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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="miamarsden" data-cite="miamarsden" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Couple minor things, still necessary IMO.<p> </p><p> Kota Ibushi in the data is set as heterosexual, he should be set as bisexual.</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Jessicka Love is set as a male, as they have transitioned, they should be set as a female (as I'm a transgender person myself, that's the way I see it), and I personally would like to see her description edited myself to where it's just she, but that's just a personal complaint I have. (Waits for the hate)</strong></p><p> </p><p> Also, considering the substantial evidence I've seen towards it, Balor and Owens should be set as best friends, as Owens has even called Balor one of his best friends and they do selfies together all the time.</p><p> </p><p> As usual, thanks for your hard work <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No hate here but just one minor complaint, being set as a female will eventually make the game set him/her as pregnant and making stories like "Gave birth to a healthy boy/girl" etc. Wouldn't make much sense imo as they can't become pregnant themselves.</p><p> </p><p> Also Fleisch I'm having a blast with the (not so now) recent data, I'm 8 years into the game so far the longest I've ever done!</p>
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<p>Just an idea that may be useful or future updates since this one is on the brink of being released already (if gimmicks have already been addressed, my apology in advance but I haven't been as active lately). Having tried to work with various updates and update the gimmick files from scratch, it's a lot of tedious work and I can understand not even wanting to start that process.</p><p> </p><p>

So what I've been doing the last couple of months of updates, is going into the gimmick section in the editor and using mass delete to get rid of every outdated/nonsensical gimmick to trim down the file, ones that I knew no one in the game was more than likely using. Then I usually import the default gimmicks to fill in ones added to the default data with the game that aren't in this update. You can even take this a step further and delete gimmicks you know a select few use but are kind of outdated in tone (ie, authority figure which I believe is strictly suited to a heel as is but in the default is now suited to both babyface and heel). However this would lead to having to figure out who doesn't have a gimmick after that and replacing them so I would only suggest that if you did have the time to scope through and see who doesn't have one. Either way, I've been doing this so figured I'd pass it along.</p>

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<p>As you have Fight Club Pro you may want these</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://i.imgur.com/l7ycD1U.jpg</span></p><p>

<span>http://i.imgur.com/4Tdgy6a.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p>

There are other images on the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pg/leatherrebels/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1538765982823842" rel="external nofollow">Leather Rebels Facebook page</a>.</p>

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<p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">PROGRESS Spoilers:</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

#CCK (Kid Lykos and Chris Brookes) defeated British Strong Style to become PROGRESS Tag Team Champions.</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

Also, Damian Dunne debuted/returned to the company, and is using his ATTACK:PRO gimmick (Anti-Fun Police), and so he should have the same disposition and gimmick as he does there.</span></p>

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NJPW/AJPW Edits

 

Similar to Wrestle-1, I went back through and logged match ratio for NJPW/AJPW over the past year to give them a more realistic ratio. I also simmed out with the AI some different title defense settings for a more realistic number of defenses throughout the year.

Outputs below:

 

NJPW

 

Match Ratio:

1v1 = 36%

2v2 = 28%

3v3 = 36%

Triangle = 0%

4-way = 0%

 

Title Settings (changes in bold):

(Belt - Level - Event, Tour, TV)

IWGP Heavyweight - Main - Normal, Never, Never

IWGP Intercontinental - Floating - Normal, Never, Never

IWGP Junior Heavyweight - Midcard - Often, Never, Never

IWGP Junior Heavweight Tag Team - Midcard - Often, Never, Never

IWGP Tag Team - Midcard - Often, Never, Never

NEVER Openweight - Midcard - Often, Never, Never

NEVER 6-Man - Floating - Often, Rarely, Rarely

 

Title Defenses:

Belt (Actual defenses > default data > with changes)

IWGP Heavyweight - 6 (6E) > 8 (8E) > 9 (9E)

IWGP Intercontinental - 7 (7E) > 5 (5E) > 10 (10 E)

IWGP Junior Heavyweight - 8 (8E) > 19 (13E, 7T) > 10 (10 E)

IWGP Junior Heavweight Tag Team - 8 (8E) > 14 (5E, 10T) > 6 (6E)

