WCW: Heart and Soul

KnowYourEnemy · December 13, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Satyr24" data-cite="Satyr24" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Was in ECW, TNA didn't do much but team with Simon Diamond Bill Is still under Turners Contract and won't wrestler till it expires like he did in RL Booker T has a injured shoulder not sure how he got it though</div></blockquote> That injury is going to be huge for TFC -- how do book around not having your world champion and top guy on reboot nitro?

Satyr24 · December 13, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That injury is going to be huge for TFC -- how do book around not having your world champion and top guy on reboot nitro?</div></blockquote> Im pretty sure he can still be used for angles and the injury isn't that long that tfc needs to worry about it Wheres Tony Schiavone didnt see him on the announce team Also bring back Berlyn <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

The Final Countdown · December 14, 2016

May 2001: Road to The Big Bang Our grand relaunch was a go. Not only did we have our big return to television on April 30th, but the first PPV under my ownership, The Big Bang, was locked in for thirteen days later. All in all, I thought we were as prepared as we could be for our reopening. There was just one problem. The World Heavyweight Champion was injured. Booker T beat Scott Steiner on the final Nitro under Turner to win the World Heavyweight title but hurt his shoulder in the process. Our medical staff assured me that it was not an injury that would require surgery, but he still needed some time to recuperate. I was hopeful that he'd be okay to go by the time we relaunched, but days before the first Nitro our doctors estimated he would still be out for another month or so. This left me in a dilemma: did I keep Booker as champion and go without a world title match on our first PPV, or vacate the title and use the Big Bang to crown a new champion? I ultimately decided to keep Booker as champion once our doctors assured me he'd be ready to go in plenty of time for our second PPV, the Great American Bash. In the meantime former champion Scott Steiner got to continue the feud by insisting that Booker was faking the injury just so he could get out of the rematch he was owed. When Arn Anderson was appointed as our new commissioner on the May 7th Nitro, Steiner confronted him and demanded that Booker T be stripped of the title so it could be given to the rightful champion. Hugh Morrus and Konnan came to Double A's defense, setting off a brawl with the Steiners that led us to a tag team match at The Big Bang. Even if Booker hadn't been hurt, I was still going to have him vacate the United States title. Much of our first two Nitros were dedicated to the first two rounds of an eight man tournament to crown a new champion. Rey Misterio Jr. and Lance Storm found their way into the finals, and I think the two of them should put on a great match at Big Bang. We also used the tournament to set up another PPV match, as Shane Douglas complained of an alleged fast count in his first round loss to Dustin Rhodes, then turned around the next week and cost Rhodes his Semifinal match with Storm. Chavo Guerrero Jr. felt he deserved one more shot at Shane Helms's Cruiserweight title, and after beating Billy Kidman on May 7th he'll get that shot. At the last PPV of the Turner era, Chuck Palumbo and Sean O'Haire squashed Totally Buffed in under a minute. I used that as fodder for a story here, as Luger and Bagwell were embarrassed and attacked the Thrillers following a successful title defense on the first Nitro. They look to erase the embarrassment in a return title match on the PPV. DDP was thrilled about the new era of WCW, but one man who wasn't happy to see HIM there was Kanyon. Kanyon called DDP a relic of the past, someone who belonged to the previous era and should have stayed there. He'll try to prove DDP's time is past at the Big Bang, but one Diamond Cutter could spell differently. We haven't built this match at all, but Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay will also be on the card. Hopefully the action will make up for the lack of hype. Oh, and there's also a little match involving a couple of guys named Sting and Ric Flair. Sting was out to close the first Nitro, thanking the fans for always believing in WCW and promising that we'd be better than ever, but Flair had other ideas. He said he couldn't stand the thought that the last Nitro of the Turner era ended with him being defeated by Sting. He'd heard people call Sting the icon, the franchise player of WCW, and it made him sick. There was only one franchise of WCW, and his name was Ric Flair! That was how we got to the most star-studded match on the PPV. I initially envisioned it as the main event of the Big Bang in lieu of a world title match, but the quality of matches both Misterio and Storm produced on the first two Nitros has me considering putting them in the feature bout instead. That truly would ring in a new era, one based more on your ability in the ring than your name value. I'll probably continue to mull over this decision until right before showtime. