DOTM Nominations - July 2016 [NEW] [Under New Managament]

[Togg]

I would like to thank angeldelayette and Anderz who wished me good luck and ultimately gave me permission to take the reigns. I’ve always been passionate about the Diaries and the DOTM [being a former winner ;-), just that once, in 2011]. I have been in talks the past few weeks about bringing back the DOTM, so i'm more than excited to announce its return.

 

I hope the new format is a positive step back to the “old way” of doing things, while providing something a little new. Hopefully the Trophies will also give everyone that feel of a little more competition to get better and collect more “Bragging rights” than their rivals.Also i hope the new Legend tier helps to encourage the newer Diary writers who feel they are often overshadowed by the more experienced writers. Now untill they are a 5 times winner, they don't have to worry about competing with the “Big Dogs”. This helps to do away with the former system of “New Diary of the Month”Another thing is the addition of the back to back winner’s being allowed. Now with a two tier system, i think it makes more sense not to block a writer from taking part in a month's voting, especially if they are the best diary that month. It only takes away from the winners bragging rights, if they can't compete with the best.

I have spent some time discussing these ideas with gds members and writers, so I hope this is what the masses are looking for.

 

Thanks for reading and if anyone has any suggestions, tips or complaints, feel free to Inbox me. Anyway please feel free to begin reading below and cast your Nominations

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Welcome to the Brand New "Diary of the Month" Awards.

 

July’s Diary of the Month

Diary Period: July 1st - July 31st (nominations end July 31st at Midnight)

(Voting Begins on August 1st)

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The Nomination System

The way in which you now Nominate and Vote has been changed. You can now nominate up to 3 Entries per Category. So in total that’s up to 24 Nominations a month. You don't have to put forward any more than 1 nomination, if you chose to add more, that's up to you. Also you don't have to have a nomination for every category. If you only want to vote for a diary and not an Event etc… you don't have to.

 

You can vote for diaries using any mod or timeframe, as long as they meet the criteria below, your vote will count.

• DOTM needs 2 or more nominations to be put up for the voting section. In case of a low turn out, 1 nomination will be allowed.
  
• Storyline, Worker, Event and Champions OTM only need 1 nomination to make it to the voting section.

Criteria:

• You Can Nominate your own Diary/Storyline/Worker/Event/Champion.
  
• You CANNOT Vote for your own Diary/Storyline/Worker/Event/Champion.
  
• The diary must be posted in the Total Extreme Wrestling 2016 Dynasties forum. (No other diaries will be considered eligible).
  
• The diary must have had one or more show’s posted within the current calendar month (as listed above).
  
• Please vote using the full title of the diary as it appears in the thread listing. If it is not clear which diary you are voting for the vote may not count.
  
• Please post a Link to the Diary you are Nominating
  
• When nominating one of the new “Storyline, Worker, Event or Championship” of the month. Remember to name the Diary/Writer in the nomination. You do not need to nominate the Diary to be able to nominate one of the above.
  
• The Previous month's winner is eligible to be nominated. The old rule of “Back to Back” winners being disallowed is no more. So winning May’s DOTM now means you can also win June’s DOTM.
  
• If a category has less than 3 nominees to put forward for voting, that category will not be voted on in that month.
  
• Once a nomination is official and placed below. There is no longer a need to Nominate the “Diary/Event/Worker” etc.

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The Catagorys

 

RW Diary of the Month

This is open to all new and existing diaries that Feature a Real World based mod. Any Diary writer who has won 4 or less “DOTM” can be eligible for this Category

 

C-Verse/Other Diary of the Month

This is open to all new and existing diaries that Feature a C-Verse or Fictional based mod. Any Diary writer who has won 4 or less “DOTM” can be eligible for this Category

 

[NEW] RW Legendary & C-Verse/Other Legendary Diary of the Month

This category is open to the more established heavily awarded Diary writers. Anyone who has won 5 or more “DOTM” enter this section. (RW and C-Verse are eligible)

