you've just gotta do what you've gotta do. It's a sort of baptism by fire, and even guys who may have been better role models early in their careers (Faith) are now hardened if not fundamentally changed by the experience. The comparisons of Valiant to Faith are great, because Faith then serves as an example of what that environment does to someone like Val. Maybe Faith <em>would</em> have been the type who could mentor the next generation of workers, but guys like that don't succeed in the modern SWF.</p><p> </p><p> Whatever the answer is (and it could realistically go either way with satisfying results, which is awesome), I think this has the potential to be your most interesting storyline yet, and if he can find his place in the company one way or another, it will be a launching pad for Valiant to become recognized as a Main Eventer. It's one of those storylines that could go on to define a character for the rest of their careers, really. </p><p> </p><p> It also opens up the possibility for further development of Christian Faith's character, especially if Valiant is able to find success as a more pure sort of face in a company where even the good guys have to get their hands dirty.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">This really could be the storyline that defines Valiant for the rest of his career. That's my attempt here. It's more than just a 'storyline to give Valiant something to do'. It's more of a creating a unique character that can do a lot of good for the SWF in the future. Will he make it to Faith's LEGENDARY status? We'll see. That said, the road to get there could really create something really groundbreaking for his character as a whole (within this project that is).</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> I love how you pointed out that Faith is really what happens to someone like Valiant after 3 decades in the SWF. Faith started as a wide-eyed, old-school, wrestler with a moral code; however, over time, found that he HAD to 'get dirty' in which to survive. In reality, he never stooped to the level of a Money or Bruce for that matter but he's done enough to stay on top; stomping on some toes in the process. As you said, to get there and stay there, one has to be pretty tough; hard-headed... a never ending fighter. It's why Favre wouldn't just let Aaron Rodgers walk in and 'take his spot'; he wasn't done with it yet and he had 'been the guy', busting his a$$ to remain the guy up until then, and wasn't ready for time to pass him by. This is kind of the same thing we're seeing so far with Val/Faith.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> To succeed in the SWF you HAVE to be insanely tough. Not to mention, you've got to be like HBK was in the late 90's; always looking over your shoulder for the NEXT guy to come take your spot. With Faith, he may be looking over his shoulder but he doesn't really care. He's done enough in 30 years to feel comfortable at the top of the heap. He's pretty much the Cornellverse of the Undertaker in the real-world right now.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Is Val too soft? That's all subjective. It depends on how you define 'soft'. Is he a 'dirty player' and willing to 'step on toes'? Right now, no. Could he get there? Possibly but it would mean abandoning EVERYTHING that makes him who he is; his code. Will he do so? That remains to be seen (or if he is willing to entertain the thought; potentially proving to be a steadfast believer in his code). That said, he's not really 'soft' from an in-ring perspective. He has that old school strong-style approach, almost generic in his move-selection, and is one who can put up one hell of a fight. That said, will he do ANYTHING to get the win? No. To some, that would make him weak/soft.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> It really can go many different ways; however, I will say, I have a concrete focus in mind. In the end, I'm hoping it turns out as it's developed in my mind. If it does... man... We've got some good stuff ahead of us. </div><img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p></p>

