Olback Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Ok so i am a bit confused as to why you would want to run a show in certain states? E.g in America there are 50 states but some of them (Nevada, California) have much higher lucrative figures then other states. Why would you want to run in other states? Wouldn't you rather just run shows in places with the highest lucrative figure over and over again. Is there a penalty for running a show in the same state/location over and over again? If not why would you want to move to other regions in US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <p>I believe there is a repetition penalty as there is one in TEW, but I never noticed it financially apart from the slight attendance drop. </p><p> </p><p> I generally give preference to states one of the featuring fighters would call home (for immersion's sake), and otherwise I cycle through the lucrative states.</p><p> </p><p> But I don't think it makes that much difference, and it shouldn't as this isn't really a company sim (more a fighting/booking sim). I wouldn't waste my time finetuning it to maximize your profits, but there's probably an ideal way to cycle.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>I believe there is a repetition penalty as there is one in TEW, but I never noticed it financially apart from the slight attendance drop. </strong><p> </p><p> I generally give preference to states one of the featuring fighters would call home (for immersion's sake), and otherwise I cycle through the lucrative states.</p><p> </p><p> But I don't think it makes that much difference, and it shouldn't as this isn't really a company sim (more a fighting/booking sim). I wouldn't waste my time finetuning it to maximize your profits, but there's probably an ideal way to cycle.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is that confirmed anywhere? I would assume it would have been mentioned somewhere in the game. I haven’t noticed any penalties from running in the same region repeatedly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Not that I know of. The thing is that it's not exactly pro wrestling, with their busier bi-weekly schedule and, you know, non-sport status. So imo it shouldn't apply, given ManU seems to do fine at the same venue. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmatos01 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <p>It is important to have a field to filter the fighter's nationality when creating the event. In this way, we can hold events like USA x BR ..</p><p> </p><p> Home Grown has been implemented, however it is very different from nationality.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker666 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Olback" data-cite="Olback" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ok so i am a bit confused as to why you would want to run a show in certain states?<p> </p><p> E.g in America there are 50 states but some of them (Nevada, California) have much higher lucrative figures then other states.</p><p> </p><p> Why would you want to run in other states? Wouldn't you rather just run shows in places with the highest lucrative figure over and over again. Is there a penalty for running a show in the same state/location over and over again?</p><p> </p><p> If not why would you want to move to other regions in US?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd have to check, but aren't there some areas in the U.S. which are unregulated still? If so then you could run some brutal fights in those areas with some of your fighters who might be "on the juice" so they wont get spanked by an Athletic Commission. (you'd have to change your own company drug testing rules during that period to make sure they still wouldn't get suspended though)</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SirMichaelJordan" data-cite="SirMichaelJordan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is that confirmed anywhere? I would assume it would have been mentioned somewhere in the game. I haven’t noticed any penalties from running in the same region repeatedly.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure if it's been confirmed, but it would make sense. Any city running a massive ppv every month would surely get burnt out, as the majority of punters would likely be locals who wouldn't want to fork out cash on a regular basis!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Undertaker666" data-cite="Undertaker666" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd have to check, but aren't there some areas in the U.S. which are unregulated still? If so then you could run some brutal fights in those areas with some of your fighters who might be "on the juice" so they wont get spanked by an Athletic Commission. (you'd have to change your own company drug testing rules during that period to make sure they still wouldn't get suspended though)<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Not sure if it's been confirmed, but it would make sense. Any city running a massive ppv every month would surely get burnt out, as the majority of punters would likely be locals who wouldn't want to fork out cash on a regular basis!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Unregulated/Regulated and lucrative level seems to be the only factors which isn’t enough IMO. I don’t really think a overexposure penalty should be a thing because you could technically be running in different cities in the same state. I suggested some things in the suggestion forums about potential penalty/bonus/risk/reward when picking regions.</p><p> </p><p> Outside of those factors, running shows in some of your fighter’s hometowns could be something to shoot for...But as it stands, I dont see any reason NOT to have all of your events in the state of Nevada.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker666 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SirMichaelJordan" data-cite="SirMichaelJordan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Unregulated/Regulated and lucrative level seems to be the only factors which isn’t enough IMO. I don’t really think a overexposure penalty should be a thing because you could technically be running in different cities in the same state. I suggested some things in the suggestion forums about potential penalty/bonus/risk/reward when picking regions.<p> </p><p> Outside of those factors, running shows in some of your fighter’s hometowns could be something to shoot for...But as it stands, I dont see any reason NOT to have all of your events in the state of Nevada.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Good points, to an extent, but you have to understand from a design/production perspective that it would take a long time to put in every city just in the U.S. areas, let alone Canada, South America, Asia and so on. It would take even longer to make sure that every character had their own hometown taken into account.