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/C7WWlCZ.jpg April 30th, 2001 From Knott Arena in Emmitsburg, Maryland Attendance: 2,856 Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart</div> Tenay and I welcome everyone to the new era of WCW, announce a tournament for the vacant United States title beginning tonight. © Scott Steiner says Booker is faking an injury because he's afraid to give him his rematch; WCW should hand him the title. Booker: "I can't wait to heal up so I can shut your mouth, sucka!" (A) US Title Tournament, Opening Round: Lance Storm outwrestles the larger Bam Bam Bigelow. (B-) Konnan/Hugh Morrus vignette; call themselves the leaders of the locker room. © US Title Tournament, Opening Round: Despite some prolonged dominance from Shane Douglas, Dustin Rhodes pins him with a quick cradle. (B-) Chavo Guerrero interview: "I deserve one more rematch with Shane Helms!" (D) Shane Douglas complains of a fast count to Mean Gene, says he should be competing in the tournament semifinals next week. (D+) World Tag Team Championship: The Natural Born Thrillers retain over Mark Jindrak and Shawn Stasiak (w/Stacy Keibler.) © Keibler gives Stasiak the cold shoulder after the match. (C+) Victorious O'Haire and Palumbo are attacked from behind and laid out by Totally Buffed. © US Title Tournament, Opening Round: In a battle of world-travelled veterans, Fit Finlay advanced over Norman Smiley. (B-) DDP tells Mean Gene he's excited for the new era of WCW; Kanyon interrupts, says DDP belongs in the past and should have stayed there. (C+) Ernest Miller (w/Miss Jones) may think he's the greatest, but he was no match for the power of Mike Awesome in the ring tonight. (C+) Jeff Jarrett calls the intelligence of the new management into question: "Why am I not in the US title tournament? Why am I not in the main event of this show, where I belong?" © US Title Tournament, Opening Round: He gave up plenty of size, but that didn't stop Rey Misterio Jr. from soaring past Rick Steiner into the Semifinal round. (B) Sting thanks the fans for showing up, promises WCW will be better than ever; Ric Flair comes out uninvited, says that his loss in final match of the Turner era is eating him up. He wants to prove he's the true icon of WCW by beating Sting at The Big Bang! (A) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B+ </div></div></blockquote> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/C7WWlCZ.jpg May 7th, 2001 From the Levien Gymnasium in New York City Attendance: 3,092 Announce Team: "The Professor" Mike Tenay and Bret "The Hitman" Hart </div> Arn Anderson introduced as new WCW Commissioner; he promises to lay down the law just like he did for all those years as the Enforcer. © Billy Kidman had a chance to earn a Cruiserweight title match with the champ himself watching from the announce table, but Chavo Guerrero Jr. cradled him after a missed Shooting Star Press to secure one more shot at Shane Helms. (C+) Bobby Heenan interviews Natural Born Thrillers: "We'll dominate Totally Buffed at The Big Bang just like we did at Greed!" © Mike Awesome demolished Tito Santana in a one-sided match. (C-) Jeff Jarrett barges into Arn's office: "Give me a match at The Big Bang, or else!" (C+) Shawn Stasiak did his best to impress Stacy Keibler, but he was forced to submit by Norman Smiley. (C-) A disgusted Keibler tells Stasiak she doesn't waste her time on losers, walks away despite his pleas. (D+) Diamond Dallas Page made quick work of Johnny Swinger with the Diamond Cutter. (C-) Kanyon interrupts DDP's celebration: "Your time is over, and I'll prove it at The Big Bang!" (B) US Title Tournament, Semifinal Round: In a battle between the aerial artistry of Rey Misterio Jr. and the ground and pound of Fit Finlay, it was Rey who soared to victory with a Springboard Hurricanrana. (B) With brother Rick in tow, Scott Steiner berates Arn Anderson and demands he be given the world title since Booker T's too scared to fight him; Hugh Morrus and Konnan intervene, leading to a brawl between the teams. (B-) US Title Tournament, Semifinal Round: We will unfortunately never know who should have won between Dustin Rhodes and Lance Storm, because a vengeful Shane Douglas interfered when the ref's back was turned and handed the win to Storm. (B) Booker T pre-taped promo, says he'll be at The Big Bang to present the belt to the new United States Champion. (B+) Alex Wright was game, but one mistimed move was all it took for Ric Flair to trap him in the Figure Four for the submission. (C+) Flair on the microphone after the match: "I'm the icon of WCW, Sting!" Sting steps out into the aisle: "Beating you up is my favorite pastime, Nature Boy, and I'll be happy to do it one more time!" (B+) <div style="text-align:center;">Show Grade: B- </div></div></blockquote>