[Bull]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">This really could be the storyline that defines Valiant for the rest of his career. That's my attempt here. It's more than just a 'storyline to give Valiant something to do'. It's more of a creating a unique character that can do a lot of good for the SWF in the future. Will he make it to Faith's LEGENDARY status? We'll see. That said, the road to get there could really create something really groundbreaking for his character as a whole (within this project that is).</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> I love how you pointed out that Faith is really what happens to someone like Valiant after 3 decades in the SWF. Faith started as a wide-eyed, old-school, wrestler with a moral code; however, over time, found that he HAD to 'get dirty' in which to survive. In reality, he never stooped to the level of a Money or Bruce for that matter but he's done enough to stay on top; stomping on some toes in the process. As you said, to get there and stay there, one has to be pretty tough; hard-headed... a never ending fighter. It's why Favre wouldn't just let Aaron Rodgers walk in and 'take his spot'; he wasn't done with it yet and he had 'been the guy', busting his a$$ to remain the guy up until then, and wasn't ready for time to pass him by. This is kind of the same thing we're seeing so far with Val/Faith.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> To succeed in the SWF you HAVE to be insanely tough. Not to mention, you've got to be like HBK was in the late 90's; always looking over your shoulder for the NEXT guy to come take your spot. With Faith, he may be looking over his shoulder but he doesn't really care. He's done enough in 30 years to feel comfortable at the top of the heap. He's pretty much the Cornellverse of the Undertaker in the real-world right now.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Is Val too soft? That's all subjective. It depends on how you define 'soft'. Is he a 'dirty player' and willing to 'step on toes'? Right now, no. Could he get there? Possibly but it would mean abandoning EVERYTHING that makes him who he is; his code. Will he do so? That remains to be seen (or if he is willing to entertain the thought; potentially proving to be a steadfast believer in his code). That said, he's not really 'soft' from an in-ring perspective. He has that old school strong-style approach, almost generic in his move-selection, and is one who can put up one hell of a fight. That said, will he do ANYTHING to get the win? No. To some, that would make him weak/soft.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> It really can go many different ways; however, I will say, I have a concrete focus in mind. In the end, I'm hoping it turns out as it's developed in my mind. If it does... man... We've got some good stuff ahead of us. </div><img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The way you describe your plans with Valiant keeps kicking up the Superman vs. Elite story in my head with the world thinking the best way to get rid of evil is by killing it. So Manchester Black decides he will give the world what they want and creates The Elite. So they keep trying to push Superman to take the same route as them but he continuously refuses until they push him to the breaking point. Supes starts killing The Elite members one by one but he only made Manchester Black think he was killing when in reality he was using his super-robots to transport them to the fortress of solitude to strip them of their powers. In the end he was simply proving to the world that his no kill policy is what's best for Humanity. . .</p>

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The way you describe your plans with Valiant keeps kicking up the Superman vs. Elite story in my head with the world thinking the best way to get rid of evil is by killing it. So Manchester Black decides he will give the world what they want and creates The Elite. So they keep trying to push Superman to take the same route as them but he continuously refuses until they push him to the breaking point. Supes starts killing The Elite members one by one but he only made Manchester Black think he was killing when in reality he was using his super-robots to transport them to the fortress of solitude to strip them of their powers. In the end he was simply proving to the world that his no kill policy is what's best for Humanity. . .

 

I can definitely see the parallels. In a lot of ways, I've seen Valiant as 'Superman' in this recent rendition of the SWF. Well, not in the classic sense. More like, if someone was born, had the look, the ability, and people started calling that growing man 'Superman'. Only, as time went on, when he didn't 'save the world', didn't do it how they wanted him to, didn't become what they wanted him to be, a shadow of doubt begins to creep. That doubt brings naysayers. It brings the masses with their pitchs and forks waiting next to the door. They WANT him to be 'Superman' but many feel he can't be & are starting to think that it'll NEVER happen. Before you know it, the once heralded man is now considered to be 'just outside of the realm of what he could have been'. People almost give up on the thought that he will one day 'save the world' and, instead, look to another person to do so. Clinging to another figure to 'save them'. That's my Valiant right there; the 'Superman' that was once thought but may never be...

