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I was curious if my post/dynasties/suggestions go ignored based on some perception the board has of me? It could be in my imagination, but it does seem like a lot of my efforts go largely ignored while sillier/less planned dynasties get a lot more attention. Any thoughts?
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was curious if my post/dynasties/suggestions go ignored based on some perception the board has of me? It could be in my imagination, but it does seem like a lot of my efforts go largely ignored while sillier/less planned dynasties get a lot more attention. Any thoughts?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can't speak to a stigma, as I only know my perspective, but I don't foresee there being any negative will toward you.</p><p> </p><p> Honestly, what you're seeing is how things are around here. It takes a long, long, long while to get a following. Even when you get it, there are long instances of no feedback. It can be disheartening, I know, but it's part of the process here.</p><p> </p><p> Sometimes it's the projects you're running with (my SWF dynasty recieves a lot more attention than some of my smaller companies did). Other times, you have readers but they more or less lurk. They're still there.... Just not outright.</p><p> </p><p> It can be a challenge but its like any writing; some gain attention... Others have to work their way in.... Others rise.... Others wane.</p><p> </p><p> Don't give up on what you do. If you enjoy it, and show consistency in your work, you'll get there!</p>
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<p>Honestly I'm not looking for a following or a huge flood of long replies, just "nice show" or "hey that's a neat dynasty idea" or even a "that was dumb to have X lose to Y."</p><p> </p><p>

It seems like any dynasty preview I do doesn't even get a "ooh that sounds interesting" and kills my motivation before I start. Sorry to come off a whiny bitch...</p>

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Just do something you enjoy doing, and eventually you'll gain traction and people will comment more. If you post a lot of previews and not much else (I'm not saying you do, I have no idea...) then people are less likely to reply because it doesn't look like it'll last long before you're onto your next idea. Bit of a catch 22. People won't get involved until you show it's going to last, and it won't last if you get disheartened by people not replying.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I get the catch I really do...it just seems odd when 2 years ago <strong>the interest in a XDW dynasty was super hyped up and when I did a preview for it there was like no response.</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Part of that might be because newer readers and newer players of TEW have came in, XDW isn't really mentioned outside of The Questers and even they now have jobs (Except for Ol' Fearless and Extreme).</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was curious if my post/dynasties/suggestions go ignored based on some perception the board has of me? It could be in my imagination, but it does seem like a lot of my efforts go largely ignored while sillier/less planned dynasties get a lot more attention. Any thoughts?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hummm...okay, this is interesting. I don't see why you would think anyone was against you. If they were, you would know. Just ask captain charisma. The man is still "affraid" of coming to these boards. He feels ostracized, as he once told me, and rightfully so. His mod was always bashed, still is. I have a lot of issues with it, I already told him that a lot of times, but I didn't bash him. He was really attacked (unnecessarilly) by a lot of people who sit on their asses and expect eveything to be delivered to them. I've done mods and dynasties and such. It takes a lot of work. No need to bash it if you don't like it, just say you don't like it and why. So, the point is...no you are not disliked. If you were, you would know. Not everyone is as nice as the "veterans" in here.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks for the replies and kind words fellas. I guess I was just feeling sorry for myself or something. Anyway, I'm torn between a revitalized Greg Gagne led AWA or an All New...All Different...XDW as my secondary dynasty. Any thoughts?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd suggest writing out a few shows and seeing what you personally have the better feel for. No point in starting a dynasty if you find out 3 shows in that you don't like what you are doing, I've fallen for that before.</p><p> </p><p> Just do what you want to do. If you write it, they will come. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd suggest writing out a few shows and seeing what you personally have the better feel for. No point in starting a dynasty if you find out 3 shows in that you don't like what you are doing, I've fallen for that before.<p> </p><p> Just do what you want to do.<strong> If you write it, they will come</strong>. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Just like field of dreams. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>I have been where you are at times. Firstly do not let the lack of response in the preview section color your attitude. If you look at it for the most part nobody gets a reaction when they post in there unless they are a “known” writer. To be honest with you I am not even sure why that thread is even there as it serves very little purpose.</p><p> </p><p>

As far as people ignoring your diary goes, well I know that all too well. I mean I have had times when I have had ten people picking in my diaries on a semi-regular basis and I have had times where there has been only one person picking in my diary on a regular basis. In my current diary I only hold a picks contest for PPV’s because I usually only get three to four people who pick in my diary. The odd thing is I have a healthy viewership level because I notice that my view count tends to jump up anywhere from fifty to eighty posts after every time I post a show. So that means people are following or at least checking it out, they are just not commenting.</p><p> </p><p>

