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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="gazwefc83" data-cite="gazwefc83" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not complaining, some people dont like stat suggestions, ill take a look and get back to you.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm 100% open to any suggestions, as long as it's not something stupid.</p>
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<p>PWG:</p><p> </p><p>

Add Jonah Rock</p><p> </p><p>

Add Bandido (in data as Magnifico II)</p><p> </p><p>

Add Brody King</p><p> </p><p>

Add David Starr</p><p> </p><p>

Add Flash Morgan Webster</p><p> </p><p>

Remove Brian Cage</p><p> </p><p>

Remove Mark Haskins</p><p> </p><p>

Remove Marty Scurll</p><p> </p><p>

Remove Matt Sydal</p><p> </p><p>

Remove Sami Callihan</p>

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<p>Daniel Vidot and Luke Menzies are apparently part of the new incoming Performance Centre class along with Garza jr and Keith Lee. </p><p> </p><p>

Toni Storm is being advertised by the WWE for their UK tourney events in June along with Wolfgang, Mark Andrews and Tucker Knight. </p><p> </p><p>

Squared Cirlce Sirens reported all the above as well as the fact that Jessamyn Duke & Marina Shafir have reported to the Centre meaning the WWE now has the complete set of UFC Four Horsewomen.</p>

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<p>Cesar Casafranca now wrestles as Rayo and works in CZW and Evolve</p><p> </p><p>

Clayton Jack (formerly of NXT) now wrestles as Kal Jak</p><p> </p><p>

Adam Wylde hasnt wrestled in 3 years</p><p> </p><p>

Trey Miguel, Zachary Wentz and Myron Reed should have a PPA contract with Evolve </p><p> </p><p>

The Chikara character Wani hasnt been used for a year the character was used by <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Kai Katana</span>.</p><p> </p><p>

Tony Omega, Ray Smith, Psycho (American), The East Coast Cowboy, Jacob Hollows and G-Force hasnt wrestled in 3 years</p><p> </p><p>

Body Snatcher, Vince Brent, Ray-Ray Marz, The Assassin (Kentucky) and The White Tiger hasnt been active in 2 years</p><p> </p><p>

Joey Rhymer and Big Daddy Freddie has not wrestled in 4 years</p><p> </p><p>

Bryan Kyle hasnt wrestled in 5 years</p>

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<p>Just a heads up, June's update will be out either Wednesday or Thursday. I'm also looking into activating MLW for the July release, I don't like rushing in early because "we have a TV deal" with Five Star being a prime example but they seem a bit more stable/serious and ussing some decent named.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

And for those who like my alternate reality mods you may be interested in something I have in the building stage, <strong>WWE Domination</strong>, a world where the fed wants world domination!</p><p>

<em>After buying the competition in the early 2000's, WWE created the brand split between Raw and SmackDown to encourage competition between the brands. After Vince McMahon's death in 2007 WWE went through some dramatic changes as the company was split between his children, each taking control of a brand and breaking off into their own promotions, with Shane deciding to move hiss base of operations into Canada. With both companies making good business the decision was made to create regional promotions around the globe under the banner of the "WWE Universe", In Mexico they bought out and rebrand AAA, in Japan they financed Mutoh and Tajiri's start up promotion, in England they reunited Regal with Brookside to create a new promotion, in Europe they worked with Alex Wright with his school and helped his start his promotion, and for Australia they invested into Pro Wrestling Australia who later rebranded under WWE.</em></p><p> </p><p>

A roster preview of WWE Domination is available in my Discord, link in the first post.</p>

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Here is the update for June, most of the work this month has been adding workers (FULL LIST HERE), most were for some other projects I'm working on so made sence to include them here too, other than that it's just been the typical updating for the month. The current plan for next month is to activate Major League Wrestling and to finally update Lucha Underground. There may also be a posibility of an updated picture pack next month, it all depends on getting through my backlog if it's not finished for July it will be out by August.

 

The first post has been updated with all links.