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<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SupremeTV/SupremeTVSmall.png</span></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SupremeTV/PD.jpg</span><div style="text-align:right;"><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Episode #:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> 22</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Week Date:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> 2nd Tuesday, June 2013</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Run-time:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> 120 Minutes</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Shown on:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Tuesday Night, LIVE on C.A.N.N.</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Location:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Mayor Street Arena (New England)</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Main Event:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Rich Money vs. The Unknown 4th Member of Christian Faith's "Warzone Cell" Team</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SupremeTV/EP.jpg</span><div style="text-align:right;"><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';">We’re in the final stretch leading up to “Times of Trouble”. With that, we are only days away from the resurrection of THE most vicious match in professional wrestling history; the “Warzone Cell”. Knowing this, SupremeTV is bound to be an absolute powder keg waiting to blow this week…</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Christian Faith has YET to name the 4th member of his “Warzone Cell” team. Valiant campaigned for the spot; however, was shockingly turned away when the “Iron Man” felt the “Honorable” wrestler’s moral code would not translate well into the ‘Cell. While it’s understandable to look for those with a ‘mean streak’, those capable of sheer brutality, by not accepting Valiant, Faith is left with one spot remaining. Who will take this spot; especially when Jack Bruce is no longer with the company and Steve Frehley is already tied up in a main event title match?</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> On the other side, SWF OWNER Rich Money appears to be hell-bent on evolving </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em>The</em></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Establishment ‘s foursome going into the ‘Cell. With Hammer being merely a bodyguard, a perspective adamantly stated by the ‘Supreme Dictator’, the ‘privileged faction’ is in need of a 4th member. Who does Rich Money want in that final spot? A vile ‘Demon’ that he simply cannot trust; Vengeance. While, at one point, Vengeance was a ‘hitman’ of sorts for Money, violently persuading Richard Eisen to sell his empire to the ‘Supreme Dictator’ through force; however, those days have long past. The “Demon” is apparently ‘off-leash’ and seemingly out for everyone and everything. Will Vengeance join his side? Should Rich Money REALLY be pushing for the ‘Demon’ after what we’ve seen recently (Vengeance choking Eric Eisen at the close of a recent SupremeTV)? </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> The thing is, if he does accept, what will that mean for EVERYONE in the ‘Cell; </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em>The</em></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Establishment included? It could be a recipe for absolute horror.</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Finally, we’re inching ever so close to the highly anticipated war between SWF World Heavyweight Champion Steve Frehley© and his newfound challenger in “Prime Time” Des Davids. Thus far, through turmoil, Davids has shown to have the ‘x-factor’ in him. He’s left the “Dark Destroyer” motionless in the ring on several occasions; however, this past week, we saw the champ explode with pure frustration; KO’ing his challenger in the process. The ultimate trump-card here? Does Peter Michaels ACTUALLY have an underlying alliance with Des Davids? So far, it’s been rather weird how everything has come together. It seems as though the respected SWF Announcer COULD be in cahoots with the former client of the late, and missed, Joe Sexy. Is he? What will it mean for their title match if he IS? What if he isn’t? Are we dragging a respected SWF figure through the dirt simply by manufactured association? I guess we’ll see…</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="text-align:center;"><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';">Tune into SupremeTV THIS WEEK as we look to answer MANY of these lingering questions. “Times of Trouble”, and with it the resurrection of the “Warzone Cell”, is only days away from taking place. How will SupremeTV set the course for such an iconic PPV? Tune in and find out!!</span></div></div></div></div><p></p></div></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div><span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SupremeTV/CP.jpg</span><div style="text-align:right;"><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div style="text-align:center;"><div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Kazikaze vs.</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">“THE DARK DESTROYER”</span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Steve Frehley</strong></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em><strong>Standard Singles Match]</strong></em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong> Question:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Only a few days from his SWF World Heavyweight Championship defense at “Times of Trouble”, can the “Dark Destroyer” make a statement of dominance heading into such a pivotal PPV?</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Kurt Laramee vs.</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">“THE HONORABLE”</span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Valiant</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">w/ Hannah</span></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em><strong>[standard Singles Match]</strong></em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong> Question:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> With recent chatter circling around whether or not Valiant is ‘too soft’ due to his moral code, can Valiant prove to be otherwise by going toe-to-toe with one of THE most brutal wrestlers on the SWF roster in Kurt Laramee?</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>The Awesomeness</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">w/ Dawn the Cheerleader</span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>vs. The Truth</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</span></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em><strong>[Non-Title Match]</strong></em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em><strong> [standard Tag Team Match]</strong></em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong> Question:</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> Will the Awesomeness have a fair fight as they step into the ring, once again, with the devious World Tag Team Champions in The Truth?</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. A chosen member of </strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong><em>The</em></strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong> Establishment</strong></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em>[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em> [All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em> [standard Singles Match]</em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Question(s):</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> WHO will each team designate as the man who will carry their team on their back? Also, WHICH team will end up with the numbers advantage in the “Warzone Cell”?</span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">SWF OWNER</span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>Rich Money</strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;">w/ </span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;"><em>The</em></span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><span style="font-size:8px;"> Establishment</span></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong>vs. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</strong></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"> </span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><em><strong>[standard Singles Match]</strong></em></span></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong> </strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong><strong>Question(s):</strong></strong></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:'Century Gothic';"><strong> After controversially beating Captain Atomic and Angry Gilmore in previous weeks, two known members of ‘Team Faith’, can the ‘Supreme Dictator’ do it once again and defeat YET ANOTHER ‘Team Faith’ member; even if this person IS unknown as we speak? Furthermore, WHO will join ‘Team Faith’ as the 4th member & ultimately step into the “Warzone Cell” in a matter of days?</strong></span></div></div></div><p></p></div></div><div></div></blockquote></div><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><strong> </strong></div></div></div>