A lot of times it is more who picks in your diary or what you have done on the board outside of writing a diary that gets people to follow you. I have watched diaries that were not well read, all of a sudden get a good audience because someone like BigPapa (Just using him as an example because he was the first popular writer to pop into my head.) began commenting in the diary. Much like in real society, people are going to flock to diaries that have popular writers commenting in them. </p><p> </p><p>

It used to irk me when I would pick or comment in other people’s diary and they did not even bother to check mine out, or I would never get even a nomination for DOTM (There was one month when this happened that really annoyed me because the writer that won DOTM did not even bother to write match write-ups they took the match results directly from the game. Now I am horrible at match write-ups among other things, but even I do not take the results directly from the game unless I am writing my B-Show.). I mean I know that I am nowhere near the best writer on this board but I am also not anywhere near the worst either. </p><p> </p><p>

Then I came to the realization that not everyone is going to like you or like what you write and you have to not let that be a hindrance towards you doing something that you like. If you like writing a diary then do it and do not let it bother you if you are not getting any sort of reaction. People will read what they will read and there is not much you can do about it. </p><p> </p><p>

For instance with me, I will not bother to look at any diaries based in Japan (It does not matter if it is real world Japan or C-Verse Japan I have no interest in either one of them.), I will not read any diaries that are based on fictional mods that have nothing to do with the C-Verse (I might make an exception to that rule now that the 9000-Verse mod came out because that is a kick-ass mod.), I tend not to read any diaries that are based on Women’s only promotions. </p><p> </p><p>

Oh and the two things that kill my interest in a diary more than anything else are:</p><p> </p><p>

1. When a writer sends out a PM asking you to predict/comment in their diary. That is just a very lame thing to do.</p><p> </p><p>

2. Anyone who constantly cheap bumps their diary. It seems to be happening a lot more now. I notice a couple of semi-new writers always have to have their diary on the front page and the moment their diary is off the front page they will either answer a question posed to them, or they will give an update as to the status of the their diary, or they will give a 24 hour notice so that people can make sure to get their picks in. There are some writers who bump their diary just because nobody has bothered to pick in their diary, which I know stinks but still there is no reason to bump other diaries down that have legitimate updates.</p><p> </p><p>

A lot of the newer writers do cheap stuff like that to keep their diary on top. It is not like people will lose interest if you do not update your diary or have it on the front page every day. Hell Nevermore disappears for years at a time but the minute his ECW diary is updated people flock to it. </p><p> </p><p>

So yeah if a writer does stuff like that I will never bother with their diary. </p><p> </p><p>

Those are my quirks when it comes to what I will and what I will not follow. The diary could be the best written diary on the board but if I am not into the subject I will not follow it or if they constantly cheap bump their diary I will not follow it either. I am sure others are the same way as well.</p><p> </p><p>

Just to add a little more to this WOT, my point is lack of response probably has nothing to do with you and has more to do with either people not being interested in the companies you are writing for or they are just not familiar with what you have done in the past.</p>

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<p>I do kinda know how you feel LordJaguar, try releasing a mod and don't even know if people play it beyond the "first look" stage. but you just have to take it on the chin and keep working at it. </p><p> </p><p>

I really don't post in dairy mainly due to the fact that I really don't have anything to add. The main thing that turns me off cverse diary's is there is nothing different about them everyone hires the same workers, push the same workers instead of hiring and pushing KC Glenn how about pushing Roderick Remus instead. mix it up a little lol</p><p> </p><p>

I think I may try and make a bigger effort on these boards I've been here since 2005 and I'm on here everyday, ill check your diary out LordJaguar <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

@shawn michaels 82</p><p> </p><p>

We really should try to encourage Capt Charisma to make his way onto the boards Most of us have his mod anyways I think it would make a nice addition in the mod section more mods the better I say.</p>