 

[NEW] Video Diary of the Month

This is open to all new and existing diaries. Any Diary which host's Youtube/Twitch/Stream “DOTM” can be eligible for this Category (RW and C-Verse are eligible)

 

[NEW] Storyline of the Month

Any running storyline that has taken place in the last month is eligible for this category. (RW and C-Verse are eligible)

 

[NEW] Worker of the Month

Any worker that has Wrestled of Appeared in a show in the last month is eligible for this category. This means Wrestlers, Managers, Authority Figures etc are all allowed. (RW and C-Verse are eligible)

 

[NEW] Event of the Month

Any TV, PPV or Live Show that has taken place in the last month is eligible for this category. (RW and C-Verse are eligible)

 

[NEW] Match of the Month

Any Match that has taken place within the time period allowed, is eligible for nomination. (RW and C-Verse are eligible)

 

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The Voting System

Diary’s

Diaries and Legendary Diaries will be moving back to the old system of “Poll” voting using the TEW forums. Each will have its own thread and vote set up. This means you only get 1 vote per category (RW, C-Verse, RW and C-Verse Legendary). Please do not vote for your own Diary. It will be deducted and doing this on more than one occasion will be dealt with.

 

Storylines, Workers, Events and Champions

The Voting system for the new “Other” categories will work on a “Points” system. During the Voting section, you can cast your votes using points. 3 points for your most favourite and then 2 and 1 points if you wish to vote for a second and third entry.A Google Poll will be set up for everyone to vote. It will be linked in all of the “DOTM” threads. You will be asked to rank or just pick a winner of each category and provide your GDS name to make sure no duplicate votes are made.Points will then be added up to decide a winner.

 

Points:

1st = 3 points

2nd = 2 points (non compulsory)

3rd = 1 points (non compulsory)

 

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[NEW]Diary of the Month/Year Trophies

New to the DOTM and DOTY are Trophies. Featured in the new “Rebirth” of the “DoTM” is “Award Trophies” like on Playstation and XBox you can now collect Trophies You can collect them and show them off in your Diary’s. So now you can literally say and show that you’re an award winning diary. At the end of the year, I will also host a Diary of The Year awards. Covering 11 Categories for everyone to take part in. Diary of the year will take place. All previous DOTM winners can message me for their trophies. You can also find your Trophy Wall at !!!LINK COMING VERY SOON!!!Here is a preview of the Trophy wall

 

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Legendary Nomination

Eligible Writers:

Angeldelayette

Beejus

Dragonmack

Dse81

Eisen-Verse

James Casey

Jhd1

michgcs

Nevermore

NoNeck

Phantom Stranger

Self

The Final Countdown

The Lloyd

TigerKinney

Tristram

Wildfire1324

 

*****Nomination Form (Copy and paste the Below)*****

 

My Nominations are...

 

RW Diary of the Month: [Diary/Link]

 

C-Verse Diary of the Month: [Diary/Link]

 

RW and C-Verse Legendary Diary of the Month: [Diary/Link]

 

Video Diary of the Month: [Diary/Link]

 

Storyline of the Month: [Diary/Storyline/Link]

 

Worker of the Month: [Diary/Worker/Link]

 

Event of the Month: [Diary/Event/Link]

 

Worker of the Month: [Diary/Champion/Link]

 

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Official Nomination’s

 

TBA

[RingRider]

Hey Togg,

 

I totally dig the new system. I think's its totally fair and comprehensive. Any chance you could elaborate on the "championship" of the month? Are we voting for a particular worker who is champion or a specific title based on perceived prestige?

 

Additionally, may I suggest a "match of the month"? I think this award could really celebrate a writer's ability to capture a really quality bout.

[shawn michaels]

Nice system, however you say "Storyline, Worker, Event and Champions OTM only need one nomination to make it to the voting section." and then "If a category has less than 3 nominees, that category will not be voted on in that month." Could you explain?

