The SNP Thread

[Tussinewa]

Haven't seen a thread made for SNP so figured I'd get the ball rolling.

 

Always enjoyed playing as MOSC in the older versions of TEW so having SNP is basically the spiritual successor to MOSC (expect with lots of money to play around with).

 

As for booking tips I generally use a lot of freestyle angles capitalizing on the high Menace of the big workers (Roly Muckletruck, Meathead McAullie, Milo Moringstar). I also have a match with high-spots or car crash as the match focus since SNP seems to have a decent amount of cruiser-weight workers. The rest of the match aims are generally Mayhem or Wild Brawl with working/calming the crowd where appropriate.

 

I released the workers who I felt didn't mesh well with a hardcore setting, (comedy workers like Bob Effette, and technician workers like Grant Bridge). Although this is more personal preference then anything. As for signings there's not much in the way of over workers (Carl Edwards is one of the only ones who catches my interest). There are a few people you can build up (Ripper LeStat, Colin Picaso, Liam Lutz).

 

Anyone else playing as SNP? Any tips for booking or workers to get?

[consortium11]

As odd as it sounds a combination of SNP's deep pockets (which get deeper pretty quickly) and the number of workers set to "work entire world" means that you can actually put together an indy darling roster which could make even the most hardening smark bounce up and down with excitement.

 

At the moment the game starts you can hire Greg Gauge, Connor Threepwood, Barry Griffin, Billy Robinson, Don Henderson, Curtis Jenkins, Gram Gorman, Hughe de Aske, Irwin Gutman, Konrad Makinen, Landon Mallory (although 21CW will almost certainly sign him to a written), Merle O'Curle, Ray Snow, Silver Shark, JD Morgan, Samoan Machine and Walter Morgan. Hell, change the woman's division to allow integrated wrestling and you can get Shiori Jippensha involved as well. That's the sort of roster any workrate based promotion would love.

 

Should you get them?

 

Hell no. What would be the fun in that?

 

Let's make one sensible suggestion though; Hugh de Aske is the sort of person you can build a promotion like SNP around and outside of occasionally getting tours of Japan he's not someone who seems to get stolen in my games. He's basically the most well rounded prospect you can get in the UK with multiple 60+ top row stats (and a very solid 55 in hardcore), backs that up with good performance stats and 71 charisma. He can almost literally do anything and as he's already the 4C Hardcore Champion over in Canada it makes thematic sense for SNP to bring a wrestler like him in. And his 24 starting pop means he can go straight into your main event.

 

Other suggestions that are sensible? Don Henderson is a great ring general, over enough that he goes into your main event and is Scottish. Yes, his hardcore stats may suck but not every match needs to have blood (and possibly guts) while every promotion needs someone they can rely on to not injure their opponent (or themselves), who actually understands how to put a match together and who can train up other workers. If you want to rely on the celtic connection than Merle O'Curle can play much the same role.

 

Konrad Makinen is a great prospect, his selling if off the charts, he's got good star quality and charisma... and hardcore 52 isn't a bad start. A very useful guy to have on the roster. If you want another prospect then Michael Gregory isn't a bad shout; 82 SQ, decent brawling, hardcore and charisma to start... dress him up in trunks with St George's Cross on them and let him soak up the heel heat.

 

Geordie Jimmy Morris may be 48 but he actually has a clue what he's doing in the ring, isn't a bad hardcore worker himself and is a locker room leader... a pretty important thing with Mark Carnie in charge.

 

But let's look at some less sensible suggestions...

 

The Damned has been in trouble with the law previously (and may well be again), he drinks, he smokes, he does soft drugs and he causes some issues in locker rooms. That makes him the perfect fit for SNP. In the ring he's basically rubbish... but he does have menace 89 and if you can fit him in between your other monsters that's a good way to build overness. Jeff Amazon and The Minor Annoyance are legendary for how bad they are... so why not give them a shot? And Hellraiser is notoriously clumbsy... just the person to have the fans chant "you ****ed up" at.