 

Enjoy

 

Database: June 2018 (2)

Graphics: June 2018

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There's a couple of things that need fixing:

 

- Carmella is supposed to be SmackDown Women's champion, not Charlotte Flair

- NJPW Best of the Super Juniors tournament's next prefix is 25

- Ronda Rousey is now on RAW and in the Women division, she should also not be a MMA fighter as she left MMA in general

- Celeste Braun is not married anymore and is back in the business, she should be Celeste Bonin now

- Kenny Omega is like one of the best wrestlers in the world, yet his USA popularity is so low

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There's a couple of things that need fixing:

 

- Carmella is supposed to be SmackDown Women's champion, not Charlotte Flair

That's weird, there were no changes this month for WWE so I didnt double check their champs, there is a lineage for Charlotte Flair losing the title to Cermella, guess I missed changing the champ. I've updated the link or just change it yourself.

 

The rest will be fixed for next month, for Omega he doesnt work much in the US anymore so his pop would be NJPW spillover, either way I'll up his pop to be similar to the Bucks.

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<p>Thanks for the update - most o us appreciate how much effort you and the other mod makers put into this stuff.</p><p> </p><p>

By the by next time you update you might want to up Buddy Murphy's in ring stats, if this weeks 205 proved nothing else it proved that Buddy Murphy is the most under-rated in ring competitor going around. That was a hell of a match and he's been consistently dong that since he came up from NXT. He's also renowned as a positive influence backstage in NXT (a Xavier Woods style organiser of fun) - shame he's got the charisma of a ring-post.</p>

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<p>This is the real world mod I've consistently used for years now, so thanks for all the work you've put in!</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>DDT stuff:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

The KO-D Tag Team Champions are Kazusada Higuchi and Daisuke SEKIMOTO, not Daisuke SASAKI.</p><p> </p><p>

Soma Takao joined the DAMNATION stable.</p><p> </p><p>

HARASHIMA joined Shuten Doji. Saki Akai should probably be a minor member of Shuten Doji, too.</p><p> </p><p>

Smile Squash and New Wrestling Aidoru are done as stables.</p><p> </p><p>

DDT's other big stable is ALL OUT (Konosuke Takeshita, Akito, and Shunma Katsumata).</p><p> </p><p>

It might be worth setting up Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling at this point to the starting active promotions, as a child company of DDT. They're gaining fast on Stardom in terms of popularity. If you're interested in that I can drum up some info for using. (The Dramatic DDT site is a godsend for this stuff.)</p><p> </p><p>

DDT got bought by a big corporation in Japan, so even if the sub-promotions like DNA, Ganpuro, and BASARA aren't taking off, DDT itself is in good shape and now has a weekly TV show called "DDT LIVE! Maji Manji" on Japanese broadcaster Abema TV, which for game purposes should probably be set as a weekly 2 hour show on Tuesday nights.</p><p> </p><p>

Guanchulo changed his name to Diego a year or so ago. He no longer works for DDT, as he had to leave Japan and return to Chile due to his visa expiring IIRC.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Dragon Gate stuff:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

In Dragon Gate, the VerserK stable is now known as ANTIAS, and the members are Shingo Takagi, Yasushi Kanda, Takashi Yoshida (the former Cyber Kong, unmasked - he lost his mask in May 2017 to YAMATO), T-Hawk, El Lindaman, and Eita.</p><p> </p><p>

Kagetora is now a member of Tribe Vanguard, and Kzy is out.</p><p> </p><p>

The newest stable in DG is Natural Vibes (Kzy, Punch Tominaga, "brother" YASSHI, Genki Horiguchi, and Susumu Yokosuka).</p><p> </p><p>

Naoki Tanizaki is no longer in Dragon Gate. He mainly works for Dove Pro now, but also works a lot for the DDT sub-promotion BASARA.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>AAA stuff:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Konnan is head booker for AAA now.</p><p> </p><p>

El Apache / Gran Apache died on May 7, 2017.</p><p> </p><p>

Big Mama is actually Big Mami.</p><p> </p><p>

Angelico, El Elegido, El Hijo del Pirata Morgan, El Mesias, El Zorro, Johnny Mundo, Ludxor II, Marty Casaus, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr, Mascarita Sagrada IV, Mini Abismo Negro, Mini Charly Manson, Mini Psycho Clown, Octagoncito II, Ricky Marvin, and Villano IV are all either gone or have not been seen in ages.</p><p> </p><p>

