MachoManOrton Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 To the point of alienating imported guys until they hand in their notice sometimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans_Brass_Shovel Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Only character I've ever had that asked for their release was Aldous Blackfriar. And that was because I pushed him as champion and he had an interview saying he was carrying the company on his back, which wasn't the case at all like with some guys that say that. So I had him drop the title and start jobbing to less arrogant guys. He asked for his release and I said no. Then he went and missed a meeting so I suspended him for a month. When he gets back he's gonna continue jobbing until I get all the Popularity out of him. Then when he makes another mistake he's fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Romans_Brass_Shovel" data-cite="Romans_Brass_Shovel" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Only character I've ever had that asked for their release was Aldous Blackfriar. And that was because I pushed him as champion and he had an interview saying he was carrying the company on his back, which wasn't the case at all like with some guys that say that. So I had him drop the title and start jobbing to less arrogant guys. He asked for his release and I said no. Then he went and missed a meeting so I suspended him for a month. When he gets back he's gonna continue jobbing until I get all the Popularity out of him. Then when he makes another mistake he's fired.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've never had any disciplinary problems with him at all. He's always been a really good guy for me to work with. Did you push him up the card quickly or something?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans_Brass_Shovel Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've never had any disciplinary problems with him at all. He's always been a really good guy for me to work with. Did you push him up the card quickly or something?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He was a very reliable upper Midcard heel as a Drag Queen but he was always a negative influence. He served his purpose for two years before I advanced him to the title and pushed him as a main eventer. He became a very negative influence immediately. He's got a crappy personality as it is anyway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d12345 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Romans_Brass_Shovel" data-cite="Romans_Brass_Shovel" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He was a very reliable upper Midcard heel as a Drag Queen but he was always a negative influence. He served his purpose for two years before I advanced him to the title and pushed him as a main eventer. He became a very negative influence immediately. He's got a crappy personality as it is anyway.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What company is that in? I have him in TCW as Matthew DeVille and he's given me minor trouble as well (things like bringing friends backstage bla bla).</p><p> </p><p> I ask what company because normally when someone asks me for their release and a reject their request they sit out the rest of their contract. Then I just release them anyway to save the money.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans_Brass_Shovel Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What company is that in? I have him in TCW as Matthew DeVille and he's given me minor trouble as well (things like bringing friends backstage bla bla).<p> </p><p> I ask what company because normally when someone asks me for their release and a reject their request they sit out the rest of their contract. Then I just release them anyway to save the money.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's my created company,</p><p> International Championship Entertainment</p><p> </p><p> I pushed him too hard. 90 pop in USA, Candada, and Mexico, 70 in UK and Europe. 22 or 23 years old so it all went to his head. Somehow I'm having the same problem with KC Glenn. I always have 100 percent backstage morale. It all went to their heads. Ernest Youngman and Fro Sure have been pushed just as hard but are positive influences.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Romans_Brass_Shovel" data-cite="Romans_Brass_Shovel" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's my created company,<p> International Championship Entertainment</p><p> </p><p> I pushed him too hard. 90 pop in USA, Candada, and Mexico, 70 in UK and Europe. 22 or 23 years old so it all went to his head. Somehow I'm having the same problem with KC Glenn. I always have 100 percent backstage morale. It all went to their heads. Ernest Youngman and Fro Sure have been pushed just as hard but are positive influences.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is something I never do in my training games. I always have veterans at the top of my card to start off. That way they can have the first couple title runs or so and the young guy who catches fire can then earn it organically rather than being pushed to the moon before he's ready. Perhaps by being the veteran heel's lieutenant for a while before usurping him or standing in for the beloved face that got chased off the roster. Probably for being too expensive offscreen.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhilleagle Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always have veterans at the top of my card to start off.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In a similar way, I try to keep to a rule regarding ages. I have minmums for the following. I break them rarely, and if a worker is in a tag team, I'm not usually bothered about the age:</p><p> </p><p> Jobbers: Any age</p><p> Lower Midcard: Age 25</p><p> Midcard: 27</p><p> Upper Midcard / Main Event: 29</p><p> </p><p> Like I say, I have been known to break these rules. I like my workers to get their first World Title at around the age of 30-32, If I feel they will win it multiple times.</p><p> </p><p> Not sure if this seems weird to some people, but I think workers need to earn the respect of their peers before they start main eventing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="redhilleagle" data-cite="redhilleagle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In a similar way, I try to keep to a rule regarding ages. I have minmums for the following. I break them rarely, and if a worker is in a tag team, I'm not usually bothered about the age:<p> </p><p> Jobbers: Any age</p><p> Lower Midcard: Age 25</p><p> Midcard: 27</p><p> Upper Midcard / Main Event: 29</p><p> </p><p> Like I say, I have been known to break these rules. I like my workers to get their first World Title at around the age of 30-32, If I feel they will win it multiple times.</p><p> </p><p> Not sure if this seems weird to some people, but I think workers need to earn the respect of their peers before they start main eventing.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Since there is a respect score in the game, it would probably make more sense to follow that than a strict age limit. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> As for myself, if I'm playing a larger company then it usually takes years for anyone to get near the world title picture, though some people can get to main event for other reasons. A lot of that is down to talent... if you aren't good enough for the main event, you're not going to be there anyway and it takes time to learn your craft.</p><p> </p><p> For smaller companies I am far more flexible. I'm playing a CV97 RtG game and while I have Luis Montero on the roster (a legend in every way) my main champion for almost a year was someone with massive charisma who slid into a great antagonist role and could carry promos with anyone. He may not be the best in-ring (as far as I can see) but he still managed to deliver up to A rated matches with the best on the roster and regularly hits A* segments. He has lost the gold now to Luis Montero and may not be in the world title hunt again for a while as I add serious star power to the roster but his youth, his promo talent and his home grown status made him something different for me to make awesome. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoManOrton Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42371" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is something I never do in my training games. I always have veterans at the top of my card to start off. That way they can have the first couple title runs or so and the young guy who catches fire can then earn it organically rather than being pushed to the moon before he's ready. Perhaps by being the veteran heel's lieutenant for a while before usurping him or standing in for the beloved face that got chased off the roster. Probably for being too expensive offscreen.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The first champion of my custom promotion was a 23 year old potential figurehead who ended up being just a little short on SQ. He never became a negative influence or disciplinary problem, but I swear he started off a humble positive influence the gradually turned neutral. Now that I've figured out who my mainstays are I'm gonna give people more organic pushes. I've got a guy whose abilities remind me a bit of him(strong entertainment/camera/performance, weak in-ring) serving as a lackey for Shady K's gang faction, jobbing to the stars, getting his successes in 3-4 on 1 beatdown angles, and the occasional entertainment angle where Bossman Brayfield hypes him as the future of the company.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans_Brass_Shovel Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 This is something I never do in my training games. I always have veterans at the top of my card to start off. That way they can have the first couple title runs or so and the young guy who catches fire can then earn it organically rather than being pushed to the moon before he's ready. Perhaps by being the veteran heel's lieutenant for a while before usurping him or standing in for the beloved face that got chased off the roster. Probably for being too expensive offscreen. Jack Bruce, American Machine, Frankie Perez, Bulldozer Brandon Smith, and Remmy Skye were my champions for the first two years. In this third year I've pushed some of my young stars to the belt like KC Glenn, Greg Guage, Aldous Blackfriar and Fro Sure. I have a brand split by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoxy Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 <p>For the most part, I tend to push those that I know how to book, regardless of their status as OG or import. (Of course, I'm much more likely to know how to book someone I've been using for years than someone I've just brought in, though.)</p><p> </p><p> If I bring in a person that autopushes to ME, they'll probably do a few jobs to established stars (I'm a fan of debuting new signings as "mystery/surprise challengers" for titles and major stars, to keep my top people in feuds from being in the ring together too often). I hardly ever have a storyline planned out for a person when I sign them, so I'll usually feed them midcarders and jobbers or put them as tag partners for feuds to keep their momentum from tanking until I figure out what to do with them. If I bring in a person that rates lower, I'll use them like I use everybody else at that level. If it turns out I like the cut of their jib, whether because they put on great matches, I like their gimmick or their picture or name, or whatever, then I might give them a sustained push. </p><p> </p><p> Regardless of whether they are homegrown or imports, I try to push people as organically as possible, but I'm also a sentimental woman who values loyalty, humility, and reliability. While I don't necessarily mind if a youngster tears it up and gets an ego, they'll get what I think they deserve or have earned. (A recent example: Veteran UM/jobber-to-the-stars, been with my company for years and approaching retirement. Thank-you push with a face turn, retired while holding top title. Her final match was a DQ victory over the person who won the vacated title at the next show.)</p><p> </p><p> My criteria for pushing people are generally as follows:</p><p> 1) I know how to get the best out of them.</p><p> 2) I have a long-term plan, or at least an idea, of the direction I want to take them.</p><p> 3) I like/respect them. (I don't care if you've got the best stats, destiny roll, and star quality in the world, I just can't get behind a push for someone I don't really want to see succeed.)</p><p> </p><p> So, I guess the short version of my answer is while I tend to favor homegrown stars because I know how to use them, I don't immediately job new hires down the card or neglect them to a degree that would alienate them. Sorry that was so rambly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayR666 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Trying to in my TNA save. I have 2 dojos. Have signed 4 wrestlers from them. Only 2 years in the save though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter8905 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 <p>I think I will run into this problem soon on my 198 game as WWF. </p><p> </p><p> Due to certain original plans having to be scrapped it turns out that Bulldog is about to have a heel turn and capture the Heavyweight title from Hogan at the age of 24/25. </p><p> </p><p> Dynamit as inured at start of mod and missed Mania so I kind of just had Bulldog floating around not doing much.. but he got over to Uppermidcard by himself without any sustained push of any kind and a few losses. I've not pushed him on from that he's not Main event level and being pushed up towards the 90's so he can defeat Hulkster.</p><p> </p><p> I can see this having a bad effect on Davey Boy but I hope he proves me wrong and has a good attitude, His attitude and his performances will decide how long his reign is, as currently it's only due to be a couple months and will decide if he ever gets another reign in the next decade. </p><p> </p><p> Bulldog to be the youngest ever WWF World Heavyweight champion</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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