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I personally haven't experienced any hostility even though I really only have like five or six regular posters, I just don't take it to heart that people haven't really read too much of my stuff. I write for my own enjoyment and as much as I like feedback, I would probably continue with little to none just because diary writing helps me along with the actual game anyway. Just my two cents, I don't think anyone is personally against you LJ, or anyone else, I just think that the idea of writing should be to write for oneself. Again, just my opinion <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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I have nothing against you. However I was following your RW Here comes the money dynasty and your response to a comment made about you putting the royal rumble in may put me off it. You had a great start don't get me wrong but it kind of drifted from something I was interested in, and after that comment you made, it made me think of you as someone who is set on one path and won't wander.
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I knew i'd read a couple of your dynasties before and seemed to recall you were getting some predictees at least then. So i thought i'd go have a look back just to check what it is you could be referring to and i have to say i really do not see what you mean, you seem to get 3+ predicters on average at the start of each of your dynasties, which is exactly the average most of my dynasties have gotten at the start (that increased with time as i would say yours would also), other than the last 2/3 which i would put down myself to the fact that i stick with an idea i have until it's run it's course or i can't write anymore. Which usually amounts to months of shows (real world time) and sometimes years game time. So all i would suggest is write something you really enjoy, something you can keep going for a few pages and i reckon people will come and read, now personally i am a little bit of a funny one when it comes to folk not sticking to their ideas, if i'm reading someones dynasty and they only last a few shows i'm highly unlikely to waste my time reading their stuff again. Now i'm not suggesting this is what you have done, just pointing out a reason why i think you should really think about any idea you have, write a few shows up and then go with it. Oh and good luck.

 

Oh and i'm not sure what you mean by sillier dynasties but i myself love a bit of silly, there's nothing sillier than my old SAW dynasty and i enjoyed running that for around an year.

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<p>@Minarin: I've since removed the aforementioned reply. It was a knee jerk reaction to a comment that seemed to say my work sucked based on the Royal Rumble being ran in May. I am open to some wondering...but sometimes you have a story in mind and just want to tell it.</p><p> </p><p>

@Jingo: True enough about my dynasty post, however look over the suggestion section, preview section, old 2010 suggestions....they just seem to get ignored or brushed aside. W/e I'm over it now....</p><p> </p><p>

Another thing is, I do like predictions, but seeing a list a names with no rhyme nor reason really isn't input. I like to gauge the interest of the people reading so if you predict and say "I just don't like X" then I try to phase them out if I can. However, if all you do is bold names or list winners I don't know if you like the direction I'm going or what. Honestly I'd rather have a little feedback than a lot of predictions...</p><p> </p><p>

As for silly dynasties, I was thinking of Rhudiepoo's TNA and WWE ones. No offense to him as they were thought out, just way too out there imho. They were like anything goes, no way this would fly in the real world type things.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another thing is, I do like predictions, but seeing a list a names with no rhyme nor reason really isn't input. I like to gauge the interest of the people reading so if you predict and say "I just don't like X" then I try to phase them out if I can. However, if all you do is bold names or list winners I don't know if you like the direction I'm going or what. Honestly I'd rather have a little feedback than a lot of predictions...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We'd all want this but sometimes people just don't have the time or don't feel they have anything to say. I myself also do not get tons of suggestions or comments, i wouldn't worry about it. As for the preview section i also posted in there ... Have i got any replies? Again if people don't feel they have anything to say, they just wont. It isn't a personal attack, it isn't hostility, it just is what it is. Don't worry about it. If you have something you want to write just get it out there ... Or don't, either way don't think people are being hostile unless they .. Really obviously are. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Just have fun.</p>
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I would say that if you didn't have any heat before this thread, you might actually have some now. Talking about silly dynasties and how you feel you deserve and want feedback is not gonna make you look good. I'm sure your intentions weren't bad, but in all honesty, I don't think this thread will give you any new friends. Just saying... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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<p>No hostility towards you from my part - if I'm honest though I've not seen many of your posts. </p><p> </p><p>

I tend to post whatever/whenever I feel like it and if people respond, cool, if not, I won't be losing sleep over it. It is nice to be acknowledged for work you put into things like mods/diaries etc, but the way I see it, if you're having fun doing it, that's reward enough. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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Just saw this thread and decided to post.

