Sigilistic Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I haven't started up a Burning Hammer game yet, but I do intend to. The roster size does indeed look a bit cumbersome. Gotta keep those main guys happy. I usually do stables and a lot of multi-man matches, so that might help. I'm debating between Burning Hammer or TCW. Making a B brand, whether you use the King of Fighters belt or the Hinote belts, has some potential. Getting a second show should be easy enough. That would keep the midcard and lower card happy and busy. But yeah, a developmental promotion seems like a must, especially if you raid BCG and the like. Oooh, Hinote's a great idea. Could use it as a developmental brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigilistic Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 How feasible would it be to create a US-specific broadcasting network? It's costly as hell, but I was thinking about making a free-to-air network, basically Burning Hammer Online, to try and hook the American audience. Then I'd open an American dev fed, as BigPapa recommended, to build up my stable of gaijin talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewbaker2907 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I haven't started up a Burning Hammer game yet, but I do intend to. The roster size does indeed look a bit cumbersome. Gotta keep those main guys happy. I usually do stables and a lot of multi-man matches, so that might help. I'm debating between Burning Hammer or TCW. Making a B brand, whether you use the King of Fighters belt or the Hinote belts, has some potential. Getting a second show should be easy enough. That would keep the midcard and lower card happy and busy. But yeah, a developmental promotion seems like a must, especially if you raid BCG and the like. Who do you tend to use to lead your stables and do you use mixed stables of heavyweights and juniors or do you separate the weight classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Oooh, Hinote's a great idea. Could use it as a developmental brand. Even if you don't present it as a separate brand with the Hinote logo and such, using the belts for the developmental/B brand would at least give some history and gravitas. How feasible would it be to create a US-specific broadcasting network? It's costly as hell, but I was thinking about making a free-to-air network, basically Burning Hammer Online, to try and hook the American audience. Then I'd open an American dev fed, as BigPapa recommended, to build up my stable of gaijin talent. Well, its doable, but I'm sure its the best way. Free to air isn't going to generate much revenue, so it helps develop your popularity there but won't allow you to profit from it long-term. And while I like the thought, I'm not sure I'd open up Burning Hammer USA. Yes, having the gaijin talent gain some popularity thru it would help with US expansion, but at the cost of them coming in with some popularity in Japan. I would rather have a young worker come thru with 15 pop in Japan and 0 in the US than the opposite, especially in a performance based promotion. I'll probably use Dragon Pro Wrestling or something similar as the Japanese based child promotion. Or I guess Burning Hammer have enough money to open up both that and BHUSA.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Who do you tend to use to lead your stables and do you use mixed stables of heavyweights and juniors or do you separate the weight classes? I do both. I like to have one or two stables that are going to consist just of juniors, and a couple that are mixed. I don't mixing the juniors into mixed multi-man tag matches. I don't tend to be THAT strict with the split. The stables that are mixed are far more likely to have a heavyweight as the leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACT 25 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I've been thinking about starting a game as Burning Hammer but, due to the huge roster, I'm still undecided between using divisions or a brand split. Are you guys using the brand split? If so, which focus are you using for each of the brands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightlessGypsy Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Is it bad i've managed to push KC Glenn (Helikaon) From an opener to Main Eventer in less than a Year. FYI i kinda broke the weight divison rule to do it having him beat Bruce The Giant in a match I'm at upper midcarder bro, no shame. Also have Musashi sitting at upper midcard and I'm only five months in haha. Setting those two up for a huuuge match The Night of the Burning Hammer to open that show. Should be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise22 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 2 questions: What announcers do I need to look for. Mine (default team)vare bringing down my matches. Announcing and color. Can I assign purchased titles to a child promotion? If so how, as I have the Hinote belts now but can only activate on main roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Trabajador Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I'm at upper midcarder bro, no shame. Also have Musashi sitting at upper midcard and I'm only five months in haha. Setting those two up for a huuuge match The Night of the Burning Hammer to open that show. Should be good. No i mean literally to the moon, hes now my figurehead with a given boost in his charisma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 <p>In my game what I did was open a new version of Hinote Dojo called Hinote Dojo REBIRTH. I also made my own network in Japan and assigned them two TV shows. I probably will splurge on a second dev. territory since I have a bloated amount of developmental talents and a ton of foreigners, especially from Mexico as I will use luchadores to boost my Junior division.