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<p>No I'm running with my case open and there's virtually no heat being produced at all. My gtx560's used to run at about 90degrees without failing and currently my system is only running at 60. I'm not getting into a game far enough to push my gpus to produce heat! It's definitely not overheating.</p><p> </p><p>

I have just finished testing the ram, without success. My next test will be to plug in my old gpus and see what happens.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="panix04" data-cite="panix04" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36531" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Antec tpq1200</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How many years have you been using the psu?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="panix04" data-cite="panix04" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36531" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A few - 3-4 I think</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've always heard people say they replace theirs every 2-5 years, it could just be wearing down. The good news with that is at least power supplies are one of the cheaper computer parts and it's not like replacing the mobo or graphics card.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36531" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've always heard people say they replace theirs every 2-5 years, it could just be wearing down. The good news with that is at least power supplies are one of the cheaper computer parts and it's not like replacing the mobo or graphics card.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've had to replace mine (and my son's). Mine twice, his once. The ones the computer come with on his went out very fast, but the one I bought him he still uses to this day, it's been in that span probably closer to five years then 2. I think when I bought my second one for mine, I found out that it wasn't the power supply but was too busy/lazy to swap it back out. In all other cases one of the computers went out, I upgraded to a newer computer. "My computer broke honey, I have to get a new one, darn it all!"<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />:D</p><p> </p><p> In all cases, the 2 to 5 sounds right for me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36531" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've had to replace mine (and my son's). Mine twice, his once. The ones the computer come with on his went out very fast, but the one I bought him he still uses to this day, it's been in that span probably closer to five years then 2. I think when I bought my second one for mine, I found out that it wasn't the power supply but was too busy/lazy to swap it back out. In all other cases one of the computers went out, I upgraded to a newer computer. "My computer broke honey, I have to get a new one, darn it all!"<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />:D<p> </p><p> In all cases, the 2 to 5 sounds right for me.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, pre-built machines usually don't use the best psus unfortunately, emachines is notorious for horrible ones actually haha <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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My brother got a voltmeter on it last night and it is kicking out 12v. So I'm now thinking its not a power problem. Flashed my bios as well. Updated my mobo drivers and no luck at all. Running out of idea now. It's not my drives as I tried an install on a different hard drive and it still had hanging issues. However I had no problems with my older gpus. I also don't seem to have issues running a duo sli with my titans. It's the 3way sli that's being a pain! Still looking for ideas.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="panix04" data-cite="panix04" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36531" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I also don't seem to have issues running a duo sli with my titans. It's the 3way sli that's being a pain! Still looking for ideas.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A, have you tried running dual Titans using different combinations of them? It might not be the triple Titans that's the issue, it might be one of the cards itself.</p><p> </p><p> B, why the **** do you need three Titans? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D-Lyrium" data-cite="D-Lyrium" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36531" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A, have you tried running dual Titans using different combinations of them? It might not be the triple Titans that's the issue, it might be one of the cards itself.<p> </p><p> B, why the **** do you need three Titans? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I have tried different combos in the duo. As for why I have three - I wanted to build a rig that was going to last me for a very long time. Trying to future proof the system. Chances are once the baby comes along I'm not going to be able to spend money on upgrading my PC. So I wanted to build a system that has potential to see me through a good 15-20 years! Baring any huge leaps in gpu tech I think I have a system that will still be running top games a long time in the future.</p>
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<p>As a person who is very well educated at such things, I would tell you there is absolutely no way your pc will hold on 15 years. Even though I might sound like an asshole, hear me out. First of all, most GPU's have trouble lasting over 10 years, mostly due to the heat, they tend to slowly die over time. Also, there is always a possibility of sudden death. With three graphics adapters heating each other, it gets even worse. </p><p> </p><p>

Next to mention is the possibility of faulty PSU frying your components. After a 5-6 years of use it is reccomended to change the power supply due to the simple fact that there is a small possibility they will die. And when they do, they tend to take the other connected components to frying pan.</p><p> </p><p>

Your processor, no matter how good it may be today, will be a totally weak unit in 15 years. Every year makes a difference, and 15 of those will leave your i7 as a practically extremely sub-par cpu in that time. The future generation video games will start to utilize more and more CPU cores.</p><p> </p><p>

In five years, it is almost certain that number of transistors on top GPU's will rise to 15 billion, compared to 7.1 billion on Titans. You can imagine what will happen in 15. The effective core clocks will get a huge increase as well, increasing the processing capabilities by a really incredible margin.</p><p> </p><p>

Yeah, that's just a few reasons. Sorry <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<p>I have to agree with dakydaky here, a new generation of graphic card is always leapfrog ahead of the current generation and not even multiple cards is going to help with that. A good way to SLI(in my opinion) is you get one of the top card on its prime, play with it for 3-4 years, then get another one of it(which is dirt cheap 4 years later) to sustain you 1-2 more years and then you switch to a new card.</p><p> </p><p>

As for the PSU, it's not really the 12v, it's more about the 1.2kW. The watt power of a PSU will go down(or "decay" might be the better word) with its age so say maybe your watt power eventually goes down to 900 after 3 years of using it and that might not be enough for your current rig.</p><p> </p><p>

As for the 3 way SLI, if it's not power sustain issue, perhaps you can ask around in the technical forum of Nvidia? Or at least a more hardware-oriented forum than here will likely to yield better result for you.</p>

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Thanks for ruining my dream of pc supremacy! :D I might not be a pc whizz, but I know my last rig had lasted 5 years without needing upgrading. I could carry on using it now (still ran everything I tried to run on full settings, just did it a bit more toasty then i'd really like), but I had the capital to upgrade and figured it was a good time.

 

How would I go about checking how many Watts my PSU is chucking out? I still have a feeling it's power related. But I don't want to pay out for a new PSU if I don't have to.

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