[R0x4ry]

nvm, just read it again. nice system btw.

[Togg]

Hey Togg,

 

I totally dig the new system. I think's its totally fair and comprehensive. Any chance you could elaborate on the "championship" of the month? Are we voting for a particular worker who is champion or a specific title based on perceived prestige?

 

Additionally, may I suggest a "match of the month"? I think this award could really celebrate a writer's ability to capture a really quality bout.

 

Thanks dude, I shall find a way to reword things better. But to clarify. Its "Champion" and not "Championship". So a worker who is a champion.

 

The idea of Match of the Month was brought up. It got overlooked, but im more than happy to Add it to the list if people want it

 

Nice system, however you say "Storyline, Worker, Event and Champions OTM only need one nomination to make it to the voting section." and then "If a category has less than 3 nominees, that category will not be voted on in that month." Could you explain?

 

Again thanks dude, and i will try to word things a little better. But for now...

to enter the DOTM and LDOTM a Diary needs 2 nominations, If there are not 3 or more Diarys qualifying (getting more than 2 nominations each). That category wont run.

 

Storyline, Worker, Event and Champions OTM... Only need 1 nomination to be entered into the Category, If there are not 3 or more "Storylines etc" qualifying. That category wont run.

 

Hope that helps

[Big Roguey]

"The Previous month's winner is eligible to be nominated. The old rule of “Back to Back” winners being disallowed is no more. So winning May’s DOTM now means you can also win June’s DOTM."

 

Going to argue this point. I understand the reasoning behind saying "You can go on a streak of winning DOTM" but at the same point in time, it's a very demoralising thing to see the same people win month after month. DOTM is, at its core, a popularity contest. If you're not a popular writer, you don't stand a chance if the same 3/4 names are always eligible to win. It then gets to the point where diaries with cracking promise give up because the writers go on to think "Well, I'm clearly not good enough for the monthly vote, so what's the point?".

 

DOTM allows silent feedback to blossom. Rather than have someone post in a diary that they like the work etc., you get people throwing a vote on a diary and moving on and it's only until the writer [it's happened to me in my WILD youth] notices it.

 

Also going to argue "Stream/Twitch/Youtube diarys are not eligable. If there is a call for them to be included, this might be revised."

 

They're very much as big a part of TEW diaries as written works. It's entirely unfair to dismiss them. If the person doing the uploading is putting in the effort, why be unnecessarily punished for it by not being eligible to get a bit of recognition?

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Also going to argue "Stream/Twitch/Youtube diarys are not eligable. If there is a call for them to be included, this might be revised."</p><p> </p><p> They're very much as big a part of TEW diaries as written works. It's entirely unfair to dismiss them. If the person doing the uploading is putting in the effort, why be unnecessarily punished for it by not being eligible to get a bit of recognition?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with this....video editing is hard work and can even be more time consuming than the written ones.</p>

[Andylion]

My two cents on the video dynasties, what about giving them a seperate category?

[R0x4ry]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Andylion" data-cite="Andylion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My two cents on the video dynasties, what about giving them a seperate category?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I would go for as well, since both of them are different beasts.</p>