 

Hell, hire notorious trouble maker Mister King just to see who drives your locker room to mutiny first, him or your owner. And in that regard hire the strippers SNP use to contracts rather than one night only... it makes no real difference other than raise the chances that you get one of those messages saying Mark Carnie has sexually harassed them and they've quit on the spot, but that's half the fun of SNP.

 

As for how I book and see SNP, I take a pretty high level of direct inspiration from the real life promotion Insane Championship Wrestling, who's recent success I imagine influenced the inclusion of SNP in the game. ICW is probably most well known for comedy everyman (think Dusty Rhodes with more slapstick)

and some

(one of the main reasons I'm happy to have comedy workers in SNP) but they tend to offer a mix of comedy matches, hardcore brawls and spot fests (

gives a bit of an overview).

 

Serious, sensible booking decisions?

 

SNP have a vocal fanbase and as such they'll react badly to certain workers; off the top of my head Dwayne Dark gets a lot of abuse but I'm sure there are others. That will hurt match ratings and lower overness gains... you have to decide whether it's worth powering through until the workers who get a negative reaction increase their stats enough that the crowd don't hate them or simply cut them and be done with it.

 

You get penalized for very low risk matches. You could simply make every match a hardcore bout or you could create new match types; just take a normal 1 v 1 match (or 2 v 2 etc etc), raise the risk level to low or average, call it "a SNP style match" and use that instead.

 

As is normally the way in TEW, menace remains the key to high ratings and thus high overness. Spam menace angles where possible using Muckletruck, Morningstar and McAullie to get their overness up and then, as necessary, have them lose to your other workers you want to get over. At a pinch both Alton Vicious and Dwayne Dark (if you keep him) can be used in menace angles as well and get reasonable ratings... a good way to kickstart their overness.

 

JK Lee has some pretty stunning performance stats for someone his age (at least in the UK scene). If you can have him learn off a ring general (perhaps the aforementioned Henderson and/or Curle) for a while he'll be a great mid-card workhorse to help out your more spectacular and bloody workers with such minor details as actually learning how to wrestle. Paidraig O'Hearne and Neville Jones are two other guys to keep an eye on and try to develop... don't sleep on Jones' charisma and acting for when you need some talking done.

 

That said, don't get too attached to any of your workers. When the game calls Mark Carnie a scumbag they're speaking the honest truth and as well as harassing all your female workers he'll probably find ways to get into negative relationships with many of your male ones as well and manage to drive them out.

[Tussinewa]

Let's make one sensible suggestion though; Hugh de Aske is the sort of person you can build a promotion like SNP.

 

I never considered de Aske but by the sounds of it someone who I definitely should look at.

 

If you want another prospect then Michael Gregory isn't a bad shout; 82 SQ, decent brawling, hardcore and charisma to start... dress him up in trunks with St George's Cross on them and let him soak up the heel heat.

 

I looked at him in the start of the game but he won't sign with someone as risque as SNP. You could do some tweaking in the editor but I'd rather not...

 

Geordie Jimmy Morris may be 48 but he actually has a clue what he's doing in the ring, isn't a bad hardcore worker himself and is a locker room leader... a pretty important thing with Mark Carnie in charge.

 

He's way too old for my liking, although the locker room leader aspect is worth considering.

 

 

SNP have a vocal fanbase and as such they'll react badly to certain workers; off the top of my head Dwayne Dark gets a lot of abuse but I'm sure there are others. That will hurt match ratings and lower overness gains... you have to decide whether it's worth powering through until the workers who get a negative reaction increase their stats enough that the crowd don't hate them or simply cut them and be done with it.

 

I've gotten those notes on a bunch of people, how negatively does it affect match ratings? Most of the guys who get that note are usually lower card people in drop away or squash matches so I'm not too worried about it.

 

You get penalized for very low risk matches. You could simply make every match a hardcore bout or you could create new match types; just take a normal 1 v 1 match (or 2 v 2 etc etc), raise the risk level to low or average, call it "a SNP style match" and use that instead.