</p><p> </p><p> If you take the British Isles for example, England is about the size of Pennsylvania (lol) and in-game it's split into London (a city), Midlands (an area) and North of England (an area). While there are multiple cities in those areas, generally there are only going to be larger cities which host such events. If you look at UFC or WWE, they usually hold events in Newcastle (North of England), Manchester (North of England), Birmingham (Midlands) and London.</p><p> </p><p> I could well be wrong, but i'd assume that this is the case.</p><p> </p><p> ------------------</p><p> </p><p> With regards to the original post, the more popular you are in an area, then the more expectations there are. So you can run smaller shows with lesser known fighters in South Dakota (for example) than you could in Nevada.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Undertaker666" data-cite="Undertaker666" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good points, to an extent, but you have to understand from a design/production perspective that it would take a long time to put in every city just in the U.S. areas, let alone Canada, South America, Asia and so on. It would take even longer to make sure that every character had their own hometown taken into account.<p> </p><p> If you take the British Isles for example, England is about the size of Pennsylvania (lol) and in-game it's split into London (a city), Midlands (an area) and North of England (an area). While there are multiple cities in those areas, generally there are only going to be larger cities which host such events. If you look at UFC or WWE, they usually hold events in Newcastle (North of England), Manchester (North of England), Birmingham (Midlands) and London.</p><p> </p><p> I could well be wrong, but i'd assume that this is the case.</p><p> </p><p> ------------------</p><p> </p><p> With regards to the original post, the more popular you are in an area, then the more expectations there are. So you can run smaller shows with lesser known fighters in South Dakota (for example) than you could in Nevada.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That’s true, but still the penalty (if exist) doesn’t make sense.</p><p> </p><p> Also, since WMMA4 the last sentences isn’t the case anymore. America popularity is the the same for every state so it creates the same draw.</p><p> </p><p> To expand on the first post, does the date of your event effect anything? What is the difference in running a show on weds rather than Saturday?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigINMoldova Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not that I know of. The thing is that it's not exactly pro wrestling, with their busier bi-weekly schedule and, you know, non-sport status. So imo it shouldn't apply, given ManU seems to do fine at the same venue. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> But Man U also plays away games.</p><p> </p><p> Because of Attendance. Literally no big sport to my knowledge has a team that plays only home games.</p><p> </p><p> The NFL is huge but they do games in London and Mexico city because it's just more lucrative to not hold all of your events in the same region.</p><p> </p><p> Even the World Cup and The Olympics change locations everytime. That's the defining trait of the Olympics really.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undertaker666 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Also, since WMMA4 the last sentences isn’t the case anymore. America popularity is the the same for every state so it creates the same draw. Are you sure? Try and run a card in Nevada and then one in a less lucrative state. You should be able to put people in the main event who wouldn't make the cut in Nevada due to less expectations, despite popularity in that region. But Man U also plays away games. Because of Attendance. Literally no big sport to my knowledge has a team that plays only home games. The NFL is huge but they do games in London and Mexico city because it's just more lucrative to not hold all of your events in the same region. Even the World Cup and The Olympics change locations everytime. That's the defining trait of the Olympics really. Sidenote, I think the Olympics should always be held in Greece (it would certainly help their economy) and the Football World Cup in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Are you sure? Try and run a card in Nevada and then one in a less lucrative state. You should be able to put people in the main event who wouldn't make the cut in Nevada due to less expectations, despite popularity in that region. Sidenote, I think the Olympics should always be held in Greece (it would certainly help their economy) and the Football World Cup in England. Positive, that’s been taken out in WMMA4 and replace in WMMA5 by having lesser and throwaway events now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne28 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I like to run my games a certain way by expanding out to different states who may not have seen a live show yet or if it's been quite a long time. I don't always care about the money part. More of immersion in the game world that matters to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olback Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 <p>Hmm. So if there is no penalty for repetitive booking in an area, shouldn’t you just book in Nevada every show?</p><p> </p><p> Isn’t that a flaw in the game? What is the incentive to move to different areas other then realism?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AQuebman Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Olback" data-cite="Olback" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm. So if there is no penalty for repetitive booking in an area, shouldn’t you just book in Nevada every show?<p> </p><p> Isn’t that a flaw in the game? What is the incentive to move to different areas other then realism?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There isn't one but realism and really getting into that this is my company with all the little details is what draws a lot of people to the game but if you want to game the system stay in Nevada.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Olback" data-cite="Olback" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44733" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hmm. So if there is no penalty for repetitive booking in an area, shouldn’t you just book in Nevada every show?<p> </p><p> Isn’t that a flaw in the game? What is the incentive to move to different areas other then realism?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There needs to be some incentives.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirMichaelJordan Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 <p>I still think running events in high lucrative areas should cost more as services (misc expenses) tend to be high in places where there is alot of money to be made.</p><p> </p><p> I should be in danger of losing some money not gaining money if I book an event that doesnt draw much to make a profit in a place like New York or Nevada.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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