The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

[milamber]

<p>90 minute Moxley interview on the Wade Keller podcast. Free stream/download:</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="https://www.spreaker.com/user/pwtorch/20190601wkpwp-int-mox1" rel="external nofollow">https://www.spreaker.com/user/pwtorch/20190601wkpwp-int-mox1</a></p>

[milamber]

<p>Mox promo for the Janela match at Fyter Fest:</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="https://streamable.com/9zsle" rel="external nofollow">https://streamable.com/9zsle</a></p>

[milamber]

Being The Elite Ep. 156 -

 

Road to Fyter Fest Ep. 2 -

 

Good promos, especially Darby Allin. Yuka Sakazaki vs Riho vs Nyla Rose announced for Fyter Fest.

[Greylocke]

<p>They went and saddled Yuka and Riho with <em>Nyla Rose</em>? Bah!</p><p> </p><p>

They'll likely have to put her over too, since she's the only confirmed full-time roster member out of the 3. Not that I'm against them putting over the full-time roster, but do they really have to feed these 2 to their worst female performer? She's was easily the weakest of the 4 in that DoN match.</p><p> </p><p>

Here's hoping I'm wrong.....</p>

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Greylocke" data-cite="Greylocke" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They went and saddled Yuka and Riho with <em>Nyla Rose</em>? Bah!<p> </p><p> They'll likely have to put her over too, since she's the only confirmed full-time roster member out of the 3. Not that I'm against them putting over the full-time roster, but do they really have to feed these 2 to their worst female performer? She's was easily the weakest of the 4 in that DoN match.</p><p> </p><p> Here's hoping I'm wrong.....</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not usually the voice of patience and virtue, but I think this match will be much better for Nyla who is more of a dominant mat-wrestler type than an Impact Brawler, hard to do that in a 4-way with 2 monster heels. Riho is a selling machine and Yuka can pick the tempo up to keep it from being too slow. Think this match will surprise those that see Nyla as nothing but a gimmick hire. And I think she's owed a showcase match after they stole her heat to get the Kong pop. </p><p> </p><p> Riho and Yuka are on part-timer deals and 2mos ago nobody had ever heard of either. So classic TEW situation when you sign Greg Gauge and can job him out a few times through the door and he'll just get over anyway so what's the harm trying to give a decent opponent the rub?</p>

[milamber]

All Out sold out in 15 minutes. Just over 11,000 capacity at the Sears Center. For reference, All In took 30 minutes to sell out.

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All Out sold out in 15 minutes. Just over 11,000 capacity at the Sears Center. For reference, All In took 30 minutes to sell out.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They really should have booked the United Center. They would have sold it out in an hour.</p>

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Makhai" data-cite="Makhai" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They really should have booked the United Center. They would have sold it out in an hour.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe, but what if it just didn't fully sell out? Right now it's already a gimmick that they "sell out". They might want to ride that wave for a while longer. It makes their product exclusive and you better get tickets for it fast. Where you can pretty much pick up tix for a WWE show whenever you want.</p>

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe, but what if it just didn't fully sell out? Right now it's already a gimmick that they "sell out". They might want to ride that wave for a while longer. It makes their product exclusive and you better get tickets for it fast. Where you can pretty much pick up tix for a WWE show whenever you want.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> People at Ticketmaster said their was demand for 40,000 tickets, the United Center holds about 25,000 for wrestling, all this is doing is goosing aftermarket brokers, and leaving money on the table. You don't want your gimmick to be "idiot company that leaves millions on table". It may sound weird, but in the age of the internet, you need to max out your demand or you'll get scalpers camping your ticket pre-sale and sale dates and buying everything up and reselling at an inflated rate. This has been a huge problem for acts like Adelle who tour rarely and draw very well. Don't work yourself into $10,000 scalped tickets you don't make anything off because you ran a building way too small.</p>

[milamber]

<p>Being the Elite - SCU in China Special

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Being the Elite Ep. 157 -

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Daniels vs Cima added to Fyter Fest. Laredo Kid from AAA & IMPACT will be tagging with The Lucha Bros.</p>

[fullMETAL]

<p>Apparently, Tony Kahn just announced he'll be commissioning Women's Tag Team Championship belts, despite there not being enough people (or at least, enough sensible pairings) on the women's roster (both full-time and part-time) yet to justify them.</p><p> </p><p>

I smell a scouting binge happening soon, and probably a bunch of SHIMMER/SHINE talent bookings.</p>

[Makhai]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="fullMETAL" data-cite="fullMETAL" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Apparently, Tony Kahn just announced he'll be commissioning Women's Tag Team Championship belts, despite there not being enough people (or at least, enough sensible pairings) on the women's roster (both full-time and part-time) yet to justify them.<p> </p><p> I smell a scouting binge happening soon, and probably a bunch of SHIMMER/SHINE talent bookings.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This sends up red flags that he's going the way of Dixie, who used to watch WWE and then try and copy what they were doing. I get that the Joshi match got great feedback, and more than likely is what they intend to do with the tag belts, turn them into a pseudo Joshi division.(Which actually makes a lot of sense if you look back on the most successful Joshi acts of all time. The Crush Gals, The Young Pair, Devils etc. All of the greats pretty much in that era got over as tag teams.)</p><p> </p><p> If this is Kenny's idea, to pay homage to history and get a bunch of girls nobodies heard of over with the US audience, then I'm on board. If this is Tony Khan watching the IIconics trash the Smackdown belts and saying "I can do that better"... FFS.</p>

[The Final Countdown]

Introducing women's tag belts would be a logical step, but I think it'd have been better to wait like a year or so in. That way the singles women's title would already be well established, and hopefully you've been able to set up at least five or six regular women's teams.

