Official "Booking Committee" Thread

[Koholos]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm, I was thinking of Kurt Angle just to give him at least one more accolade to his accomplishments, but I think your idea better.<p> </p><p> On a side note, Cesaro and Angle's feud is actually face vs face. They are fighting to see who really is the best wrestler in WWE.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think the one way it might make sense to crown Angle is if he won off some cheap thing which wasn't actually his fault. Then you theoretically book a feud between Angle and Zayn, with Zayn claiming to be rightful King of the Ring. Unfortunately, the only way I really see that feud going is basically a Michaels v Taker at WM 26, where Zayn challenges Angle to enter next years KotR, and Angle says he'll retire if he doesn't win the crown again.</p><p> </p><p> Then again, if you set something up where Zayn challenges Angle for KotR 2018, and gets knocked out at semi-finalist by the person who then beats Angle to retire him, you can use Angle to build heat for 2 wrestlers, and 2 feuds.</p>

[vbase]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Koholos" data-cite="Koholos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have a couple more questions. The first is another 'theory' question I guess. And the other is more about the 'Storylines' menu.<p> </p><p> First - I'm pretty good at booking stable vs stable, and team vs team, or whatever. But I'm really bad at just booking straight 1 on 1, face vs heel feuds. I feel like it either falls into "Heel beats face a few times, possibly using cheap tactics. Face powers up and proves it by beating some other people. Face beats Heel" or "Heel interferes in a bunch of matches. Face reciprocates (depending on how nice the face is.) Face beats heel in an actual match." I feel like either of those leaves the face as the feud's 'loser' in TEW terms (it's appropriate dramatically, but he's lost way more matches).</p><p> </p><p> What are some other ways to book 1 v 1 storylines to balance out a bit (alternatively, should I make a new thread to not clutter this one with stuff like this?)</p><p> </p><p> Second, after watching Wrestle Kingdom, I was inspired to try my hand at a longer frame storyline. So, I'm planning a 2-3 year storyline which leads to new acquisition Jimmy 'Mainstream' Hernandez eventually challenging Rocky Golden for position as figurehead and winning, turning Rocky heel in the process. However, due to storyline decay, obviously I can't have a major storyline between them yet. </p><p> </p><p> How would you handle it? Book a storyline where Jimmy is the only main character, and have Rocky as support, and then cycle in people as he challenges them? Or would you book his few interactions with Rocky more as simple foreshadowing, and not include Rocky in a storyline until Hernandez is ready to feud with him?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For the first part, I have had the same problem. Although, in the storylines part it suggests that there is no loser or winner of a feud, the feature is just there for illustrative purpose i.e. to keep a track of how well the worker is doing (<a href="http://i.imgur.com/AxImjA1.png" rel="external nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/AxImjA1.png</a>). The thing that I found worked is having extra workers in the feud. For example, in real life example, James Ellsworth in the Styles vs Ambrose feud. You can have a jobber there taking the losses, or two, both for the heel and the face. However, I suggest that you have there guys you want to push and develop. </p><p> </p><p> For example, I want AJ Styles (heel) to feud with John Cena (face), both of whom are main event talents. So these are the two main people of the storyline. I also want to push Apollo Crews (face) and Noam Dar (heel), both are let's say, Openers or Lower Midcarders. I have a PPV every 4 weeks. So between these weeks, I would have AJ fight Crews and beat him and same with Cena and Dar. I would also have angles with Cena and Styles and sometimes also involve Crews and Dar. Now I can't have just the same match all 4 weeks till the PPV. So I mix things up, with tag matches etc. Have the lower guys take the pin. This will not only not affect AJ or Cena's momentum or popularity, but also elevate Apollo Crews and Noam Dar. It will also develop their skills. Not only that but if I have a Crews vs AJ match or Dar vs Cena match, it will progress the story. Here's some other things I did as well (<a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2212153&postcount=7" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2212153&postcount=7</a>) just for the idea, but these were before discovering the above trick.</p><p> </p><p> For the second, there are a lot of ways of doing this. The first is just to assume it happened, like every other thing. Assume they are both in a storyline, both are involved some way or another. It's all up to what you think. There's no real audience to judge that. </p><p> </p><p> Another way would be to have them both have separate feuds and both involved in each other storyline as a minor role. Then transfer them both to the main storyline at the end. A tip would be to not start a new storyline when you want them to feud, transfer one of them to pre-existing storyline of the other. This is because new storylines are harder to elevate and keep constant heat. New storylines lose heat fast and big and are unstable in that way, old ones have history and thus lose lesser heat. If I have a new storyline at 100, it's easy for it to go 50 next week with bad angles. However if you have an old storyline with 90 heat, some bad angles will bring it down to 80-85. However, I must say, adding new people to storylines makes the storyline lose some heat.</p><p> </p><p> For example, have Cena feud with Miz and Ambrose feud with AJ, and have both Cena and AJ as minor roles in the other storyline. Once you are ready for AJ vs Cena, transfer either Cena to the AJ storyline or AJ to the Cena storyline.</p><p> </p><p> One last way, and the best idea that struck me right now, would be to have both the feuds in a single storyline. Have Cena vs Miz and AJ vs Ambrose in the same storyline. That way if you want AJ vs Cena, you won't have to transfer between storylines and that way, the storyline would not lose heat.</p>

