Official "Booking Committee" Thread

moafnsteel · October 17, 2016

Okay so I am needing some advice/help. In my original SWF game I am about 1.5 years in and I have managed to sign most of the biggest stars around. I have bought out several promotions. I have 89 wrestlers (including womens division) with two brands. I have 17 main eventers and 15 UM that several of them couple probably be ME. I have not lost a bidding war for anybody that I really wanted. I have all my original MEs plus Rocky Golden. Champaigne Lover, Wolf Hawkins, Aaron Andrews, Nicky Champion, plus I brought up several of my own guys to main event status (Mikey Lau, Spencer Spade, Jimmy Hernandez). I am at a lose at how to continue to make my game fun for me with so much talent. Plus everybody is signed to LONG deals that they are not going anywhere. I got a little sign happy and tried to steal every big name that I could from my competitors (I stole El Leon, Blood Raven, Johnny Bloodstone, Pharoah King (have an awesome render), and Axxis Jr, among others). Any help would be awesome!

CQI13 · October 17, 2016

Set up a hard brand split by breaking up the company and assigning the workers to the different promotions. Essentially, give them whatever money you want, etc and add a second (and maybe 3rd player) for the new companies. Reduce the contracts to where they are eligible to negotiate and just negotiate as Player 2 (the only ones to bid against would really be SWF and the other company if you do 3) which you would control anyway.

It is a longer process, but basically you would leave as Player 2 and 3 (or leave SWF for one of the new companies!) and "start" a fresh game in the universe you've created.

Another option would be to just reduce the contracts to the negotiation period (or less - a week or so) and let some expire, letting these guys go off on their own. For extra challenge, you can get rid of your top 8 guys (or 8 Main Eventers really) which you would replace with 8 of the 15 UM.

**Or a combination of both: Create a new company in the game to be your competition (give them a War relationship with you) and release some of your top guys. Pretty sure the AI will take the initiative to sign these big stars.

Just a thought.

moafnsteel · October 17, 2016

Thanks for the ideas. I thought about taking a handful of guys (from all the levels) and have them "walk out" and form a new company to challenge SWF. It might be gaming the system but it may make for some fun, challenging game play.

CQI13 · October 17, 2016

You can do that and take over that company, leaving the juggernaut of SWF behind. To be safe, make a copy of the game, so you have two - one where you can play as the new company and one where you can continue with SWF. You know, in case of regretting the decision or not understanding the decisions the AI does.

Especiallay at 1½ years in, that's a lot of history you've already created.

Macca316 · October 17, 2016

Hey currently playing a current day TNA game and was thinking as i'm making a profit and growing that its now time to rebrand the company and was looking for ideas.

Was considering copying across the logos for TCW from the Cverse and rebranding as TCW.

LigerLiger · October 17, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Macca316" data-cite="Macca316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey currently playing a current day TNA game and was thinking as i'm making a profit and growing that its now time to rebrand the company and was looking for ideas. Was considering copying across the logos for TCW from the Cverse and rebranding as TCW.</div></blockquote> Or you can rebrand them SWF.I always thought Supreme is better than Total or United States.It causes more of an Impact(no pun intended) and makes them seem better. "Oh,you're United States Pro Wrestling?WE'RE SUPREME!" Honestly,rebrand it to anthing that makes you seem better than everyone else.

Macca316 · October 17, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Liger!Liger!" data-cite="Liger!Liger!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Or you can rebrand them SWF.I always thought Supreme is better than Total or United States.It causes more of an Impact(no pun intended) and makes them seem better. "Oh,you're United States Pro Wrestling?WE'RE SUPREME!" Honestly,rebrand it to anthing that makes you seem better than everyone else.</div></blockquote> Nice one, Thanks mate. Follow up question, How would be best to deal with Titles, keep the belts and champs in place and rebrand the belts, changing name only or a full vacate, retire and replace? Kinda like the champions I have and the plans I have for some of them coming up. Just as an idea of who they are. TNA World Champion - King Devitt (Fergal Devitt, Prince Devitt, Finn Balor) TNA Television Champiion - Aron Rex TNA Tag Team Champion - Chaos Theory (Zack Sabre Jr & Will Osprey) TNA X Division Champion - Marty Scurll TNA Knockouts Champion - Alexis Kaufman (Alexa Bliss)

Hard_Times · October 18, 2016

WARNING: This is going to be long. If you're into reading my conundrum on what happens when your company basically wins the game and signs all the best talent in the Cornellverse, go ahead and skip it. It's going to be kinda TL;DR, because it's been forever, and I need to actually explain a lot of this for people to help me make an informed decision here.

So I've started working my way through 2023 and into 2024 with my game. The stars aligned and I scored Nicky Champion, who was the most popular worker in the game just in time for Champagne Lover to come back from a 14 month movie-making venture. Once in a lifetime match that went over extremely well. I've sort of booked out the rest of my year, vaguely, in Notepad. Card subject to change.

I'm in May of 2023, with a global sized company. Perf > Pop product.

