Justice League Mafia (Game 1: Secret Society)

[Eternal Phoenix]

<p><strong>Teh Showtime</strong>-6 (Bluestar, Fella Libby, BHK1978, Leion, Tha Black Phenom, Queen of Gnomes)</p><p>

<strong>Rabbitman</strong>-2 (Memory of Talon)</p><p>

<strong>Bluestar</strong>-1 (panix04, Destiny)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Not Voting:</strong></p><p><strong>

(bak42, FirstToGetThisName, i effin rule, Imarevenant, Jaded, Rabbitman, Zergon)</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

It is now Day Phase Six. With 17 people remaining, its 9 to lynch. You have until 12:00 EST (16:00 GMT) Sunday May 19 2019, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached by that time the day will end in a no lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p>

[Zergon]

<p>Alright, I´m back, seems like FellaLibby has already answered any questions thrown our way but I put my own thoughts on few that required answers from both of us</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Since you are both around. <p> </p><p> Couple questions.</p><p> </p><p> Reason's for each target.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Besides Showtime, who are you most willing to drop votes on now?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Reasons for each target:</p><p> Night 1 Talon: We didn´t have any clear idea at this point so mostly guess work, looking at the mason chat, looks like the main reason was me feeling that Talon´s check-in post was bit too go town vibes (we had Mich and Queen on the discussion for same reason) but basically we thought about half a dozen people at least and ended up with Talon more or less randomly.</p><p> Night 2 Panix. Again basing this mostly on what I read on out mason chat since I don´t remember our reasoning that well, looks like we had multiple people on the discussion again. Basically we narrowed it down to Rev or Panix and agreed on Panix. Libby already gave out most of our reasoning for this one but also the odd vote which from Paws to Jaded and Panix putting vote on Paws after she already answered Rev´s questions seemed to pe part of the reason.</p><p> Night 3 Rev: Ok, so this is the big mistake one. Basically the reasoning was Rev continuing to push towards Paws even after she claimed day 2 and that lets lynch Panix and/or Hellshock suggestion after they had both claimed. </p><p> Night 4 Teh_Showtime: Top scum lead at this point, basically we hoped that if he tries to do the kill we could see it being stopped on the write-up (basically the only way we would get any info if our ability did anything) and out him for sure.</p><p> Night 5 Rabbitman: Same reasoning than with Showtime, Rabbitman is someone we both found as potential scum and we decided to swich target since Showtime was more likely going to be targeted by other townies.</p><p> </p><p> Most comfortable on voting either Showtime or Rabbitman but willing to go other directions if that´s what town wants.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also in that vein.<p> </p><p> Fella/Zergon why didn't you call IER out when he made that claim to begin with.</p><p> </p><p> Some shenanigans going on with you 3</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We did discuss about calling IER out when he claimed but since neither one of us ain´t big fan of claiming and we couldn´t challenge the claim without giving away who we were, we decided to wait. Also as Talon have pointed out there´s other reasons why IER could be town (outing Emark) and while I´m not trusting IER at this point, I could at least personally see that claim being more or a missunderstanding than scum trying to claim our night action for himself so didn´t feel pressing need to clear that one immidiately. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We chose to play the waiting game. To see if it would pass. But it never did and we agreed that, we need to come clean. Its been a heavy toll that we did what we caused. We weren't able to successfully RB till we ran into Rev. We believed what we were targeting was a potential scum, hopefully the bus. What we got was far worse.<p> </p><p> I do take full responsibility for what happened to Lukess. Even though we did not kill him, we stopped the one person who could've saved him. Don't blame Zergon, blame me.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was on the Rev wagon as well at that point so I certainly should get part of that blame and would have targeted him that night even if I would have been alone. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>One thing I've learned in this game Talon, is I don't trust anybody. Unless I'm on their team. So no, I still don't trust him. Its just my nature. I can't speak how Zergon feels about Panix, but I it shows why we haven't continued targeting him for RB's.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I do trust Panix myself.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>IER who false claimed he blocked you on N3. And Rabbitman more and more because hes been missing for quite a long time for day phases. Thats my top 3 Show, IER, and Rabbitman.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Guess I should give my top scums as well. Showtime and Rabbitman are given considering what I wrote before and those are the only two who I´m confitend on saying are scum. </p><p> </p><p> Other than those two I have hard time figuring who the rest of the scum would be but since we know there´s at least three left there has to be more. At the moment I basically look between IER, Destiny and TBP as although I have some reason to believe they could be town, I´m not yet convinced on any of them. I could see Bluestar or Leion being scum as well but at the moment I trust them slighly more than the other three although with several people pointing Bluestar´s way (and teh fact that my scum reads have been quite bad so far), I likely need to revaluate my feeling about him.</p>