[SanX]

<p>Help?</p><p> </p><p>

I wanted to know, how people manage roster and their pop. Who to and when to push?</p><p> </p><p>

Now my question: In my current game, my promotion is on verge on becoming national.(7 months in game time-custom promotion) My product is Pop=performance a lot similar to WLW.</p><p> </p><p>

My problem is- I have 2 guys who are 80+(fairly young) with 6 others at 60-67 pop. Thing is, all the UM's and most of ME's are on Decline(most of them are like 4-5 years already.) </p><p> </p><p>

Most of the midcarders are sitting on 20-30 pop with highest being 40. UM's are useless in the ring as they have already detoriated in their stats.one of them is owner and his best friend so they won't job. None of my ME's wants job I already have 2 on CC so they won't too.Mid card matches never score more than 50-60 with steal the show note being exception.</p><p> </p><p>

I am spamming combinations between 4 of my top guys in main events and storylines to sustain grades. </p><p> </p><p>

So how I can push my new guys to the top? UM are on the verge of retirement with most in 40-45 range. In few months, I will need to change my whole top of the card but if most of them wont job, how will I able to transfer the POP? My product is Pop=performance a lot similar to WLW.</p>

[NewZealandfan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SanX" data-cite="SanX" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wanted to know, how people manage roster and their pop. Who to and when to push?<p> </p><p> Now my question: In my current game, my promotion is on verge on becoming national.(7 months in game time-custom promotion) My product is Pop=performance a lot similar to WLW.</p><p> </p><p> My problem is- I have 2 guys who are 80+(fairly young) with 6 others at 60-67 pop. Thing is, all the UM's and most of ME's are on Decline(most of them are like 4-5 years already.) </p><p> </p><p> Most of the midcarders are sitting on 20-30 pop with highest being 40. UM's are useless in the ring as they have already detoriated in their stats.one of them is owner and his best friend so they won't job. None of my ME's wants job I already have 2 on CC so they won't too.Mid card matches never score more than 50-60 with steal the show note being exception.</p><p> </p><p> I am spamming combinations between 4 of my top guys in main events and storylines to sustain grades. </p><p> </p><p> So how I can push my new guys to the top? UM are on the verge of retirement with most in 40-45 range. In few months, I will need to change my whole top of the card but if most of them wont job, how will I able to transfer the POP? My product is Pop=performance a lot similar to WLW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is there any free agents with good pop you can bring in for like a month long deal to lech sum pop of maybe if you can find like three guys with some ties and run a mini feud with your UM invasion type angel helps to know what data your using to mate <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[SanX]

CLverse America. Almost all of the guys with pop are under the Written. Marat Khoklov Doesn't wanna sign with me. I was grabbing anybody who was released from top 4( house rules- peter michaels is my character and I have imposed this rule on me just for fun.)