[Togg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>"The Previous month's winner is eligible to be nominated. The old rule of “Back to Back” winners being disallowed is no more. So winning May’s DOTM now means you can also win June’s DOTM."<p> </p><p> Going to argue this point. I understand the reasoning behind saying "You can go on a streak of winning DOTM" but at the same point in time, it's a very demoralising thing to see the same people win month after month. DOTM is, at its core, a popularity contest. If you're not a popular writer, you don't stand a chance if the same 3/4 names are always eligible to win. It then gets to the point where diaries with cracking promise give up because the writers go on to think "Well, I'm clearly not good enough for the monthly vote, so what's the point?".</p><p> </p><p> DOTM allows silent feedback to blossom. Rather than have someone post in a diary that they like the work etc., you get people throwing a vote on a diary and moving on and it's only until the writer [it's happened to me in my WILD youth] notices it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I totally see your point <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. That's why the "Legend DOTM" idea was used. Once a writer has won 5 times, they are in the "Legends" bracket. It kind of makes DOTM a "Rookie/Newbie" playground, minus the 1 month cut off. </p><p> If you still don't like the idea of back to back winners after what I've said, i would be more than happy to maybe drop that rule if others feel the same. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also going to argue "Stream/Twitch/Youtube diarys are not eligable. If there is a call for them to be included, this might be revised."<p> </p><p> They're very much as big a part of TEW diaries as written works. It's entirely unfair to dismiss them. If the person doing the uploading is putting in the effort, why be unnecessarily punished for it by not being eligible to get a bit of recognition?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with this....video editing is hard work and can even be more time consuming than the written ones.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Andylion" data-cite="Andylion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My two cents on the video dynasties, what about giving them a seperate category?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="R0x4ry" data-cite="R0x4ry" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would go for as well, since both of them are different beasts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm a huge Video diary fan, but the talks that were had went towards they shouldn't be put in the same bracket as other "Text" diarys. I 100% would be happy to include them, however i agree with Andylion & R0x4ry about a different category, but would that be over kill? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>

[DAVEFAN95]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Togg" data-cite="Togg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I'm a huge Video diary fan, but the talks that were had went towards they shouldn't be put in the same bracket as other "Text" diarys. I 100% would be happy to include them, however i agree with Andylion & R0x4ry about a different category, but would that be over kill? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Definitely a different category imo</p>

[Andylion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Togg" data-cite="Togg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm a huge Video diary fan, but the talks that were had went towards they shouldn't be put in the same bracket as other "Text" diarys. I 100% would be happy to include them, however i agree with Andylion & R0x4ry about a different category, but would that be over kill? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't see how it would be. The more recognition people get, the better, I think. As long as they're distinct categories so people aren't sweeping the board with one 'thing,' (if that makes any sense) I think the more, the better.</p>

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Togg" data-cite="Togg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I totally see your point <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. That's why the "Legend DOTM" idea was used. Once a writer has won times, they are in the "Legends" bracket. It kind of makes DOTM a "Rookie" playground, minus the 1 month cut off. <p> If you still don't like the idea of back to back winners after what I've said, i would be more than happy to maybe drop that rule if others feel the same.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm still on the idea that a winner of one month should "sit out" the next month to just keep things fresh really. Stops the aforementioned same people winning in each bracket really.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Togg" data-cite="Togg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm a huge Video diary fan, but the talks that were had went towards they shouldn't be put in the same bracket as other "Text" diarys. I 100% would be happy to include them, however i agree with Andylion & R0x4ry about a different category, but would that be over kill? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wouldn't say a video category would be overkill. In fact, the likes of storyline/event/match/champion could all sorta be folded into the same category in my own opinion.</p>

[Togg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm still on the idea that a winner of one month should "sit out" the next month to just keep things fresh really. Stops the aforementioned same people winning in each bracket really.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Shall we hold a referendum to decide? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. Seems to be the theme of things atm <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">.</p><p> I get where you coming from tho. Would you maybe agree to a "Trial and Error" plan? Try if for 2-3months... if it is such a problem and its white wash across the board, We revert to the old, "sit out" method? or Allow back to back winners in the LDOTM but not the DOTM? </p><p> Its not the days of Nevermore's ECW or Tristrams WCW (not to mention Eisen-Verse's C-Verse diary's). So i wouldnt say its that much of a problem anymore, but im sure i can easily be proved wrong <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wouldn't say a video category would be overkill. In fact, the likes of storyline/event/match/champion could all sorta be folded into the same category in my own opinion.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Then Video Diary of the Month is a "Thing". More than happy to include it. I just didnt want to come back with "overkill" <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">.</p><p> P.S. the storyline/event/match/champion OTM awards are just minors to allow more winners a month and maybe let the newbies to have a chance of getting an early award. I made sure they were voted for using an outside poll... just so it wasnt a clusterf*** of DOTM voting threads.</p>