[Jaysin]

Tony Khan's quote:

 

“I want to focus on a serious main event picture,” he explained. “Both in the singles and the tag team, and then when we establish the women’s singles — ya know, this may be the first time that it gets announced, but just so you know — eventually we will establish a Women’s Tag Team title and focusing on the Women’s singles and the Women’s Tag Team title.”

 

I don't think we'll be seeing the Women's tag titles anytime soon.

[milamber]

These Road to Fyter Fest videos are great. AEW are making an effort to make everyone on their roster look important.

 

[Greylocke]

And not to be left out, Kenny Omega joined in on juvenile twitter banter! Only to delete it hours later, possibly after Tony Khan told him to (pure conjecture).

 

Anyway, Fyter Fest is clearly a B-level event. It doesn't look like there's going to be much consequences to most of the matches. In the last event, there was a title match, a No. 1 contenders match and a family feud with rich ready-made history. Here almost all the matches feel like exhibition bouts.

 

The only one I really have high expectations for is CIMA vs Daniels. All the other matches contain at least one party that I don't care about (and a few I don't know). Since it'll probably also clash with another wrestling event that I'm more interested in watching live due to timezone issues, I've probably not be watching this one live and try to find a way to catch some of the individual matches on a later date.

[Makhai]

And not to be left out, Kenny Omega joined in on juvenile twitter banter! Only to delete it hours later, possibly after Tony Khan told him to (pure conjecture).

 

Anyway, Fyter Fest is clearly a B-level event. It doesn't look like there's going to be much consequences to most of the matches. In the last event, there was a title match, a No. 1 contenders match and a family feud with rich ready-made history. Here almost all the matches feel like exhibition bouts.

 

The only one I really have high expectations for is CIMA vs Daniels. All the other matches contain at least one party that I don't care about (and a few I don't know). Since it'll probably also clash with another wrestling event that I'm more interested in watching live due to timezone issues, I've probably not be watching this one live and try to find a way to catch some of the individual matches on a later date.

 

Fyter Fest is a joke thing on the concept so I don't know why 2 paragraphs need to be spilled about it. It's mostly to give an excuse for the boys to hang out in the tropics for some R&R, stay busy, but enjoy the summer before they start touring, shoot some stuff for BTE and maybe set up some TV stuff later down the line. This is what a house show is going to probably look like for AEW. Fight For The Fallen seems like a B-show to me. This is some fun wrestling thrown into a sun and fun vacation package.

[milamber]

<p>Fyter Fest is a fun gaming crossover event. Fight for the Fallen is a charity event. Both are free in the US ($10 everywhere else) and a good excuse to the rotate the roster and progress some feuds.</p><p> </p><p>

Kenny's issue was that WWE are streaming an Evolve event (featuring Cole vs Tozawa and Riddle vs Gulak) against Fight for the Fallen. I get his frustration at that but 99% of the time getting defensive or offensive on social media makes you look bad (see Seth Rollins).</p>

[Guest mikep2207]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm man enough to admit it - ever since WCW... went away... I have mourned its loss like a family member. The arrival of AEW kinda feels like a nice big piece of my soul is being given back to me, somehow. It's been ... a while.. since I was so looking forward to something, really happy about this.<p> </p><p> That Rally today was all kinds of fun to watch too. Really enjoyed that. And there are new confirmed signings now as well.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> :D <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes, I totally agree with you the way they have made their roster the way AEW Double or Nothing went hit the way tickets for <a href="https://www.sportskeeda.com/go/aew-fight-for-the-fallen" rel="external nofollow">AEW Fight For The Fallen</a> and AEW All Out were sold clearly shows that AEW is a potential threat to WWE.</p><p> </p><p> Even their show on TNT is somewhat like WCW.</p><p> </p><p> AEW ALL OUT broke the record of WRESTLE MANIA in terms of ticket selling duration.</p>

[Jaysin]

This librarian gimmick is pure garbage. So dumb

[Warhawk8492]

This librarian gimmick is pure garbage. So dumb

 

Low card cheap heat gimmick

[dvdWarrior]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This librarian gimmick is pure garbage. So dumb</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Low card cheap heat gimmick</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Seemed to get a decent enough reaction. Seems awful hokey and gimmicky to me, not really my cup of tea.</p><p> </p><p> Really loved tonight's show overall though.</p>

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="fullMETAL" data-cite="fullMETAL" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Apparently, Tony Kahn just announced he'll be commissioning Women's Tag Team Championship belts, despite there not being enough people (or at least, enough sensible pairings) on the women's roster (both full-time and part-time) yet to justify them.<p> </p><p> I smell a scouting binge happening soon, and probably a bunch of SHIMMER/SHINE talent bookings.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That doesn't make sense. Last time I checked there was barely anything. There's not even a singles belt. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> What is their schedule even? And they should sign Emma, Sasha and other stars. Brandy Rhodes, really?</p>

[milamber]

<p>Good show overall. Didn't hit the highs of Double or Nothing but if this is the minimum quality for a minor crossover show then they are on the right track.</p><p> </p><p>

Tag Team Triple Threat - ****</p><p>

Leva vs Allie - ***</p><p>

Nakazawa vs Jebaily - ***</p><p>

Daniels vs Cima - *** 1/2</p><p>

Riho vs Nyla vs Yuka - *** 3/4</p><p>

MJF vs Jungle Boy vs Havoc vs Page - *** 3/4</p><p>

Darby vs Cody - **** 1/4</p><p>

Laredo Kid & Lucha Bros vs Young Bucks & Omega - **** 1/4</p><p>

Janela vs Mox - **** 1/4</p>

[milamber]

<p>Post-show interviews:</p><p> </p><p>

Tony Khan -

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Young Bucks -

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Nyla Rose -

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MJF -

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Allie & Jungle Boy -

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