[Koholos]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SanX" data-cite="SanX" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wanted to know, how people manage roster and their pop. Who to and when to push?<p> </p><p> Now my question: In my current game, my promotion is on verge on becoming national.(7 months in game time-custom promotion) My product is Pop=performance a lot similar to WLW.</p><p> </p><p> My problem is- I have 2 guys who are 80+(fairly young) with 6 others at 60-67 pop. Thing is, all the UM's and most of ME's are on Decline(most of them are like 4-5 years already.) </p><p> </p><p> Most of the midcarders are sitting on 20-30 pop with highest being 40. UM's are useless in the ring as they have already detoriated in their stats.one of them is owner and his best friend so they won't job. None of my ME's wants job I already have 2 on CC so they won't too.Mid card matches never score more than 50-60 with steal the show note being exception.</p><p> </p><p> I am spamming combinations between 4 of my top guys in main events and storylines to sustain grades. </p><p> </p><p> So how I can push my new guys to the top? UM are on the verge of retirement with most in 40-45 range. In few months, I will need to change my whole top of the card but if most of them wont job, how will I able to transfer the POP? My product is Pop=performance a lot similar to WLW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First of all, I would freeze yourself at cult for now. If you jump up to National before you have the numbers in place to stay there, you're just going to crash back down again. And it sounds like you're just barely pulling in the numbers you need.</p><p> </p><p> I might try seeing if you can do a bit of 'failing up the card'. Take some LM's, book them to lose against the UM's and ME's, but always using the 'keep strong' note. Maybe even add some DQ or other cheap losses. Then, give the ones who are good at talking a bunch of promos saying that next match, they'll do it. </p><p> </p><p> Meanwhile, pick 2 Midcarders and let them run roughshod over the rest of the midcard. Once they've built a few wins, and their pop is a bit higher, feel free to also throw them some wins off the LM's. These are the two you're going to build up. If one of them is a menacing heel, they can also have promos where they run in and destroy 2 ME wrestlers right after a match. After they have a solid streak, you can probably get those two to go over your stubborn high-card guys.</p>

[Meerkatz]

<p>I have Randy Summers part of a stable led by AJ Styles and being managed by Maria Kanelis. Both Maria and Styles are benefiting Summers.</p><p> </p><p>

My plan is to have Styles and Summers win the tag team titles. Is this a good way to build Summers pop? Or would it do more damage to AJ Styles?</p>

[Jarelskovic]

Im Playing modern day TNA and i want a cool name for a tournament, any suggestions will be appreciated

[Meerkatz]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jarelskovic" data-cite="Jarelskovic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Im Playing modern day TNA and i want a cool name for a tournament, any suggestions will be appreciated</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What's the tournament for? What kind of tournament is it?</p>

[Koholos]

<p>Planning a TCW brand split, as I have about 65 wrestlers on the roster. I've gone through and figured out who's going to be on each brand, but I'm not sure which focus I should give them.</p><p> </p><p>

One brand is going to be centered around flashy fliers - like Edd Stone, Sammy Bach and Jefferson Stardust - while also having several big bruisers - Remo being the central heel, as well as Titan and Killer Shark.</p><p> </p><p>

The other is going to be more built around brawlers and mat guys - Aaron Andrews, Eddie Peak, Mighty Mo - and some aging superstars like Lobster Warrior and Skull DeBones. </p><p> </p><p>

Both are going to have melodramatic "sports entertainment" storylines, with mostly realistic characters.</p><p> </p><p>

