C-Verse 1977: The Rebirth: The Secret of Farmer Fran's Gold: The Hype Thread

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Probably not, no. As The Celt mentioned, in C-Verse cannon there's very, very little going on in Australia until recentish times, unfortunately. If I find the time I might see if I can't squeeze in a few workers down there, maybe add a couple of official graduates of Walleye Conklin's dojo on the continent. Going "But there was ACTUALLY a 'major' company down there a long time ago, it just wasn't ever mentioned before!" just isn't something I'm particularly comfortable with.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm sure nobody would be too distraught by having some small and local companies that are not well funded littered in Australia be a bad thing.</p>

[paulskln]

Comradebot i private messaged you about this. i think i sent something might help you.

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Nachtfalter" data-cite="Nachtfalter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've never had a real game with any of the old versions but I'm looking forward to giving this a real go this time around. Someone needs to teach that Eisen kid he's not all that...<p> </p><p> Just one small wish, if I may: Please don't put **** characters in the German promotion again. It's not that the character itself offends me, but having it in a German promotion is so utterly unrealistic that it completely destroys the credibility and plausibility of the gameworld for me. You can put **** characters literally everywhere else in the world in the 70s but in Germany it would have been unthinkable (not to mention illegal) to have anything resembling a **** character in a wrestling show.</p><p> Since the promotion is supposed to have it's headquarters in West Berlin, what would make much more sense would be Soviet or Eastern German (DDR aka German Democratic Republic) main villains.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Yay, censorship works. In case it's not clear, I was making mention of "a certain faction of Germany's past" (that's how it was worded in the old versions of the mod, wasn't it? At least something similar <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll be honest, I'm kind of a mark for "The Brotherhood"... though I understand and agree with many of your sentiments, especially that it'd be potentially quite illegal. </p><p> </p><p> With that said, they don't need a huge repackaging. Nothing stopping Commandant Markus Maeir from just being a sadistic, ruthless officer in the Bundeswehr. Aryan Barbarian is a little trickier, since his facist gimmick is right there in the name. Could probably just call him "The Barbarian" when he's in Europe, leaving him (and Markus) free to use their N@zi gimmicks when they're NOT in WBW.</p><p> </p><p> Because it's really WBW where they run into this problem. Outside of Germany in this period, guys working N@zi gimmicks would be universally despised but there wouldn't be any major legal ramifications.</p>

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm sure nobody would be too distraught by having some small and local companies that are not well funded littered in Australia be a bad thing.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Probably not, no, but it'd still be a sizable undertaking and I've already got a lot on my plate.</p><p> </p><p> I'll start brainstorming, and I'll see about squeezing in at least a few more workers down there, but anything more major would probably have to wait until after release. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Like I've said, priority one right now is getting the mod up to snuff to be as complete and compatible with 2016 as it can. I'm still adding some new touches here and there as I go, but it's not the speediest process. Right now my biggest goal is trying to make sure future workers aren't debuting as the biggest stars in the world or with overly inflated stats, and trying to find workers who's stats have changed so dramatically they need to be re-worked entirely. </p><p> </p><p> That, and bios. Maybe it's not needed for balance, but I can't resist giving more fleshed out biographies to a lot of folks.</p>

[Hashasheen]

@Comradbot: Maybe make it so a Japanese or American promotion has notable popularity there, inciting them to put on shows in the area and maybe have a couple of European wrestlers on their roster for "local" babyfaces?

[NickRLLRingCrew]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ATN90" data-cite="ATN90" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dewey the Bear!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was his name? Which mod was he in?</p><p> </p><p> *doesn't matter which version of TEW. Only lacks the '07 version. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> *</p>