</p><p> </p><p> I reactivated the Openweight Title, but I need some good ideas for the King of Fighters title. Like a set of rules or something so that it can be looked at differently from the World Championship. Any ideas?</p><p> </p><p> Also, with Kikawa aging and taking a toll on his stats, who is the best option for a new figurehead/ace?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yokai Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TEWFan" data-cite="TEWFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I reactivated the Openweight Title, but I need some good ideas for the King of Fighters title. Like a set of rules or something so that it can be looked at differently from the World Championship. Any ideas?</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In TEW2013 I always had the KoF matches set up like shoot fights. No pinfall victories only submissions or "knockouts" (stoppage finishes when booking).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Is running storylines a requirement for getting A rated matches? I have found it to be a real struggle to get anything over a B+ (which I get rarely) and most of my matches are in the B- to B range. My only two A rated matches where between Sensational Dragon and MYSTIC Dragon and I am "stuck" as I don't see any forward momentum in my popularity levels. Any tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio3060 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Well, its doable, but I'm sure its the best way. Free to air isn't going to generate much revenue, so it helps develop your popularity there but won't allow you to profit from it long-term. And while I like the thought, I'm not sure I'd open up Burning Hammer USA. Yes, having the gaijin talent gain some popularity thru it would help with US expansion, but at the cost of them coming in with some popularity in Japan. I would rather have a young worker come thru with 15 pop in Japan and 0 in the US than the opposite, especially in a performance based promotion. I'll probably use Dragon Pro Wrestling or something similar as the Japanese based child promotion. Or I guess Burning Hammer have enough money to open up both that and BHUSA.... If you have your own network in Japan, could you open BHOTWG-USA and have it air on your network? That way, your gaijin will be popular where the show is run and gain popularity in Japan, where the TV show is seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbWoody Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I was wondering if anyone made any product changes to ease up the strain the matches put on guys. I have a lot of guys that aren't even 40 yet getting dirt sheet penalties for physical decline so I've had a huge influx of new young talent and put some of the close to 40 lower/Midgard guys in my development to work with younger guys...just wondering if anyone has made tweaks so the matches aren't so demanding on the roster...thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon The GOAT Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="NewbWoody" data-cite="NewbWoody" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was wondering if anyone made any product changes to ease up the strain the matches put on guys. I have a lot of guys that aren't even 40 yet getting dirt sheet penalties for physical decline so I've had a huge influx of new young talent and put some of the close to 40 lower/Midgard guys in my development to work with younger guys...just wondering if anyone has made tweaks so the matches aren't so demanding on the roster...thanks</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think you've got to take that strain with the product. Every product, every company comes with its own sort of challenges. Now if you're indifferent to the challenge then I guess you can lower it but really, that's what makes different companies/products special, you have to adjust the way you play. It means you need the next pillars getting built up and trained so that they've got the quality to lift up your company with your late 30s/early 40s guys getting done.</p><p> </p><p> BTW, if you're worried about BHOTWG strain, just try PGHW <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbWoody Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think you've got to take that strain with the product. Every product, every company comes with its own sort of challenges. Now if you're indifferent to the challenge then I guess you can lower it but really, that's what makes different companies/products special, you have to adjust the way you play. It means you need the next pillars getting built up and trained so that they've got the quality to lift up your company with your late 30s/early 40s guys getting done.<p> </p><p> BTW, if you're worried about BHOTWG strain, just try PGHW <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Haha you know what you are right, the challenge is being able to build up new guys to keep up once the older guys get broken down. And I might start a PGHW run after I finish up my BHOTWG run. Thanks for responding to my question I appreciate it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbWoody Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 A quick question for anyone that is a bit more familiar with the company. I'm having a hard time getting even B rated matches. The product is the same I haven't made any changes. Are their any road agent notes that will help with matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Justice Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="NewbWoody" data-cite="NewbWoody" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A quick question for anyone that is a bit more familiar with the company. I'm having a hard time getting even B rated matches. The product is the same I haven't made any changes. Are their any road agent notes that will help with matches?