I've booked everything I've done thus far around titles. Every July I have a 10+ day round robin tournament, with the winner getting a title shot at the Main Event at the big season finale in December. On the way there they defend the their title shot against people they lost to in the tournament on their way to the big event.

Here's my star players, and a little backstory on what I've done with them.

KC Glenn (31) recaptured the World Title for the first time since November 2018 in November of 2022. He held it for 4 defenses before he dropped it to the debuting Nicky Champion at the January Show, Ambition. He is my biggest babyface star in terms of potential drawing power, having an 83 in Charisma and 100 in SQ. <a href="https://i.gyazo.com/c71bcadd6d56d85fdb0d178003fc1368.png" rel="external nofollow">Probably also the best wrestler in the world in terms of pure stats.</a>

Nicky Champion (38) has 100 popularity across America from his stints at the top of USPW and SOTBPW and is being treated like a big deal/special attraction, who only wrestles on PPV but makes appearances and an occasional tag match on TV. He has yet to lose.<a href="https://i.gyazo.com/f15f23cf04c3e3b1284caa7721e7cc70.png" rel="external nofollow"> A great, but not fantastic worker.</a> Protecting him like this has had fantastic results.

Champagne Lover (41) is a former 3 time champion, and the second most popular worker in the world, pegged across the board at 98s. Also a special attraction. He went unranked last year due to spending 14 months filming a movie, but is a five time wrestler of the year. He was in a figurehead role for a very long time, but I removed him from that position in the year off. I don't know how long he's got before he hits Time Decline, <a href="https://i.gyazo.com/9877a9b0aadf8f1d3c80f57ae52eea1d.png" rel="external nofollow">but he's not there yet and is still putting on fantastic matches.</a>

Angry Gilmore (44) is a former 2 time World Champion. He had a bad surgery from a bad back injury, and was out for 8 months. Came back with a 'Bitter Veteran' gimmick, and started kicking ass. Won his second World Championship, dropped it to Jay Chord before he left the company. Picked up the IC Title from Wolf Hawkins, and shortly after won the Tag Team (w/ Spencer Spade, as the 'Franchise Players') titles as well. Currently pulls double duty on PPV as his gimmick.<a href="https://i.gyazo.com/0714ebe82ad4ac766fb58d02bb88c227.png" rel="external nofollow"> Not a big money draw due to an unfortunate lack of SQ, but probably my most reliably great worker.</a>

Wolf Hawkins(37) is my second biggest draw, <a href="https://i.gyazo.com/3ad851610118b4a519b29bbbdc51b453.png" rel="external nofollow">in terms of SQ and Charisma</a>, and my primary heel. Phenomal performer, but has never held a World Title. Was the one who brought the Intercontinental Title to prestige with a year and a half long reign with an average of 99 on each defense. I'm not sure where to go with him yet, but I think he'll probably get into the World Title scene soon.

Matty Faith (28) is the future of my company, and probably of Pro Wrestling as a whole. We'll wait and see how Cornell Jr turns out before I make that bold claim, but only at 27 he's easily the fourth most popular guy in my company and <a href="https://i.gyazo.com/d71865dde021d6dd0a1ebfa2022899d7.png" rel="external nofollow">better than he has any right to be.</a> Just damn good. He has no accolades besides beating KC Glenn on the last big PPV to complete his ascension to main event status.

Spencer Spade (32) was for some reason released by SWF. I can't figure out why,<a href="https://i.gyazo.com/556b9419f6bc17a5acbc54ee32b9214c.png" rel="external nofollow"> he's absurdly good</a> at everything but long matches, and a positive force in the locker room to boot. Their loss is my gain, and he's a 2 time World Champion, one time tournaent winner, one time IC Champion, and two times Tag Champion. Despite these accolades, he's never really been my 'top guy.' I'm aiming to change that.

So, my goal here is to create a booking plan that makes cohesive sense, and tells some good stories on the way to doing a big 'changing of the guard.' Moving my titles and the focus of my company onto these younger guys, and moving the older ones into supporting roles.

The 24-man, 12 night tournament is going to be booked so that Champagne Lover wins. I want to get out of this tournament without Nicky Champion taking a pinfall or submission. The most convenient way I could come up with doing this was that he'll go up against Sayeed Ali in the first round and win by disqualification when Ali gets caught cheating.

Ali will go psycho, and throw him off the stage, writing him out of the rest of the tournament and setting up for a later title defense.

This left me with a conundrum, though. Who wins his group? It's basically a <a href="https://i.gyazo.com/194185f4043450af8eecbca74c0f3236.png" rel="external nofollow">who's who </a>of potential, I think. I want to push Matty Faith and have him in a top position by the end of the year, so I'll push him.

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Matty Faith technically ties with Angry Gilmore, but since he beats him, he has a tiebreaker point that lets him advance to the final.

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Champagne Lover's group is a little easier to book, I think. He takes a loss each to Wolf Hawkins and KC Glenn, but otherwise skates on through to the Finals. This'll be important later.