[Nachtfalter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll be honest, I'm kind of a mark for "The Brotherhood"... though I understand and agree with many of your sentiments, especially that it'd be potentially quite illegal. <p> </p><p> With that said, they don't need a huge repackaging. Nothing stopping Commandant Markus Maeir from just being a sadistic, ruthless officer in the Bundeswehr. Aryan Barbarian is a little trickier, since his facist gimmick is right there in the name. Could probably just call him "The Barbarian" when he's in Europe, leaving him (and Markus) free to use their N@zi gimmicks when they're NOT in WBW.</p><p> </p><p> Because it's really WBW where they run into this problem. Outside of Germany in this period, guys working N@zi gimmicks would be universally despised but there wouldn't be any major legal ramifications.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep. Between legal issues and the public backlash, I'd argue the promotion would be out of business within months.</p><p> </p><p> I don't have the rest of the roster in my head right now, but if you're attached to the characters, maybe it'd be easiest to just move the promotion to Paris or somewhere else in Europe.</p>

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Nachtfalter" data-cite="Nachtfalter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yep. Between legal issues and the public backlash, I'd argue the promotion would be out of business within months.<p> </p><p> I don't have the rest of the roster in my head right now, but if you're attached to the characters, maybe it'd be easiest to just move the promotion to Paris or somewhere else in Europe.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I went ahead and edited, so in WBW/Germany, they're not N@zis. Just a military officer gimmick, with The (not-Aryan in WBW) Barbarian as his bodyguard.</p><p> </p><p> And in the pre-Internet days, only the most hardcore of fans would even be aware they might have less-than-savory gimmicks outside Germany. I think it works out, but I'm also not German so I could be wrong.</p>

[Sons of Kohral]

This looks sick. Can't wait for a beta. Have the itch for territories.

[Nachtfalter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I went ahead and edited, so in WBW/Germany, they're not N@zis. Just a military officer gimmick, with The (not-Aryan in WBW) Barbarian as his bodyguard.<p> </p><p> And in the pre-Internet days, only the most hardcore of fans would even be aware they might have less-than-savory gimmicks outside Germany. I think it works out, but I'm also not German so I could be wrong.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't see any problems with that. I wasn't alive in the 70s but I don't think there were any kayfabe breaking magazines in Europe until the 90s so it would be very unlikely for anyone in Germany to know about characters elsewhere in the wrestling world.</p>

[khaozxtheory]

<p>Any progress updates?</p><p> </p><p>

So hyped for this. You, sir, are a legend for doing this.</p>

[ShiningWizzro]

Is this still a thing? I loved the 77 mod.

[Comradebot]

Just a quick update. Life's been happening as of late, up to and including my house burning down. No, literally, burned to the ground. Thanks lightning!

 

HOWEVER, all the data is just fine and dandy as the laptop I had it saved on was with me and not in said inferno. Haven't gotten much work done, but now that I can actually breath again I'll be back in full swing soon. Sorry for the delay but... well... shit happens. A lot of shit, as is my case, but the mod is alive and well. :-)

[ShiningWizzro]

Shit, man. Sorry to hear about your house.

 

Hope you get back on your feet soon.

[Stennick]

I am really sorry about your house man. Screw the mod having your house and presumably most things you own turned to ash is horrifying.

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am really sorry about your house man. Screw the mod having your house and presumably most things you own turned to ash is horrifying.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep, lost a lot. Thankfully, my girlfriend and I recently moved in together so a good portion of the most valuable stuff was safely at the new place.</p><p> </p><p> With that said... yeah, probably about half of everything I own went up in the blaze, a lot of which I can never replace.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> As for the mod, I'm continuing my work on it (it's too fun not to!). I wish it was done, but I'm pretty obsessively cleaning up a LOT of stuff for future workers. I've basically drawn the line at re-balancing the stats of each and every worker set to debut, because if I do that then this will never get released. Unless something is painfully off (which happens), I tend to leave it as is.</p><p> </p><p> I'm also experimenting with using narratives to sometimes reflect the more dramatic changes in characters throughout the C-Verse, stuff like E.Z. Ryder making a change to Wiley Steinway as his main name (rather than just having the modern name set as an alter ego). Probably not something I'll fully flesh out for the initial release (alter egos are a solid band-aid), but just a fun experiment to mess with and maybe expand on in the more distant future. But at the moment, E.Z. Ryder is set to start going by Wiley Steinway and Gene Curtis is set to "retire" a day before the mysterious Enygma bursts onto the scene. But seeing as how none of that will even happen until the early 2000s...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Anyways, I'm still working on it folks. I just have a bad habit of sparing no detail when I have the chance.</p>

[The Celt]

If you need any help, let me know and I'll do what I can.