[crackerjack]

<p>I definitely think that Video dynasties should get their own award, as long as enough are posted here to justify the award. I think it's a tougher medium - folks have to record, edit AND write the shows to try to bring in the views. They should have a shot for some love.</p><p> </p><p>

I also think there's too many awards here - story/worker/champ/Event could all be lumped together as a "moment of the month" award or something similar to that. Plus, do I really want to write down a diary name, author, and a link for 4 more awards?</p><p> </p><p>

The answer - Daily Double</p>

[Andylion]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crackerjack" data-cite="crackerjack" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I also think there's too many awards here - story/worker/champ/Event could all be lumped together as a "moment of the month" award or something similar to that. Plus, do I really want to write down a diary name, author, and a link for 4 more awards?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I disagree. As someone that just recently (comparatively) got into dynasty-writing, the more chances you have for recognition, the more chances you have to feel inspired, and the more likely people are to continue. That's in my experience, though, since I'm motivated entirely by praise. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Besides, you don't have to vote for every category, if you're feeling lazy. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm still on the idea that a winner of one month should "sit out" the next month to just keep things fresh really. Stops the aforementioned same people winning in each bracket really.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't say a video category would be overkill. In fact, the likes of storyline/event/match/champion could all sorta be folded into the same category in my own opinion.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Arguable. Should FIFA stop giving awards to Messi and Ronaldo and/or put them in different categories? Don't get me wrong, i do understand what you are saying and many times votes will be cast due to popularity rather than quality, but the distinction between LDOTM and DOTM will certainly help. If the numbers need to be adjusted for more or less than 5, then i'm sure it can also be made.</p><p> </p><p> But it wouldn't also be fair if a diary could not win back to back and/or repeatedly while it is indeed the best, just for others to win. It may be a popularity contest, but if one wins 456 prizes on a row it means one is doing something well. Trying to end such a streak could also be a motivation. One should vote for who deserves to win for the right reasons and not just because he/she was won or not won enough times.</p><p> </p><p> To me it is unfair to impose quotas on awards, but that's just me. Not trying to flame or anything, just giving my 2 cents. At the end of the day though, one's motivation to keep writing should not be centered around awards, as I see it. Maybe we should at least try the new system before changing it.</p>

[crackerjack]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Andylion" data-cite="Andylion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I disagree. As someone that just recently (comparatively) got into dynasty-writing, the more chances you have for recognition, the more chances you have to feel inspired, and the more likely people are to continue. That's in my experience, though, since I'm motivated entirely by praise. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Besides, you don't have to vote for every category, if you're feeling lazy. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I get where you're coming from. But, in the old format, it was cool just to nominated for the DOTM. I think just knowing that someone thought you deserved to be up there with the best was rewarding enough for me. </p><p> </p><p> Still, the awards do still feel superfluous. But, I'm not a guy who writes for fun more than to get recognized on the forum.</p>

[Mootinie]

But it wouldn't also be fair if a diary could not win back to back and/or repeatedly while it is indeed the best, just for others to win. It may be a popularity contest, but if one wins 456 prizes on a row it means one is doing something well. Trying to end such a streak could also be a motivation. One should vote for who deserves to win for the right reasons and not just because he/she was won or not won enough times.

The company you write can be the difference between zero predictions and twenty predictions. I point to The Lloyd's WWE diaries as a classic example. I mean no offence at all when I say that The Lloyd often got votes from newer members that only ever voted his diary, or other modern day real world WWE ones. That's perfectly fine because he was ineligible the month after winning and it always felt like no matter what company you were writing, you would always have a chance of competing at the very least. Togg is right in that that's changed now but there's no concrete reason the system needed to be changed. This is fixing something that, IMHO, wasn't broken in the first place.

 

I get where you're coming from. But, in the old format, it was cool just to nominated for the DOTM. I think just knowing that someone thought you deserved to be up there with the best was rewarding enough for me.