 

Does it tell you this in the match notes? I never get that warning. Unless certain match aims eliminate that problem?

 

At a pinch both Alton Vicious and Dwayne Dark (if you keep him) can be used in menace angles as well and get reasonable ratings... a good way to kickstart their overness.

 

Yep I'm pushing Alton Vicious to the moon right now.

 

Paidraig O'Hearne and Neville Jones are two other guys to keep an eye on and try to develop... don't sleep on Jones' charisma and acting for when you need some talking done.

 

I really like these two guys! I had them form a tag team, they're in a feud for the belts right now with Milo Moringstar and The Dublin Destroyer.

 

A few more things I wanted to ask you. Any tag team recommendations? Riddick Jordan left after being unhappy, I split up Maximum Damage (bad mistake looking bad) to have a feud against each other and I released Grant Bride + The Funke Bunch so my tag team scene isn't great right now.

 

Also wanted to ask if you think it's worth creating a dojo for SNP since they have so much money.

[consortium11]

I never considered de Aske but by the sounds of it someone who I definitely should look at.

 

It's almost boring in some ways because he's a go to guy for pretty much any British company to sign regardless of the level they're at, their product or what they need. He's so well-rounded (and still young enough that you can expect some improvement) that he fits in anywhere. I've had to deliberately tell myself not to sign him in certain 2013/16 games just so I have to do things a little differently.

 

I looked at him in the start of the game but he won't sign with someone as risque as SNP. You could do some tweaking in the editor but I'd rather not...

 

Ah, my bad... I thought I'd checked all the guys I listed (I left off George Wolfe and Nigel Svenson from my list of indy darlings for that reason).

 

He's way too old for my liking, although the locker room leader aspect is worth considering.

 

You'd mainly be getting him for the locker room leader aspect... although he can put on passable matches even with time decline and also help train other workers... basics 85 and psychology, safety and selling in the mid 60's are all pretty useful when you look at your starting roster.

 

I've gotten those notes on a bunch of people, how negatively does it affect match ratings? Most of the guys who get that note are usually lower card people in drop away or squash matches so I'm not too worried about it.

 

It hits them fairly badly but with SNP only having 18 pop to start and especially if you keep them away from the main event it's not the end of the world if you want to stick it out. There's a section in the player's handbook ("Fan Response") that gives some details on what the likely causes and solutions are.

 

Does it tell you this in the match notes? I never get that warning. Unless certain match aims eliminate that problem?

 

It certainly pops up in the dirt sheet, I can't recall if it also appears in the match notes themselves.

 

Yep I'm pushing Alton Vicious to the moon right now.

 

He's someone I always tend to hire and develop... the Northern Lights almost always end up being a factor in my British based promotions, first as jobbers but then rising up the card as their skills improve.

 

I really like these two guys! I had them form a tag team, they're in a feud for the belts right now with Milo Moringstar and The Dublin Destroyer.

 

They're a good pair and outside of some of the NSoW graduates that 21CW gobble up arguably the two top prospects in Britain.

 

If you want to take advantage of their charisma it may make sense to bring in one of Melanie Florence (who's also an excellent colour commentator when you need one) or Dunton Hall... it makes no sense in the fluff but you can get him for 70(!) an appearance, he's got 42 overness across Britain, microphone 88 and charisma 92 to do entertainment based angles with them and train their stats up.

 

A few more things I wanted to ask you. Any tag team recommendations? Riddick Jordan left after being unhappy, I split up Maximum Damage (bad mistake looking bad) to have a feud against each other and I released Grant Bride + The Funke Bunch so my tag team scene isn't great right now.

 

The Shooters (Don Henderson and Billy Robinson) are the obvious team to bring in: both start fairly over for a promotion SNP's size, the aforementioned Henderson is an excellent ring general while Robinson isn't that far behind. They can train up all your other tag teams and both will do well as singles stars. Stylistically they're not a perfect fit for SNP, both being technicians, but they're very useful to have around.