[Zergon]

<p>Also, I agree on going towards the most likely scum and that looks to be were majority is going so:</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: Teh Showtime</span></strong></p>

[BHK1978]

<p>People hate it when I meta-game but, Rabbitman was lurking in the thread for at least a half an hour (that I noticed) and did not post anything.</p><p> </p><p>

I mean I wish he would have at least tried to change our minds about him.</p>

[panix04]

<p>I am suspicious of Libby and Zerg because of their claim being a bit obscure and if they are still around in a couple of days and we haven’t won they need to go. However in their defence reading back at night 2, they targeted me with a block I was bussed with talon and he was blocked. So that is a fit. So at least they are on the level with that.</p><p> </p><p>

Blue star needs to go tomorrow- his claimed ability doesn’t fit at all! He’s lying. However I don’t want to derail a bandwagon because I think showtime is also scum. So...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change vote: teh_showtime</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

Also it’s one more vote to lynch. Going to post my activity to help town in case I get whacked tonight.</p>

[panix04]

<p>Night 1 I blocked emark </p><p>

Night 2 I blocked jaded (yeah, I know...I was suspicious of the multiple GL claims)</p><p>

Night 3 I bussed talon and Chris as i was confident in talons towniness and suspected Chris as scum - swing and a hit!</p><p>

Night 4 I bussed bhk and rev because I thought rev was giving scummy vibes and bhk was valuable. As it happened that panned out nicely as one of the two took out joker. Its worth noting that there appears to be two caped men in the write up and I think they are different. Which makes sense as I don’t see superman as a pgo. I dint like the fact that the write up only mention one of the people I bussed. Made me think that the non-caped person might have a reason to be kept from the write up? Worth looking into that, perhaps?</p><p>

Night 5 - I was an idiot, but I was going to bus showtime and bhk (who I’ve always had a solid town read on.</p>

[panix04]

Does anyone have a list of everyone who has roleclaimed or dropped big hints?

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="panix04" data-cite="panix04" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Night 4 I bussed bhk and rev because I thought rev was giving scummy vibes and bhk was valuable. As it happened that panned out nicely as one of the two took out joker. Its worth noting that there appears to be two caped men in the write up and I think they are different. Which makes sense as I don’t see superman as a pgo. I dint like the fact that the write up only mention one of the people I bussed. Made me think that the non-caped person might have a reason to be kept from the write up? Worth looking into that, perhaps?</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is actually good to know because it means that my lie detection ability is immune to being bus driven (Bus driven? That does not sound like proper English but whatever).</p><p> </p><p> I was wondering if that was the case because it is not like I am targeting a person, so it makes sense that it would be immune.</p>

[Eternal Phoenix]

<p><strong>Teh Showtime</strong>-8 (Bluestar, Fella Libby, BHK1978, Leion, Tha Black Phenom, Queen of Gnomes, Zergon, panix04)</p><p>

<strong>Rabbitman</strong>-1 (Memory of Talon)</p><p>

<strong>Bluestar</strong>-0 (Destiny)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Not Voting:</strong></p><p><strong>

(bak42, FirstToGetThisName, i effin rule, Imarevenant, Jaded, Rabbitman, Zergon)</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

It is now Day Phase Six. With 17 people remaining, its 9 to lynch. You have until 12:00 EST (16:00 GMT) Sunday May 19 2019, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached by that time the day will end in a no lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

I'm going to sleep. So, if someone hammers I'll be looking at the inside of my eyelids and not the thread. In case anyone wondered where I was.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="panix04" data-cite="panix04" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone have a list of everyone who has roleclaimed or dropped big hints?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have a list but it is full of holes. Hell I did not know that Rev was who he was until today (Yes I was slow on the uptake in regards to that). I just had him down as Town, there are a lot of people in my notes I have as Town but I do not know who they actually are role wise.</p>

[BHK1978]

Yup Talon is right, scum are messing with the vote again.