[Rickymex]

<p>Kazikaze vs.<strong> “THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

Standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question: Only a few days from his SWF World Heavyweight Championship defense at “Times of Trouble”, can the “Dark Destroyer” make a statement of dominance heading into such a pivotal PPV?</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs.<strong> “THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question: With recent chatter circling around whether or not Valiant is ‘too soft’ due to his moral code, can Valiant prove to be otherwise by going toe-to-toe with one of THE most brutal wrestlers on the SWF roster in Kurt Laramee?</p><p> </p><p>

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. <strong>The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</strong></p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p>

Question: Will the Awesomeness have a fair fight as they step into the ring, once again, with the devious World Tag Team Champions in The Truth?</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ </strong>vs. A chosen member of The Establishment</p><p>

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</p><p>

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question(s): WHO will each team designate as the man who will carry their team on their back? Also, WHICH team will end up with the numbers advantage in the “Warzone Cell”?</p><p> </p><p>

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment vs. <strong>The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</strong></p><p>

<strong>[standard Singles Match]</strong></p><p><strong>

Question(s): After controversially beating Captain Atomic and Angry Gilmore in previous weeks, two known members of ‘Team Faith’, can the ‘Supreme Dictator’ do it once again and defeat YET ANOTHER ‘Team Faith’ member; even if this person IS unknown as we speak? Furthermore, WHO will join ‘Team Faith’ as the 4th member & ultimately step into the “Warzone Cell” in a matter of days?</strong></p>

[Kitarzu]

<p>Kazikaze vs. <strong>“THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs. <strong>“THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader</strong> vs. The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p> </p><p>

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. <strong>A chosen member of The Establishment</strong></p><p>

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</p><p>

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment</strong> vs. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p>

[Eisen-verse]

<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SWF%20Website/SWFdotcom.jpg</span><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SWF%20Website/Advantage_zps73cae287.jpg</span></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:right;"><span>http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o702/Supreme_Epic/SWF%20Website/VP.jpg</span></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;">

</div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">The “Warzone Cell” is a vile structure. One that has, and most certainly will continue to, destroy the livelihood of those brave (or stupid) enough to accept its challenge. Just as versions of years past, the ‘Cell will most likely claim a victim or two; if not all. We have witnessed this brutality times before; however, never quite grow accustomed to the sheer violence of it all.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="text-align:center;"><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">One way to better your chance at survival? </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="text-align:right;"><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"><em>… Be the team that ultimately gains the odd-man advantage.</em></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

A simple coin flip was often used to dictate which team would obtain the numbers advantage. The winning team would introduce a new teammate and ultimately generate a 2-on-1, 3-on-2, and 4-on-3 (These numbers are contingent on the fact that no one is eliminated before all the competitors are introduced into the match; this can change accordingly). With this advantage, we’ve seen some of THE most destructive moments in the ‘Cell’s history. </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

One example being the point for which Jack Bruce was almost viciously forced into a coma through a 2-on-1 assault levied by the tandem of Runaway Train & Enforcer Roberts. In that case, the arrival of Roberts into the match ultimately titled the numbers game in their team’s direction. In doing so, Bruce was repeatedly double-teamed and ultimately thrown into the cage wall repeatedly; his head colliding with the ‘Cell wall 7 times before his partner, Christian Faith, entered the ring. </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

In a new twist on an old rule, there will NO longer be a coin flip to decide the numbers advantage in the ‘Cell. Instead, a match will take place, this week on SupremeTV, and the winner of said match will usher in the ultimate advantage for their team at “Times of Trouble”.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"><em>The</em></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> Establishment and the foursome of Christian Faith, Angry Gilmore, Captain Atomic and their unknown 4th partner will decide on WHO will represent their team in this impending SupremeTV match. Picking ONE individual, they will carry the weight of their entire team’s health. For a win will bring about, as we stated before, the development of the ‘numbers advantage’ come the “Warzone Cell” match at “Times of Trouble”.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

Adding further intrigue into the match, SWF OWNER Rich Money has gone as far as to announce that NO OTHER wrestler will be allowed at ringside during the match. Could this be Money’s attempt at fair gamesmanship? Potentially. In reality though, there’s always a trump card up the ‘Supreme Dictator’s’ sleeve it seems. This is FAR too important of a match to allow everything to go smoothly. </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