From there, obviously, Lover will beat Faith in what I expect will be a great match, and we can move on. From there, I've sort of designed the fallout to fall like this...

Nicky Champion defends his title against Sayeed Ali in a Loser Leaves Town match, set up to coincide with Ali's actual contract ending. He's a total troublemaker, and now has major beef with Nicky Champion, KC Glenn, Emma Chase, and Wolf Hawkins backstage over money. So it's time for him to go.

Champagne Lover defends his title opportunity against KC Glenn and Wolf Hawkins heading on to the December big show for a big rematch of their first encounter. TWICE IN A LIFETIME, LOL. I want to run the biggest arena I can, and try to set a new PPV record. I need these big money draws in my main event of my biggest show.

Angry Gilmore is obligated to give IC title matches to Hollywood Brett Starr and Matty Faith due to losses in the tournament. He'll win the former, but lose the latter due to an especially grueling tag team match earlier on the card. He and Spade will lose the Tag Team titles shortly after to the Gauge Brothers, Matt and Greg, as his quest to regain the IC title consumes him. Spade will turn on him. They'll feud heading up to December, and Spade will win in a cage match.

I'd like to de-emphasize Gilmore from there on out, so he'll probably be in a supportive role. Put him in a tag team with one of my young guys and let his experience rub off on them a bit.

Here's where I start to run into a brick wall. I need things to do with KC Glenn and Wolf Hawkins, as they are my two biggest stars and it feels like an oversight to not have any plans for them after they lose to Champagne Lover on his way to the main event of the big show.

Glenn just lost the World Title, and lost his rematch, and lost to Matty Faith... so having him go after the IC title after Faith wins it seems natural. But then either Faith, who is supposed to be a future star, won't have a memorable first title run... or Matty will have beat him twice, which is kinda a bad way to treat your best (full time) babyface for a guy who is only four years younger than him.

My other option that I can think of is to put KC and Hawkins into a feud, but having those two feuding without the title sort of feels like a waste considering they're my top full time heel and my top full time face and a feud between them should probably be the focal point of the company. Then again, could try to run my take on the Naito/AJ feud from WK2013 where these are two guys jockeying to get into position for whichever of the two above them become more vulnerable.

Or I could do the WWF/WWE storyline of two main event guys who're feuding get stuck together in a tag team against their will and somehow win the tag titles, leading to a big separation feud on into 2024. But maybe that's a little obvious, and it kinda buries the Tag division, which atm has the same prestige as my two main event titles do thanks to Gilmore and Spade being awesome.

I could try to elevate two different people to feud with separately. What do you think makes the most sense for a well-executed storyline?

TL;DR version: Main event title match for the big show is between two part timers/special attractions, what do I do with my two best full time stars?

Winter8905 · October 18, 2016

Bah... :/ I am on the WCW lives mod as WWF. wanting to take the Tag titles from HHH/Austin, IC title from HHH and the Heavyweight title from Austin without pissing them both off.

I thought first I'll get the title Heavyweight title off Austin. have a multiman match with Eddie managing to sneak into them match and cunningly capture a pin and get the title. he starts at 65 pop and uppermidcard so I figured give him 4 weeks of winning on every Raw Heat and SD and he'll be up there, if not wait another month perhaps. He' had 3 matches now... one win against a Main event Big Show then a win against Bill gun and an upper midcard Rikishi and hi overness has went up by 2... :/ give it another week of wins and if it looks like it's capping it unfortunately looks like the push to the moon won't work for eddie :/

His pops only at positive o maybe once it's up to max he'll start getting the gains I want.

I however hate that the Tag an IC titles are with the power trip. Doesn't leave with many people who can beat them.

Thinking Y2J will get the IC from HHH after Take/Kane take out HHH.

unure about the tag title but I want the from the Power trip to some team in EnC, Hardy, Dudley feud.

If Eddie capps out i'm thinking either Jericho, Kurt or Beniot get the win.. although the thought of Eddie lying , cheating and stealing his way to his first championship seemed fun.

brat99 · October 22, 2016

Playing as TCW with Peter Michaels as my user and have decided to bring back the Cruiserweight Title as a way to further differentiate TCW from the competition. Definitely bringing back Donnie J and Likely Fumihiro Ota to initially lead the division, but looking for suggestions of good young guys to bring in for the future. Would love to run a CWC type thing to crown the new champ, so international suggestions are welcome too.

d12345 · October 23, 2016

@Hard_Times

Your roster is deep. Why not have KC Glenn work some midcarder who needs to further develop their skills and have Wolf Hawkins do the same. Or set up a big angle by kayfabe injuring one of them and giving them a month off or so.

If Glenn's your babyface make him sympathetic. You can do a kayfabe version of the Daniel Bryan real life story where Glenn's career is threatened by your biggest dumbest midcard worker injuring him. Run angles of Glenn rehabbing and then let him make a huge comeback somewhere down the line.

KnowYourEnemy · October 23, 2016

WARNING: This is going to be long. If you're into reading my conundrum on what happens when your company basically wins the game and signs all the best talent in the Cornellverse, go ahead and skip it. It's going to be kinda TL;DR, because it's been forever, and I need to actually explain a lot of this for people to help me make an informed decision here.