 

In the short term Thug and Bruiser can fit in... both pretty over for an SNP sized company, both have decent hardcore stats and both are pretty good performance wise... but Thug is 50 and so likely to retire pretty soon.

 

The X-Force (Jase Cole and Christopher Lister) an an excellent high flying, flashy team with good performance stats; useful for helping some of the young fliers on your current roster to develop as well as putting on good matches themselves. If it wasn't for the fact that 21CW will almost certainly hire him to a written I'd suggest Petey Barnes along with his partner Eric Future for similar reasons.

 

If you want more big monsters then Bam Bam and Hercules Johansen are available... and Hercules isn't actually a bad worker for a 27 year old big guy.

 

Jacques and Pieree DuPont are a useful technical tag team who can do a fair job training others (and are young enough to improve themselves) but stylewise I'm not sure they quite fit SNP.

 

Jimmi and Kalvin Adamms are a pair of safe, solid hands with decent performance stats. Them being brothers should also help backstage (as it would for the DuPonts as well)

 

Then there's Martin Heath and Jon Michael Sharp, a team I always seem to end up signing. Solid enough high fliers with acceptable performance stats, Heath is the star of the pair (destiny rolls permitting) who with the right training can become an excellent talker.

 

Also wanted to ask if you think it's worth creating a dojo for SNP since they have so much money.

 

Honestly, I don't think so. All the best prospects come through the National School of Wrestling and of those all the best are snapped up by 21CW. Your dojo would largely just be producing generic new workers who would otherwise still appear through the WWA: UK school and there's no point to a right of first refusal when you're the only promotion in town anyway (and even if some new ones do appear they're not going to be signing people to written's right off the bat).

 

I'd save as much of the money of the windfall as I reasonably could to help with unexpected expenses/down turns in the industry and to build up a war chest for the eventual move to cult. Also might be worth spending it to improve your backstage if it gets too messy and the ever needed bonus/bribes when one of your workers is unhappy with you.

[Anghrist]

There are a lot of great suggestions in this thread so far, which is good because my own efforts with SNP have been ... pretty poor. I've started about five or six games with these guys (abandoned a couple when Phil Myart got signed away by 21CW because I love that guy, and one where Milo Morningstar badly injured Alton Vicious in the first match of the latter's star-making singles push) all with Jeffery McPeterson as my avatar (for story reasons, rather than a love of the character).

 

For my part, the first thing I did was create a new 'Scottish Rules' match type so that all of my matches weren't getting the low-risk ding, and I deliberately avoided hiring anyone for the first few months to get a feel for the default roster. I had Phil Myart issue open challenges for his title which were pulling decent scores, and I had Jeffery McPeterson (with occasional appearances by the great Highland Warrior) face off against 'The Carnie Crew' (Mark Carnie as the mouthpiece, with Roly Muckletruck and Maximum Damage as his enforcers). McPeterson eventually drafted the Northern Lights into his fight, and thus we had a massive 6-man battle as the culmination of the story.

 

Where my playthrough went off the rails was when I impulse hired a trio of Japanese workers (Evil Spirit, JOJI and a third I can't remember without the game open in front of me) and put them under masks (I kept Evil Spirit's mask as it was) and called them Tenjin, Ryujin and Fujin and had them as part of a stable called 'The Shinigami'. After booking their debut show (which actually went really well) I realised that this was all a bit too high concept for SNP (or at least my perception of what SNP should be) so I recycled the idea for a new save as a custom promotion.

 

I'm still sticking with SNP for the moment though, and I think they're probably my favourites this time round (which is a sentence I never thought I'd type in any context )

[Tussinewa]

abandoned a couple when Phil Myart got signed away by 21CW because I love that guy

 

Ya from what I've seen 21CW will sign Phil Myart about half of the time.

 

For my part, the first thing I did was create a new 'Scottish Rules' match type so that all of my matches weren't getting the low-risk ding.