IWGP Tag Team - 7 (7E) > 9 (9E) > 8 (8E)

NEVER Openweight - 9 (7E, 2T) > 58 (14E, 44T) > 8 (8E)

NEVER 6-Man - 13 (8E, 5T) > 11 (1E, 10T) > 14 (6E, 8T)

 

TV Deals:

I mentioned the first 2 changes in a previous post, but there probably is a case to be made to add the 3rd (AXS TV) now that AXS is only roughly a month behind when showing content (and uses the TV Asahi content as what it puts english commentary to)

 

Tour Highlights on TV Asahi, tour highlights = yes, Time slot = Late Night;

Bring down NJPW World size in Japan (based on subscriber #'s)

Tour Highlights on AXS, tour highlights = yes, Time slot = Late Night;

 

 

AJPW

 

Match Ratio:

1v1 = 38%

2v2 = 29%

3v3 = 21%

Triangle = 2%

4-way = 0%

 

Title Settings (changes in bold):

(Belt - Level - Event, Tour, TV)

All Asia Tag - Mid - Often, Rarely, Rarely

GAORA TV - Mid - Often, Rarely, Rarely

Triple Crown - Main - Often, Never, Never

Junior - Mid - Often, Rarely, Rarely

Tag - Floating - Often, Rarely, Rarely (suggest raising belt prestige to 50+%, so it is seen as higher than All Asia Tag by AI)

 

Title Defenses:

Belt (Actual defenses > default data > with changes)

All Asia Tag - 6 > 11 > 10

GAORA TV - 8 > 25 > 11

Triple Crown - 8 > 17 > 5

Junior - 7 > 16 > 11

Tag - 8 > 11 > 12

 

TV Deals:

In general, I am a bit torn on what to suggest for TV for Japanese companies, as a true PPV model doesn't really exist there. A company like AJPW will show taped versions of shows about a month before on networks like Samurai TV or GAORA, and have the occasional live broadcast of big events on them as well. It's not consistent enough to be a true "TV show", but they do show the occasional event. In testing, it seems like the ideal mix is below, but I am going to keep playing around with it.

 

Change AJPW on GAORA to Touring Highlights show

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No hate here but just one minor complaint, being set as a female will eventually make the game set him/her as pregnant and making stories like "Gave birth to a healthy boy/girl" etc. Wouldn't make much sense imo as they can't become pregnant themselves.

 

They can still take off time for a surrogate birth or adoption. Not that big of a deal.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They can still take off time for a surrogate birth or adoption. Not that big of a deal.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But the way the game is written text wise, it makes no sense unless Adam suddenly updates the text.</p><p> </p><p> Can't the person above just edit their own game to make Jessicka Love a Female instead of eventually forcing myself and some others to revert it back to a male (assuming Fleisch changes Him to a Her)</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dam0" data-cite="Dam0" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But the way the game is written text wise, it makes no sense unless Adam suddenly updates the text.<p> </p><p> Can't the person above just edit their own game to make Jessicka Love a Female instead of eventually forcing myself and some others to revert it back to a male (assuming Fleisch changes Him to a Her)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There is a very rare chance of the worker even getting pregnant, so I don't understand why something that has zero effect on the game bothers you so much. It's a newsblurb that doesn't effect anything.</p><p> </p><p> In order for Jessicka to be properly replicated, she should be set as female or otherwise she can't be used in womens divisions.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is a very rare chance of the worker even getting pregnant, so I don't understand why something that has zero effect on the game bothers you so much. It's a newsblurb that doesn't effect anything.<p> </p><p> <strong>In order for Jessicka to be properly replicated, she should be set as female or otherwise she can't be used in womens divisions.</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually fair enough that makes total sense.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is a very rare chance of the worker even getting pregnant, so I don't understand why something that has zero effect on the game bothers you so much. It's a newsblurb that doesn't effect anything.<p> </p><p> In order for Jessicka to be properly replicated, she should be set as female or otherwise she can't be used in womens divisions.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And honestly, "become pregnant" can even be translated out to "adopting a child" in your head lol</p>
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I've taken the liberty of changing Jessica to female in the data. There are some things the data can't replicate accurately to the real world, so if she becomes pregnant in the game you can assume she's adopting and taking some parental leave to be with her child. Only real complication now is setting her sexual preference... she was previously set as a homosexual male, so with the limitations of the game I've assumed she is now to be set as a heterosexual female to line up with her transition. :)