The Final Countdown · December 14, 2016

((Make sure to read the post right above this one; I've posted the TV summary and prediction key back to back. This is probably how I'll continue to do it going forward.)) <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;">http://i.imgur.com/OxMOCy0.jpg</div> Fan Scorecard: United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©} Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©} Sting vs. Ric Flair Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay What will be match of the night? There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) </div></blockquote> <hr noshade size=3> So after going in and writing the in character summary of the storylines just now, I'm wondering whether it's even necessary. Should I continue to write those in the future, or would the TV results suffice? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MisterRomanini" data-cite="MisterRomanini" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>http://33.media.tumblr.com/dfe84411af88b7ba439a6488ae3f62a7/tumblr_ndrr0chlAe1saykaxo1_400.gif It's happening.</div></blockquote> The look on JBL's face is hilarious. "What the hell's he so excited about, Maggle?" <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Anderz" data-cite="Anderz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/Anderz_Baz/WWF97/bretscrewedbret_zps911539cd.png</div></blockquote> I briefly considered titling the thread "Vince Screwed Vince", but it seemed a little gimmicky. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm looking forward to this quite a bit --- that being said, I'm going to be mildly disappointed if there aren't some callbacks to Stampede in your write-ups. Not sure at this point who's still kicking from the old guard and who's already debuted from the new guard. I'm fairly certain Teddy is active at this point. Not sure who else is out there.</div></blockquote> I was both too young and didn't have access to Stampede, so I'm not sure how well I'll be able to do that. I will say that I'm making an effort to sign people that I think Bret would logically target. All of his remaining brothers only work in Canada and thus aren't available for me to sign, but if you think there's someone out there with an obvious connection that I can bring in, let me know. Teddy had slipped my mind until I read this, so thanks for that. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="2Sweet" data-cite="2Sweet" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was excited, on the inside and out, when I seen that you commented. I like the way you're going through with focusing more on the talent than the pop. And I also like the way you'll be presenting your shows, seems more easier for the writer and the reader. Looking forward to it! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> It was definitely much easier to put together than I'm used to! I think one added benefit to this style is that I'll be able to progress more quickly. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Johnny Swinger moonpush or we riot. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> ...If you say so. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eldandythedoubter" data-cite="eldandythedoubter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>OH GOD, YOU'VE RETURNED!!!! And as much as I shouldn't, I'm gonna be comparing this to WCW Empire. Please prove me wrong to doubt.</div></blockquote> Who are you to doubt, eldandy? (I swear you lobbed that one to me on purpose.) I either wasn't aware of or had forgotten about Empire until I searched for it after reading your post, so any similarities are coincidental. (I'm assuming you're talking about the work of Bigpapa42.) <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Oh that hidden gem list is insane! There is already 3 (possibly 4) future main eventers right there!</div></blockquote> Yeah, I know none of us can wait for the world title push of Nova. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> This is going to be great though the top of your card is a lot of no wrestling ability all pop/charisma so the match grades may be a little poor starting off. I'd be signing 4 of the 5 off your Hidden Gems list right away (Anderson is typically a wretched personality so given that locker room, probably not worth it). And I agree that Flair and Sting really shouldn't be on this list unless they're right at the start. Duggan and Luger though should be way, way, way over the hill. DDP is probably at the right spot as he's old as hell at this point (mid-40's). Upper Mids look good though. Can't wait to see how soon you send Ol' Slap Nuts JJ out of here.</div></blockquote> That's exactly why I'm so strongly considering putting Rey and Lance in the main event. They never in a million years would've headlined over Sting and Flair in actual WCW, but based on my product maybe they should here. It also really would feel like a seismic shift away from the old way of doing things. I've already targeted and signed at least one guy off of the original Hidden Gems list, but not all 5 (or 4 out of 5.) I'll leave it to you to speculate for now. Ric is very deep into decline. In this universe he's been in decline since 1992 and has been in terminal decline for years, so I'm not sure how long I'll have him for. Luger's the only other one in terminal at this point. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Held off commenting to let you finish the introduction, but I'm hooked already. (Though I guess "Hart and Soul" was a little too on the nose, huh?) The monthly write-up instead of weekly shows was actually something I was also considering for my game. I just couldn't get the formatting done the way I wanted. So don't be surprised if I steal some of it from you LOL 1. So Bret's totally hands-off on the day-to-day stuff? He's not an agent or anything? </div></blockquote> Yeah, I thought Heart and Soul was better. The connection is still obvious without the title being TOO centered on Bret, if that makes sense. You're more than welcome to steal anything you want from me. I've probably stolen more from you than from anybody else format-wise in the past, so I figure I owe you one! As you'll have already seen in the show write-up by now, Bret's on the announce team with Tenay. Satyr got to pick the commish as a TGAAB prediction prize and he chose Double A, so Bret was either going to be a color guy or a road agent. He apparently was the best option in the company for color commentator (even moreso than Heenan, somehow), and I've got Dusty for road agent, so I was set. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Satyr24" data-cite="Satyr24" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Wheres Tony Schiavone didnt see him on the announce team</div></blockquote> Tenay is better and I'd like to stick with a two man team so I can sub in guest commentators without fuss, so I shipped Tony down to developmental. He's not exactly happy about it, but that's just too bad.

