GDS Mafia: Barebones 5.0-KE1 brought to you by theoutlaw321

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>how do you know whos mafia day 2 with no info?<p> no lynching provides nothing in our favor, in the end we will have to look at posts and decide whos scum and whos not and decide who to lynch</p><p> </p><p> all nolynching does is waste whoever gets nightkilled</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Day 2 will have info from the townies who have roles. If no one finds scum, the pool of players is much smaller. If no one is lynched and 2 people die, we are down to 16. If there are 4 or 5 power roles who can clear people, it goes down to 11 or 12. Picking from that is much more beneficial than from 18.</p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Day 2 will have info from the townies who have roles. If no one finds scum, the pool of players is much smaller. If no one is lynched and 2 people die, we are down to 16. If there are 4 or 5 power roles who can clear people, it goes down to 11 or 12. Picking from that is much more beneficial than from 18.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> what do you mean have info from townies who have roles?</p><p> you mean something like cop?</p><p> </p><p> you fear too much the power that is held in a read</p><p> how do you think most vanilla games are won? by relying on prs?</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>what do you mean have info from townies who have roles?<p> you mean something like cop?</p><p> </p><p> you fear too much the power that is held in a read</p><p> how do you think most vanilla games are won? by relying on prs?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is how you start to find scum. Voting patterns can be established and read when people are presented with info on who is scum. And I do mean cop.</p>

[The Archer]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Day 2 will have info from the townies who have roles. If no one finds scum, the pool of players is much smaller. If no one is lynched and 2 people die, we are down to 16. If there are 4 or 5 power roles who can clear people, it goes down to 11 or 12. Picking from that is much more beneficial than from 18.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> sigh. read setup link. it tells setup. there wont be 4-5 prs. you cant count on roles to find the scum</p>

[Emark]

Hola all.

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>sigh. read setup link. it tells setup. there wont be 4-5 prs. you cant count on roles to find the scum</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No matter what, we will have some kind of info. If we don't, we have a smaller pool to pick from. I am willing to put my money on finding a scum role in the night over lynching.</p>

[Emark]

<p><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: Arrows</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

You must be scum. You have to be scum.</p><p>

Even when you're not scum, you might be scum. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That is how you start to find scum. Voting patterns can be established and read when people are presented with info on who is scum. And I do mean cop.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> how do you expect for cop to actually manage to find someone night one</p><p> they arent going to come out with a green check because thatll put them in the mafias crosshairs with zero reason</p><p> </p><p> even with a mislynch we can collect interactions and make vote analysis'</p><p> </p><p> cop may also die at night too</p><p> you are relying on chance here rather than your own actual intuition</p><p> </p><p> ill say it again, you do not know the power that is held in a read</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> you are willing to sit back and just let the prs handle everything? that there is cowardess</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>how do you expect for cop to actually manage to find someone night one<p> they arent going to come out with a green check because thatll put them in the mafias crosshairs with zero reason</p><p> </p><p> even with a mislynch we can collect interactions and make vote analysis'</p><p> </p><p> cop may also die at night too</p><p> you are relying on chance here rather than your own actual intuition</p><p> </p><p> ill say it again, you do not know the power that is held in a read</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> you are willing to sit back and just let the prs handle everything? that there is cowardess</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Night 1 I am willing to let what happens at night happen. The cop should come forward if he got a positive result. That is how mafia is played. If power roles never divulged their info, that would be stupid. I am beginning to think you are scum more and more with every post.</p>

[Guest Jackofhearts2005]

<p>Gonna agree with MM that Ray’s opening is scummy.</p><p> </p><p>

Fella is pretty town looking for that opening. Not even slightly concerned about placing a third joke vote. At the very least, unlikely w/w with Destiny. </p><p> </p><p>

Luke’s opening is nai. It’s style/strat or mimicking it. A wolf would still do this if a townie Luke thinks this is actually best town option. </p><p> </p><p>