 


In a more general data update, I've now completed my tweaks for everyone from B to Z, leaving me around 200 workers left to do. I should have that done for Wednesday and it looks like Fleisch has barely anything left to add to the mod at the moment too. I've also ended up watching the Omega vs Okada match today... they may have got some slight stat bumps as a result, mostly due to Omega clearly having gone from Lightweight to Middleweight now. :)

 


I have to say, I'm really excited to play with the latest version of the data. Sim tests have looked strong and with regneration now on, along with Fog of War looking great there are a LOT more option for smaller companies in longer term games while also having enough mystery in the game world for major companies to have lots to explore in future. Can't wait to get a Road To Glory game going after release. :D

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've taken the liberty of changing Jessica to female in the data. There are some things the data can't replicate accurately to the real world, so if she becomes pregnant in the game you can assume she's adopting and taking some parental leave to be with her child. Only real complication now is setting her sexual preference... she was previously set as a homosexual male, so with the limitations of the game I've assumed she is now to be set as a heterosexual female to line up with her transition. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> In a more general data update, I've now completed my tweaks for everyone from B to Z, leaving me around 200 workers left to do. I should have that done for Wednesday and it looks like Fleisch has barely anything left to add to the mod at the moment too. I've also ended up watching the Omega vs Okada match today... they may have got some slight stat bumps as a result, mostly due to Omega clearly having gone from Lightweight to Middleweight now. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I have to say, I'm really excited to play with the latest version of the data. Sim tests have looked strong and with regneration now on, along with Fog of War looking great there are a LOT more option for smaller companies in longer term games while also having enough mystery in the game world for major companies to have lots to explore in future. Can't wait to get a Road To Glory game going after release. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Have any British guys been updated? I feel like British Strong Style and #CCK are particularly underrated in the mod, I feel Jimmy Havoc could do with a small boost too.</p><p> </p><p> Upgrades for the Chosen Bros would be cool too!</p>
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Have any British guys been updated? I feel like British Strong Style and #CCK are particularly underrated in the mod, I feel Jimmy Havoc could do with a small boost too.

 

Upgrades for the Chosen Bros would be cool too!

 

You will see who has been updated once released. It's not that I'm trying to be a dick but if we start answering that question, everyone will want to know "has worker a, b or q been edited??" and we'll be here forever just answering the same question over and over. Trust me though, the work that has gone into this update IS noticeable and the data plays much, much better than previous versions. Derek has worked tirelessly on stats, and people he wasn't sure of I have/will have looked at by release. :)

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You will see who has been updated once released. It's not that I'm trying to be a dick but if we start answering that question, everyone will want to know "has worker a, b or q been edited??" and we'll be here forever just answering the same question over and over. Trust me though, the work that has gone into this update IS noticeable and the data plays much, much better than previous versions. Derek has worked tirelessly on stats, and people he wasn't sure of I have/will have looked at by release. :)

 

Sounds good! Waiting on this update to start my new game!

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<p>Can you change make change of an Irish venue name from the SFX Theater to the Tivoli Theater?</p><p> </p><p>

Has the same venue size but the SFX closed 10 years ago or so. While the Tivoli is Over The Top Wrestling's home venue.</p><p> </p><p>