Villano III Jr., El Hijo del Vikingo, Ashley, Estrella Divina, Mr. Aguila, Mascara de Bronce, Histeria (Morphosis from CMLL), Psicosis II (Reapper from CMLL), Angel Mortal Jr. (as La Parka Negra IV alter ego), Black Taurus, Rey Escorpion, Kevin Kross, and Juventud Guerrera are all regulars now.</p><p> </p><p>

Arcangel Divino, Black Destiny, Genio del Aire, Black Danger, Mirage, Ultimo Maldito, Latigo, Toxin, Aramis, Astrolux, Halcon 78 Jr., Hades, Dragon Bane, Freelance, Iron Kid, Draztik Boy, Low Rider, and Impulso have all appeared in opening matches so I don't know who among them has signed and who hasn't.</p><p> </p><p>

Juventud Guerrera, Hernandez, Killer Kross, and Konnan are a stable called MAD. Other people might be members but those appear to be the core ones for now.</p><p> </p><p>

La Mascara, Maximo, and Psycho Clown are a stable called Los Mosqueteros del Diablo.</p><p> </p><p>

Carta Brava Jr. II, Mocho Cota Jr., and Tito Santana (Mexican) are a stable called El Poder del Norte.</p><p> </p><p>

Averno, Chessman, and Super Fly are a stable called Los OGT's.</p><p> </p><p>

Joe Lider, Mr. Aguila, and La Parka Negra IV are the current Los Perros del Mal stable.</p><p> </p><p>

Monsther Clown and Murder Clown are a tag team known as Los Traidor Clowns.</p><p> </p><p>

Histeria and Psicosis II are a tag team called Los Vipers and should have a high experience level.</p><p> </p><p>

Cuervo and Escoria are a tag team called The Dark Family and should have 100 experience.</p><p> </p><p>

Los Inferno Rockers, El Consejo, and Team Trump are defunct stables.</p><p> </p><p>

Rey Misterio Jr. and Alberto el Patron have "special attraction" deals.</p><p> </p><p>

The Rey de Reyes tournament lineage is missing the last two years: Argenis won in 2017, Rey Escorpion in 2018.</p><p> </p><p>

The Tag champions are two title reigns behind:</p><p>

Monsther and Murder Clown won them on 8/26/17 and had 1 defense.</p><p>

Cuervo and Escoria won them on 12/16/17 and had 2 defenses.</p><p>

El Texano Jr. and Rey Escorpion won them on 3/25/18 and have had 3 defenses and counting.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>CMLL stuff:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

El Terrible is a member of Los Ingobernables.</p><p> </p><p>

Zeuxis has left CMLL.</p><p> </p><p>

Johnny Idol and Sam Adonis appear to be gone from CMLL.</p><p> </p><p>

Cibernetico is gone.</p><p> </p><p>

Morphosis and Reapper are gone. They jumped back to AAA last year at Triplemania and returned to their AAA names, Histeria and Psicosis II.</p><p> </p><p>

El Sexy Team and El Comando Caribeno are defunct stables.</p><p> </p><p>

LA Park and El Hijo del LA Park have non-exclusively joined CMLL, possibly under short term deals.</p><p> </p><p>

LA Park, El Hijo del LA Park, Volador Jr., and Flyer are in a stable called La Familia Real.</p><p> </p><p>

Sanson II, El Forastero, and El Cuatrero are a stable called La Nueva Generacion Dinamita.</p><p> </p><p>

Rey Fenix has some kind of non-exclusive CMLL deal now, probably as a "special attraction" type wrestler.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Other Stuff</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Masayuki Mitomi and Mitomi Masayuki are the same person.</p><p> </p><p>

Tsukushi should no longer have a Starting Absence as she's back working for Ice Ribbon.</p><p> </p><p>