So I've started working my way through 2023 and into 2024 with my game. The stars aligned and I scored Nicky Champion, who was the most popular worker in the game just in time for Champagne Lover to come back from a 14 month movie-making venture. Once in a lifetime match that went over extremely well. I've sort of booked out the rest of my year, vaguely, in Notepad. Card subject to change.

I'm in May of 2023, with a global sized company. Perf > Pop product.

I've booked everything I've done thus far around titles. Every July I have a 10+ day round robin tournament, with the winner getting a title shot at the Main Event at the big season finale in December. On the way there they defend the their title shot against people they lost to in the tournament on their way to the big event.

Here's my star players, and a little backstory on what I've done with them.

KC Glenn (31) recaptured the World Title for the first time since November 2018 in November of 2022. He held it for 4 defenses before he dropped it to the debuting Nicky Champion at the January Show, Ambition. He is my biggest babyface star in terms of potential drawing power, having an 83 in Charisma and 100 in SQ. Probably also the best wrestler in the world in terms of pure stats.

Nicky Champion (38) has 100 popularity across America from his stints at the top of USPW and SOTBPW and is being treated like a big deal/special attraction, who only wrestles on PPV but makes appearances and an occasional tag match on TV. He has yet to lose. A great, but not fantastic worker. Protecting him like this has had fantastic results.

Champagne Lover (41) is a former 3 time champion, and the second most popular worker in the world, pegged across the board at 98s. Also a special attraction. He went unranked last year due to spending 14 months filming a movie, but is a five time wrestler of the year. He was in a figurehead role for a very long time, but I removed him from that position in the year off. I don't know how long he's got before he hits Time Decline, but he's not there yet and is still putting on fantastic matches.

Angry Gilmore (44) is a former 2 time World Champion. He had a bad surgery from a bad back injury, and was out for 8 months. Came back with a 'Bitter Veteran' gimmick, and started kicking ass. Won his second World Championship, dropped it to Jay Chord before he left the company. Picked up the IC Title from Wolf Hawkins, and shortly after won the Tag Team (w/ Spencer Spade, as the 'Franchise Players') titles as well. Currently pulls double duty on PPV as his gimmick. Not a big money draw due to an unfortunate lack of SQ, but probably my most reliably great worker.

Wolf Hawkins(37) is my second biggest draw, in terms of SQ and Charisma, and my primary heel. Phenomal performer, but has never held a World Title. Was the one who brought the Intercontinental Title to prestige with a year and a half long reign with an average of 99 on each defense. I'm not sure where to go with him yet, but I think he'll probably get into the World Title scene soon.

Matty Faith (28) is the future of my company, and probably of Pro Wrestling as a whole. We'll wait and see how Cornell Jr turns out before I make that bold claim, but only at 27 he's easily the fourth most popular guy in my company and better than he has any right to be. Just damn good. He has no accolades besides beating KC Glenn on the last big PPV to complete his ascension to main event status.

Spencer Spade (32) was for some reason released by SWF. I can't figure out why, he's absurdly good at everything but long matches, and a positive force in the locker room to boot. Their loss is my gain, and he's a 2 time World Champion, one time tournaent winner, one time IC Champion, and two times Tag Champion. Despite these accolades, he's never really been my 'top guy.' I'm aiming to change that.

So, my goal here is to create a booking plan that makes cohesive sense, and tells some good stories on the way to doing a big 'changing of the guard.' Moving my titles and the focus of my company onto these younger guys, and moving the older ones into supporting roles.

The 24-man, 12 night tournament is going to be booked so that Champagne Lover wins. I want to get out of this tournament without Nicky Champion taking a pinfall or submission. The most convenient way I could come up with doing this was that he'll go up against Sayeed Ali in the first round and win by disqualification when Ali gets caught cheating.

Ali will go psycho, and throw him off the stage, writing him out of the rest of the tournament and setting up for a later title defense.

This left me with a conundrum, though. Who wins his group? It's basically a who's who of potential, I think. I want to push Matty Faith and have him in a top position by the end of the year, so I'll push him.

Matty Faith technically ties with Angry Gilmore, but since he beats him, he has a tiebreaker point that lets him advance to the final.

Champagne Lover's group is a little easier to book, I think. He takes a loss each to Wolf Hawkins and KC Glenn, but otherwise skates on through to the Finals. This'll be important later.

From there, obviously, Lover will beat Faith in what I expect will be a great match, and we can move on. From there, I've sort of designed the fallout to fall like this...