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nobody's answered your question so I'll go ahead. For TV shows you want to have 20+ minute, multi-tag matches. Usually, regular match is fine, high-spots is good for midcard Super Junior matches. </p><p> </p><p> If you're playing the company like its real world counterpart NJPW, you rarely have main eventers go one on one, and you don't have a world title shot every PPV. If you're struggling to pull good grades, choose an avatar with high motivation and low creativity, raise locker room morale, and make sure you're booking matches longer (15-25 minutes is typically good enough).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 <p>You are going to get hit some penalties in a lot of main event and semi main event matches. True of any company, really, but definitely true of Burning Hammer. Penalties like motivation (unavoidable), time decline (varies) and lack of selling (common in BH, I've found). Penalties can't be avoided entirely, but the Dirt Sheet being turned on really helps with seeing what is impacting the match. Tag matches in the main event are not only similar to how puro companies run, but can help mitigate some of those penalties. You probably aren't going to get an A grade out of a time-limit draw main event tag or six-man.... but B grades should be achievable. </p><p> </p><p> Depending on which talent are on time decline, you may have to limit their usage and protect them to some degree. Or accept the grade impact.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poputt Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You are going to get hit some penalties in a lot of main event and semi main event matches. True of any company, really, but definitely true of Burning Hammer. Penalties like motivation (unavoidable), time decline (varies) and lack of selling (common in BH, I've found). Penalties can't be avoided entirely, but the Dirt Sheet being turned on really helps with seeing what is impacting the match. Tag matches in the main event are not only similar to how puro companies run, but can help mitigate some of those penalties. You probably aren't going to get an A grade out of a time-limit draw main event tag or six-man.... but B grades should be achievable. <p> </p><p> Depending on which talent are on time decline, you may have to limit their usage and protect them to some degree. Or accept the grade impact.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Typically what I do in puro/workrate feds is just slot the old guys in to the lower card matches against the young lions and foreigners to teach them how to work. If you're going to lose all the time then you might as well lose to some legends.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I was thinking of starting a save with BHOTWG, but the roster does seem very large. Would it be a good idea to have the brand-split be Junior(light)weights and heavyweights, and get the Juniorweights their own TV-show and titles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martel123 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 In all honesty the BHOTWG is extremely similar to NJPW with there roster comparisons. I suggest booking it like you would if you played NJPW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Except BHOTWG is not touring, so I can't really book them as I would NJPW. Besides, everytime I have tried with NJPW in real life mods, I have failed <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Except BHOTWG is not touring, so I can't really book them as I would NJPW. Besides, everytime I have tried with NJPW in real life mods, I have failed <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Eh, it's not that hard to book NJPW style in a weekly format given how many shows they run now that go live. You just gotta treat the weekly show as a highlight reel, so multimans on the lower end of the show with promos and singles at the top end. </p><p> </p><p> I typically break down the year in mini-seasons whenever I book puro, where it goes 3 months, 4 months, 5 months. Each mini-season has a tournament or big event in it that I build to like an Anniversary Show or a Wrestle Kingdom, and some months might have a theme like gaijin Americans, luchadore visitors, company vs. Japanese outsiders, youth rising, etc...</p><p> </p><p> For a tv show though, you filter those themes into the booking a bit more often. You keep in mind that one title defense every two months in fine, and that big single matches are "draws" as much as a title defense can be. Don't be afraid to mix singles cross-divisions to get a good grade, just don't job out your top contenders on either side.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 <p>My problem with booking those puro feds, is the performance > popularity. I'm not used to that, so whenever I try, my matches suck. Even with a guy that's 93 pop across Japan, against a guy that's 78 across Japan, both pretty good in the ring, scores a 75. Every show loses me popularity, so I'm getting frustrated and going back to my entertainment fed saves. BHOTWG also goes against everything I stand for, wrestling wise, with no gimmicks and no storylines. So every TV-show and event is just randomly booked matches all the time. But I keep getting drawn back to more frustration...</p><p> </p><p> Plus, and I know this is not the C-Verse, but in my NJPW save, it says under product that it attracts people who will be put off by low risk matches, which means the common 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2 and 3 vs 3. Gonna be a nightmare to book then! (I have changed them all from having very low risk to having low risk). Maybe that was why I couldn't get a decent grade last time around.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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