Ayako Hamada was fired from the promotions she works for and is currently in jail in Japan on drug charges (meth).</p>

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<p>More notes from rooting around in the latest DB:</p><p> </p><p>

- In CMLL, Angel de Oro lost his mask to El Cuatrero in March 2018.</p><p> </p><p>

- Sammy Guevara, Darby Allin, and El Samoano are all also in AAA now.</p><p> </p><p>

- Yoshihiro Takayama should be listed as retired. He's paralyzed from the neck down, probably permanently.</p><p> </p><p>

- In Dragon Gate, Flamita, El Bandido, Zachary Wentz, and Dezmond Xavier are all favored touring roster members.</p><p> </p><p>

- In Dragon Gate, Toru Kido has replaced Takashi Okamura as CEO. CIMA has relocated to China to work for a wrestling company there, but is still affiliated with DG. I'm not sure who should replace him as booker, if anyone.</p><p> </p><p>

- In DDT, Makoto Oishi, Danshoku Dino, Super Sasadango Machine, and Antonio Honda are a stabled called DDT New Variety Group.</p><p> </p><p>

- Cherry has left DDT.</p><p> </p><p>

- Dai Suzuki has left DDT and is retired.</p><p> </p><p>

- Sean Brennan/Guinness is not part of DDT at the moment.</p><p> </p><p>

- Atsushi Maruyama has left DDT and has signed a contract with AJPW.</p><p> </p><p>

- The WWN promotions and DDT have working agreements. Jason Kincaid, Ethan Page, and Priscilla Kelly have all toured with DDT through the agreement.</p><p> </p><p>

- Shigehiro Irie and Mizuki Watase are a tag team in DDT.</p><p> </p><p>

- Naomi Yoshimura, Akira Jo, and Keisuke Okuda are all in DDT and together form a stable called Naomi Kingdom.</p><p> </p><p>

- In DDT, Antonio Honda, Sanshiro Takagi, Kazuki Hirata, Toru Owashi, Super Sasadango Machine, Danshoku Dino, and Makoto Oishi should all have strong Comedy ratings, as all of these guys are primarily comedy wrestlers.</p>

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<p>More, more, more lucha stuff:</p><p> </p><p>

- Magnifico I is signed to CMLL as Magia Blanca.</p><p> </p><p>

- Yago and Templario are both signed to CMLL.</p><p> </p><p>

- Not in the DB is Angelikal, a luchador signed to AAA, who's a Blood Relative of both Magnifico I and II -- <a href="http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Angelikal" rel="external nofollow">http://www.luchawiki.com/index.php?title=Angelikal</a></p><p> </p><p>

- Brazo de Oro passed away on April 28, 2017.</p><p> </p><p>

- Universo 2000 Jr, Sanson II, El Forastero, El Cuatrero, Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000, Universo 2000, and Mascara Ano 2000 Jr are all Blood Relatives of one another.</p><p> </p><p>

- Flyer is a Blood Relative of Volador Jr., Super Parka, LA Park, and Black Spirit/El Hijo de LA Park.</p><p> </p><p>

- Fuerza Guerrera is a Blood Relative of Juventud Guerrera. I don't know if relatives can also have a dislike of one another, but they don't appear to be on good terms.</p><p> </p><p>

- El Hijo del Tirantes and El Tirantes are Blood Relatives.</p><p> </p><p>

- Silver King is Split Up from Xochitl Hamada.</p><p> </p><p>

- Xochitl Hamada is currently married to Pentagon Black.</p><p> </p><p>

- Makoto Oishi and Misaki Ohata are currently engaged.</p><p> </p><p>

- AAA's default announcers are Hugo Savinovich and Jesus Zuniga, afaik.</p><p> </p><p>

- CMLL's default announcer is Julio Cesar Rivera for most, if not all shows. Color commentators can vary but I don't recall who co-hosts which show off the top of my head.</p><p> </p><p>

- Negro Navarro and Black Terry can probably safely be taken off CMLL's roster, or have their deals/roster positioned moved to occasional wrestlers. They only come in for occasional legends shows nowadays, which I don't think even make TV anymore.</p><p> </p><p>

