Mods By Fleisch

[TheWho87]

In case you missed it Bete Noire is now going by the name Jayla Dark.

[Fleisch]

Just a quick question

 

I know you have received a lot of negativity online for favouring the stars in Japan etc over America in terms of popularity, will this be fixed in the next mod update?

 

Little confused but I'll try and explain the world again (if it sounds like I'm being a dick, it's not to you personally but I struggle with diplomacy when explaining things).

 

Who would sell more tickets? Okada in Japan or John Cena in Japan? All I can say to those who are complaining is that they should maybe step out of the WWE bubble for a minute and educate themselves on the WORLD of pro wrestling. NJPW is more popular in Japan than WWE so a lot of their wrestlers are going to be more over in that area, just like John Cena is more over in America than all Japanese workers. I'm not making a WWE2K mod at the end of the day. The mod has more fans than it does haters which tells me I'm doing something right.

 

If I reverse their locations... Okada is F+ in America, John Cena is B in Japan sooooo... (I'm using them as the examples as they are pretty much the #1 stars of both areas) How is that favouring Japanese workers?

 

Examples of who should be more over in Japan than Okada would be good to hear from people. I could maybe see AJ Styles, Finn Balor & Shinsuke Nakamura as the closest to Okada in terms of WWE wrestlers who are over in Japan but none who should be more over.

 

With regard to those who think I "favour" Japanese wrestling, my favourite promotions to watch are old school ECW, CHIKARA (who last I looked were in the Tri-State) and WWE circa 1995-1999. Can someone explain how that makes me Japan bias?

 

I personally don't think it needs "fixed" but hopefully that answers your question.

 

Still wondering.

Zero-1 is called that for no other reason than I liked the name and it had logo's for Japan, America & Mexico which was what I was looking for in terms of a huge promotion based over 3 areas. Sorry it's not anything more spectacular than that I'm afraid.

[EdinburghBoy]

Little confused but I'll try and explain the world again (if it sounds like I'm being a dick, it's not to you personally but I struggle with diplomacy when explaining things).

 

Who would sell more tickets? Okada in Japan or John Cena in Japan? All I can say to those who are complaining is that they should maybe step out of the WWE bubble for a minute and educate themselves on the WORLD of pro wrestling. NJPW is more popular in Japan than WWE so a lot of their wrestlers are going to be more over in that area, just like John Cena is more over in America than all Japanese workers. I'm not making a WWE2K mod at the end of the day. The mod has more fans than it does haters which tells me I'm doing something right.

 

If I reverse their locations... Okada is F+ in America, John Cena is B in Japan sooooo... (I'm using them as the examples as they are pretty much the #1 stars of both areas) How is that favouring Japanese workers?

 

Examples of who should be more over in Japan than Okada would be good to hear from people. I could maybe see AJ Styles, Finn Balor & Shinsuke Nakamura as the closest to Okada in terms of WWE wrestlers who are over in Japan but none who should be more over.

 

With regard to those who think I "favour" Japanese wrestling, my favourite promotions to watch are old school ECW, CHIKARA (who last I looked were in the Tri-State) and WWE circa 1995-1999. Can someone explain how that makes me Japan bias?

 

I personally don't think it needs "fixed" but hopefully that answers your question.

 

Yeah man that answers my question. I think some folk were getting annoyed with "oh tye dillenger is so over but he only gets 35s. When in reality he may be over in real life but he was picked up from a developmental deal. I do think some ROH guys need a bit more pop cause they are everywhere now, but after reading that I do understand you logic. It's like putting jack jester over in Britain but not in Japan. Just on that thought progress is holding a show in new York so who ever wrestles on that show may need to be avalible in America from now on and gain pop in the tri state area, Jimmy Havoc just won the czw tournament of death so he should get pop where ever they are based (think they are tri state but can't remember)

 

Have you taken nxt off sky sports yet? I know that sprung up in a previous mod.

 

Can't think of much else tbh, you know I always love your mods, as they bring that "book and get over" mentallity

[Jaysin]

Zero-1 is called that for no other reason than I liked the name and it had logo's for Japan, America & Mexico which was what I was looking for in terms of a huge promotion based over 3 areas. Sorry it's not anything more spectacular than that I'm afraid.