[Zergon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eternal Phoenix" data-cite="Eternal Phoenix" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Teh Showtime</strong>-6 (Bluestar, Fella Libby, BHK1978, Leion, Tha Black Phenom, Queen of Gnomes, Zergon, panix04)<p> <strong>Rabbitman</strong>-1 (Memory of Talon)</p><p> <strong>Bluestar</strong>-0 (Destiny)</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Not Voting:</strong></p><p><strong> (bak42, FirstToGetThisName, i effin rule, Imarevenant, Jaded, Rabbitman, Zergon)</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> It is now Day Phase Six. With 17 people remaining, its 9 to lynch. You have until 12:00 EST (16:00 GMT) Sunday May 19 2019, to reach a majority decision. If no majority is reached by that time the day will end in a no lynch. </strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong> As always, if you see a mistake point it out.</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I'm going to sleep. So, if someone hammers I'll be looking at the inside of my eyelids and not the thread. In case anyone wondered where I was.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Am I supposed to be on both not voting list and on Showtime vote? Just asking bacause I was on both Crychon vote and not voting at last day phase as well.</p>

[BlueStar]

<p>Back here...another mason team? </p><p> </p><p>

For testing reasons the vote reason...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">change vote: no vote</span></strong></p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Back here...another mason team? <p> </p><p> For testing reasons the vote reason...</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">change vote: no vote</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why did you try to have me killed last night? You're my mentor!!!<img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BlueStar]

Wrong tree, BHK...I'm one of the players who can't talk outside the thread (which seems an exception in this game).

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why did you try to have me killed last night? You're my mentor!!!<img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Little context to this post. When I first started playing Mafia, Blue took the time to help me understand the game better (how roles worked and what terms meant) so I call him my mentor. Though not in this actual game, especially if it really is true and he ordered a hit on me.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Little context to this post. When I first started playing Mafia, Blue took the time to help me understand the game better (how roles worked and what terms meant) so I call him my mentor. Though not in this actual game, especially if it really is true and he ordered a hit on me.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not in the ordering kills business, I'm popping my stuff to do night actions.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wrong tree, BHK...I'm one of the players who can't talk outside the thread (which seems an exception in this game).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Trust me I hope this is true because I would rather be working with you in a game. I just find your claim suspect and I felt you were trying to take the heat off DJ during the day we were trying to lynch him.</p><p> </p><p> I do not have any actual evidence on you, right now it is all theoretical but I think it is enough circumstantial evidence to point to you being scum.</p><p> </p><p> I could be wrong and I have been in the past.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not in the ordering kills business, I'm popping my stuff to do night actions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well we shall see, I may or may not use my lie detector on your role claim. I have not decided yet. If I am wrong I will gladly admit to being wrong.</p>

[Tha Black Phenom]

<p>So if I'm understanding correctly, we have a scum bus driver, vote manipulator, killer* and probably one more role left? Two? </p><p> </p><p>

We had Luthor and Joker the gift giver.</p><p> </p><p>

The asterisk is in case there is no designated hitman.</p><p> </p><p>

I am still wondering if Crychon was our only indy.</p>

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think I'm getting my days mixed up because of the skip.<p> </p><p> N1: Nada</p><p> N2: Watched/Tracked Rev</p><p> N3: RB dj</p><p> N4: RB Fellalibby</p><p> N5: RB Bluestar</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, that means Destiny can't confirm my action.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="panix04" data-cite="panix04" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone have a list of everyone who has roleclaimed or dropped big hints?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dude, superman is not a pgo. I killed the joker.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46614" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is actually good to know because it means that my lie detection ability is immune to being bus driven (Bus driven? That does not sound like proper English but whatever).<p> </p><p> I was wondering if that was the case because it is not like I am targeting a person, so it makes sense that it would be immune.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Bus driving only affects who targets you. Not who you target.</p>

[Jaded]

<p><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: Teh Showtime</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

And yeah, me and Paws were strongly against outing the number of our team, so I joked she should say 17 and she ran with it.</p>

[Guest Memory of Talon]

<strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">change vote: Teh_showtime</span></strong>