- CMLL's TV could probably use an overhaul. Their schedule is probably best represented as three weekly events (Arena Puebla on Mondays in South Eastern Mexico, Martes de Nuevos Valores on Tuesdays in West Central Mexico, and Super Viernes on Fridays in West Central Mexico), all at three hours, with Mon and Tues at normal prestige or below average prestige and Fri at above average. All of the events broadcast on Youtube. Friday is technically on a one-day Youtube delay, if you want to get really specific, and airs on ClaroSports.com in Mexico live. CMLL Lucha Azteca airs on Sundays and shows highlights from the Friday show. CMLL Guadalajara airs on Saturdays and shows highlights from weekly Guadalajara shows, so it'd be easiest to represent as just its own 90 minute show.</p><p> </p><p>

- AAA's TV is AAA Worldwide, a 90 minute show on Gala TV and Space in Mexico. They show the same stuff, but a week apart, so it's probably easiest to just call it the same show. Their monthly events now stream exclusively on Twitch.</p><p> </p><p>

Sorry for the triple post of spammy notes, but hopefully you find it useful in making a realer real-world.</p>

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<p>Thanks for all your work. A few minor things I noticed that you can fix if you want </p><p> </p><p>

Desi Derata is actually Native American, Johnny Idol should be Pacific Islander, Jinny Coture is Indian not white, Bea Priestley is actually a New Zealander.</p>

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<p>Jake Hager is joining Lucha Underground</p><p> </p><p>

In news not really mod related but interesting - Colt Cabana & CM Punk received a unanimous verdict in their favour in the case brought against them by WWE Dr Chris Amann.</p><p> </p><p>

Chris Jericho should get Owner/ Booker skills upgrades as his cruise thing continues to gather more strength with Impact Wrestling also becoming involved.</p><p> </p><p>

Lio Rush is moving to 205 live according to an ad on this weeks 205 live</p><p> </p><p>

Buddy Murphy & Mustafa Ali achieved the impossible and drew a this is awesome chant at this weeks 205 live (the crowd is always dead). Both guys were on fire. Murphy seems to be unable to have a bad match nowadays as does Ali and both should probably have those stats upped to reflect just how good they. really are at this point.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="alpha2117" data-cite="alpha2117" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jake Hager is joining Lucha Underground<p> </p><p> In news not really mod related but interesting - Colt Cabana & CM Punk received a unanimous verdict in their favour in the case brought against them by WWE Dr Chris Amann.</p><p> </p><p> Chris Jericho should get Owner/ Booker skills upgrades as his cruise thing continues to gather more strength with Impact Wrestling also becoming involved.</p><p> </p><p> Lio Rush is moving to 205 live according to an ad on this weeks 205 live</p><p> </p><p> Buddy Murphy & Mustafa Ali achieved the impossible and drew a this is awesome chant at this weeks 205 live (the crowd is always dead). Both guys were on fire. Murphy seems to be unable to have a bad match nowadays as does Ali and both should probably have those stats upped to reflect just how good they. really are at this point.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> All WWE stats need to be better. Is it even possible to get a good rating by doing a realistic show or do I need the Rock and Steve Austin in every segment?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Cult3" data-cite="Cult3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All WWE stats need to be better. Is it even possible to get a good rating by doing a realistic show or do I need the Rock and Steve Austin in every segment?</div></blockquote><p> Hell no. WWE sucks in real life and it's totally realistic that their shows have bad ratings. There is only a handful of good WWE guys nowadays.</p>
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<p>*takes a look at the previous two posts*</p><p> </p><p>

 

</p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/FONN-0uoTHI?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Ron Burgundy - That Escalated Quickly"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p>

*hopes everyone knows I'm just ribbing*</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Cult3" data-cite="Cult3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All WWE stats need to be better. Is it even possible to get a good rating by doing a realistic show or <strong>do I need the Rock and Steve Austin in every segment</strong>?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is that not how WWE booking mentality is these days?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Originally Posted by <strong>Cult3</strong> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2294208#post2294208" rel="external nofollow"><span>http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif</span></a> <p> <em>All WWE stats need to be better. Is it even possible to get a good rating by doing a realistic show or </em><em><strong>do I need the Rock and Steve Austin in every segment</strong></em><em>?</em></p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Yes it is possible. Its called smart booking <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>In regard to those multiple lucha posts on the last page</p><p> </p><p>