[Stennick]

Same here my wife just had a baby which means I'm taking six to seven weeks off of work and ironically enough newborn babies don't do a whole heck of a lot so I'd have some time to help out anywhere/anyway I could.

[moafnsteel]

Just checking in to see if there has been any updates or progress, I am super excited for this mod. I would offer to help but I do not know C-Verse that well and I cannot make graphics worth a darn.

[louis1016]

Any chance you would release a beta version of the mod? I'm not sure how far into the future you've finished modifying the workers but the reality is chances are most players arent even going to hit 10 years.

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moafnsteel" data-cite="moafnsteel" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just checking in to see if there has been any updates or progress, I am super excited for this mod. I would offer to help but I do not know C-Verse that well and I cannot make graphics worth a darn.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey! Life has been hectic since the whole, you know, house fire thing.</p><p> </p><p> But yes, it's still coming along. With the worst in the past, right now I'm throwing myself back into it this and will, gods willing, be done in the not so distant future. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I'm still in the process of my "final walk-through" of cleaning up every, single worker in the database by making sure they have default gimmicks, body sizes/types, are located in proper locations, and that nothing is obviously "broken" about them. At the same time, I'm currently experimenting with using narratives and alter egos still to try and "replicate" some worker's transitions from one character to another between iterations of TEW. For example, having E.Z. Ryder become primarily known as Wiley Steinway at the appropriate time, and having Harmon Girard be widely known still as Fortius Minimus. But, at least for initial release, this will be kept to a minimum as it's both time consuming and it's probably best to keep pre-determination a little limited. </p><p> </p><p> With that said, I'll be damned if I can't have Fortius Minimus running around.</p>

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="louis1016" data-cite="louis1016" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance you would release a beta version of the mod? I'm not sure how far into the future you've finished modifying the workers but the reality is chances are most players arent even going to hit 10 years.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The problem is, there's really no way to sort wrestlers by "time of debut". And honestly, it's a goal I personally absolutely want to achieve before I make any sort of official release. Not only that, but releasing it now would probably hurt my motivation to truly "finish" the mod in the future. When I'm this close... eh, best not to chance it.</p><p> </p><p> I'll consider a "beta" release some time after all the workers have been given at least the most minor amount of love, though in truth there won't be too much else left to do at that point. A few other things absolutely still need to be cleaned up, but nothing major.</p><p> </p><p> Though I suppose I can release a "beta version" for everyone after that, and see if we can't find anything obviously broken. And I <em>suppose</em> I can use that time to focus more on some of the "fun" stuff I want to get into the mod. Various silly narratives and the like, of which I have for too many.</p>

[Mr T Jobs To Me]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41928" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The problem is, there's really no way to sort wrestlers by "time of debut". And honestly, it's a goal I personally absolutely want to achieve before I make any sort of official release. Not only that, but releasing it now would probably hurt my motivation to truly "finish" the mod in the future. When I'm this close... eh, best not to chance it.<p> </p><p> I'll consider a "beta" release some time after all the workers have been given at least the most minor amount of love, though in truth there won't be too much else left to do at that point. A few other things absolutely still need to be cleaned up, but nothing major.</p><p> </p><p> Though I suppose I can release a "beta version" for everyone after that, and see if we can't find anything obviously broken. And I <em>suppose</em> I can use that time to focus more on some of the "fun" stuff I want to get into the mod. Various silly narratives and the like, of which I have for too many.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know most of the original debut dates are just left at 18 years old. One of the things you could do for faster editing would be to move the starting date of the mod up (sheerly to change values) and then use your filters to capture data better. </p><p> </p><p> Also, I think I only really left about 20-30 of the future bigtimers close to their original stats, there was something with the TEW that it came out for that people couldn't improve beyond their opponent and over time that was reducing upper caps on stats. I do think that's since been tweaked.</p>

[Ufnal]

Just wanted to say I found myself today strangely craving for this mod and I am keeping my fingers crossed for it!

[louis1016]

Hey any update on this? Been about 5 months since last update. Cant wait to finally play it!