Archer’s entrance depends on his meta. Ask me again EOD1.</p><p> </p><p>

MM always makes these same theory discussions regardless of alignment.</p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Night 1 I am willing to let what happens at night happen. The cop should come forward if he got a positive result. That is how mafia is played. If power roles never divulged their info, that would be stupid. I am beginning to think you are scum more and more with every post.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> im beginning to think you are more incompetent with every post</p><p> </p><p> town shares information, sure, but needlessly outing yourself as a cop will place a target on your back</p><p> </p><p> if you dont have a red check dont reveal, that is plain stupidity</p>

[theelectrickg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No matter what, we will have some kind of info. If we don't, we have a smaller pool to pick from. I am willing to put my money on finding a scum role in the night over lynching.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Have you read the setup? There's a good chance we won't have a cop.</p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jackofhearts2005" data-cite="Jackofhearts2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>MM always makes these same theory discussions regardless of alignment.</div></blockquote><p> who are you</p><p> what</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>im beginning to think you are more incompetent with every post<p> </p><p> town shares information, sure, but needlessly outing yourself as a cop will place a target on your back</p><p> </p><p> if you dont have a red check dont reveal, that is plain stupidity</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why wouldn't a role designed to share info do just that? They don't have to come out and say "I'm a cop. X is scum". They would hint that they know a person is scum. From there, you can decide what to do.</p>

[Guest Jackofhearts2005]

<p>Let’s just leave Luke alone and let them see what happens.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote Rayelek</span></strong></p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="theelectrickg" data-cite="theelectrickg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Have you read the setup? There's a good chance we won't have a cop.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Even if we don't get any concrete info, I would feel better picking from a pool of 12 or so than 18. Math is on the side of less=more chance of finding scum.</p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why wouldn't a role designed to share info do just that? They don't have to come out and say "I'm a cop. X is scum". They would hint that they know a person is scum. From there, you can decide what to do.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> a pr is important, especially to a town with so little of them</p><p> abusing that privilege will get you nowhere</p>

[Guest Jackofhearts2005]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>who are you<p> what</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thought you were someone else. My bad.</p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Even if we don't get any concrete info, I would feel better picking from a pool of 12 or so than 18. Math is on the side of less=more chance of finding scum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> exactly</p><p> so lynching at all narrows down that pool even more</p><p> i hate using math as an excuse but if you want to bring it up, then i will too</p>

[theelectrickg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Night 1 I am willing to let what happens at night happen. The cop should come forward if he got a positive result. That is how mafia is played. If power roles never divulged their info, that would be stupid. I am beginning to think you are scum more and more with every post.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I hope by positive you mean a red check? There's no need to out yourself otherwise.</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>a pr is important, especially to a town with so little of them<p> abusing that privilege will get you nowhere</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why would a role DESIGNED TO REVEAL RESULTS not do their job? That would be downright idiotic play from them. You don't need to out yourself and reveal a result. You can be subtle.</p>

[Guest MafiaMenace]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jackofhearts2005" data-cite="Jackofhearts2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thought you were someone else. My bad.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> oh okay</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MafiaMenace" data-cite="MafiaMenace" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>exactly<p> so lynching at all narrows down that pool even more</p><p> i hate using math as an excuse but if you want to bring it up, then i will too</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No it wouldn't. You would be lowering the pool by randomly guessing from 18. After a night, the pool to guess has a higher chance of finding scum with the added possibility of catching someone in the act of being nefarious.</p>

[theelectrickg]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lukess11" data-cite="lukess11" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Even if we don't get any concrete info, I would feel better picking from a pool of 12 or so than 18. Math is on the side of less=more chance of finding scum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I am having a hard time following. How are we cutting it down from 18 to 12?</p>

[lukess11]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="theelectrickg" data-cite="theelectrickg" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46306" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hope by positive you mean a red check? There's no need to out yourself otherwise.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean they find a scum if that's what you are saying.</p>