 

I'm going to test this out and see if I manage better match grades then I currently get. I assume you set the risk of this to low instead of very low?

 

I had Jeffery McPeterson (with occasional appearances by the great Highland Warrior) face off against 'The Carnie Crew' (Mark Carnie as the mouthpiece, with Roly Muckletruck and Maximum Damage as his enforcers). McPeterson eventually drafted the Northern Lights into his fight, and thus we had a massive 6-man battle as the culmination of the story.

 

Really like the idea of Mark Carnie leading a stable (makes sense in real life and kayfabe terms). For me I have a stable called the All-Star Titans (Milo Moringstar, Roly Muckletruck, The Dublin Destroyer, Ripper LeStat) whose original gold was to destroy the cruiser-weight division within SNP but has evolved into ruling over the whole company. (All four members hold titles.) Then I have the cruiser-weights stable (Carl Edwards, Padraig O'Hearne, Neville Jones, and Phil Bridge) but I'll probably include more heavyweights like McAullie and Maximum Damage when they beat the cruiser-weights.

[Anghrist]

I'm going to test this out and see if I manage better match grades then I currently get. I assume you set the risk of this to low instead of very low?

 

Yeah, I set both of the risk types to low because I couldn't remember which one the audience cared about. I don't know how much of a difference it really made, but I figured it all tied into the feel of the promotion.

[Jaded]

Yeah, I set both of the risk types to low because I couldn't remember which one the audience cared about. I don't know how much of a difference it really made, but I figured it all tied into the feel of the promotion.

 

It's content risk they cared about, just FYI.

 

Great thread; I think I might give them a try tonight.

[Anghrist]

It's content risk they cared about, just FYI.

 

Great thread; I think I might give them a try tonight.

 

That makes sense, thanks. Only the most bloodthirsty fans would demand increased injury risk I suppose.

 

I had been using one-night deals to bring Highland Warrior in when I needed him for angles, but with millions in the bank I figured it was worth bringing him in on a contract and having him manage his son. Bad chemistry sadly but he's making up for Jeffery's poor entertainment skills so he's getting over a little faster now. I don't want to put the King of Scotland title on him just yet, since Roly Muckletruck is by far my most over wrestler, so I'm going to give Roly the title then slowly turn him heel and have Jeffery chase it for a few months. With Warrior as his backup, I think that story will print money and speed us on our way to regional.

[Untouchable]

Oh my god, Carnie is the Scotsman and I just realised it. No wonder he's such a horrible boss

[Tussinewa]

<p>Just wanted to show my best rated show in SNP. About four years into the save and almost at regional. Definitely helps to have some former 21CW workers to come in.</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://i.imgur.com/UJHK7ao.png</span></p>

[LordOther]

Is there a way to get rid of Mark Carnie as owner or is the only way to do it is to edit data

[DarEatWorld]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordOther" data-cite="LordOther" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there a way to get rid of Mark Carnie as owner or is the only way to do it is to edit data</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think dealing with Carnie is part of the challenge of SNP. It offsets the lack of competition and the near bottomless pit of wealth. You'd have to use editor otherwise I'd imagine.</p>

[Midnightnick]

You can take over as Owner but that'd be the only way.

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Midnightnick" data-cite="Midnightnick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can take over as Owner but that'd be the only way.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And honestly given the fact, Carnie's not only a slimeball but a stupid one, is it really unrealistic he'd lose the promotion in a card game? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Macca316]

<p>So decided to take a step away from the TCW game i was trying to get started and partly as it wasn't happening and also because I stumbled across and started reading this thread (and because in less than a week I go to ICW Barramania) I thought I'd give SNP (cverse's ICDUB if ever I saw it) a go. </p><p> </p><p>

Just booked Burns Night Bash, not a great show but not a horrific show, had to bring the date forward as Maximum Carnage signed with 21CW and I wanted to have Northern Lights go over Carnage on the way out and end the feud so Light's retained the Titles. </p><p> </p><p>