The_CoC · December 14, 2016

Fan Scorecard:

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting vs Ric Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) Jerry Lawler and Rob Van Dam

Warhawk8492 · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Rey Vs Storm

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) Samoa Joe and RVD

Uncrewed · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night?- Sting/Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)- CM Punk & Rob Van Dam

michgcs · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

Can see either guy taking it but Misterio would work much better as the chaser

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

I can see a new guy debuting to help Flair win it

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Probably where the other new guy/girl debuts

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

There's nothing funny about this match

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night?

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)

CM Punk? Probably not... Let's say TJ Wilson and RVD

jscotty · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting/Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) CM Punk and RVD

deanohbk · December 14, 2016

Storm

Natural Born Thrillers

Helms

Sting

DDP

Douglas

Steiners

Wright

Sting v Flair

John Cena & CM Punk

Satyr24 · December 14, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Tenay is better and I'd like to stick with a two man team so I can sub in guest commentators without fuss, so I shipped Tony down to developmental. He's not exactly happy about it, but that's just too bad.</div></blockquote> That sucks always Preferred Tony over Mike United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©} Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©} Sting vs. Ric Flair Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay What will be match of the night? Rey vs Lance There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) CM Punk & RVD

smw88 · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting/Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) CM Punk and John Cena

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StarshipAwsome · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Rey vs. Lance

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) Steve Corino & Christopher Daniels

The_Monk · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms{©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair - draw

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting vs Ric Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) CM Punk Steve Corino

Dead_Jester · December 14, 2016

Excited to see you back TFC

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting vs. Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. RVD and Steve Corino (1 point each)

KnowYourEnemy · December 14, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I will say that I'm making an effort to sign people that I think Bret would logically target. All of his remaining brothers only work in Canada and thus aren't available for me to sign, but if you think there's someone out there with an obvious connection that I can bring in, let me know. Teddy had slipped my mind until I read this, so thanks for that. </div></blockquote> Tiger Ali Singh and TJ Wilson [should] both be active at this point. Wilson was one of the last Hart Dungeon graduates -- he often wrestled with and sometimes as a Hart. Gama Singh was a major Stampede Heel who hailed from India. Indian Wrestler Tiger Ali Singh has no direct connection -- his father wrestled in Canada (Toronto) with a similar gimmick around the same time. Jinder Mahal and David Hart Smith (Davey Boy Jr.) will probably debut in the next two years. David Hart is British Bulldog's son. Jinder Mahal is Gama Singh's nephew. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I was both too young and didn't have access to Stampede, so I'm not sure how well I'll be able to do that. </div></blockquote> I thought this when I wanted to start an SMW diary, but found that several people uploaded old episodes and clips online, giving me a lot of material to work with. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6e_hofDmYgegf3_tHJMm0g/videos" rel="external nofollow">This channel </a>uploaded several full episodes from the late eighties. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNlHekzcdePco4aKxHiP29w" rel="external nofollow">Rassle Reel</a> started uploaded episodes recently, there are only a few up now. There is an <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/videoseries?list=PLXcKvmm2Y8CMUh2V7jB39vo4_A0gyaJsU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></div></div>with matches. Also, Lance Storm and Jim Cornette did a "Back to the Territories" interview on Calgary -- the full thing costs ~$15, but there is a preview and [probably] a few excerpts on Youtube. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I've already targeted and signed at least one guy off of the original Hidden Gems list, but not all 5 (or 4 out of 5.) I'll leave it to you to speculate for now. </div></blockquote> I'm definitely pleased that you haven't gone the easy route and pushed all the "obvious guys" to the moon. Some of these guys probably start with "Excellent" potential (Cena comes to mind) and can become "unrealistically" good early on. I love to see writers create stars that weren't "big names" in real life. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's exactly why I'm so strongly considering putting Rey and Lance in the main event. They never in a million years would've headlined over Sting and Flair in actual WCW, but based on my product maybe they should here. It also really would feel like a seismic shift away from the old way of doing things.</div></blockquote> I had Rey Mysterio as my figurehead when I "wrote" my plan for a WCW Reboot [i sent it to a wrestling site that was looking for columnists, never heard back], He's got terrific star quality and great in-ring skills --he could easily be your figurehead if things break right. Good to see him getting some love.