Nicky Champion defends his title against Sayeed Ali in a Loser Leaves Town match, set up to coincide with Ali's actual contract ending. He's a total troublemaker, and now has major beef with Nicky Champion, KC Glenn, Emma Chase, and Wolf Hawkins backstage over money. So it's time for him to go.
Champagne Lover defends his title opportunity against KC Glenn and Wolf Hawkins heading on to the December big show for a big rematch of their first encounter. TWICE IN A LIFETIME, LOL. I want to run the biggest arena I can, and try to set a new PPV record. I need these big money draws in my main event of my biggest show.
Angry Gilmore is obligated to give IC title matches to Hollywood Brett Starr and Matty Faith due to losses in the tournament. He'll win the former, but lose the latter due to an especially grueling tag team match earlier on the card. He and Spade will lose the Tag Team titles shortly after to the Gauge Brothers, Matt and Greg, as his quest to regain the IC title consumes him. Spade will turn on him. They'll feud heading up to December, and Spade will win in a cage match.

I'd like to de-emphasize Gilmore from there on out, so he'll probably be in a supportive role. Put him in a tag team with one of my young guys and let his experience rub off on them a bit.

Here's where I start to run into a brick wall. I need things to do with KC Glenn and Wolf Hawkins, as they are my two biggest stars and it feels like an oversight to not have any plans for them after they lose to Champagne Lover on his way to the main event of the big show.

Glenn just lost the World Title, and lost his rematch, and lost to Matty Faith... so having him go after the IC title after Faith wins it seems natural. But then either Faith, who is supposed to be a future star, won't have a memorable first title run... or Matty will have beat him twice, which is kinda a bad way to treat your best (full time) babyface for a guy who is only four years younger than him.

My other option that I can think of is to put KC and Hawkins into a feud, but having those two feuding without the title sort of feels like a waste considering they're my top full time heel and my top full time face and a feud between them should probably be the focal point of the company. Then again, could try to run my take on the Naito/AJ feud from WK2013 where these are two guys jockeying to get into position for whichever of the two above them become more vulnerable.

Or I could do the WWF/WWE storyline of two main event guys who're feuding get stuck together in a tag team against their will and somehow win the tag titles, leading to a big separation feud on into 2024. But maybe that's a little obvious, and it kinda buries the Tag division, which atm has the same prestige as my two main event titles do thanks to Gilmore and Spade being awesome.

I could try to elevate two different people to feud with separately. What do you think makes the most sense for a well-executed storyline?

TL;DR version: Main event title match for the big show is between two part timers/special attractions, what do I do with my two best full time stars?

Wolf, never winning the World Title, makes sense to pair as either a "disgruntled worker" or "bitter veteran". I'd have him feud with Spencer Spade, who has accomplished a lot despite much younger. Gilmore can be used as a gatekeeper/lackey, and Hawkins could slowly build a stable to "cheat his way" to the title.

I'd reveal Nicky Champion as the "special enforcer" in this group. He's getting older, and he is a "surprise choice" and putting the megastar in the group gives them levity. KC Glenn will then "go through" the various members, getting beat up several times by the "jaded" wrestlers, before getting the title shot against Champion.

I'd have Champion defend the title with a cheap loss -- this would be a "screwy referee" finish -- and to compensate, KC Glenn would get both a rematch and a #1 Contender's Match.

Eventually, this will lead to a "three-way-dance" #1 Contenders match between Hawkins, Spade and Glenn. Wolf Hawkins would pin Spencer Spade to win -- and face off against Matty Faith for the World Title -- but KC Glenn would cost him the match. This would be a "double-turn" with the bitter Glenn costing Hawkins the championship.

KC Glenn would then beat Nicky Champion for the Intercontinental Title. Eventually, Wolf Hawkins would "chase" him, going through his former "stablemates", ending with Hawkins defeating Nicky Champion to win a shot at the Intercontinental Title.

I'd then give Hawkins the choice between either a World Title Shot or the Intercontinental Title in his match with Glenn. Wolf would forgo the Intercontinental Title to chase the World Title, and beat Glenn clean, and win the World Title sometime after.

Winter8905 · October 25, 2016

I've had an idea for a new mod or an adaption to be made to an existing mod either mod wide or company wide.

I was playing Civilisation V when I pondered if there could be company or mod that is set up based or downright copied around real kings/ queens/ rulers with important figured and even made up people based around their nationality.

If it was an entire mod there could be like a company in England "Empire Wrestling" perhaps queen Victoria as the owner, churchill as the booker or commentator. With perhaps Henry VIII as manager of a stable or somthing or in a Big Daddy role. Francis Drake as a Main eventer etc.

Scotland with King James as the owner, Robert Burns as your commentator.

America with a company, Washington or Lincoln as the owner, the other as the booker, have a stable for the Native Indians, Mafia stable, a couple of Patriots for your Main event Faces etc.

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Could even just be a promotion on an mod that's historically based, a stable for the Brits , a stable for the American, the Italians, Germans, Japanese, Greeks etc??