If we’ve learned ANYTHING from </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"><em>The</em></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> Establishment’s short tenure at the top of the SWF it’s that NOTHING will go smoothly; especially with SO much on the line.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">WHO will represent each team in this impending SupremeTV match?</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">It’s a battle for leverage… and it’s coming… NEXT WEEK!!</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;"> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><div style="margin-left:25px;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">

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[CZCW]

<p>Kazikaze vs. <strong>“THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs. <strong>“THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. <strong>The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</strong></p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’</strong> vs. A chosen member of The Establishment</p><p>

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</p><p>

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment <strong>vs.</strong> The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p>

[Ladron Del Alma]

<p>Kazikaze vs. <strong>“THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Gotta give the champ the win going into the PPV. Although Des might play into the finish.</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs. <strong>“THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Val's gotta prove himself to Faith and the SWF Nation and the best way to do that and keep that storyline going is for him to win.</p><p> </p><p>

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. <strong>The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</strong></p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p>

Champs could use the win here after dropping some to build the challengers.</p><p> </p><p>

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. <strong>A chosen member of The Establishment</strong></p><p>

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</p><p>

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Always more entertaining for the heels to get the advantage in matches like the Warzone. Although part of me wonders if this is a chance for Bruce to run in to help the faces.</p><p> </p><p>

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment vs. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

I'm gonna go with the match being thrown out. The prediction for the 4th member? Part of me wants to say it's The Golden Boy, part of me wants to say it's Bruce via some loophole, and there's a dark horse in this race, pun intended, of Vengeance.</p>

[CageRage]

Kazikaze vs. “THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley

[standard Singles Match]

 

Kurt Laramee vs. “THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah

[standard Singles Match]

 

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME

[Non-Title Match]

[standard Tag Team Match]

 

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. A chosen member of The Establishment

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]

[standard Singles Match]

 

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment vs. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’

[standard Singles Match]

[smwilliams]

<p>Kazikaze vs. <strong>“THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

<em>Oh poor Kazikaze. He might get decapitated just so Frehley looks good.</em></p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs. <strong>“THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

<em>Expecting Valiant to win and "tainted-ly"</em></p><p> </p><p>

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. <strong>The Truth </strong>w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</p><p>

<em>No sense in handing the champs a loss before their ppv match.</em></p><p> </p><p>

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. <strong>A chosen member of The Establishment</strong></p><p>

<em>Faces overcoming the odds seems to be the better direction.</em></p><p> </p><p>

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment <strong>vs</strong>. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

<em>Can't see either person taking a loss. I expect a 4-on-4 brawl to end the show.</em></p><p> </p><p>

EDIT TO ADD: Just want to say I love what you've done with this PPV. I always get caught up in having my champ be the headliner and driving the biggest action, but you've properly made the Zone match feel like the biggest match on the card while still building Frehley vs Davids in an excellent mini-feud.</p>

[shawn_waters]

<p>Kazikaze vs. <strong>“THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

Standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs.<strong> “THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. <strong>The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</strong></p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p> </p><p>

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. <strong>A chosen member of The Establishment</strong></p><p>

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</p><p>

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p> </p><p>

I'm calling Atomic vs Remo. The Establishment will choose Remo, since Money is busy and Eisen is a coward. And Remo should win...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment</strong> vs. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

<strong>[standard Singles Match]</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

He might actually lose this one!!</strong></p>

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smwilliams" data-cite="smwilliams" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> EDIT TO ADD: Just want to say I love what you've done with this PPV. I always get caught up in having my champ be the headliner and driving the biggest action, but you've properly made the Zone match feel like the biggest match on the card while still building Frehley vs Davids in an excellent mini-feud.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">I tend to be the same way. Up until now, Frehley has always been at the top of the show & in THE most important program over-and-over-again. That said, the "Warzone Cell" changes all of that. I'm just hoping the 'Cell doesn't produce an injury or two this close to "SC33". That could be quite a challenge; given who could come down with an injury.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Ultimately, I didn't want to throw a bunch of matches together that could project "SC33" with a little less luster. I wanted to keep some of these guys away from singles action; however, setting them up for a number of possibilities at the biggest PPV of the year. </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Davids/Frehley is certainly in a mini-feud mode right now but I feel it's really helping Des along. He's at a B+ in momentum and a C+ in popularity right now. While his pop hasn't budged much, his momentum has sky-rocketed recently. Even if he loses at "Times of Trouble", this scenario has given him quite a rub. Plus, the addition of Peter Michaels into the feud, the whole 'is he really working with Davids?', can add some mystery now & eventually build to a larger program going forward.</div><p></p>

[3rdStringPG]

Kazikaze vs. “THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley

Jobber squash #1...