KnowYourEnemy · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Mysterio Jr./ Storm

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)

Teddy Hart & Steve Corino

2Sweet · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting/Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) CM Punk & Steve Corino

Rainmaker · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night? Sting/Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each) RVD & Samoa Joe

SomeLazyMagic · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night?

Rey vs Lance

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)

RVD and Steve Corino

angeldelayette · December 14, 2016

It's great to see you back here, TFC. Looking forward to seeing how WCW does for you. Could Stacy Keibler have a new man at this pay-per-view? Also, a reason that Goldberg is not on the new WCW roster: would you want a man on the roster who ended your career?

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

This is a true pick-em match as both of these men have put on great matches so far. My selection of Lance Storm is based on wanting to see him change the U.S. title to the Canadian title.

World Tag Team Championship: Totally Buffed vs. Natural Born Thrillers {©}

I think Bret Hart will look more fondly on the Natural Born Thrillers than on Totally Buffed.

Cruiserweight Championship: Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Shane Helms {©}

Both men could be good champions. Chavo Jr. having the belt might eventually draw Eddie Guerrero back into the fold.

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Because I can't pick against my favorite of all-time. Plus I think Booker is going to keep the belt for the foreseeable future making Flair a good opponent for him.

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Who betta than Kanyon? The Diamond Cutter! BANG!

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Rhodes beat Douglas on the first Nitro so The Franchise evens things up here.

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

My favorite tag team of all time.

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

Wright was in a main event match with Flair.

What will be match of the night? United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs.Lance Storm It ranks just higher than the Sting/Flair match because of the Time Decline.

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)

Rob Van Dam He will be a great one in this new Bret Hart-run WCW.

CM Punk His only addiction is competition.

evileddie10 · December 14, 2016

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

Sting vs. Ric Flair

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

What will be match of the night?

Sting/Flair

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)

CM Punk and Rob Van Dam

Bigpapa42 · December 14, 2016

An awesome writer taking on one of my favorite companies in my favorite points in time? Fantastic. Sad that I didn't see it sooner but I don't venture into this area often enough anymore. Even had my name randomly pop up lol. I'll definitely be reading, TFC. Already enjoying it.

Cro Cop Rules · December 14, 2016

I absolutely love this idea for a diary! Considering that Bret Hart is one of my personal all-time favorites, and taking into account his opinionated stances on today's wrestling, I've often wondered how a promotion run by Bret would look. (He did have the book for Stampede during parts of the late 70s/early 80s, but wrestling has changed so much since then.)

You bring in extremely high standards as a result of your ROH thread and the Golden Age, and I am sure you will meet them. Very excited to be following!

Fan Scorecard:

United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm

It could go either way, but most of your champions are face, so a heel winning would change things up.

No doubt here, Lex and Buff aren't good enough in the ring, and NBT have potential.

This is a toss-up.

Sting vs. Ric Flair

I was considering going with Flair, but since he is on terminal time decline, and considering the real life beef between Bret and Ric, I have to go with the Stinger here.

Diamond Dallas Page vs. Kanyon

Another toss-up, but poor Kanyon was underrated his entire career.

Dustin Rhodes vs. Shane Douglas

Franchise evens the score.

Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers

KEEP BIG POPPA PUMP STRONG

Alex Wright vs. Fit Finlay

Finlay seems to have gotten good match ratings so far.

What will be match of the night?