Reckon there's legs in the idea of historical based Mod or promotion?

cappyboy · October 26, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Winter8905" data-cite="Winter8905" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've had an idea for a new mod or an adaption to be made to an existing mod either mod wide or company wide. I was playing Civilisation V when I pondered if there could be company or mod that is set up based or downright copied around real kings/ queens/ rulers with important figured and even made up people based around their nationality. If it was an entire mod there could be like a company in England "Empire Wrestling" perhaps queen Victoria as the owner, churchill as the booker or commentator. With perhaps Henry VIII as manager of a stable or somthing or in a Big Daddy role. Francis Drake as a Main eventer etc. Scotland with King James as the owner, Robert Burns as your commentator. America with a company, Washington or Lincoln as the owner, the other as the booker, have a stable for the Native Indians, Mafia stable, a couple of Patriots for your Main event Faces etc. ........... Could even just be a promotion on an mod that's historically based, a stable for the Brits , a stable for the American, the Italians, Germans, Japanese, Greeks etc?? Reckon there's legs in the idea of historical based Mod or promotion?</div></blockquote> Honestly I might think the greater idea might be to do historical dramas rather than pure history. History could get messy with the heel and face turns. Do you really want to play Hitler or Idi Amin as a face? Or make a Mother Teresa the heel? But you do a Game Of Thrones, a Downtown Abbey, a China Beach. Upstairs, Downstairs. Much more room to play around with all those fictional characters than historical figures whose legacies are pretty well set.

Winter8905 · October 26, 2016

Downton Abbey set in a wrestling Ring sounds nuts XD like Russo Nuts.

But I get your point, certain instances it could work, Game o thrones style where the scores are settled in the ring may be good.

Victorian style promotion with fictional characters but everything is victorian set.

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I suppose it could work in Cverse to just insert a Victorian (or whatever) themed promotion. rather then trying to shoe horn a lot of themed companies into one mod.

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Wouldn't you want to book the ultimate challenging face turn?? turn Hitler Face? somehow, someway ?

The news reports would be worth it in itself. World War Wrestling are planning a face turn for Adolf Hitler

World World wrestling are planning on making Hermann Goering v Adolf Hitler the focus of the show for the next several months.

Mother Teresa heel turning and targeting inured people and making their injuries worse rather than better.

cappyboy · October 26, 2016

Downton Abbey set in a wrestling Ring sounds nuts XD like Russo Nuts.

But I get your point, certain instances it could work, Game o thrones style where the scores are settled in the ring may be good.

Victorian style promotion with fictional characters but everything is victorian set.
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I suppose it could work in Cverse to just insert a Victorian (or whatever) themed promotion. rather then trying to shoe horn a lot of themed companies into one mod.

.........

Or a Shakespeare style fed? You could have a Hamlet v Laertes main feud. The Capulets and Montagues as a stable war that Romeo and Juliet are trying to rise above. Maybe a Falstaff Challenge where you try to turn the bawdy knight into a Cena-esque face of the company over guys like Richard The Third and Duncan and Lear. Or some other fool character like Touchstone from As You Like It. Women trying to disguise their way into the men's ranks or vice versa like the Hurvina women's title reign WWE did circa 2000. Disguise games like that happen in several of the comedies. Love/mock hate romances like Beatrice and Benedick in Much Ado About Nothing.

I know that sounds bizarre at first. But get some of the plain English translations of the plays. I particularly like the No Fear Shakespeare series that is readily available at Barnes and Noble and Eugene Kusterer's All Clear Shakespeare series. Shouldn't take you too long to see the potential for yourself once you can end run around the stilted Elizabethan English of the original text.

Poputt · October 26, 2016

I definitely think theme promotions are a pretty fun idea. Although I think you'd only get away with an Iago face turn in certain parts of the deep south. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you really want to play Idi Amin as a face?</div></blockquote> I think Idi Amin is a big deal in Rastafarianism, so some crowds would like it.

Kijar · October 27, 2016

At one point, I fleshed out a Game of Thrones promotion mod, and Fleisch did the graphics for me, but I've since lost the data. Wouldn't mind giving it another whirl at some point if some crazy person starts aforementioned mod. <img alt="

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KnowYourEnemy · October 27, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Winter8905" data-cite="Winter8905" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Downton Abbey set in a wrestling Ring sounds nuts XD like Russo Nuts. But I get your point, certain instances it could work, Game o thrones style where the scores are settled in the ring may be good. Victorian style promotion with fictional characters but everything is victorian set. ......... I suppose it could work in Cverse to just insert a Victorian (or whatever) themed promotion. rather then trying to shoe horn a lot of themed companies into one mod. ......... Wouldn't you want to book the ultimate challenging face turn?? turn Hitler Face? somehow, someway ? The news reports would be worth it in itself. World War Wrestling are planning a face turn for Adolf Hitler World World wrestling are planning on making Hermann Goering v Adolf Hitler the focus of the show for the next several months. Mother Teresa heel turning and targeting inured people and making their injuries worse rather than better.</div></blockquote> How about a Vahalla-style tournament? Stage it in the "great beyond" in the "afterlife" -- outside of historical consequences. I'd avoid "pure evil" figures -- you can play most historical characters as "face" or "heel".

Captain2 · October 28, 2016

Running WCW in 2002, I've split my brands into Nitro and Thunder. Both have their own world champions but there's only one WCW world title so I have to make one out of thin air for Thunder. No lineage or anything really all that impressive, just on the spot. Scott Steiner was its first holder.