 

Fair enough! I too love their name.

[ZakZero]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Examples of who should be more over in Japan than Okada would be good to hear from people. I could maybe see AJ Styles, Finn Balor & Shinsuke Nakamura as the closest to Okada in terms of WWE wrestlers who are over in Japan but none who should be more over.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just gonna put this image here and slowly walk away... (at least just as over)</p><p> <img alt="Kenny-Omega-G1-climax-lead.jpg?itok=H0wLuCwS" data-src="https://cdn-s3.si.com/styles/marquee_large_2x/s3/images/Kenny-Omega-G1-climax-lead.jpg?itok=H0wLuCwS" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Also, with their 6* and 6.25* matches, Okada and Omega need to be the top two workers in the world on the Power 500. Just some suggestions. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Bluestillidie00]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ZakZero" data-cite="ZakZero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just gonna put this image here and slowly walk away... (at least just as over)<p> -SNIP-</p><p> </p><p> Also, with their 6* and 6.25* matches, Okada and Omega need to be the top two workers in the world on the Power 500. Just some suggestions. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd put him 3 or 4 points lower.</p><p> </p><p> Agree with the workers comment though, mine would probably look something like</p><p> Okada</p><p> Omega</p><p> AJ Styles</p><p> Hiromu</p><p> Naito</p>

[Larrikn]

i feel like Kushida is a little underrated he's amazing in ring just lacks the charisma to be an Ace

[vtechguy]

Let's calm down guys, I didn't know we had so many people named Mark around here. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[DatIsraeliGuy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vtechguy" data-cite="vtechguy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Let's calm down guys, I didn't know we had so many people named Mark around here. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 1. This is a wrestling forum, you should expect it</p><p> 2. Fleisch asked for opinions, and they simply replied.</p>

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="vtechguy" data-cite="vtechguy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Let's calm down guys, I didn't know we had so many people named Mark around here. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Vtech, you know there is no need for comments like this. As pointed out, Fleisch asked for opinions and all that the posts in response to that did was provide a response in a respectful manner.</p><p> </p><p> Please follow their lead.</p>

[Derek B]

While there is no doubt a lot of talented guys, the in-game Power 500 doesn't just take pure talent as it's way of ranking people. It also takes into account popularity, while not taking into account things like how active a worker really is, wear and tear or momentum so the original Power 500 that the game generates is never quite going to line up with expectations. That said, here are the top 10s from the last sim I ran on the data as it stood a few days ago.

 

2016 (1-10): Hiroshi Tanahashi, AJ Styles, John Cena, Kazuchika Okada, Seth Rollins, Shinsuke Nakamura, Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Triple H, Ultimo Guerrero.

 

2017 (1-10, simmed from June): Kazuchika Okada, Randy Orton, Kenny Omega, Roman Reigns, Tetsuya Naito, Kevin Owens, Kota Ibushi, Seth Rollins, Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose.

 

Wyatt got a monster push in that sim, with AJ Styles seemingly fighting directionless midcarders a lot for no obvious reason probably costing him a top 10 spot. Randy Orton is Smackdown champ too and has had some great matches. But I think those are some pretty decent rankings for the game.

[mikemanwba]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="alpha2117" data-cite="alpha2117" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Toni Storm (current Progress Women's Champion), NXT Stars, Lacey Evans and Sarah Logan, and Princesa Sugehit (who has 20 years of experience, working for companies such as CMLL and AAA) were announced in WWE's article. </p><p> </p><p> So Princesa probably needs a PPA contract with the WWE & Toni needs to be set so she can work in the USA. I am unsure what her contract status is - I know the intention was to sign her long term to a developmental contract but no word on if that's been done so it might be safer just to set her for a PPA as well.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Toni just became PROGRESS Women's Champion so if anything it will be a similar deal to BSS/Andrews/Wolfgang etc.</p><p> </p><p> Also, Bianca Blair is engaged to Montez Ford (Both NXT, confirmed on WWE.com)</p><p> </p><p> Ford is also in a tag team with Angelo Dawkins called The Street Prophets (apologies if this is already in)</p>