I was originally thinking "Daredevil" and "Cult", but that doesn't quite feel right.</p>

[Russelrules44]

<p>Planning on making a new stable akin to the NWO. (Without the many additions that came after)</p><p> </p><p>

Braun Strowman, Cody Hall (developmental guy who has improved significantly during the last few months) Kevin Owens are all going to be a part of it; Kevin Nash will also take part as their mentor. (He's currently managing Strowman)</p><p> </p><p>

Just a few things I need to go over with you guys. What should I name the stable (NWO is too obvious for me) and more importantly, how should I debut the stable?</p>

[jjohns44]

<p>I like Michael Tarver's post-WWE Monster Tarver gimmick, so would like to utilize it with my company and wanted to give him a name.</p><p>

Had been batting the idea of using the TKO anagram for him(yeah hokey, but realistic enough for wrestling)</p><p>

T(Tyrone his real name, or Tarver)</p><p>

but stuck on something I could use for the K-O</p><p>

so if you might have any name suggestions that flow with Tyrone(or Tarver) I'd be much appreciative!</p>

[Koholos]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Planning on making a new stable akin to the NWO. (Without the many additions that came after)<p> </p><p> Braun Strowman, Cody Hall (developmental guy who has improved significantly during the last few months) Kevin Owens are all going to be a part of it; Kevin Nash will also take part as their mentor. (He's currently managing Strowman)</p><p> </p><p> Just a few things I need to go over with you guys. What should I name the stable (NWO is too obvious for me) and more importantly, how should I debut the stable?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I feel like I reply to this thread too frequently, but I'm doing it again anyway.</p><p> </p><p> If you have Kevin Nash, and a guy with the last name of Hall, the stable name is obvious - they're The Outsiders.</p><p> </p><p> As far as Owens and Rhodes goes, being indie guys who came into the WWE gives them motivation and a way to debut - they're pissed that they had to make their names before WWE would even look at them. Sort of like the CM Punk storyline, but rather than trying to "change" WWE, they just want to dismantle it, so that indie feds have a better chance to grow.</p><p> </p><p> So, it could debut by beating up some of the WWE 'loyalists' - John Cena, Undertaker, and other guys who have basically come up though WWE feeder leagues.</p>

[kingjames]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Koholos" data-cite="Koholos" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I feel like I reply to this thread too frequently, but I'm doing it again anyway.<p> </p><p> If you have Kevin Nash, and a guy with the last name of Hall, the stable name is obvious - they're The Outsiders.</p><p> </p><p> As far as Owens and Rhodes goes, being indie guys who came into the WWE gives them motivation and a way to debut - they're pissed that they had to make their names before WWE would even look at them. Sort of like the CM Punk storyline, but rather than trying to "change" WWE, they just want to dismantle it, so that indie feds have a better chance to grow.</p><p> </p><p> So, it could debut by beating up some of the WWE 'loyalists' - John Cena, Undertaker, and other guys who have basically come up though WWE feeder leagues.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you call them the "New Outsiders", you can sell t-shirts where the stable's name is written as the "NeW Outsiders". For that extra little touch of a reference that everyone will make anyway <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[wwfmark]

Looking for some advice on who to sign on my RW mod. Starting up a small Indy fed in the SW and the 8 guys I have under written contracts are Omega, Lethal, Scurll, Strong, Mike Bennett, Rusev, Cesaro and Ricochet. Have some people signed up PPA deals but looking for more suggestions to bulk up my roster. Not trying to go with huge names as these 8 are to be my biggest names on the roster.

[Tazzerman]

I want to split up American Alpha and have Kurt Angle manage whoever turns heel and then push both as serious single wrestlers.

 

Who do you think I should turn heel and have Angle tutor? I'm thinking Jordan is the one who needs more help with mic work etc.

 

Also any ideas how to book it?

