lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>how do you know whos mafia day 2 with no info?<p> no lynching provides nothing in our favor, in the end we will have to look at posts and decide whos scum and whos not and decide who to lynch</p><p> </p><p> all nolynching does is waste whoever gets nightkilled</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Day 2 will have info from the townies who have roles. If no one finds scum, the pool of players is much smaller. If no one is lynched and 2 people die, we are down to 16. If there are 4 or 5 power roles who can clear people, it goes down to 11 or 12. Picking from that is much more beneficial than from 18.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Day 2 will have info from the townies who have roles. If no one finds scum, the pool of players is much smaller. If no one is lynched and 2 people die, we are down to 16. If there are 4 or 5 power roles who can clear people, it goes down to 11 or 12. Picking from that is much more beneficial than from 18.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> what do you mean have info from townies who have roles?</p><p> you mean something like cop?</p><p> </p><p> you fear too much the power that is held in a read</p><p> how do you think most vanilla games are won? by relying on prs?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>what do you mean have info from townies who have roles?<p> you mean something like cop?</p><p> </p><p> you fear too much the power that is held in a read</p><p> how do you think most vanilla games are won? by relying on prs?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is how you start to find scum. Voting patterns can be established and read when people are presented with info on who is scum. And I do mean cop.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Day 2 will have info from the townies who have roles. If no one finds scum, the pool of players is much smaller. If no one is lynched and 2 people die, we are down to 16. If there are 4 or 5 power roles who can clear people, it goes down to 11 or 12. Picking from that is much more beneficial than from 18.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> sigh. read setup link. it tells setup. there wont be 4-5 prs. you cant count on roles to find the scum</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emark Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hola all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>sigh. read setup link. it tells setup. there wont be 4-5 prs. you cant count on roles to find the scum</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No matter what, we will have some kind of info. If we don't, we have a smaller pool to pick from. I am willing to put my money on finding a scum role in the night over lynching.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emark Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <p><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: Arrows</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> You must be scum. You have to be scum.</p><p> Even when you're not scum, you might be scum. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That is how you start to find scum. Voting patterns can be established and read when people are presented with info on who is scum. And I do mean cop.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> how do you expect for cop to actually manage to find someone night one</p><p> they arent going to come out with a green check because thatll put them in the mafias crosshairs with zero reason</p><p> </p><p> even with a mislynch we can collect interactions and make vote analysis'</p><p> </p><p> cop may also die at night too</p><p> you are relying on chance here rather than your own actual intuition</p><p> </p><p> ill say it again, you do not know the power that is held in a read</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> you are willing to sit back and just let the prs handle everything? that there is cowardess</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>how do you expect for cop to actually manage to find someone night one<p> they arent going to come out with a green check because thatll put them in the mafias crosshairs with zero reason</p><p> </p><p> even with a mislynch we can collect interactions and make vote analysis'</p><p> </p><p> cop may also die at night too</p><p> you are relying on chance here rather than your own actual intuition</p><p> </p><p> ill say it again, you do not know the power that is held in a read</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> you are willing to sit back and just let the prs handle everything? that there is cowardess</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Night 1 I am willing to let what happens at night happen. The cop should come forward if he got a positive result. That is how mafia is played. If power roles never divulged their info, that would be stupid. I am beginning to think you are scum more and more with every post.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jackofhearts2005 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <p>Gonna agree with MM that Ray’s opening is scummy.</p><p> </p><p> Fella is pretty town looking for that opening. Not even slightly concerned about placing a third joke vote. At the very least, unlikely w/w with Destiny. </p><p> </p><p> Luke’s opening is nai. It’s style/strat or mimicking it. A wolf would still do this if a townie Luke thinks this is actually best town option. </p><p> </p><p> Archer’s entrance depends on his meta. Ask me again EOD1.</p><p> </p><p> MM always makes these same theory discussions regardless of alignment.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Night 1 I am willing to let what happens at night happen. The cop should come forward if he got a positive result. That is how mafia is played. If power roles never divulged their info, that would be stupid. I am beginning to think you are scum more and more with every post.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> im beginning to think you are more incompetent with every post</p><p> </p><p> town shares information, sure, but needlessly outing yourself as a cop will place a target on your back</p><p> </p><p> if you dont have a red check dont reveal, that is plain stupidity</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theelectrickg Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No matter what, we will have some kind of info. If we don't, we have a smaller pool to pick from. I am willing to put my money on finding a scum role in the night over lynching.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Have you read the setup? There's a good chance we won't have a cop.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jackofhearts2005" data-cite="Jackofhearts2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>MM always makes these same theory discussions regardless of alignment.</div></blockquote><p> who are you</p><p> what</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>im beginning to think you are more incompetent with every post<p> </p><p> town shares information, sure, but needlessly outing yourself as a cop will place a target on your back</p><p> </p><p> if you dont have a red check dont reveal, that is plain stupidity</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why wouldn't a role designed to share info do just that? They don't have to come out and say "I'm a cop. X is scum". They would hint that they know a person is scum. From there, you can decide what to do.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jackofhearts2005 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <p>Let’s just leave Luke alone and let them see what happens.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote Rayelek</span></strong></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="theelectrickg" data-cite="theelectrickg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Have you read the setup? There's a good chance we won't have a cop.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Even if we don't get any concrete info, I would feel better picking from a pool of 12 or so than 18. Math is on the side of less=more chance of finding scum.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why wouldn't a role designed to share info do just that? They don't have to come out and say "I'm a cop. X is scum". They would hint that they know a person is scum. From there, you can decide what to do.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> a pr is important, especially to a town with so little of them</p><p> abusing that privilege will get you nowhere</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jackofhearts2005 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>who are you<p> what</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thought you were someone else. My bad.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Even if we don't get any concrete info, I would feel better picking from a pool of 12 or so than 18. Math is on the side of less=more chance of finding scum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> exactly</p><p> so lynching at all narrows down that pool even more</p><p> i hate using math as an excuse but if you want to bring it up, then i will too</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theelectrickg Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Night 1 I am willing to let what happens at night happen. The cop should come forward if he got a positive result. That is how mafia is played. If power roles never divulged their info, that would be stupid. I am beginning to think you are scum more and more with every post.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I hope by positive you mean a red check? There's no need to out yourself otherwise.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>a pr is important, especially to a town with so little of them<p> abusing that privilege will get you nowhere</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why would a role DESIGNED TO REVEAL RESULTS not do their job? That would be downright idiotic play from them. You don't need to out yourself and reveal a result. You can be subtle.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MafiaMenace Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jackofhearts2005" data-cite="Jackofhearts2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thought you were someone else. My bad.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> oh okay</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>exactly<p> so lynching at all narrows down that pool even more</p><p> i hate using math as an excuse but if you want to bring it up, then i will too</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No it wouldn't. You would be lowering the pool by randomly guessing from 18. After a night, the pool to guess has a higher chance of finding scum with the added possibility of catching someone in the act of being nefarious.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theelectrickg Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Even if we don't get any concrete info, I would feel better picking from a pool of 12 or so than 18. Math is on the side of less=more chance of finding scum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am having a hard time following. How are we cutting it down from 18 to 12?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="theelectrickg" data-cite="theelectrickg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hope by positive you mean a red check? There's no need to out yourself otherwise.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean they find a scum if that's what you are saying.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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