Thanks as always.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dam0" data-cite="Dam0" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No hate here but just one minor complaint, being set as a female will eventually make the game set him/her as pregnant and making stories like "Gave birth to a healthy boy/girl" etc. Wouldn't make much sense imo as they can't become pregnant themselves.<p> </p><p> Also Fleisch I'm having a blast with the (not so now) recent data, I'm 8 years into the game so far the longest I've ever done!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Write any kidnicks off as adoption - it's the way that happens in real life.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="southside_hitmen" data-cite="southside_hitmen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> <strong>SNIP</strong></p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">TV Deals:</span></p><p> In general, I am a bit torn on what to suggest for TV for Japanese companies, as a true PPV model doesn't really exist there. A company like AJPW will show taped versions of shows about a month before on networks like Samurai TV or GAORA, and have the occasional live broadcast of big events on them as well. It's not consistent enough to be a true "TV show", but they do show the occasional event. In testing, it seems like the ideal mix is below, but I am going to keep playing around with it.</p><p> </p><p> Change AJPW on GAORA to Touring Highlights show</p></div></blockquote><p> This is all very interesting and thanks for the hard work. Doing broadcasting deals for Japanese companies is a damn nightmare for the reasons you list above. A lot of companies use the paid streaming site Niconico for events too. From what I can tell, this includes NOAH, BJW, DG, W-1, Zero1, K-DOJO, FREEDOMS. The following companies have sporadic events aired on Samurai TV, usually on a week or so delay: Zero1, Stardom, NJPW, AJPW, BJW, DDT, NOAH (tour highlights?), and K-Dojo. As you've said, GAORA airs W1 and AJPW in addition to DG and Oz.</p><p> </p><p> ...</p><p> </p><p> So awesome that Derek B is helping out with ratings. I'm incredibly excited to see how it all looks! Thank you Fleisch, Derek B, and everybody else for making such a magnificent mod!</p>
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<p>Just going through some notes. Here are some minor things that you may or may not want to include (and I've checked the first page to make sure I'm not repeating anything):</p><p>

*Konnan should have negative relations with Vampiro and Fuerza Guerrera. Also, maybe change his simmering tension with Dorian to hatred or strong dislike. He rips on AAA as much as he can.</p><p>

*Karlee Perez had a DUI in '09 and Jack Swagger had one in 2013 (the classic mugshot!). Perhaps give them 5% law problems like you did with Stu Bennett. Jericho talks about being arrested for drunk driving in his book, so he could also use a bump there.</p><p>

*I know it's best to use chemistry notes sparingly, but Rush and LA Park have torn it up two years in a row and just take each other's games to another level when they work each other. They are so great working against each other.</p><p>

*During the whole Shibata scandal, Okada married his partner. In the May update he's still listed as "dating".</p><p>

*Shigeo Okumura underwent neck surgery in April and hopes to be back in the ring by December.</p><p>

*El Zorro left AAA in February and worked for Konnan's The Crash promotion this month.</p><p>

*Should Mauro have simmering tension with JBL? Meltzer was pretty certain that they had some issues which led to his initial departure. Layfield's personality in game is pretty soft compared to the nightmare he sounds like going from multiple sources. Meltzer claims that JBL is super tight with Vince and that he's basically his proxy, perhaps a loyalty relationship between the two?</p><p>

*Is Don Callis in the data? I can't seem to find him. He's commentating alongside Kevin Kelly for New Japan. I tend to stick to the Japanese commentary but from what I've heard he does a pretty good job.</p><p>

*I believe it was Meltzer who said Joe Koff treats Delirious like a son. Loyalty relationship?</p><p>

*Davey Richards has been pretty open about his dislike of Joe Koff.</p><p>

*DJ Hyde's egotism is a running joke for people who have worked for him. He inserts himself into big angles and talks a very big game. He's got a balanced personality in your data. Still better than Zandig.</p><p>

*The whole Dive twitter stuff highlighted Randy Orton's still present dislike of Bully Ray going back to their OVW days. Meltzer went into great detail about this on one of the episodes of WOR during the Divegate time frame. Batista doesn't like Bully either.</p><p>

*Su Yung and Rich Swann married. They're currently set as engaged.</p><p>

*Speaking of Su Yung, she was fired from WWN (including Shine) due to something going down on Wrestlemania weekend. The whole red wedding that was built up didn't happen. I read it was traffic but for whatever reason, she and Gabe don't seem to be in a good place.</p><p>

*Personal opinion warning: I think Lenny Leonard of EVOLVE is one of the, if not the, best English PBP announcers today. He's at a respectable C+, whereas Michael Cole, who I find adds little to nothing even without Vince in his ear is at a B. Cole is certainly more refined (mic skills?) but sounds so fake when he tries to get excited.</p><p>