[sportsfanmas]

I have a question about booking "B shows". I am debating on whether to have a bunch of matches with enhancement talent and openers and mid-carders against each other, or have a few matches with main eventers dominating those openers and such, or a mix. Just trying to figure out what everybody else does.

 

My first Impact in my TNA Dynasty was horrible and I need to make it better.

 

Also, do storylines need to be advanced on B shows too? Is there a penalty for not advancing a storyline on a B show?

 

Thanks

[SanX]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sportsfanmas" data-cite="sportsfanmas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have a question about booking "B shows". I am debating on whether to have a bunch of matches with enhancement talent and openers and mid-carders against each other, or have a few matches with main eventers dominating those openers and such, or a mix. Just trying to figure out what everybody else does.<p> </p><p> My first Impact in my TNA Dynasty was horrible and I need to make it better.</p><p> </p><p> Also, do storylines need to be advanced on B shows too? Is there a penalty for not advancing a storyline on a B show?</p><p> </p><p> Thanks</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You only need to have one angle or match based on your storyline once a week to sustain the heat.</p><p> </p><p> B show is the place where you can showcase your lower card. Keep your ME/UM strictly wrestling on the A-shows as they can get more POP there rather than your B show. You can also use it get back momentum for the MC's who lost against ME's on your A-show.</p><p> </p><p> As for your dynasty,Book how TNA would book in real life. </p><p> </p><p> Midcarder Vs Midcarder or a popular LM should be your main event for B show. Hell, here you can also have a Women's division match.</p><p> </p><p> Have an angle with your top guys ala video package to continue their storyline.</p><p> </p><p> Lower card should be filled up with guys you want to push in the future or guys you want push but don't have pop in US in 1v1 or tag match.</p><p> </p><p> Dump few of your LM/Enhancement and Openers against each other in 3v3 match to open the show, similar to how TNA do in terms of their X-division. Just so they can get momentum and your young guys can raise their skill. Throw an occasional tag team or midcarder too.</p>

[KnowYourEnemy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sportsfanmas" data-cite="sportsfanmas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have a question about booking "B shows". I am debating on whether to have a bunch of matches with enhancement talent and openers and mid-carders against each other, or have a few matches with main eventers dominating those openers and such, or a mix. Just trying to figure out what everybody else does.<p> </p><p> My first Impact in my TNA Dynasty was horrible and I need to make it better.</p><p> </p><p> Also, do storylines need to be advanced on B shows too? Is there a penalty for not advancing a storyline on a B show?</p><p> </p><p> Thanks</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Put guys on the show in the upper mid-card or the mid-card in squash matches to get their momentum back. Also, it's a great place to keep lower card tag teams strong, either against enhancement talent or local talent. </p><p> </p><p> Second, place "recap segments" from the main show to bring up the rating and keep heat. </p><p> </p><p> The score doesn't matter. You aren't going to lose popularity over a "B" show.</p>

[RoadRage]

I'm using the 2001 Mod with the WCW and I'm trying to recreate a Four Horseman stable. Currently, I have Ric Flair, Steve Corino but I need two more wrestlers.

 

Any suggestion ?

[DatIsraeliGuy]

I'm using the 2001 Mod with the WCW and I'm trying to recreate a Four Horseman stable. Currently, I have Ric Flair, Steve Corino but I need two more wrestlers.

 

Any suggestion ?

 

Hire some young, promising wrestlers:

CM Punk, Colt Cabana, John Cena and more are available from the get go, Bryan Danielson debuts in 2002 I think

[The Dynamite Sid]

I'm using the 2001 Mod with the WCW and I'm trying to recreate a Four Horseman stable. Currently, I have Ric Flair, Steve Corino but I need two more wrestlers.

 

Any suggestion ?