 

Kurt Laramee vs. “THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah

...Jobber squash #2. Wait...Kurt Laramee is still in the SWF?

 

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME

The numbers game will work in The Truth's advantage.

 

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. A chosen member of The Establishment

Fourth member makes his presence felt for The Establishment...

 

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment vs. The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’

And here it's Team Faith's turn to let their fourth member send the fans home happy. I concur with the others' predictions. This could either be Bruce the Giant or Rocky Golden.

 

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS - I smell a major swerve coming here.

[Psycho Sam]

<p>Kazikaze vs. <strong>“THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

Standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question: Only a few days from his SWF World Heavyweight Championship defense at “Times of Trouble”, can the “Dark Destroyer” make a statement of dominance heading into such a pivotal PPV?</p><p> </p><p>

Kurt Laramee vs. “THE <strong>HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</strong></p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question: With recent chatter circling around whether or not Valiant is ‘too soft’ due to his moral code, can Valiant prove to be otherwise by going toe-to-toe with one of THE most brutal wrestlers on the SWF roster in Kurt Laramee?</p><p> </p><p>

The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader vs. <strong>The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</strong></p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p>

Question: Will the Awesomeness have a fair fight as they step into the ring, once again, with the devious World Tag Team Champions in The Truth?</p><p> </p><p>

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. <strong>A chosen member of The Establishment</strong></p><p>

[Winner gains numbers advantage for their team in the “Warzone Cell”]</p><p>

[All Supreme Superstars are barred from ringside]</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question(s): WHO will each team designate as the man who will carry their team on their back? Also, WHICH team will end up with the numbers advantage in the “Warzone Cell”?</p><p> </p><p>

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment <strong>vs.</strong> The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

<strong>[standard Singles Match]</strong></p><p><strong>

Question(s): After controversially beating Captain Atomic and Angry Gilmore in previous weeks, two known members of ‘Team Faith’, can the ‘Supreme Dictator’ do it once again and defeat YET ANOTHER ‘Team Faith’ member; even if this person IS unknown as we speak? Furthermore, WHO will join ‘Team Faith’ as the 4th member & ultimately step into the “Warzone Cell” in a matter of days? </strong></p><p><strong>

</strong><strong><em>4th member is...Troy Tornado, I bet ya.</em></strong></p>

[christmas_ape]

<p>Kazikaze vs.<strong> “THE DARK DESTROYER” Steve Frehley</strong></p><p>

Standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question: Only a few days from his SWF World Heavyweight Championship defense at “Times of Trouble”, can the “Dark Destroyer” make a statement of dominance heading into such a pivotal PPV?</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Kurt Laramee</strong> vs. “THE HONORABLE” Valiant w/ Hannah</p><p>

[standard Singles Match]</p><p>

Question: With recent chatter circling around whether or not Valiant is ‘too soft’ due to his moral code, can Valiant prove to be otherwise by going toe-to-toe with one of THE most brutal wrestlers on the SWF roster in Kurt Laramee?</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>The Awesomeness w/ Dawn the Cheerleader</strong> vs. The Truth w/ Jungle Lord and Zim-ME</p><p>

[Non-Title Match]</p><p>

[standard Tag Team Match]</p><p>

Question: Will the Awesomeness have a fair fight as they step into the ring, once again, with the devious World Tag Team Champions in The Truth?</p><p> </p><p>

A chosen member of ‘Team Faith’ vs. <strong>A chosen member of The Establishment</strong></p><p>

My guess is Gilmore vs Remo. Going to stick with heels winning but I could also imagine Jack getting involved. </p><p> </p><p>

SWF OWNER Rich Money w/ The Establishment <strong>vs.</strong> The unknown 4th Member of ‘Team Faith’</p><p>

<strong>[standard Singles Match]</strong></p><p><strong>

Bruce the Giant</strong></p>