I've decided that the NWA World Heavyweight championship would make a better title in terms of percived prestige but practically I'm not sure. Would it be worth putting an alliance title as my Thunder world title? It's not entirely under my control but its the title of Dusty Rhodes and Ric Flair. Much better than the title of Steiner.

pantaloons · October 28, 2016

You could buy the retired AWA world title. The AWA folded over a decade ago in-game, so it's up to you to decide if the AWA name would be relevant enough for that to make sense.

KnowYourEnemy · October 29, 2016

Running WCW in 2002, I've split my brands into Nitro and Thunder. Both have their own world champions but there's only one WCW world title so I have to make one out of thin air for Thunder. No lineage or anything really all that impressive, just on the spot. Scott Steiner was its first holder.

I've decided that the NWA World Heavyweight championship would make a better title in terms of percived prestige but practically I'm not sure. Would it be worth putting an alliance title as my Thunder world title? It's not entirely under my control but its the title of Dusty Rhodes and Ric Flair. Much better than the title of Steiner.

How about keeping the NWA/World Title unassigned to a brand and splitting the Television Title into "Nitro" and "Thunder" belts? The "Thunder" Belt and "Nitro" Belt could be merged with the United States Title down the road to add prestige and limit the Midcard title numbers. You could then defend the "Television" Title obligations on Nitro or Thunder and the "United States" Title on PPV.

I'd do the same thing with the WCW World Tag Team Titles and Cruiserweight, with the title assigned to the champions brand -- this adds levity to non-brand specific PPVs. I'd personally go with a 6 Nitro/6 Thunder/6 Unassigned, giving you a PPV every three weeks.

jeronullet · October 31, 2016

Malice In Wonderland 2016

I've arrived at Malice In Wonderland after 1 month of booking TCW as Rocky Golden.

My main dilemma is how to debut Khoklov who I signed earlier in the month but has only wrestled some dark matches. I was thinking of him somehow affecting the outcome of the World Title match between Champion Andrews and Rocky Golden. Any suggestions? Should Andrews retain the title? How?

Other storylines

RDJ will defeat American Buffalo and end their feud.

Bach will come out on top in his feud with Vessey, eventually.

The Behemoths are going to face The New Wave for the Tag Titles. The plan is for the Behemoths to lose due to Killer Shark getting rage DQ'd. The Behemoths brutalize the New Wave so badly that they are suspended and stripped of their belts.

Another dilemma-

Should I have Joshua Taylor come out on top in the feud vs Wolf Hawkins?

Taylor could be very useful if he was more popular, but Hawkins might be needed to face Golden next...

KnowYourEnemy · October 31, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jeronullet" data-cite="jeronullet" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've arrived at Malice In Wonderland after 1 month of booking TCW as Rocky Golden. My main dilemma is how to debut Khoklov who I signed earlier in the month but has only wrestled some dark matches. I was thinking of him somehow affecting the outcome of the World Title match between Champion Andrews and Rocky Golden. Any suggestions? Should Andrews retain the title? How? Other storylines RDJ will defeat American Buffalo and end their feud. Bach will come out on top in his feud with Vessey, eventually. The Behemoths are going to face The New Wave for the Tag Titles. The plan is for the Behemoths to lose due to Killer Shark getting rage DQ'd. The Behemoths brutalize the New Wave so badly that they are suspended and stripped of their belts. Another dilemma- Should I have Joshua Taylor come out on top in the feud vs Wolf Hawkins? Taylor could be very useful if he was more popular, but Hawkins might be needed to face Golden next...</div></blockquote> The easiest thing here is to have Kholklov injure Golden after the Title Match and build to a Kholklov-Golden match next month. Show Rocky in video packages, hold a tribute to him next night. I'd personally go with an intentional count-out loss for Andrews and have Kholklov powerbomb Golden through the stage. Pair Kholklov with a manager. I'd consider the "Fast Buck" Floyd Goldworthy. I think he starts with The Behemoths Shark and Titan, but if not, they make natural sense here. Have the "suspended" Behemoths interfere on Kholklovs behalf in the PPV encounter -- sort of a "match/angle" or an "angle/match" with a beatdown afterwards. Then, Rocky would "swear revenge" on Goldworthy, and go through Titan, then Killer Shark, and finally defeat Kholklov -- I'd have Kholklov get a tainted win in the first match, Rocky win the rematch and the feud -- leading to a rubber match a few months down the road. Have Joshua Taylor defeat Wolf Hawkins in the feud. Unless you want to turn Hawkins face -- either way, the winner should emerge as the "next challenger" for Andrews. Johnson can be a good "stopgap" challenger after he goes over Buffalo, but he's likely on severe Time Decline and not that good in the ring -- maybe have the two headline a TV episode for the title? Bach likely is your best overall hand -- far superior to Rocky -- and barring Time Decline, could be your company ace. However, Andrews will likely only have held the belt for a couple months/few defenses, so Bach should lose their initial matchup -- but not clean. Either have Andrews cheat or have the Taylor/Hawkins loser "interfere" -- with them winning on TV and building momentum. I'd field an interim challenger until Rocky Golden finishes his feud with Kholklov. Some names to consider: Troy Tornado, Eddie Peak, Jay Chord, Elmo Benson and Human Arsenal. Chance Fortune, Andrews former partner, is capable of doing the job -- whoever you chose, remember to build their pop and momentum. I'd have Chance Fortune challenge Andrews, have him lose with a "screwy referee finish" on TV and schedule a PPV rematch. At this point, you can have Andrews drop the strap -- he'll have held it four-five months and have 4-5 defenses. You can then schedule either the Title Change or Title Rematch for Total Mayhem. Rocky and Bach will both have won feuds, be over and have momentum. I'd chose the one you want as the "face of the company" and turn the other -- a lot depends on variables. If Bach is over enough and can avoid time decline, he's clearly superior to Rocky in this position. After that, go straight into the Golden-Bach money fued.