Elsewhere the show opener was a 6 man ladder match to crown the first SNP Zero-G Champion, which featured Jaunty Rhodes defeating Christopher Lister, Bali Daljit, Neville Jones, Rhys Vali & Rohan Kirchner. I did want to give Jones the title but at least 3 of the others complained... something to build to perhaps.</p><p> </p><p>

Phil Myart sucessfully retained over both his starting rivals Axl Grease & Norman Gates, with the crowd absolutly s****ing over Gates during the match. </p><p> </p><p>

In the first of 2 new debutes Merle O'Curle cut a promo putting the locker room on warning, he also appeared later in the show... but we'll get to that. </p><p> </p><p>

The second debut was "The Hardcore Canadian Pirate" Hugh De Aske, who issued an open challenge, unfortunatly his first match on Scottish Soil was not a memorable one for the Canuk Captain as none other than The Scottish Strongman Roly Muckletruck steamrolled Hugh in dominante form.</p><p> </p><p>

That left the main event of the evening seeing Milo Morningstar defend the title vs Meathead McCaulie in a weapons match, Milo ultimatly retained however as with Gates the crowd were less than receptive to Milo which may ulitmatley cut short his run with the belt.</p><p> </p><p>

Edit: Then days following the show get an email saying Myart is leaving for 21CW, nowhere near next event so held a special event Mark's Hoose Party, where Myart dropped the Hardcore title to Ultra Violent, who injured Myart in the match giving him a 6 day stinger... likely going to drop the title at Chaos as i cant be having him hurt my roster the whole time.</p>

[Gtact420]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And honestly given the fact, Carnie's not only a slimeball but a stupid one, is it really unrealistic he'd lose the promotion in a card game? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You sir just inspired a play through <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Macca316]

<p>Does anyone have pictures for SNP's titles?</p><p> </p><p>

Tried searching but couldn't find anything.</p>

[Peria]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Macca316" data-cite="Macca316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone have pictures for SNP's titles?<p> </p><p> Tried searching but couldn't find anything.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> AydenReid has some really good SNP belts.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537507" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537507</a></p>

[Macca316]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Peria" data-cite="Peria" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>AydenReid has some really good SNP belts.<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537507" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537507</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Those are brilliant! </p><p> </p><p> Thanks.</p>

[The Grand Avatar]

I was hoping this was just going to be a thread full of screenshots of all the people Mark Carnie had pissed off in everyone's games.

[Macca316]

<p>Left this in the tag team and stables thread but it got no answer, thought I would try here. </p><p> </p><p>

In my gave I just got the ding that Lenny Mochin & Bob Effette (Chuck Frisby) have excellent chemistry as a team. </p><p> </p><p>

Can't for the life of me think of a name for them.</p><p> </p><p>

Any suggestions welcome.</p>

[Kitarzu]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Macca316" data-cite="Macca316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Left this in the tag team and stables thread but it got no answer, thought I would try here. <p> </p><p> In my gave I just got the ding that Lenny Mochin & Bob Effette (Chuck Frisby) have excellent chemistry as a team. </p><p> </p><p> Can't for the life of me think of a name for them.</p><p> </p><p> Any suggestions welcome.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I would call them No Prejudice.</p><p> </p><p> It's a name I use for a team made of Lenny Cochin and Menace in SNP, but it would fit with Bob Effette too.</p>

[Macca316]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kitarzu" data-cite="Kitarzu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would call them No Prejudice.<p> </p><p> It's a name I use for a team made of Lenny Cochin and Menace in SNP, but it would fit with Bob Effette too.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nice! Thanks mate!</p>

[Hashasheen]

Bump for a question. I'm thinking of trying something similiar to the BJW style in Japan, with a hardcore and strong style division. Only here I'm thinking of a catch wrestling division, inspired by the IRL PWP Catch Division Championship. Obviously that'll go over like a fart in church with the base product, so does anyone have any ideas on how to balance it out with the product settings?