I couldn't agree more. It's one of the reasons I am against the Legendary awards because going up against the best diaries on the board and finishing second by just three points was entirely more rewarding than the one win I got when The Lloyd and Beejus' diaries weren't eligible for nomination. But if the secondary and Legendary awards work for other people then I suppose they're a positive.

 

My major worry here is that there aren't enough quality diaries to sustain what is now four main votes. We have Real World and Fictional, plus Legendary votes. Long-term, there isn't a chance that all four votes will be highly competitive month in, month out. Are there not just three eligible diaries for Legendary C-Verse? Are there any even eligible for Legendary Real World at the moment? This is something I would have bought up had I been involved in the discussions for this. Which brings me to the next point: why wasn't there an open discussion on the forum about these awards? They rely on community participation, the least you could have done is asked the board at large what they thought before proceeding.

[Togg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crackerjack" data-cite="crackerjack" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I also think there's too many awards here - story/worker/champ/Event could all be lumped together as a "moment of the month" award or something similar to that. Plus, do I really want to write down a diary name, author, and a link for 4 more awards?<p> </p><p> The answer - Daily Double</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Andylion" data-cite="Andylion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I disagree. As someone that just recently (comparatively) got into dynasty-writing, the more chances you have for recognition, the more chances you have to feel inspired, and the more likely people are to continue. That's in my experience, though, since I'm motivated entirely by praise. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"><p> </p><p> Besides, you don't have to vote for every category, if you're feeling lazy. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The "Storyline, Worker, Event and Champion" of the month is more in the area of "B-Show" Diary of the Month. If you dont want to nominate them, you dont have to, plus the voting wont clog up the GDS Dynasty forum. Its there to encourage the newer writers who may have the best Show of the month or the best writen Worker of the month. They may miss out on DOTM but atleast they wont be dissheartend when they get a "Trophy" anyway. Also the 1 nomination gets you entered rule... allows for Writers to nominate themselves and get straight into the voting.</p><p> In closing... if you dont like the new addition, you dont have to nominate or take part in it. It wont effect the DOTM's at all, its just the sidekick of them.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Arguable. Should FIFA stop giving awards to Messi and Ronaldo and/or put them in different categories? Don't get me wrong, i do understand what you are saying and many times votes will be cast due to popularity rather than quality, but the distinction between LDOTM and DOTM will certainly help. If the numbers need to be adjusted for more or less than 5, then i'm sure it can also be made.<p> </p><p> But it wouldn't also be fair if a diary could not win back to back and/or repeatedly while it is indeed the best, just for others to win. It may be a popularity contest, but if one wins 456 prizes on a row it means one is doing something well. Trying to end such a streak could also be a motivation. One should vote for who deserves to win for the right reasons and not just because he/she was won or not won enough times.</p><p> </p><p> To me it is unfair to impose quotas on awards, but that's just me. Not trying to flame or anything, just giving my 2 cents. At the end of the day though, one's motivation to keep writing should not be centered around awards, as I see it. Maybe we should at least try the new system before changing it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks SM, im more than happy to adjust the numbers to "more or less than 5". It was only placed at 5 because i have added up all the previous DOTM wins and the higher end of above 5 seemed fair as there were 17 "5" or above and 75 with "4" or below. More name will obviously cross over in the coming months.</p><p> </p><p> Also "Maybe we should at least try the new system before changing it" im more than happy to revise a fewthings in a month or 3, if things need changing.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crackerjack" data-cite="crackerjack" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I get where you're coming from. But, in the old format, it was cool just to nominated for the DOTM. I think just knowing that someone thought you deserved to be up there with the best was rewarding enough for me. <p> </p><p> Still, the awards do still feel superfluous. But, I'm not a guy who writes for fun more than to get recognized on the forum.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was someone who wrote for fun and got deep into my storylines. But its always nice at the end of the day (or in this case month) to have a "pat on the back".</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The company you write can be the difference between zero predictions and twenty predictions. I point to The Lloyd's WWE diaries as a classic example. I mean no offence at all when I say that The Lloyd often got votes from newer members that only ever voted his diary, or other modern day real world WWE ones. That's perfectly fine because he was ineligible the month after winning and it always felt like no matter what company you were writing, you would always have a chance of competing at the very least. Togg is right in that that's changed now but there's no concrete reason the system needed to be changed. This is fixing something that, IMHO, wasn't broken in the first place. <p> </p><p> </p><p> I couldn't agree more. It's one of the reasons I am against the Legendary awards because going up against the best diaries on the board and finishing second by just three points was entirely more rewarding than the one win I got when The Lloyd and Beejus' diaries weren't eligible for nomination. But if the secondary and Legendary awards work for other people then I suppose they're a positive.</p><p> </p><p> My major worry here is that there aren't enough quality diaries to sustain what is now four main votes. We have Real World and Fictional, plus Legendary votes. Long-term, there isn't a chance that all four votes will be highly competitive month in, month out. Are there not just three eligible diaries for Legendary C-Verse? Are there any even eligible for Legendary Real World at the moment? This is something I would have bought up had I been involved in the discussions for this. Which brings me to the next point: why wasn't there an open discussion on the forum about these awards? They rely on community participation, the least you could have done is asked the board at large what they thought before proceeding.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey there was a lot of talks going on behind the scenes. Now is everyones chance to have their input publicly, but trying to manage a board of opinions while trying to formulate a plan would have been a logistical nightmare.</p><p> You might not think there is an issue to fix with back to back winners, but winning because last months diary cant compete this month even though its the best... I would rather come second. But like i havesaid, im more than happy to change this if the popular decision is against it.</p><p> </p><p> DOTM and Legendary DOTM... LDOTM will be slightly hindered to begin with untill other member get up through the "ranks" as such. Untill then. If the numbers are short, LDOTM RW and C-Verse could be combined for a month, or those writers could be assed to the DOTM... </p><p> </p><p> As the old saying goes... You can please some of the people all of the time, you cant please all of the people all of the time.</p><p> </p><p> But i shall do my best here.</p>