jeronullet · November 1, 2016

Malice aftermath <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The easiest thing here is to have Kholklov injure Golden after the Title Match and build to a Kholklov-Golden match next month. Show Rocky in video packages, hold a tribute to him next night. I'd personally go with an intentional count-out loss for Andrews and have Kholklov powerbomb Golden through the stage. Pair Kholklov with a manager. I'd consider the "Fast Buck" Floyd Goldworthy. I think he starts with The Behemoths Shark and Titan, but if not, they make natural sense here. Have the "suspended" Behemoths interfere on Kholklovs behalf in the PPV encounter -- sort of a "match/angle" or an "angle/match" with a beatdown afterwards. Then, Rocky would "swear revenge" on Goldworthy, and go through Titan, then Killer Shark, and finally defeat Kholklov -- I'd have Kholklov get a tainted win in the first match, Rocky win the rematch and the feud -- leading to a rubber match a few months down the road. Have Joshua Taylor defeat Wolf Hawkins in the feud. Unless you want to turn Hawkins face -- either way, the winner should emerge as the "next challenger" for Andrews. Johnson can be a good "stopgap" challenger after he goes over Buffalo, but he's likely on severe Time Decline and not that good in the ring -- maybe have the two headline a TV episode for the title? Bach likely is your best overall hand -- far superior to Rocky -- and barring Time Decline, could be your company ace. However, Andrews will likely only have held the belt for a couple months/few defenses, so Bach should lose their initial matchup -- but not clean. Either have Andrews cheat or have the Taylor/Hawkins loser "interfere" -- with them winning on TV and building momentum. I'd field an interim challenger until Rocky Golden finishes his feud with Kholklov. Some names to consider: Troy Tornado, Eddie Peak, Jay Chord, Elmo Benson and Human Arsenal. Chance Fortune, Andrews former partner, is capable of doing the job -- whoever you chose, remember to build their pop and momentum. I'd have Chance Fortune challenge Andrews, have him lose with a "screwy referee finish" on TV and schedule a PPV rematch. At this point, you can have Andrews drop the strap -- he'll have held it four-five months and have 4-5 defenses. You can then schedule either the Title Change or Title Rematch for Total Mayhem. Rocky and Bach will both have won feuds, be over and have momentum. I'd chose the one you want as the "face of the company" and turn the other -- a lot depends on variables. If Bach is over enough and can avoid time decline, he's clearly superior to Rocky in this position. After that, go straight into the Golden-Bach money fued.</div></blockquote> Thanks, incredibly helpful. I went with the intentional countout and Khoklov attack on Golden just like you suggested. Goldworthy's with AmBuffalo so he could easily also manage Khoklov. I'm going to feud Golden with Khoklov and I'm going to give RDJ a last shot at the World Title against Andrews, he's in Time Decline but only 1-2 years. Right now, I'm leaning towards him winning it after putting his career on the line and losing it back shortly after winning it. On the Total Wrestling following Malice, Fortune did challenge Andrews and lost. Andrews continued with a postmatch beatdown until RDJ made the save. later on RDJ went on a rant that Andrews was an embarassment as World Champion because of the intentional DQ and his typical heel conduct. I like the Bach-Golden money feud idea down the line and maybe throwing Andrews back into the mix as well. Strangely, Freddy Huggins is putting up some high 80s match ratings as a midcarder, so he's definitely got my attention. I also hinted at Wolf Hawkins reaching out to Human Arsenal in an attempt to reform his own version of The Syndicate, but so far Arsenal(face) wants nothing ot do with that... If I did go with a New Syndicate or Syndicate II who would you put in the stable? Hill is 5 years into time decline, Human Arsenal is not in decline, Sam Keith is running MAW and is a road agent in PSW. I suppose he could be signed on a PPA deal as a manager type for the stable. Greg Gauge is a possibility(current MAW champ), Matthew Keith is in Japan and unavailable so far. Jay Chord fits in my mind...maybe Bryan Vessey as the enforcer(veteran) of the group. Any other ideas?

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