 


I have no hostility towards you, i predict in your WWF dynasty (But not regularly, sorry) and, despite being confused with the Rumble month, i liked it. Diaries are made to be different from the real world or balanced between real world and your mind, so you can move WrestleMania to December and i'm not going to complain about it, not a bit, i'm going to like it. But the main thing is: Have fun. As long as you have fun with your diaries, you don't need 1000 predictors. I agree with BHK, despite using the 24 hour warning sometimes. Just don't bump your diary too, as long as people like it, they're going to search for it, it doesn't matter if it is in the first or in the last page. I learned this with my first diaries. Honestly, i think that my first diary was horrible. But like i said, we learn with our mistakes. And i was having fun with it and that was what mattered. Good luck with your AWA diary too ;)

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was curious if my post/dynasties/suggestions go ignored based on some perception the board has of me? It could be in my imagination, but it does seem like a lot of my efforts go largely ignored while sillier/less planned dynasties get a lot more attention. Any thoughts?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I been following this thread since you posted the topic. I haven't commented because I didn't want to speak to soon or something, but seriously? *like the Miz would say*</p><p> </p><p> I can't think of a single post or reason why you would feel anyone at all, let alone the whole GDS (or TEW even) community would have any ill perceptions, hostility or anything else of that nature. </p><p> </p><p> I haven't been able to check out the Dynasties as much as I used to be able to lately, but I have always been a "ninja reader" type anyways, you won't find a ton of posts from me in any single Dynasty thread. I think of that whole section as a library of books to read whenever I have time or want to see how other's are playing the game, etc. If I see something unique, or something I think was excellent or if I just plain feel sorry for the person doing the Dynasty because it's one of the "sillier, or unplanned" types (sometimes I like them though, because sometimes I have it in my mind that the unplanned looking one's do a lot of letting the AI decide, and for some reason that makes it funnier to me). Mostly I linger around the "golden years" of wrestling though, if I'm going to catch up.</p><p> </p><p> Another reason I don't post, and probably the biggest reason others don't post half the time, is timing itself. I sometimes read months at a time (from just one thread)... I think I read six months a sitting for a whole week one time, with an older ECW diary.... and I don't think I ever posted because he was still years ahead of where I was at. I am hardly ever current with a diary, but when I am that's when I do post if I am going to. With times the way they are these days, with everyone having stuff to do for just about all their waking hours, I would bet at least 30% or more people that would post, has the same type of timing problems (not being current or caught up) as I do. </p><p> </p><p> All that being said, if I were to post, it would be much easier to just do a guess thing with the card, rather then comment on a diary that I'm not up to date with... Meaning If I were to try to post meaningful stuff in most diary's I get the chance to read, I would end up having to ask "Why are you going that route, whats going on with those two, are they feuding?" just to be able to give you any of my thoughts on anything current.</p><p> </p><p> I've posted all this before, and I suddenly just found myself in a state of Deja vu, when other posters have asked how they could have "X" amount of people on their thread and presumably reading it, but never comment on it.</p>
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<p>Speaking as someone who has been fairly successful on these boards with diaries over a number of years, I can honestly say I have no idea what it takes to generate a ton of commentary\feedback on diaries outside of the usual prediction things. ( and even those will only get something said about the match less than half the time).</p><p> </p><p>

It doesn't mean people aren't reading or enjoying it, its just that it seems to take something really unique or really creative to get other people to comment on it ( like something incredibly funny such as Monkeypox's Dave or J-Silver's USPW diaries) or has to be one of the most popular feds, like SWF and TCW, coupled with a really good and well known writer, such as EisenVerse or BigPapa, etc.</p><p> </p><p>

Frankly, very few people are at that extreme level of creativity. Its not that what the rest of us are doing isn't good, or entertaining, and isn't drawing interest, its more so that the community as a whole only seems to feel the need to add extra commentary to something truly exceptional.</p><p> </p><p>

But then, if the reason you are writing a diary here is just for feedback from the community, then you are doing it for the wrong reason and you won't get the result you are looking for. You should be writing because you feel you have a story to tell, or are exercising your creative instincts, or just because you really love wrestling. Then, if what you are writing is any good, or has a story that will interest people, you will start drawing an audience, and as you do more stuff, more of an audience will come as newer people discover it and these boards.</p><p> </p><p>

Also too, active participation in these boards is very cyclic, with a large population right before and right after a new TEW game come out, and then gradually fades out the farther and farther away we get from the latest release.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36481" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would say that if you didn't have any heat before this thread, you might actually have some now. Talking about silly dynasties and how you feel you deserve and want feedback is not gonna make you look good. I'm sure your intentions weren't bad, but in all honesty, I don't think this thread will give you any new friends. Just saying... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Heat?</p><p> </p><p> Are the boys going to potato him if he doesn't start selling more?</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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