[Hurrikane]

<p>Hey, thanks for all of your work on this mod, it's my absolute go to. I have a question that I think I know the answer to but thought I'd check I'm not missing something.</p><p> </p><p>

I like to go through all the worker stats and tweak them to my liking but then when there's a new update I don't want to download and overwrite the work I did. That said, I would like the updated changes. Other than doing them myself, is there a way of updating but keeping my custom worker stats? I did think maybe I could import them into a new mod but I presume I'd lose all the contracts?</p><p> </p><p>

Any help appreciated!</p>

[vtechguy]

Let's give my girl, Nia Jax, some love. She's been very menacing lately to Alexa Bliss. Plus, she did that whole modeling gig.

[Derek B]

Her camera skills are already at 71/66/72, she's getting plenty of love there... just don't look at her other skills if you want to push her.

 

For serious though... a lot of work has gone into making the stats more up to date and as close to reality as possible. While there is always more work that can be done due to the nature of keeping a mod up to date, I think the latest version of Flesich's work is going to blow everyone away. I can't wait to start playing it properly, I love me some Fog Of War and growing a small company up though the ranks.

[alpha2117]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mikemanwba" data-cite="mikemanwba" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Toni just became PROGRESS Women's Champion so if anything it will be a similar deal to BSS/Andrews/Wolfgang etc.<p> </p><p> Also, Bianca Blair is engaged to Montez Ford (Both NXT, confirmed on WWE.com)</p><p> </p><p> Ford is also in a tag team with Angelo Dawkins called The Street Prophets (apologies if this is already in)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If she has signed a Dev deal she'll drop that belt - the WWE has been letting people finish out their commitments and that's whats happened in the past with those that have signed full deals. People tend to be hush hush about signing until all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed so as not to sour things. With the CWC several of them had signed deals going into the event but those deals were not announced until after to try to kayfabe the results somewhat. Given the final of the MY is a few months off there's no hurry on anyone's part so I expect anyone announced to just be PPA until we know different.</p>

[mikemanwba]

<p>I'm sure this goes without saying, but just in case, SPOILER</p><p>

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Maria Kanellis and Mike Bennett (now Kanellis) debuted at MITB as part of SmackDown Live. Weird Power of Love gimmick, not sure what that would be classed as on TEW</p>

[mjmiller2010]

This is no big deal if they aren't, but I'm curious if Riddick Moss and Tino Sabbatelli have been added to NXT?

[Fleisch]

This is no big deal if they aren't, but I'm curious if Riddick Moss and Tino Sabbatelli have been added to NXT?

 

If they are listed in the second post as having been added then they are. If not then not at present.

[shawn michaels]

When will the next update be released? Not pressuring, just curious, as your work is always good.

[mjmiller2010]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When will the next update be released? Not pressuring, just curious, as your work is always good.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I believe I read on twitter that it'll be released on July 1st</p>

[Big Roguey]

Just noticed Viper being added to ATTACK. She's not worked ATTACK yet, she worked Lucha Forever as Vice Officer Viper. Would be best just to add that as an alter ego rather than adding her to the promotion as a whole.

[SheepFM]

Love your work. However, ive noticed that Tommy Ends character in NXT should be spelt as Aleister Black. Also as of the 19th of June Zack Gibson should be the ICW ZeroG champion

[Aeidos]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mjmiller2010" data-cite="mjmiller2010" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I believe I read on twitter that it'll be released on July 1st</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Does Fleish have twitter?</p>

[Ogyaf]

<p>Various workers on Twitter -- such as <a href="https://twitter.com/KassiusOhno/status/877044867750297600" rel="external nofollow">Chris Hero</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/KingstonImpact7/status/877047743801327618" rel="external nofollow">Eddie Kingston</a>, and <a href="https://twitter.com/FightOwensFight/status/877052200660471813" rel="external nofollow">Kevin Owens</a>, to cite examples -- are noting that AIW owner Chandler Biggins has passed away.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Edit: <a href="https://twitter.com/aiwrestling/status/877119636336193536" rel="external nofollow">AIW</a> has mentioned it on Twitter now as well.</p>