Is there any conformation of Cibernetico, Johnny Idol & Sam Adonis leaving CMLL, I've checked Wikipedia and LuchaWiki and they don't mention anything, plus they have all had matches for CMLL in the last 3 months.</p><p> </p><p>

There may be more to this as I slowly work my way through the list.</p>

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<p>Sam Adonis and Johnny Idol, if they aren't gone, seem to be on the outs with the promotion. </p><p> </p><p> This is a quote from <a href="http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2018/05/22/zeuxis-leaves-cmll-ug-stuka-tonight-ug-terrible-next-week-ug-castle-next-month/" rel="external nofollow">http://www.thecubsfan.com/cmll/2018/05/22/zeuxis-leaves-cmll-ug-stuka-tonight-ug-terrible-next-week-ug-castle-next-month/</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In an interview in Sinaloa, Johnny Idol noted he hasn’t been in CMLL in two months and didn’t seem to know when/if he’ll be back. It’s noticeable Sam Adonis is back in Mexico this week to work ChilangaMask and DragonMania (still no lineup) but isn’t on any CMLL shows. I think they’re both done in CMLL.<p> </p><p> I don’t know the reason. I do know CMLL filed for a US trademark of “MISTICO” on April 12th, after Heroes of Lucha Libre had filed for their own trademark on “MÍSTICO” two months earlier. CMLL filed for that trademark just about the same day they pulled Adonis from the Casas match, and neither he or Idol has been booked since and Mistico & Dragon Lee aren’t on the June HOLL show. Adonis seemed to be the connection between Mistico & Dragon Lee & HOLL, CMLL is sensitive over the ownership of the Mistico name after everything that’s happened with Caristico & WWE, and it’s possible Adonis got the punishment for HOLL’s trademark (regardless if he was or was not had any responsibility for it), and Idol was cut loose because his only role was to fill out the trio they’re no longer running. I haven’t asked around, but the timing matches up. Adonis has mentioned a bunch of upcoming dates elsewhere in the world, and I’d suspect Idol would be looking for non-Mexico bookings too.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The Cibernetico CMLL matches from the last couple months on LuchaDB look like they're shows run by CMLL local promoters, which are basically indy shows that have agreements with CMLL to use some of their guys. He was on an Arena Mexico show in February that was co-promoted as CMLL and ELITE, but the CMLL/ELITE deal evaporated almost immediately after that one show and it looks like AAA has purchased ELITE outright. (It's AAA, so it's hard to figure out WHAT'S going on there, other than people showing up in ELITE shirts on the last two AAA shows.) I guess you COULD keep Cibernetico on the CMLL roster to reflect him working on those indy shows, but it'd definitely be an open contract, since he seems to just main event local indy shows for all kinds of different promoters these days.</p><p> </p><p> Speaking of AAA, spoilers for their last two shows...</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">- Hernandez, Dr. Wagner Jr., El Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., and Blue Demon Jr. all are out.</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> - LA Park, El Hijo del LA Park, and Pentagon Jr. are in, working for both AAA AND CMLL (Park spoiled that Penta will be working CMLL soon)</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> - Jeff Jarrett is in, and won the Mega championship from Wagner.</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> - MAD is Konnan, Jeff Jarrett, Juventud, Killer Kross, and as far as we know Teddy Hart (he was called out by Double J, but hasn't appeared on like 3 straight shows)</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> - Keyra, Golden Magic, Xtreme Tiger, and Laredo Kid are all in.</span> /spoilers</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheCed" data-cite="TheCed" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41793" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hell no. WWE sucks in real life and it's totally realistic that their shows have bad ratings. There is only a handful of good WWE guys nowadays.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you're doing a real world game it's not realistic at all. Are their ratings as bad as shown in the game?</p>
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