Would have picked Sting vs. Flair, but due to time decline on Flair's part, I will say Storm vs. Rey will edge them out.

There will be two new signings making their first appearances on this show. Name them. (1 point each)

Steve Corino can come in as a good mid card heel, and Rob Van Dam would be a heck of a debut as well.

The Final Countdown · December 14, 2016

May 2001: Pre-Big Bang News and Notes With the TV and PPV deals in place, I was able to focus on negotiations with new talent. My top target was Curt Hennig, who is not only a close friend of mine but is also exactly the kind of wrestler I'd like to feature in my WCW. If he were ten years younger he'd be a prime candidate to build the company around. I thought we made him a great offer, but he chose to sign with Vince instead. I was obviously disappointed, but I wished Curt well in his WWF return. I think he's going to wind up regretting his choice though, because I don't see Vince featuring him anywhere near as much as I would have. He would've been a main event player here, but there's probably at least 6-10 guys higher on the food chain in the WWF. Missing out on Curt was too bad, but we made several acquisitions that should really help us out in the future. The majority of my new signings were sent to our friends at NWA: Wildside for further training and seasoning. In brief: -My nephew Teddy Hart, the son of my sister Georgia. Ted's very talented and could be a big part of our cruiserweight division in the future, but I'm concerned by his attitude. -Bryan Danielson. He might have been trained by my "old buddy" Shawn Michaels, but Danielson's style is closer to mine. He's only 19 and is already a very good technician. -Christopher Daniels. Daniels, an 8-year pro, is a little bit older than most of my developmental signings, but he should still have plenty of time to be an impact player on our roster. He had a cup of coffee in the later days of the original WCW. -Alexis Laree and Cheerleader Melissa, a pair of young women who show some promise in the ring. Eventually I'd like to present a women's division in WCW, one where the women will actually be treated with respect rather than going out there and stripping down to their underwear. Signing these two and letting them develop is the first step towards that eventual goal. Another probable signing still pending as of The Big Bang is my friend from my WWF days, Tammy "Sunny" Sytch. I had her in mind as someone to bring in eventually, but I was forced to act now because both AAA and CMLL in Mexico came to her with written contract offers. She's still mulling it over, but I'm confident she'll sign with us. If she does I'll probably bring in Chris Candido as well. Bam Bam Bigelow was clearly wrestling under the influence during his match with Lance Storm on the April 30th Nitro. Storm fortunately escaped unscathed, but I could not allow this to go unpunished. I suspended Bam Bam for one month and let him know that if it happens again, he'll be gone. He wasn't pleased with my response and neither was his friend Shane Douglas, but it had to be done. It would be a shame to lose Bam Bam, who is quite athletic for a big guy and was someone I always enjoyed wrestling, but there's no place in this company for someone who shows up to work impaired. One of Eric Bischoff's few good ideas was maintaining a close working relationship with New Japan Pro Wrestling. That relationship was allowed to dissolve thanks to the braindead leadership of Vince Russo, but Antonio Inoki and I have agreed to resume working together. Being able to bring in the talented wrestlers of NJPW for a show here and there is nothing but a positive for us. Vince didn't stop at signing Curt. I must've scared him, because he's signed a ton of new (or should I say old) wrestlers over the past weeks. Listing them off, there's Marty Jannetty, Tommy Dreamer, Jake Roberts, Barry Windham, Mabel, Leatherface, Don Harris, Thrasher, Samu, Greg Valentine, Luke and Butch of the Bushwhackers, and Rocco Rock. The best guys on that list are years past their prime, but it's no sweat off my back if Vince wants to get geriatric. Vince's latest non-wrestling project, the XFL, has officially closed up shop. First the WBF and ICOPRO (I still shudder when I think about those "You Gotta Want it!" ads I was forced to take part in), then a miserable failure of a football league. For a supposed genius, Vince sure does have quite a few massive flops to his credit. Booker T broke up with his girlfriend, former WCW valet Sharmell, but he assures me he won't let it affect his work or his rehabilitation of his shoulder. Evan Karagias and Fit Finlay seemed to be getting along quite well backstage at the last Nitro. I'm sure Russo would've responded by putting Fit in 3 Count if he were still in charge. Scott Steiner isn't very impressed with Lash Leroux. He approached me after Nitro on May 7th and said the kid has no value and should be fired as soon as possible. <hr noshade size=3> <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KnowYourEnemy" data-cite="KnowYourEnemy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Tiger Ali Singh and TJ Wilson [should] both be active at this point. Wilson was one of the last Hart Dungeon graduates -- he often wrestled with and sometimes as a Hart. Gama Singh was a major Stampede Heel who hailed from India. Indian Wrestler Tiger Ali Singh has no direct connection -- his father wrestled in Canada (Toronto) with a similar gimmick around the same time. Jinder Mahal and David Hart Smith (Davey Boy Jr.) will probably debut in the next two years. David Hart is British Bulldog's son. Jinder Mahal is Gama Singh's nephew.