*Sugar Dunkerton did some PBP for Beyond and was quite good. He's got average colour commentary skills and 0 PBP skills.</p><p>

*ICW Fight Club is on Italian station sportelevision (another that would have to be created though).</p><p>

*I don't want to stray too much into stats, but Rusev's acting seems really low. He's so great at emoting in and out of matches. Look at how he came out of that ridiculously awful love triangle with Lana and Dolph looking better than either of those two because of his acting chops (he was injured I believe, so he relied on entertainment skills). The Youtube interviews he did with Michael Cole really gave him a great platform to showcase his acting skills too. He's a top notch wrestling actor right up there with Kevin Owens imo. It's at C- right now. I could see him being a really strong babyface if the turn were handled correctly.</p><p>

*Big Dave Batista has been very critical of his last run and hasn't shied away from bluntly putting down the creative and indirectly the McMahons. Would a simmering tension be too strong? Additionally, should he have a popularity bump due to the success of Guardians?</p><p>

*Road Dogg/B.G. James is one of the head writers of SmackDown. He has 0 booking skill and reputation in the May data. Ryan Ward, the other head writer of SD, is not in the data set. Not much is known about Ward but going off his LinkedIn page, one can get some basic info like a rough age and such. He clearly had a big hand in NXT's success because the show has really deteriorated without him and Smackdown suddenly became pretty watchable after his promotion.</p><p>

*Was it just me or did the Nakamura/Joe series of matches in NXT really under-deliver? Maybe a poor chemistry setting for when they face off?</p><p>

*The Differ Ariake is closing June 2018</p><p>

*Bryan Danielson has done everything but come right out and say that he's going to be wrestling after his current deal is up. Would it make sense to have his current deal expire in a year and have it set to only Authority Figure (as you've got it currently set) and then set him as an active worker rather than retired?</p><p>

*Mark Haskins went on hiatus (was told by doctors to retire) last year due to neck problems. His head/body are at 100. He's obviously returned to in-ring action, so it can't be as bad as some worried but there should definitely be some serious wear and tear there.</p><p>

*Kagetsu is going on hiatus later this year. Is there any way to handle this in game? She's leaving Stardom and not re-signing. Beyond that, nobody seems to know what's up.</p><p>

*One last request for stats: Keith Lee is very likely going to win all sorts of most improved awards this year and they'll be well earned. He's having some incredible matches on the indies and not exactly being carried. He's a super athlete for a man his size and a helluva worker. His series of matches with Dijak, his match with Ricochet, and his EVOLVE match with Kyle O'Reilly have all been superb stuff. He, Cage and Sami Callihan tore it up at PWG a few months back too. There are other matches but those stand out. Apart from psychology (pacing out matches, building up to big moves though he's not terrible at this, and generally keeping the audience entertained), he has the whole package and it wouldn't surprise me if he's a big hit with WWE in a year or so. Any chance on bumping his top row (mostly brawling really), athleticism, entertainment and SQ? </p><p> </p><p>

Thanks for your time and effort, Fleisch! If this isn't kosher, I apologize.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lukkearthur" data-cite="Lukkearthur" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Reports have been called fake by PwInsider as well as a tweet by Alberto Del Rio</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not debating whether it's false or not but there is no tweet on the matter either way from <a href="https://twitter.com/PrideOfMexico" rel="external nofollow">Alberto</a></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ogyaf" data-cite="Ogyaf" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41205" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not debating whether it's false or not but there is no tweet on the matter either way from <a href="https://twitter.com/PrideOfMexico" rel="external nofollow">Alberto</a></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Must've deleted the tweet, I definitely remember seeing one. Either way by all accounts now I guess where still together until we know. I also feel Paige should be on hiatus in the data.</p>
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@Oyaji, hope you don't mind me chiming in here as it concerns law problems. I would hesitate even giving 5% to someone who has not been arrested in years, though I wouldn't be opposed to ticking the Reformed box. IIRC, I think Law Problems increases the chances (depending on the number percentage) someone will get arrested &/or given a jail sentence, taking them out of the game world for a good chunk of time depending on what they got popped for. Ultimately it's Fleisch's mod, so I will trust his judgment <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />
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