 

Mark Jindrak had the look of a Horseman to me. The guy looked like a million dollars

[cappyboy]

Mark Jindrak had the look of a Horseman to me. The guy looked like a million dollars

 

Don't know that Jindrak was established enough at the time though. He certainly had a star look and I very much enjoyed his Reflection of Perfection bit later on in WWE. But I can't see Flair and Corino taking a guy like that on. And even if they would I would think more of AJ Styles than Jindrak. Styles was a pretty hot up and comer at that time.

 

But even at that, the Horsemen always had guys who had a pre-existing star profile going in. Jindrak never really had that despite the look. Since you're bringing guys in from the outside, what's Tazz doing in your game? He may never have been the biggest dog in the fight but his power and skill would have enjoyed great respect in Horsemen-like circles. Raven gradually returning to his Scotty The Body roots and eventually trying to usurp Flair as head Horsemen could be really compelling. Ditto Buff Bagwell if you want a guy with more WCW roots. Are Vicious & Delicious still together as a tag team? You'd have Norton as the methodical power guy enforcer and Bagwell as the pretty boy secretly trying to learn how to succeed Flair right from the source himself. Maybe Flair sees Bagwell as a protege until Buff's treachery comes to light.

[The Dynamite Sid]

Don't know that Jindrak was established enough at the time though. He certainly had a star look and I very much enjoyed his Reflection of Perfection bit later on in WWE. But I can't see Flair and Corino taking a guy like that on. And even if they would I would think more of AJ Styles than Jindrak. Styles was a pretty hot up and comer at that time.

 

But even at that, the Horsemen always had guys who had a pre-existing star profile going in. Jindrak never really had that despite the look. Since you're bringing guys in from the outside, what's Tazz doing in your game? He may never have been the biggest dog in the fight but his power and skill would have enjoyed great respect in Horsemen-like circles. Raven gradually returning to his Scotty The Body roots and eventually trying to usurp Flair as head Horsemen could be really compelling. Ditto Buff Bagwell if you want a guy with more WCW roots. Are Vicious & Delicious still together as a tag team? You'd have Norton as the methodical power guy enforcer and Bagwell as the pretty boy secretly trying to learn how to succeed Flair right from the source himself. Maybe Flair sees Bagwell as a protege until Buff's treachery comes to light.

 

You're crazy. Mark Jindrak is the spiritual successor to Paul Roma (AKA The Best Horesman) and you know it. Although Bagwell would be a fine choice to fill Roma's sizeable shoes, also

 

 

EDIT: How about Mike Awesome? Heaven knows Mike Awesome in 2001 WCW could do with a gimmick change and he certainly has the skill and size to be a fine enforcer. Hell, if he picks up a few ounces of Flair's stardust on the microphone he could be a bona fide main eventer

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Dynamite Sid" data-cite="The Dynamite Sid" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're crazy. Mark Jindrak is the spiritual successor to Paul Roma (AKA The Best Horesman) and you know it. Although Bagwell would be a fine choice to fill Roma's sizeable shoes, also<p> </p><p> </p><p> EDIT: How about Mike Awesome? Heaven knows Mike Awesome in 2001 WCW could do with a gimmick change and he certainly has the skill and size to be a fine enforcer. Hell, if he picks up a few ounces of Flair's stardust on the microphone he could be a bona fide main eventer</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Except that Paul Roma had already made a name for himself by the time he was a Horseman. Not as big as other guys who had been Horsemen prior and had been arguably better fits. But decent size. Jindrak never seemed to manage that.</p><p> </p><p> As for Mike Awesome, I don't know he would have gotten respect from the Horsemen braintrust. No doubt he had a great blend of size and skills. And I could agree with you about having the potential to grow main event caliber entertainment skills. The guy had a knack for taking creative lemons and making grade A lemonade with them. But that talent for taking gimmicks that should have been horrible and making them work might have been the very reason the Horsemen wouldn't give him the time of day. They'd likely have seen him as too big of buffoon to have been worthy of Horseman status. Shame really but I can't see Awesome as a Horseman and I'm very much a Mike Awesome guy.</p>