</div></blockquote> TJ and Harry are guys I definitely plan on signing as soon as they debut, both because of the connection and because they should hopefully develop into good workers. Both of them are set to debut in 2002. I'm familiar with the name Gama Singh but didn't know Jinder was related. That's something to consider. In the process of answering this I realized that Nattie has already debuted, so I just now offered her a developmental deal. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm definitely pleased that you haven't gone the easy route and pushed all the "obvious guys" to the moon. Some of these guys probably start with "Excellent" potential (Cena comes to mind) and can become "unrealistically" good early on.</div></blockquote> Part of my thinking is that I'd like there to be some kind of logic behind my signings. Without the obvious connection of being a second generation wrestler, being notable before entering wrestling (think Brock or Angle) or having ties to or being trained by someone that would be in a position to make a recommendation to Bret, it's hard to justify signing someone before they've done much on the indy scene to get their name out there. I may be overthinking this a bit, but overthinking is kind of my thing. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I had Rey Mysterio as my figurehead when I "wrote" my plan for a WCW Reboot [i sent it to a wrestling site that was looking for columnists, never heard back], He's got terrific star quality and great in-ring skills --he could easily be your figurehead if things break right. Good to see him getting some love.</div></blockquote> I kind of doubt Rey's in-game charisma and star quality will ever be high enough to make him a viable figurehead, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to thrive, especially with my modified product. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="angeldelayette" data-cite="angeldelayette" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's great to see you back here, TFC. Looking forward to seeing how WCW does for you. Could Stacy Keibler have a new man at this pay-per-view? Also, a reason that Goldberg is not on the new WCW roster: would you want a man on the roster who ended your career?</div></blockquote> Whether or not Keibler has a replacement lined up, I think it's safe to say she's done with poor Meat. Yeah, the mod has him unemployed (and unavailable entirely to simulate the Turner contract), but that would be a valid reason not to use him regardless. In fairness though, I seem to remember a quote from Bret where he said it was a shame that it happened to be someone as "good-hearted" as Bill who ended his career, so maybe he doesn't hold it against him TOO much? <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>United States Heavyweight Championship Tournament Finals: Rey Misterio Jr. vs. Lance Storm This is a true pick-em match as both of these men have put on great matches so far. My selection of Lance Storm is based on wanting to see him change the U.S. title to the Canadian title.</div></blockquote> Good thing the Hardcore title isn't still around. We definitely don't need the return of the Saskatchewan Hardcore Invitational title, or whatever Russoriffic name it was given. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hugh Morrus and Konnan vs. The Steiner Brothers My favorite tag team of all time. </div></blockquote> They rank very highly for me too. Early 90's Steiners were so fantastic. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>An awesome writer taking on one of my favorite companies in my favorite points in time? Fantastic. Sad that I didn't see it sooner but I don't venture into this area often enough anymore. Even had my name randomly pop up lol. I'll definitely be reading, TFC. Already enjoying it.</div></blockquote> Hey, good to hear from ya! Odd that I had no recollection of Empire, because I definitely remember enjoying your work back in the day, and something like that would've been right up my alley. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Cro Cop Rules" data-cite="Cro Cop Rules" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="43035" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I absolutely love this idea for a diary! Considering that Bret Hart is one of my personal all-time favorites, and taking into account his opinionated stances on today's wrestling, I've often wondered how a promotion run by Bret would look. (He did have the book for Stampede during parts of the late 70s/early 80s, but wrestling has changed so much since then.) You bring in extremely high standards as a result of your ROH thread and the Golden Age, and I am sure you will meet them. Very excited to be following!</div></blockquote> Trying to book like I imagine Bret might is likely going to be the biggest challenge for me. But a fun challenge, and I imagine his view coincides with my own in many ways. Thanks for the kind words. I'm enjoying this so far!

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