[Beejus]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They may miss out on DOTM but atleast they wont be dissheartend when they get a "Trophy" anyway.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm sorry but this just makes me think "Participation trophies for everyone!" <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Togg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm sorry but this just makes me think "Participation trophies for everyone!" <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"> Ok maybe i worded that a little wrong <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. In the words of Pokemon... Gotta (catch) Collect them All!</p>

[Anderz]

<p>In the last incarnation we had 5 different winners across the 6 months it ran for.. Lloyd won back to back.</p><p> </p><p>

Taking Lloyd as an example he ranked:</p><p>

20th - 1st - 1st - 7th - 5th - 9th</p><p> </p><p>

So that shows at least some level of variability at least.</p><p> </p><p>

Not sure whether this helps either side of the argument but I just present you with the facts <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Togg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Anderz" data-cite="Anderz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42144" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In the last incarnation we had 5 different winners across the 6 months it ran for.. Lloyd won back to back.<p> </p><p> Taking Lloyd as an example he ranked:</p><p> 20th - 1st - 1st - 7th - 5th - 9th</p><p> </p><p> So that shows at least some level of variability at least.</p><p> </p><p> Not sure whether this helps either side of the argument but I just present you with the facts <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, throw your fact in and run away <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. I dont know if that has made this more clear or confused me even more <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">. </p><p> </p><p> Why do i get the feeling im going to have to run a vote... #NoReReferendum <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> HERE GOES... <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNsWyMP6iRwJnpMFBzsEA2sqrShwSbdGwINtgbw-ziXB8m_Q/viewform" rel="external nofollow">Diary of the Month Feedback and Poll</a></p>

[The Lloyd]

I heard Lloyd used to PAY people to vote for him!!! SCANDAL!!!